So now that Thinkpad is ogre, what was the best one of them all? What was Lenovo's/IBM's swansong?

>the best Thinkpad of all time?
Any that's in the trash - right where it belongs.

T420

>>106116711 (OP)
This x62? Good one. X62, x200, x220, x230, T420, T430, T480, then all X1C, X1C Nano.

>>106116711 (OP)
>>106116940
>>106117055
useless old shit

How many fucking "dae le old thinkpad amirite?" threads does this board need? We get it, you're a poorfag who wants to CONSOOM but you have no money.

If you want to collect trash so badly become a garbage man, at least you'll be a productive member of society for the first time in your life.

>>106116727
>>106117418
>>106117474
install gentoo

>>106116711 (OP)
>mogs your favorite model
Too bad it never got a full release. Lucky japs

>>106116711 (OP)
>Thinkpad is ogre
what

it might not be the best but i do love my t460

>>106116940
Or T520, which is the same but with better thermals.

>>106119407
mogs in what ways? in autism maybe. the x61 was more powerful.

>>106119433
They aren't built better than the competition anymore, look like boring consumer latops and they have also begun phasing out the clitmouse.

>>106116711 (OP)
(Laptops with a 4:3 screen looked so good!)

>>106116711 (OP)
w700ds

>>106120818
because they made perfect use of all the real estate.
wide screens on laptops are pants on head retarded and only pushed because using them is cheaper since they get shat out so much compared to nowadays less produced 4:3 displays.

>>106116711 (OP)
x61
even the nips use the exact same dimensions for their new laptops

>>106116711 (OP)
X220, literal perfect form factor and keyboard
a modern spec variant of it would be the easiest buy of the decade but we'd rather throw money at dogshit laptops

>>106122056
Personally prefer the X200 more because its A4 size with 16:10 and no touchpad. X220 isn't far off though.

>>106116711 (OP)
Right now? P16 Gen 2. Workstation systems with blowdryer vents are GOAT!

>not using the rare X301

>>106122056
>vista

>>106125139
retarded child

>>106116711 (OP)
Best classic thinkpad: T60p
Best semi-modern one: W520
but the P53 is pretty close and not fucking outdated

>>106125139
Thats not even vista you dumbass

>>106116711 (OP)
Honestly the best for its era was probably the t20 or one of the 700 series.

But the best of all time is probably the humble Sandybridge T420. Many factors go onto this though, including price and availability and parts. A lot of people think the X series is superior, and whilst I prefer to use them, the T is better for more uses.

>>106125434
T420 was dogshit compared to the T520/W520

>>106125443
Here we go talking about performance metrics and rare models.

> doesn't mention the x300/1 and w700 etc.

But I'm going to stand by the t420. It's an all time ubiquitous classic that does everything and it's much more lovable and useful than all the models I mentioned.

>>106120443
460 is honestly great and may have the best chic kb

>>106125463
W520 is not a rare model.
The W701/W700 dual screen are rare, like the R50p with the QXGA display.

>>106125463
>It's an all time ubiquitous classic that does everything and it's much more lovable and useful than all the models I mentioned.
It's only a classic because it was a cheap model for poorfags. It had a dogshit display, only 2 RAM slots, and a cooling system which wasn't enough for a quadcore CPU. If you wanted good performance you either upgraded it, or you just bought a W520 which already has most upgrades and important ports like USB 3.0

>>106116711 (OP)
They were all shit except ancient ones that cannot be used for anything in the current century because of how old and weak they are. My stupid browser needs 1/4 a gig to load this simple page with some text and thumbnails. WTF are you going to do on that piece of shit? Play snake or zork?

>>106125673
>Play snake or zork?
Yes.

>>106125681
playing old shit like tetris is based but solid, well built tech is dead and collecting chinkpads is nothing but nostalgia (mental illness). There's so much that went into building those thinkpads that consumers are just too stupid to understand.

>>106122056
it is crazy that you cant buy a laptop with this type of keyboard even that big frameworks one has chicklet keys

>>106116711 (OP)
>So now that Thinkpad is ogre
What happened? QRD?

>>106119407
I love mine, but
>soldered cmos battery

>>106125752
Size comparison on a 15” L570

>>106116711 (OP)
The 701 folding keyboard is the coolest thing ever, it's too bad the computer is otherwise obsolete.

>>106122056
I daily drive that thing

>>106125899
Too bad the computer otherwise is a massive piece of shit*
I had one of these, they’re made of garbage, they turn to goo covered brittle plastic and are basically impossible to repair without chassis damage. There’s a reason some nerds 3D modeled an entirely new 3D printable chassis for these.
And these were not rare machines, IBM sold a fuck ton of these. It’s just most of them did this life cycle
>business laptop used for 1-3 years
Because they were under specced even for their time they didn’t last long when hardware was moving extremely fast anyway.
>they get replaced
>701c sits in a bag in a closet indefinitely
>someone finds it in storage a decade later
>the Nihm battery shell is prone to failure and can’t maintain the pressure of the aging battery contents
>the battery has violently ejaculated acid into the 3 stacked motherboard layers inside
>the entire thing is teal crusty battery acid crystal covered
>it’s thrown away
Repeat for 90% of all units sold
The remaining ones are units which were stored without their battery.
These are now also old enough like many 90’s laptops to now have problems with failing power delivery board components, not leaking caps but just hardware being out of spec and not providing the right voltages anymore.
And it’s a shame because they really are super cool machines, but they’re like the pandas of the retro hardware world, nature dictates their species should not survive but we keep some going just because we like them.

>>106125706
they just don't make them anymore. the closest one I'm aware of is Panasonic but you have to import them since they're not sold outside Japan as far as I know. but they don't really look to be that great outside the keyboard.
I'd easily fork over the money for Framework if they had an option for a keyboard with actual travel, I genuinely despise chiclet shit

T43, the last and greatest pre-Chinese government spying device.

>>106126901
Honestly these aren’t that great. Even with ddr2 the Pentium M is kinda stunted
The screens yellow pretty bad and the rubberized coating doesn’t get super sticky but it tends to rub off and hold dust.
I would argue the old R series from the same time is better long term, just because of how poorly the T series aged physically. The R series with the solid plastic bodies is just more durable if unfortunately more bulky

>>106126527
Circular touchpads are evil.

T14 gen1

>>106116711 (OP)
I fear that by the time I finally get my hands on a W701DS modern software will have left it in the dust of unusability.

>>106128000
I have 2 of them and 5 W701's.

>>106128063
can I have one :(

>>106116711 (OP)
>So now that Thinkpad is ogre
Why is Thinkpad ogre? I was just about to buy

>>106127589
wait until you see triangle touchpads

>>106128610
at the proper time you can

if you pay the most money

What ogre?

>>106122056
i have a feeling i will still be using my trusty x230 in 10 years for daily bullshit

Is the Lenovo ThinkPad E16 any good?

>>106134545
no

>all the fucking retards saying X220/T420/W520
All straight up inferior to their 30 generation counterparts, which can be easily modded to be the same as them but with Ivy Bridge instead of Sandy Bridge.

>>106116711 (OP)
I acknowledge that there are more powerful models, definitely plenty, but I really like my x130e.
>t. X13 gen 2 AMD 5850U owner

>>106134677
Meant x120e, I have both and got confused

Got an X220T that was pretty decent except for having a 1024x768 screen which makes it basically unusable. Havent used it in years.

>>106119305
This but unironically

>>106134572
Okay but why?

>>106125932
X230 is better

>>106134847
E means Education which means cheap ass budget shit

>>106134909
how
it's slightly faster, that's the only benefit I see

>>106134847
they have thin all-plastic chassis that break the motherboard if you pick them by the corner

>>106116711 (OP)
My Dad was an IT guy and growing up my mom wouldn't allow us to have our own computers but my Dad would just nig thinkpad laptops from work slated for destruction and secretly give them to my brother and I. I think he had a pile of like, 10 thinkpads hidden in the basement because every time my mom caught my brother or I with one she'd chuck the thing down the starewell and the next day he'd just give us another.

Eventually my Dad started getting annoyed at all the broken Thinkpads so he started nigging his workplaces Panasonic CF29s slated for destruction instead. I still have one, my mom tried tossing it down the stairs too and it didnt do shit.

>>106116711 (OP)
X61

>>106134545
E/L series are all dogshit

>>106135898
why didn't the Dad slap his wife for being a petty bitch?

>>106136528

Getting rid of the right of a man to smack his woman back into her place has done untold damage to society

>>106135975
I'm still hitting myself for not grabbing a X61 I found in a flea market recently. It looked quite dusty and toasty from the summer sun but nothing some compressed air couldn't solve. Alas when I changed my mind and returned to the stall to pick it up, the stall was gone.

>>106134652
shit keyboard

Do you use a Thinkpad as a work laptop or an art piece?

If I never physically abuse my laptop, in fact I don't even carry it around with me anywhere most of the time - it's literally docked on my table 99% of the time, I only move it when I have to visit my parents once or twice a year - then ThinkPads have no advantage over other Lenovo series, yes?

>>106116940
nigger

>>106129276
old ones are still good, new ones are ogre
they just have a time limit now until most of them become rare enough to be expensive or outright unusable due to obsolescence

>>106138620
unironically a gaming laptop suits your needs better

>>106138897
I had a gaming laptop until now, and almost from the beginning it had problems with the GPU. It would be fine if it only happened when playing games or something, but the GPU would crash/drivers restart even when used by random software for GPU acceleration or something (like I think it crashed even with Chrome). It stopped doing it in old age, but I've been warry of "gaming laptops" ever since.

>>106126527
Got a used panasonic and put it on my thinkpad stack when I got home. It was a similar model to that one and it had almost the same footprint as my X200.

>>106135044
>admits that it's objectively better
X220 keyboard fits right into an X230 with only a bios update needed to use it, so the X220 doesn't even have that going for it.

>>106141243
normal dp port? I actually use this thing
the x230 would be so much better if they didnt go for the retarded minidp or whatever ts's called

T440p
More than capable for the modern day. As long as you don't need a good GPU.

>>106137124
You can put the classic keyboard into the *30 laptops.

A laptop without a good screen for image work or reproduction at least 100% SRGB is a useless laptop