In light of recent news regarding the Online Safety Act and Apple giving the UK government a backdoor to their encrypted network (well, officially now at least). What are some fully encrypted mobile devices out there? Or operating systems for phones? Or at least, ones that aren’t contemporary

>>106122496 (OP)
>Online Safety Act
How does this work in the UK anyway? Is it that everyone has to prove their age with ID when signing up or does it only happen if you enter a birthday that is below the threshold?

>Apple giving the UK government a backdoor to their encrypted network (well, officially now at least)
What are you talking about? The latest news is about the UK backing down due to US pressure to fuck off.

>>106122525
>the UK backing down due to US pressure
Good one. Like they'd pass on this kind of crackdown, especially when the Agenda demands it.

>>106122561
Considering how the US has been pressing down on the world around it lately, it's not that surprising.

>>106122496 (OP)
>>106122561
>"it's official!"
>it's not and is the opposite
anon, are you okay?

>>106122525
Yeah officially they “backed down”, but they had access to that shit long before, they just want easier access to a greater number of people cutting out the extra step (like the court) to access an individuals data, the same logic applies to this Act. As for your other question, yes it automatic for sites that the government deem “ID-necessary”.

>>106122583
I see.

>>106122496 (OP)
Phones are designed from from the ground up to track you and if you think otherwise you are delulu. GraphmemeOS won't save you when your location can simply be determined from Bluetooth mesh networking the same way AirTags work. Basic radio waves can also ID you, not just WiFi like this article wants you to think
https://www.techradar.com/pro/wi-fi-signals-could-be-used-to-uniquely-identify-individuals-whofi-complements-biometrics-prompting-privacy-fears
>oh this is brand new tech surely it's not widespread yet
delulu.

>>106122572
>okay, they didn't, but it'd be cool tho
Right.
>>106122578
Why do you think I'm OP?

>>106122606
What a time to be alive.

You can also use literally any cloud service you want if you just locally encrypt before uploading, there's lots of shit around for doing that.

>>106122606
stop using it

>>106122606
There are workarounds, I just need concrete examples.

>>106122663
>There are workarounds
And the majority of people will never, ever find them, just like how the majority of people went along with the injections. CONPLAN 8888, by the way, that's why this is all happening.

>>106122727
I do not care for the majority, while I wish them the best I know the reality. I’m just curious what is out there. I mainly stick to browsing on my PC for obvious reasons, but I have but my phone bothers me, and I can’t find anything sustainable to workaround this issue. GraphmemeOS can be compromised if you know what you’re doing, I’ve also heard quite a bit about Bittium mobile, but again, it’s being openly marketed which I am automatically suspicious of

>>106122496 (OP)
>using a phone

Lol

>>106122496 (OP)
you'll just have to have your weekly pedo group chat by letter instead

>>106122496 (OP)
No such thing. Either learn to secure a regular device and anonymize communications or eat ass. Rooting, degoogling, firewalling and torifying, in that order.

>>106122496 (OP)
Oi, you got a loicence to be depressed?

>>106124450
Hm I thought so. Mr McAfee was right

>>106124450
>tinkertrany
none of these is effective
your only bet is to prevent the communication getting traced back to you
burner device bought second hand
borrowed ap

if you do what you described you will be glowing in the dark and all efforts will be mobilized to de-anon and backdoor you
because you fucking stick out
privacyshit works when youre anonymizing against google, not state level actors

>>106125672
If you do it correctly, you won't stick out.

>>106125705
you will stick out because glownigs have full access to the infra, retard
>do more stuff, more points of failure, more unknowns, and for weaker guarantees if any
yeah, your "knowledge" is worthless
deal with it

>>106122639
I laughed at this image, but I just found a page on my ISPs site regarding a privacy policy for it... What the fuck bro.

>>106125719
You're just incompetent.

>>106125736
>calls people incompetents
>never heard about the concept of points of failure
ur a d&k retard

ur knowledge is worse than, worthless
youre actively gonna put people into trouble
it has negative worth to it
its a dangerous cargo cult

>>106125741
If you don't know how to do this safely, you are incomoetent. There's no two ways about it.

The real solution, though, is to exit the clearweb (only hitting it to manage bank accounts and stuff that doesn't directly point back at any aspect of your internet life) and start using darknets for everything else.

>>106122496 (OP)
>get a google pixel
>flash graphene os

>>106125736
lets run a simple scenario to show just how retarded your "knowledge" is
ISPS watch the last routers that lead to tor entry points
note the ips
investigate everyone who uses em, pre-emptively incarcerated on suspicions of hatespeech
anons get murdered and raped in prison in either order
nobody ever hears about it because it would foster anti government sentiment

what defeats that is breaking the trace at a certain point
the most easy way to do that is to borrow the AP
and once you do that you dont need to boither with the rest of the retardation
in fact, its gonna be counter productive

if you go through tor the glownigs have a limited stream of information to decypher and surveil
its a fucking dissident aggregator for them
if youre just another anon on the internet youre safe-ish because the world doesnt have enough compute to decipher and trace all communicatrions in real time

youre such a complete fucking imbecile
its no longer advertisers youre hardening against

>>106125792
ur a retard, autismo trash
your tryhardism is perfectly redundant and even counter productive
it has negative worth to it
>>106125808

>>106122496 (OP)
mobile devices are fucked.
get a small laptop. physically remove any wireless comms devices present within it. only use ethernet to install a Linux distro and the starting apps. as soon as it is ready to work with whatever data, you never connect it to the internet again.
age is good software for encrypting data. gpg too. look into steghide.
you can send encrypted messages via any service that allows you to send files. email, Telegram, whatsapp, etc. if they start blocking your shit because they cannot read the files and get sus, then use steghide.
ALL OF YOUR ENCRYPTION/DECRYPTION MUST TAKE PLACE ON THE AIRGAPPED MACHINE. the moment a key touches a machine with access to the internet, you can consider yourself fucked.
I leave the act of transferring ciphertexts from the airgapped machine to a networked machine for delivery (or vice versa) as an exercise to the reader.

>>106125825
encrypted messages glow in the dark
and non OTP methods should be considered null

if you want to communicate over clear channels you have to mask your encrypted message as a non-encrypted one
you have to hide it within phrases that make contextual sense
or just use code phrases

i find it hilarious that "anonymization experts" of g dont know the first of basics

>>106125841
>encrypted messages glow in the dark
yeah well you ain't gonna be reading them
>and non OTP methods should be considered null
you read a blog post on "unbreakable crypto" and are too fucking stupid to realize the impracticalities of OTPs. stop being retarded.
>if you want to communicate over clear channels you have to mask your encrypted message as a non-encrypted one
hence steghide
>you have to hide it within phrases that make contextual sense
now you are advising to roll your own crypto. I and many others would fuck your shit up so badly.
>i find it hilarious that "anonymization experts" of g dont know the first of basics
I find it annoying that /g/ is absolutely full of people that try and endlessly put others down due to supposed lack of knowledge. I would smack the fuck out of you for talking in this manner to me IRL

>>106125862
>yeah well you ain't gonna be reading them
they dont need to
theyre gonna stick you in jail with a horny muhammad as a cellmate and youre gonna decypher them messages yourself

>you read a blog post on "unbreakable crypto" and are too fucking stupid to realize the impracticalities of OTPs
no. its babby's first cryptography lesson 101 preview edition
also:
>how are you gonna agree on the cypher youre gonna use, regadless of OTP or otherwise?
you meet in person. you could as well hand an OTP

you have a sub 80 iq, anon
im not even gonna read the rest its worthless cope

>>106122496 (OP)
???

>>106125862
also
>impracticalities of an OTP
you can "fold" an otp on itself
effectively turning a 100kb long OTP into gigas or even teras worth of encryption

>>106125875
I've done way more cryptographic work than your bitch ass

>>106125891
oh look, anon discovered the concept of fan-in and fan-out
in the process, you have removed your perfect security

>>106125893
yeah but its all worthless because youre not facing skiddies with a trannypad, youre facing fukken state level actors with server farms and botnets for distributed computing

i dont give a shit youve done your retarded shit since long
its still retarded. and worthless

>>106125902
>the concept of fan-in and fan-out
wtf you even mean?
picrel?
how does that sound like folding to you?

you take your OTP
you offset it by 1
you add it to itself and modulo
boom. new otp

you can do this an arbitrary number of times
are you the "LE" cryptography expert?
you aint worth a bent penny

>>106125926
>wtf you even mean?
if you cannot relate fan-in and fan-out to the concept of hashing algorithms, block ciphers, and stream ciphers, then you unironically need to stop trying to roll your own shit. consult more literature.

>>106125935
>talks about me instead of explaining
>doesnt even address how to deal with an otp
ok, i accept your vile, abject, detestable intellectual submission

>>106122496 (OP)
You live in a democracy, just vote for it to be repealed, dumb dumb
>https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

>>106125891
Are you suggesting to do this at decrypt time based on a 100kb key?
Is it really a one-time pad if you use it like that?

>>106125944
why would I try to explain the basics of secure OTP handling? literally rule #1 is that you never, ever, EVER reuse any part of the pad. I don't give a single shit what type of mathematical bullshit you are doing to the existing pad to extend it, you are reducing its security due to reuse of existing information.
there are secure algorithms (although imperfect) for doing exactly this, and they are called symmetric cryptosystems, and you are trying to roll your own.

>>106125951
yes, and also yes
yes at the first point because performance is not even part of considerations
especially your adversary does possess enough compute power to crack your cypher,
and if not, they will in the future
a non-restrictive OTP encoding is quantum proof.
you WONT be recovering the plaintext, not in a gorilion years, not with infinite parallelism

>is it really an OTP
if your otp is indeed random, then it is.
random + random = more random
the modulo makes sure you cant even have a hint of the numbers that were used

>>106125956
addition + modulo destroys information
god you are so fucking dumb you cant even make a quick thought experiment

here:
42.
an arbitrary amount of numbers that go up to 255 have been added toegether, then moidulo'ed
which ones are they?

you are retarded
you dont even possess the basic cognitive functions one would expect from an adult.

>>106125808
You have switched the conversation from mere circumvention of privacy issues on mobile phones to a 1984-like scenario where plausible deniability doesn"t even exist and you'd simply be arrested for trying to conduct private communications irrespective of the intention, in which case you'd be better off using i2p than tor or trying to exit the grid altogether.

>>106122496 (OP)
Pine Phone

>>106125989
>1984-like scenario where plausible deniability
no, i didnt
YOU misunderstood the situation, completely

>>106125989
>>106126000
to clarify because youre slow:
>1984
thats exactly where brits are at
and its exactly the threat profile
its no longer github or instagram kiddie shit

>>106125985
1. you generate random OTP of length 100 bytes
2. you encrypt a plaintext of 100 bytes, producing ciphertext A
3. oh no, you need more bytes for the pad
4. you take your pad and "fold" it for another 100 bytes
5. you encrypt a plaintext of 100 bytes, producing ciphertext B
6. Eve takes A and B and starts guessing potential plaintexts for A. using these guesses, they extract guesses of your original OTP by reversing your modulo arithmetic. they then validate, with confidence, the OTP they extract by running your "folding" algorithm and validating it against ciphertext B.
7. when both plaintexts for A and B are readable, they have, with confidence, broken your shit. the confidence factor goes up with the more folds you do.
btw, this attack would run in linear time basically. I broke your shit after having woken up an hour ago and still sipping on my first coffee.

>>106125985
>N
An arbitrary substitution cipher has been used to decrypt this character, what is it? Oh, you can't figure it out? I guess substitution ciphers are unbreakable after all.

>>106126007
I haven't read anything about the UK ditching plausible deniability just yet, but it could easily go down that path.

>>106126018
>Eve takes A and B and starts guessing potential plaintexts for A. using these guesses,
thats where the non restrictive part of "non restrictive encoding" comes in

you intersperse it with random letters so as not to limit the possible messages
simple as
try fucking guessing that out lamao

>fonfonfon le big fukken scholars, and experts and such
at this pace its a good thing i read none of the books you did
they would have made me retarded

>>106126035
you are now re-inventing (in an incredibly shitty, non-optimized manner) the concept of an initialization vector. I'm done replying to you about this shit. I've worked with crypto for over a decade at this point, and you can choose to believe you are doing novel shit, or, you can accept that your shit is flawed, and go through the same learning process as every aspiring cryptographer, and come out the other side a more learned person.

>>106126065
>ive worked with crypto for years
and still you dont understand the technology

you know
authority arguments tend to fail, spectacularly when confronted with a non-retard

>>106126000
No you did.

Bottom line, you can turn a mobile phone into a private "micro laptop" that won't leak anything or allow any third parties to have any sort of control over it's facilities or over your data/communications, but that alone will be of limited value if you can be arrested for simply using an anonymous network.

>>106126092
>Bottom line, you can turn a mobile phone into a private "micro laptop" that won't leak anything or allow any third
thats not the assignment

your phone wont leak anything but the infra will
autists are retarded
you should know your place

>>106126103
>infra.
Do you realize that too can be fixed?

>>106126128
it cannot.
forget about it
unless you break traceability
but then you dont give a shit whether your device is leaking or not
you will use it only for special occasions, it will be powered won otherwise

has been for the past 30 years

>>106126128
>>106126136
in fact, like i wrote
using a sideloaded os with spoofers and shit only adds more points of failure and makes you glow in the night

if i were a glownigger i would be passing ersatz advices around as you do
focalizing like a complete fucking retard on securing the device when ultimately its the infra thats gonna snitch on you

>>106126136
>it cannot.
forget about it
unless you break traceability.

Maybe we're talking about to different things here, one fixable and the other helpless. What do you understand by infra?

>>106126170
the internet's infrastructure
you have to consider it compromised when dealing with state level actors
subpoenas, threats of blocking operations, sanctions, nothing is off the table to pressure isps into compliance
i dont even thnink they need pressure
by default i consider every channel to be comped
thats fieldcraft 101

>>106126170
>fieldcraft
>were talking about different things here
yes
we are not talking about securing a git repo or a fucking instagay account from your random neighborhood skiddies

were talking about ways to keep information flowing and being untraceable when utilizing your enemy's infrastructure
as obvious itt, you can take everything you have been taught and throw it into the garbage because everything you used was developed with a wholly different threat profile and with wholly different constraints in mind

>>106126198
Kek the confusion, totally different things indeed (I was talking infrared/bluetooth/etc communications), but you're basically talking the aforementioned 1984 scenario without plausible deniability or any presumption of innocence, not a technical issue that won't fix.

>>106126263
>but you're basically talking the aforementioned 1984 scenario without plausible deniability or any presumption of innocence
thats the scenario in england now.
hate speech is punishable by jail
and judges can put you inside for the duration of investigations
there has been cases exactly like this where the perp was even judged innocent
its nothing fucking new
try to follow the events
the past 30 minutes was breaking your ego and finally making you realize that youre talking about something completely irrelevant
ffs anon
listen more, talk less, and if you dont know, ask question

>>106126248
>were talking about ways to keep information flowing and being untraceable when utilizing your enemy's infrastructure.

Again, that's what darknets are for, but if it's illegal to even use them, your only hope is to be able to conceal your node in the darknet, which's still possible to some extent, but not necessarily practical.

>>106126286
So you're a 100% certain there isn't plausible deniability and presumption of innocence anymore when it comes to private digital communications in the UK? Again, I read a bunch of bad stuff, but never that specifically.

>>106126290
>Again, that's what darknets are for
except they are honeypots
its not the only solution
and its not a solution to begin with

you fucking autists are worthless
>nuh yous darknet
is normgroid tier

>>106126311
omg youre so slow
you dont need to breach presumption of innocence or plausible deniability when you can jail people for the duration of the investigation, prison in which they get killed by pisslamists

>>106126316
>except they are honeypots
>its not the only solution
>and its not a solution to begin with

They're honeypots only if you're stupid and cucked enough to believe demoralizing glowie propaganda.

Oh noes! the cattle's trying to escape muh clearweb ranch, the humaaaaanity!

...fucking glow back already.

>>106126354
>darknet being a honeypot is glowie propaganda
youre either a very retarded autist
or youre an offcum cocksucker
there isnt a third option

for the onlookers:
to access the darkent you have to go through an access point
and thats where offcum will be waiting for you
but suuure
its totally not a honeypot

>>106126327
>you dont need to breach presumption of innocence or plausible deniability when you can jail people for the duration of the investigation.

So if they got nothing on you but an encrypted stream of data without a certain target host, why would there be an investigation if you have plausible deniability and are pressumed innocent to begin with? You either have them or you don't, make up your mind, nigger.

>>106126372
>for the onlookers: to access the darkent you have to go through an access point and thats where offcum will be waiting for you but suuure its totally not a honeypot.

Either you can prove this to always be true for every tor-like darknet or you're talking out of your ass, and Hyphanet doesn't even work like that.

>>106126389
>why would there be an investigation
oh my fucking god
youre completely dysfunctional
youre entirely fucking retarded
without any redeeming quality

>an investigation can rule that youre innocent, too
>youre not automatically guilty
autism is a hard handicap
youre profoundly retarded
like really
im not trying to be insulting
you shouldnt be iunsulted

youre developmentally retarded
your brain doesnt function in a satsfactory manner
the reason i tell you that is because you have opinions on everything
but you shouldnt. youre uninformed.
you should keep those opinions to yourself
you and the other retard have slid this thread and made me repeat myself multipe times because youre just that deficient
stop
its annoying
youre sliding valid discussion
and you wasted my time on correcting your retarded ass
fucking time and again
instead of providing tips and tricks and advancing the conversation
youre a netto negative to this world
especially with your immature egos
just shut the fuck up already wtfs wrong with you?
or ask chat fucking gpt
have some manner you retarded piece of shit
i have to leave now
instead of teaching fieldcraft im rectifying the retardation of human failures
good job.

bump

>>106122525
>How does this work in the UK anyway?
It looks like this.

>>106122496 (OP)
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>106128309
> “double anonymity”
…. Riiiiggghht. Sure.
I’ll need triple anonymity before using that.

>>106122496 (OP)
>has gone
Bad news buckaroo, it was shit 300 years ago too.

>>106122496 (OP)
>What are some fully encrypted mobile devices out there? Or operating systems for phones? Or at least, ones that aren’t contemporary
fuck off questiontard

>>106126286
This is all good.
Since the government has the capabilities, they can’t deny knowing something and doing nothing about it and will themselves be complicit if not aiding and abetting.
Imagine unsolicited phone calls going away, those are 95% of everything I get.

>>106126327
> jailed during investigation
In the US it’s about $1M/y for wrongful incarceration.

>>106125905
>youre not facing skiddies with a trannypad, youre facing fukken state level actors with server farms and botnets for distributed computing
No. You're not. This is 100% schizo bullshit. I did the cybersecurity for my job, and we had a couple of firewalls and that was it, and it was fine. And a small company of 30 employees is much, much more likely to be a target than you are. You've lost your mind if you think foreign governments are personally after you. Are you Donald Trump? Are you the White House? No, you're some faggot NEET teen who's been watching too many YouTube videos and wishes that anyone, anywhere, was interested in your shitty web traffic. If you're uploading 20PB of fresh CP you filmed in your house, then perhaps the CIA will be interested in you. But if that's the case, I hope they do find you. Those people should be caught, but nobody, anywhere, gives a fuck about some paranoid incel posting on /g/ going "waaaah the Feds are trying to intercept my streams of Boku no Pico and women's wrestling, waaaaah, save me steganography".

And if you're that fucking mental about being monitored, why the fuck are you posting here?

>>106128870
Speaking of, at what point does this just become "false imprisonment"?

>>106128309
How the fuck has the anglosphere gone from "don't doxx yourself on the internet" to "you must now doxx yourself to use the internet"?
How fucking absurd is this?

>>106128848
Hello sir.
Spammers have enough leverage to work around this.
All this is doing is leveraging sophisticated criminal networks while enslaving the plebs.

>>106128900
After Tarrant, you don't know shit about who they target.

>>106128900
>And if you're that fucking mental about being monitored, why the fuck are you posting here?
Prisoners complain from their jailcell all the time.
And they get repeatedly beaten for complaining about it too.

What's stopping those cops from beating them btw?

>>106126286
What happened to puffery? Satire?
Apparently it doesn't exist anymore in common law?

>oh it's allowed on stage, just not on the internet

>>106125946
>thinks he can vote himself out of a genocide
Moron.

>>106124378
Is that why they're ignoring the islamic grooming gangs while cracking down on too much thigh on an anime pic?

Reminder: any penny spent on mindless censorship and surveillance is another not spent actually cracking down on child molesters and child sex trafficking rings.
They want this the most. It's a neat distraction AND it increases the demand for their product.

And surveillance is never used prejudicially amirite?
>oh he walked his dog this close to a park that maybe a child played at a month ago
>gotta label this as problematic

>>106128848
>they can’t deny knowing something and doing nothing about it
were waaay past that point, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF7JwKU4At8
>>106128870
if you can sue
if the judge doesnt deem your suit has no merit
>b-but the system is perfect
quite obviously its not
>>106128900
>>no youre wrong
>proceeds to say the exact thing i said above
wtf is wrong with your head?
if you have nothing to say, stay silent, kek
>>106128949
yeah no you get jailed for waving the flag of your own country
https://x.com/Steve_Laws_/status/1754619298163634446

We have until around October before the digital reset is enacted on the entire internet, this is also when the ECB starts phasing in CBDC.
It will be the end, for now.
Our duty as hackers, nerds and digital enthusiasts is to figure out how to best work around it and protect at least a part of free communication and a part of the information we've generated over the internet's lifespan.
So the question i have is:
>Are current anonymization technologies like Tor or I2P strong enough to resists and are they capable of scaling?
I know they're field tested by other people living under authoritarian states.
Tor has the user friendliness required for a larger user base, where it seems like zero emphasis has been put into user friendliness for more decentralized networks.
Zeronet got extremely popular even with bad underlying tech, all because it was easy to use and had a good UX which is not the case for both I2P and Hyphanet.
It's a problem, since these are the technologies we will have to use.
Another problem is the current most popular network, which is Tor. Most of the important infra, entry and exit nodes is operated in western datacenters. In a coming VPN clampdown we should expect Tor to be viciously attacked, especially since millions of teen boys will use it for porn, post age verification.

>>106129449
>We have until around October before the digital reset is enacted on the entire internet,
>this is also when the ECB starts phasing in CBDC.
sauce?

>Are current anonymization technologies like Tor or I2P strong enough to resists and are they capable of scaling?
it depends on the actual threat
if they go full 1984, they will id you.
if they will go limpwristed like they do with torrent sites in my country tor is pretty adequate
it might have problems scaling though
but mostly everything depends on how the law will be enforced, if only
its already getting enacted in the uk, but people are fed up and in the streets so the law might end up being unenforcible just from the sheer quantity of perps

if you want/need actual anonymity only a burner device, borrowed ap + rotation of access points and devices can provide it
this is the degree of anonymity you want if you need anonymity for operational communication
borrowed ap will most likely be a wifi
you can get it for free in many places
otherwise, you borrow it
cops cant be at all places all the time
its gonna take some time til they get to your ap
if you do things right, the only thing they can do is use a directional antenna
beware of cameras
so that they dont cross reference your arrival/departure with the communication
beware of what you google too
try to do that in an untraceable manner, plenty of people fell bc of their internet search history
wifi relays are a thing, you may be able to leverage one to avoid being traced with cctv

>>106129638
https://www.cryptopolitan.com/europe-central-bank-oct-2025-digital-euro/#:~:text=The%20European%20Central%20Bank%20%28ECB%29%20has%20set%20October,asked%20about%20Europe%E2%80%99s%20plan%20for%20a%20Digital%20Euro.

I'm not expecting full 1984 at first so networks that can operate in China, Iran and Russia at the moment should be "enough", especially if they become widespread to a point where it's infeasible to arrest all users.
Like a bike lock, the best way to stay safe is to have the best lock on an average bike and park among the others.
I know Tor can actually function in China when people use snowflakes since they mimic normal SSL to the t, not even DPI detects it.
It'll likely become an arms race between hackers and glowniggers

>>106129727
>October 2025 target
Why october 2025?
What in the name of fuck are they planning for that month military wise that is forcing this shit to happen in that month?


There's no elections in the US in that month this year right?

>>106129727
>European Central Bank sets October 2025 target for digital Euro launch
its not gonna pass.
i mean, a couple countries may adopt it, but its not gonna pass.
it could have if the fall of europe was uniform
but it isnt. and now they panick. push on all the buttons at once
they do the one thing that invariably failed on european nations: oppression
the eu is gonna either disappear, or undergo extensive reforms

>It'll likely become an arms race between hackers and glowniggers
theres other parameters: convenience and barrier to entry

convenience because everything is dependent on the adversary
shitposters aint gonna hack/soc engineer aps and then rotate them
theyll just stop shitposting

but theres also a certain point where one side wins because the other doesnt care to fight anymore
esp in an 1984 scenario
if everyone stops shitposting, the uk is not gonna expend resources to catch the last 100

i think a good median solution would be tor into vpn in some shithole
preferably paid with crypto
or maybe in cash, who knows
maybe paid from some country that has prepaid visas or some shit
a crooked western union transfer
but then again the paper trail is problematic for the average shitposter
i dont know how to account for the paper trail, ngl
i guess a vpn legally located in a based state/country would be ones best bet and count on the vpn not to leak its payement data
*
it would be much better to find a solution that could be applied at scale with minimal effort for the payment bit

>>106129875
collapse of ukraine?
ww3?
wtf election nobody cares about you burgermeat

>>106129875
>>106129913
cont
nah, i bet on nothing ever happens
the eu has clear opposition inside its own parliament
more and more countries weigh the option of just leaving
thats the social messaging
parliamentaries talk openly about that

i think its the order of some retarded faggots from above
or maybe even inside sabotage

>>106129875
>>106129962
cont of cont
theres still gonna be a delay bw the moment cbdc gets ratified and constituent countries adopt it
some never will
some countries dont even use the euro so the ecb can suck itself on that front
so thats not related to oct this year, per se

>>106129875
No. And I have no idea why that month is so significant but they've somehow streamlined everything around it. Agenda 2030 is early it seems, probalby due to growing discontent with mass migration and its consequences, also increasing poverty.
>>106129898
I2P, it can penetrate even China's firewall
>>106129962
Parlament is literally a sham. Look at the actual system, it's setup so only the UNELECTED commission can draft law. Parlament has no power. They can't even prosecute Von Der Leyen for obvious crimes.
>>106129986
EU countries without Euro will have their own versions of it, but the underlying system will be the same. They've dreamed of this for years, what Klaus Schwab called the "cyberpandemic".
Information is contagious, resembling a virus, so the only way to fight it is containment and vaccination. Digital ID is a permanent covid pass.

>>106130030
>No. And I have no idea why that month is so significant but they've somehow streamlined everything around it. Agenda 2030 is early it seems, probalby due to growing discontent with mass migration and its consequences, also increasing poverty.
My theory is that Israel will actually aggressively expand into the region at this point and western countries will mere purge (as in proper fucking genocide) anti-semites for criticising it. They will round them up and kill them.

>>106130030
>Parlament has no power. They can't even prosecute Von Der Leyen for obvious crimes.
yeah but thats not the point
its to evidence the sentiment among countries and their attitude towards the whole european mess
slovakia
poland
hungary is not far from leaving
poland has 2 more years of a now-minority government
>covid pass
this is how belgium did to it
i expect the same happening with cbdc

again, cbdc could pass if the plan would have been uniform
but because countries like uk, france, spain, germany are much more advanced in the destruction of europe, the rest of the content went "wtf, i want out now"
and idk wtfs wrong with baguettes or germanoids
but the rest of nations are starting to get violent

either they back the fuck down
or globohomo is finished

>>106130030
>>106130115
>belgium
forgot picrel

>>106130115
With the amount of cocaine these people are on regularly, I have no doubt they will try to most batshit insane shit and think it will work.
They must be coked and sedated out of their minds at this point.

>>106130131
belgium is the most cucked place on the planet. Insanely high taxes and you don't even get very good welfare, super anti-car + LEZs in the 3 biggest cities, expensive, lower wages than neighboring countries and of course laws as bad as they could get.

>>106130115
I don't expect their plan to work but I'm attempting to at least get a bearing for how succesful it will be and what damage will be done.
I managed to get around the vaxx through some legal fuckery but only because I saw it coming and could prepare, I helped several friends out of it as well. Knowledge is power.
And a reminder
>the American government now runs the internet archive

>>106130134
yeah because theyre headed straight for the wall
had they waited another 10 years, pref. 20
then europe would have fallen like a house of cards because everyone who would have interest in it would be too old to do anything about it
esp. with the demographic dynamics
>>106130154
yeah but its pretty decent in what matters
its safer than average.
theres comparatively very few beheadings and stabbing incidents in belgioom
fucken germany is at multiple stabbings per day lamao
>>106130161
i think there will be civil wars in europe
i think in some countries that civil war will be lost
i think thats the case of spain, their demographics are fucked. too many adversaries in the age of fighting
might be the case of france, because the nation has no cohesion to it. too much leftist rot
i think a civil war will happen in england but brits will win because they still have national cohesion, and the demographics
idk about germany, it wouldnt surprize me that they go with legislative solutions
in the east...
it depends en tirely on whether putin is globohomo or not
if he is, he will declare war
probably take all of europe
and then ww3
etc
replay of ww2 but culturally enriched edition
if hes not
the east will probably create the vysegrad group
and intervene militarily in the west after a while


anyways
a lot of damage
possibly ww3

>>106130244
>its safer than average.
We have semi-regular shootings now. It's not that safe.

>>106130262
i live in brussels
wth are you on about
its 10x safer compared to the mid 90s

>>106130262
>>106130288
cont
yeah schaarbeek is a fucking shithole
but its nowhere near like fucking birmingham

>>106130244
Wherever it pops off first will get swarmed with foreign volunteers. So many young men are yearning to fight.

>>106130357
>So many young men are yearning to fight.
from both sides
i think this will cancel out
what matters is the big picture
mostly what are the proportions of the combatant forces
britain has several thousand combatrant personel form what i hear
they wont even register in a clash where theres milions on each side
same with the volountaries
they wont make much of a difference if they dont come in numbers and well equipped

>>106130357
>>106130394
now that i think of it:
things are gonna get spicy
jihadis from all europe will come to the flashpoint
hopefully the fire wont propagate and they will all be attracted to the fight like moths to a flame
but this might be a problem
jihadis are active in european prisons since years
it stands to reason they can field a one million men army in europe
given how things are gonna go, they will burn out so to speak
the us arent gonna pass an opportunity to expand their influence in europe
the east will fight for survival, hopefully putin wont attack the east flank when its gonna be distracted
jihadis die
west europe is in cinders
but nobody will ever do the globohomo again
because german population could have been isolated information-wise

but not modern populations
and heres where things get technological again
we need to keep the signal up so that we wont forget who put us in this shit this time
and this is how they lose.
alot of people are gonna die but i think we win in the end
putin is an unknown quantity for me
i miss having a cousin living in rasha. he could have provided more reliable datapoints
but the fool had to divorce his natasha and he lost staying permit

>>106130552
see you in the trenches

>>106130924
yeah i guess
a possible solution is still possible but i dont count on it

*peaceful

>>106130977
I guess if it's "appear strong when you're" weak, the European Commission must feel VERY weak at the moment. It could just implode like a wet fart.

>>106130995
>must feel VERY weak at the moment.
theyre acting on behalf of big globohomo
politically theyre weak as fuck
but on the reverse- most its constituent countries have thoroughly corrupt governments, firmly in the grasp of big globohomo
they dont need to be strong.
and the population isnt quite there yet.
people have still to accept that the choice isnt bw being poor or getting invaded
it is bw being poor or getting invaded AND poor.
and beheaded/raped/etc
germany is winning but its all thouroughly captured by the kikes

at the origin i think its the fact that trump, or more precisely, the white american protestant lobby recovered the ascendant from the kike lobby, who then pivoted into europe
it would explain why everything gets turned up to 11 all of a sudden

>>106128309
What happens with SMS? Kids can have phones, so how does that verify it exactly?

>>106131353
>so how does that verify it exactly

It doesn't, as in you just have to receive a text confirmation and that's it although not all websites use this system.

Most of them will use Yoti