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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:42:53 PM No.106119883
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How do people actually make chatgpt or other ai write a whole paper for them?
In my experience they have been useful for searching up literature or giving brief summaries of simple texts, but anything more demanding than that they just can't seem to do. I'm still writing all of my stuff myself and I feel oldschool and dumb for doing this.
I've only tried free versions too. Do u have to pay to get anything genuinely useful?
I'm majoring in philosophy so maybe the stuff that I read and write about is more difficult to understand and therefore less accessible for a language model. I don't know what to do
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:49:11 PM No.106119950
>>106119883 (OP)
>I'm majoring in philosophy so maybe the stuff that I read and write about is more difficult to understand
topkek
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:56:35 PM No.106120027
>>106119883 (OP)
I had ChatGPT outline my dissertation, then used Perplexity to find sources and then write each of the chapters separately. Read it once, touched it up a little, and handed it in. Got praised for an excellent work.
I immediately lost all faith in my career choice.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:57:11 PM No.106120037
>>106119950
Laugh all you want stemchud, you will still never comprehend the science of logic
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:00:27 PM No.106120059
>>106120027
Did you use the free versions? They seem kind of lackluster for me
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:15:33 PM No.106120204
>>106119883 (OP)
>I've only tried free versions too. Do u have to pay to get anything genuinely useful?
>I'm majoring in philosophy so maybe the stuff that I read and write about is more difficult to understand and therefore less accessible for a language model. I don't know what to do

Same. Don't bother paying, it won't get much better. These models are good enough to answer normie questions about taxes etc. but they aren't good enough for abstract critical deep thinking (yet). They also haven't been fed a lot of philosophical texts.
I only use them to summarise sections of text as they aren't even good enough to summarize a longer text lol. I also use them to write a paragraph from bullet points. But they can't write chapters of an essay let alone a whole paper.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:01:01 AM No.106120559
>>106119883 (OP)
It is called 'prompt engineering'.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:22:29 AM No.106121215
>>106120204
>These models are good enough to answer normie questions about taxes etc. but they aren't good enough for abstract critical deep thinking (yet).
That's my impression too and I'm not sure if it actually could be possible in the future. When I ask them about anything Hegel wrote about, they just give me quotations and simply repeat it in slightly different words while also quoting secondary sources.
Like they're good at presenting relevant information and giving you oversight but it seems impossible for them to make an actual point of their own, which is supposed to be the goal. When I ask to elaborate on a specific argument or topic they just give me bullet points and buzzwords. If they do make an argument, it's probably copied from someone else without giving a source which could get you busted in the future.
I'm happy to connect the dots on my own as long as the AI reduces the workload of researching information. But I imagine these people who get their papers written by AI must be studying something that is more straightforward and less ambigious in meaning.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:26:42 AM No.106121247
>>106119883 (OP)
Good, now that the academic stuff is taken care of by machines we can lay back and let our sex toys do the sexy thing while having a nice intellectual conversation.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:32:10 AM No.106121291
>>106121215
chatgpt wouldn't entertain my idea that justine getting killed at the end of Justine actually is an act of God rather than an example of an indifferent act of chaos it just kept saying the same thing you could read online over and over to me
i weep
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:56:40 AM No.106121526
>>106120037
>the science of logic
Considering the language of logic is literally mathematics, I'd expect even a lowly cs fag to be better versed when it comes to logic than a philosophy midwit.

>>106119883 (OP)
>I'm still writing all of my stuff myself and I feel oldschool and dumb for doing this.
You are dumb, but not for writing it yourself, but for feeling dumb about putting in effort in your education when others pay money to slack off and come out uneducated in the end. If your educators and supervisors cannot be bothered or are incapable of detection AI generated content then the institute you are enrolled at is utter garbage, it's that simple.

And no, chatgpt does not write acceptable college level essays. Even larger models with more context, rag and reasoning can't do that, but it can appear to be acceptable at a first glance for the uninitiated. That said, you can easily use ai to help you research and structure your texts initially, and then let ai fill the sections and subsections appropriately. Especially in something as generic as philosophy, an LLM can likely write cohesive paragraphs that cover a few key points without major issues.

>>106120027
Fake and gay.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:23:29 AM No.106121723
>>106121526
>Considering the language of logic is literally mathematics, I'd expect even a lowly cs fag to be better versed when it comes to logic than a philosophy midwit.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hl/hlconten.htm
Go ahead and take a shot at it then. See if you could write a cohesive paper about it too
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:40:30 AM No.106121892
>>106121526
your perspective reminds me of my gay dad who emotionally abused me - if you think hard work equals a life well lived then you are already fucked fogey
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:42:52 AM No.106121912
>>106121215
>>106120204
>uses the lowest quality free online tools
>gets the lowest quality results
"It seems this is simply the limit of what AI can do. What a waste of time."

Lmao philosophy guys are treated
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:52:23 AM No.106121969
>>106121215
>without giving a source
What the fuck are you using?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:56:26 AM No.106122005
>>106119883 (OP)
>How do people actually make chatgpt or other ai write a whole paper for them?
ask chatGPT
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:46:03 AM No.106123104
>>106121723
I think Wittgenstein said something about nonsense like this
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:28:06 AM No.106123384
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>>106119883 (OP)
>I'm majoring in philosophy
Unless you plan on working in education, please get a regular job instead of wasting decades on this stuff. Study it in your free time.

t. PhD in Philosophy
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:58:05 AM No.106123526
>>106119883 (OP)
>how do I cheat
do your homework, faggot
sage
8/3/2025, 7:12:35 AM No.106123592
>>106119883 (OP)
Chegg on steroids.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 9:40:50 AM No.106124421
>>106123384
That's exactly my plan, which is why I'm just trying to get this over with instead of caring about "scientific integrity"
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 9:47:53 AM No.106124463
Universities and schools will be a thing of the past soon, good riddance
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:52:53 AM No.106124865
>>106121215
have you tried telling them to roleplay as a hegel contradictor, then a hegel enthusiast, then make a synthesis? or simply have them write a dialogue.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:14:23 AM No.106124963
this is why china is winning
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:15:24 AM No.106124970
>>106120037
the science of logic is called mathematics or at least that's just a small part of it
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:37:44 AM No.106125086
Hope you guys are staying healthy because these ChatGPT graduates are your next doctors
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:39:16 AM No.106125097
>>106125086
Just take your vaccines and boosters and you'll be safe and effective because trust the science
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:45:50 AM No.106125128
>>106125086
Chatgpt pro or new graduate from mumbai university, pick your poison
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:28:35 PM No.106125939
>>106121723
Quite easily, but I'd do it in Hegels native tongue. Also,
>marxist.org
Kek

>>106121892
You're confusing education and work. When you're young, that's your chance to get an education that should be the foundation of your entire life. Granted, philosophy isn't really a breadwinner, but the point remains that if you want to accomplish something in your field then unless your incredibly lucky you'll need to actually learn something.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:33:01 PM No.106125962
>>106125939
Don't dismiss marxists.org, they've got plenty of interesting texts on there that are not directly related to Marx.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 3:52:00 PM No.106126489
>>106125962
NTA but the translations they have are usually pretty bad and the annotations are mostly nonexistent. It's worth buying a physical book for most instead.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 3:55:13 PM No.106126514
Don't bother, OP. Your life is over if you're even thinking about this. You've already given up learning because your brain knows it can't do it. Join the pigpen, piggy.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:01:52 PM No.106127109
>>106125939
>I'd expect even a lowly cs fag to be better versed when it comes to logic than a philosophy midwit.
>Quite easily, but I'd do it in Hegels native tongue
https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/hegel/logik2/index.html
Looks very easy doesn't it? Lol any other excuses retard?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:03:55 PM No.106127128
>>106119883 (OP)
>The grade gets assigned and we all pretend we learned something
This part was true before AI.