>fixes your OS hopping
>the most polished and best linux OS to date

Why aren't you using it?
Its so good it makes you feel like you are using an actual OS designed by smart people.

The updater is so sleek and nice looking. The desktop is quick.

>>106120262 (OP)
I took the GNOME pill and I am not going back

Is based on Ubuntu, which is being destroyed from within by rust troons and other woke garbage. Also, Clem apologized for criticizing Israel and backpedaled on all of his comments.

it's ugly

>>106120277
GNOME is a repository, anon.

>>106120280
>Clem apologized for criticizing Israel and backpedaled on all of his comments
Big if true.

>>106120280
>>106120301
who's clem? I don't follow ubuntu stuff.
Also if you dislike ubuntu mint has an LMDE edition which is basically debian but preconfigured with the cinnamon desktop.

>>106120280
>Clem apologized for criticizing Israel and backpedaled on all of his comments
Sometimes a man is forced to be a little hypocritical in order to avoid jail.

>>106120262 (OP)
Cinnamon is ugly and its Debian/Ubuntu base makes it outdated

i just use debian

Cinnamen is the last gui I'd ever use. I'd rather use ratpoison or straight up TTY than cinnamon.

>>106120328
you are just based

>>106120277
more like the gnome supppository

squeak

What about LMDE? Isn't it the version of linux Mint that is actually good for refugees from windows?

>>106120343
https://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/

>>106120307
Clem is the lead developer of Mint. And LMDE is no better, as Debian is currently protecting a known convicted child molester (purely for partisan reasons to own the chuds).

>>106120422
what do you recommend using for the enlightened anon?
Redhat stuff? Arch?
What about for servers?

>>106120414
i dont often get the urge to hop, but i've mainly been using debian with vanilla i3 and i3status for like a decade and this one intrigues me

>>106120433
Redhat is by far the worst. They're being sued for open anti-white discrimination. They might as well change their logo to a yarmulke.

If you want chudware then there's Devuan (Debian based without the cancer), Artix (Arch based), Arch itself, or OpenMandriva.

>>106120449
you don't need to hop. Debian is actually one of the few distros that has it in their official repos.

>>106120262 (OP)
the installer gave me a black screen and just put my fans on full blast

>still uses a shitty default font
Thanks, but I'll stick with windows

>>106120343
It's garbage it looks like its from 2010. When you click "add to panel" it doesnt even add it to the left it adds it to the right randomly. Discarded.

>>106120494
>>106120496
you need to have more than a 2 digit iq to post here

>>106120433
Anything that works and you like. I use debian, atleast the os isn't build to force shit down your throat. It's just built by fucking animals, but why not use it if it just works?

>>106120475
i just mean the wm, nothing could make me leave debian

>>106120496
works on my ratchine

>>106120496
>It's garbage it looks like its from 2010
you just gave half of /g/ a boner by saying this

>>106120262 (OP)
the most polished desktop experience is still windows you stupid commie liberal poorfag troon. Take that kibbutz style software ecosystem (Foss) and shove it up your ass you yid.

>>106120617
prolly mac desu

>>106120262 (OP)
It refuses to install on my system. The installer just hangs when trying to get past the "install codecs" screen. Ubuntu 24.04 installed just fine so I'm using that.

>>106120262 (OP)
that's not NixOS

>>106120630
yeah that too, but definitely not shitnux. Shitnux is just cope for being poor and cheap. in fact, most Linux commies are still stuck on x86, use 30$ sbc's, or use other outdated hardware slop. They spent more time playing with their Foss toys and going from one rabbit hole into the next than going outside. Most of them even have severe vitamin d deficiency to the point of developing cancer.

Linux mint is so good even pewdiepie uses it.

>>106120734
He did say in another video that he uses arch on his desktop now

>>106120720
(You)

>>106120833
He'll be back.

There's nowhere in linux where you can get these icons, this taskbar style and also have a working update manager as clean as this. It's as close to windows experience as possible.

>>106120262 (OP)
alright fuck it, I'll bite. Cinnamon, XFCE or MATE?

>>106120878
>It's as close to windows experience as possible.
that's the worst endorsement of anything I've ever heard

>>106120899
xfce if you're white
mate if you're white and old
cinnamon for the rest

>>106120262 (OP)
I'm a newfag with no /g/ skills. Mint looks like it's okay for a retard like me. Why shouldn't I use it?

>>106120280
>>>/pol/

>>106120955
shut up you filthy rat jew. go rape some more kids in your tunnel

>>106120924
its a derivative distro of a derivative distro. Many choices have been made on your behalf for reasons unknown to you, This doesnt mean they are bad choices, but you dont any frame of reference.

>>>106120955(You)
>shut up you filthy rat jew. go rape some more kids in your tunnel

>>106120262 (OP)
I use Arch, the superior distro so no thank you anon

>>106120918
You know, but without all the spyware, tracking and backdoors windows has.

>>106120991
>gets malware
nothing personnel, kid

>>106120473
>le chudware schizo
nyooo not da wokies!!
grow up

>>106121095
YWNBAW

>>106120262 (OP)
cinnamon doesn't even do VRR properly gtfo with that shit
might as well use KrashDE (which i currently am using)

>>106120920
Cinnamon it is, then.

>>106121140
>this is his entire personality

>>106120414
not even the weirdest logo, but still wtf

Still has no support for HDR and uses geoclue spyware

>>106122754
I've never seen someone mention geoclue and not be a schizo

>loonix
not even for free people use this crap

>>106122754
They're working on improving support to Wayland, which will make HDR possible.

>>106120262 (OP)
I had 2 kernel panic in a month on Fedora, I'm moving to Ubuntu. I don't care about linux ethos or open source or latest version of software. I just want things to work and I don't like windows 11. Snap pa ckages might be slow but I'm patient person and flathub is always there.

>>106120262 (OP)

If you polish it enough it'll become Windows

>>106120449
You may also be interested in StumpWM. Inspired by ratpoison but written entirely in lisp. Easy to modify and add functionality assuming you are comfortable programming (lisp isn't hard ifn't if you aren't familar). You can edit the config on the fly to interactivly develop it.

>>106122820
I've never seen someone call another person a schizo for pointing out obvious spyware and not be a raging faggot

>>106120262 (OP)
If I wanted to use an actual OS designed by smart people I'd use Debian.

>>106120262 (OP)
it's not fedora *tips*

>>106123794
You are goddamn right nigga, DEBIAN SUPERMACY

>>106120262 (OP)
I use debian w/ xfce. There is no reason to use anything else. It looks beautiful.

>>106120262 (OP)
The thing that fixed my OS hopping was installing Arch, because it made me realize all the distros are actually the same. The only difference is the package manager, and what packages are available in the default repos.

>>106120262 (OP)
It looks like windows. That's the only reason unemployed morons don't use Mint

>>106120325
>not using xfce
Ngmi

>>106125768
The only exception to this is the init system.

>>106125936
Most people wouldn't want to use anything other than systemd and there aren't many mainstream distros that don't use that. Gentoo is the only one I can think of.

>>106125950
>thinking Gentoo is mainstream
grim

>>106125950
Mxlinux, artix, devuan

>>106125971
It is, at least compared to >>106125973
I actually have heard of those distros before, but I've never seen anyone talk about them.

>>106120280
None of your blabbering contains any argument against the technological merits of an operating system.

>>106120414
>All interaction with the window manager is done through keystrokes
ding ding retard alert.

Fedora is so much better
>Stability
>Newer packages
>Wayland
>Various DE

>>106123715
well you just did
meds

>>106125973
>mainstream

>>106126309
This is some kind of retard Olympic challenge and I do not accept

>>106126529
coward

>>106126613
You need attention that bad?

>>106126641
well you're still replying, schizo

>>106120262 (OP)
>flatshit
>snapshit
no no no
no thanks

>>106126693
I'll happy to give your stupid ass attention since you don't have people in your life ego care about you and listen to you. You're welcome

>>106126913
>I'll happy
>in your life ego
in my what now
anyways, elaborate on geoclue or you're still a schizo. seemingly underage and ESL now, as well.

>>106126936
Who*
look at this faggot behaving like his mommy on her Facebook page. Going on and typos. Jfc this is why your father didn't like you, is ashamed of you and wants nothing to do with you. Be a man for once

>>106126985
>all this projection
>still no elaboration
kek chill out Pablo

>>106126995
Ah the little pivoting bitch is trying so hard to get the upper hand. Your father hates you

>>106127012
you sure fixated on my father, is it because you're growing up without one? lmao
anyways I'm heading out with my kids, you have a nice day in your schizo chamber, hope you get better some day bud :)

>>106120262 (OP)
>Why aren't you using it?
I'm using Bazzite. It's less of a hassle to use than Windows.

>>106127036
Damn that's a very lengthy post. Not reading the hurt. Why are you bitch anon?

>>106125768
Try installing cinnamon on debian base install and try to get it to work and function exactly like linux mint in under 30 minutes and you'll realize that this statement is wrong. Being a fork doesn't mean a linux distro is less "good" or "the same".

It's not possible. These are two different OS that have different purposes and are not just the same forks. Linux mint is for the beginner and is made to be as easy as possible for everyone with the software manager, printers, update manager.

Debian is for....someone? I really don't know who the desktop versions are for considering they throw in a bunch of bloatware like xthaiterminal and anthy dictionary for zero reason. Even arch doesn't do that. At least arch lets you get the base vanilla desktop and you can choose whatever file manager you want like pcmanfm or thunar

Meanwhile linux mint comes with a driver manager, app store, updater. It's for a specific purpose and its crafted. And that's why linux mint is #1 and why everyone uses it, because its the only competent linux distro.

>>106127292
>Try installing cinnamon on debian base install and try to get it to work and function exactly like linux mint in under 30 minutes and you'll realize that this statement is wrong.
Really? What goes wrong if you just type sudo apt install cinnamon?

>>106127411
You're missing the mint icons, mint themes, mint tools, mint updater, mint driver manager, mint printer manager, pix, xviewer, drawing, mint file roller, file renamer,

I don't like Debian-based distros, I also hate their dogshit buggy desktop environment

>>106125890
Xfce is even uglier.

>>106120262 (OP)
Arch is better if you are not a skillet.

>>106120262 (OP)
After trying Mint many times over the years, then Ubuntu with Cinnamon and then just plane Ubuntu and then Ubuntu Studio I have finally settled on Kubuntu as the KDE environment is lightweight and very nice and everything easy seems to have an easier time on Debian based distros so that also helps (Bitwig etc)

>>106127443
Okay, so there's a bunch of things Mint has that are missing from the Debian default package repositories, is that it? You'd have to build them from sources, so it takes more than 30 minutes.
That's certainly a point in Mint's favour, if those are things you're using, but it doesn't change the fact that the only difference between the two distros is the package manager and available packages.

>>106120262 (OP)
it may be polished packages are outdated, i need shit to be newer than shit you can get on fedora

>>106127613
Arch is better because it has newer software. Only retarded skids think they are hardcore for running archinstall.

>>106128067
Just use flatpaks.

There's a reason why nobody uses anything but mint.

Gone are the days of typing in commands to get drivers
Gone are the days of updating through terminal
Gone are the days of games not working

Mint solves all these problems

>>106128221
>Just use flatpaks
They're bloated. At that point just use Windows

It just werks

>>106128228
>nooooo my app loads .6 of a second slower
>lets install spyware

Sorry but pic related is why mint will always be #1 for linux because they figured out how to make a good GUI OS that isn't jeeted and actually works as an appstore.

In the words of steve jobs, if the user sees a terminal, you've fucked up.

>>106128171
I never used archinstall, i don't even see the point.
Also i never said arch is hardcore it's pretty damn simple and that's why i like it, no surprises.

>>106128274
>Hamburger button with invisible contours
Trash.

>>106125973
I use devuan. Shit's comfy.

>>106120262 (OP)
That would be Fedora or any RHEL based distro

>>106128274
>nooooo my app loads .6 of a second slower
More like multiple seconds slower, with additional disk usage and CPU overhead.

>>106128274
>In the words of steve jobs, if the user sees a terminal, you've fucked up.
Terminal usage hasn't been necessary in desktop Linux since the 2000's

>>106132132
Wrong. It's only until recently linux mint has actually made a good GUI based distro that actually just werks.

There has been zero distros besides mint with its updater, driver manager, app store.

Name one that has this. Discover KDE is garbage and its not really a full ecosystem and its slow.

>>106120280
You mean the instance in which this happened, the community asked the dude to stfu about politics and he did? Honestly W

I wish there was a cinnamon spice that resembles Windows 95's desktop.

>>106132146
Ubuntu had all this in 2008

>>106132455
anti-x linux?

>>106132455
cinnamon_windows_95_vaporwave

>>106120339
hhhehehe

>>106132455
https://github.com/B00merang-Project/Windows-95

>>106120262 (OP)
>the most polished and best linux OS to date
It's just ubento with cinnamon. How in the goddamn fuck is it the most polished anything? Why don't you get new fucking text for your daily threads, you retarded fucking spammer? Even better, just go play in traffic.

Retarded, obese, OCD cocksucker, you're like a walking abortion.

>>106132455
Cinnamon spices look like shit other than the Adapta and Orchis ones
>>106120878
>There's nowhere in linux where you can get these icons, this taskbar style
I have this on arch

>>106133174
Holy seethe

it's ass. slow as fuck, buggy, and bloated. the only thing it has over ubantu is not having gnomes abhorrent ui.

>>106120449
>hides his 2000 packages
pottery

>>106120262 (OP)
Include the word 'mint' next time so I can properly filter it. Otherwise you would leave me no choice but to filter 'hopping' or 'linux' too

>>106133204
Same shit, every fucking day, like a goddamn compulsion. Get some medication for your shit and fuck off.

>>106133338
I didn't make this thread, I'm just pointing out that you are ridiculously angry about something you could have easily avoided in 2 clicks, instead of entering here and typing that wall of seethe.

>>106120262 (OP)
No HDR support

>>106132465
Ubuntu sucks now doe. It got guhnomified so hard and snapped in half that mint had to come in and fork everything.

Mint is #1 on distrowatch

>>106134527
your mom likes anal you nasty fuck.

>>106120262 (OP)
>shits mesa repo with bugs from outdated drives because maintainers don't care

Tried Linux Mint (it), it is visually pleasing but it lags aperiodically on older hardware, therefore Kali Linux it is which runs flawlessly and it is far more useful!

>>106120720
>Shitnux is just cope for being poor and cheap
it's the only halfway sane choice if you're into autonomy

imagine wanting absolute and total control of your LAN subnet, what packages are being transmitted and received and having the abonomination that is windows involved in that

it's definitely the only choice that'll leave you sane in the long-run, if you fully understand your computer as a digital processing tool

if you're some normie, who happens to also need a computer because of their job, not whose job is computers, linux is overkill and the normie is probably too retarded anyhow

>>106132146
>Wrong. It's only until recently linux mint has actually made a good GUI based distro that actually just werks.
That's probably factually wrong, but one of those
>i'll allow it
kind of statements.

LMDE is an absolutely "good enough" operating system, it feels rock-solid stable in general, like Windows 2000, but has some unpolished tuck-aways, some unconsidered edge cases (though less than your average Linux distro, probably) and feels unoptimized, but correctness is always preferable to speed.

It's like Linux desktop was in a modern Windows 98SE/ME-era (twenty years later), and the current paradigm is something like moving away from the DOS-kernel to the NT-kernel, except in Linux it's more about consolidating the UNIX philosophy (and file structure, i.e. /sbin --> /usr/sbin) into a generalized system moving into the future, instead of the operating-systems-architectural aspects, but the (felt) significance is similar.

Debian 12 defaulting to non-free-firmware is another example of consolidating FOSS-philosophies with the (bleak) reality and picking a suitable compromise.

Exciting times, faggots.

>>106136536
*Regions is a nightmare on Linux/UNIX.
i18n was a mistake.

Strings and format-strings, programs themselves should always be human language agnostic, worst-case English if human language cannot be avoided at all.

>Why aren't the files being sorted like in Windows?
>LC_COLLATE
fml
'Pinning' folders seems less portable than exploiting using special characters to prepend file and folder names to list them at the top.
It's not Mint to directly blame, it's because the sorting scheme is being delegated to GTK/"Gnome-Tool-Kit."
Yeah, you-know-who, that's the use-case and all that.
An open issue(s) for at least five years when I checked three years ago.

>>106136635
>It's not Mint to directly blame, it's because the sorting scheme is being delegated to GTK/"Gnome-Tool-Kit."
also
>inb4
I wrote a custom en-DE.UTF-8 region template (for Debian, on my local system), *including* with a collation scheme that worked for special characters, only for it all to be fucked up by GTK's 'magic-number' collater/sorter (the algorithm that sorts such that 20 comes before 100, even though char('1') < char('2'), in a list of filenames).

So, you see, even if you do EVERYTHING extremely correct, into even doing a goddamn custom region template, it'll still tuck-away some bullshit.

I'm probably just really "exotic," but I think there should be something like en-INTL.UTF-8 using ISO8601, etc. without having to resort to using en-DK; that being said, there are post-code and adress templates TOO, so it HAS to be country specific.
GREAT!

Yeah, no, regional settings goes to MS, credit where credit is due.

>>106120918
let me clarify for anon
windows 7 experience

>>106136685
>only for it all to be fucked up by GTK's 'magic-number' collater/sorter
Wait, let me just drive it home:
>works in ls
>but not in Nemo
>because GTK
>is it a setting?
>nope, hardcoded
>has anybody, this specific issue, reported?
>...twice! at least!
>the man himself!
>complete avoidance on all technical aspects
come on man, is this sabotage or vanity?

>>106120262 (OP)
>Why aren't you using it?
windows 7 just works