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Previous thread: >>106113200

exploooooninnnnnnnng coooompoooooteeeer

>>106130025
doot coom

Manjaro is sometimes described as beginner friendly but is it really?
CAN anything Arch related be beginner friendly?

>>106130129
The only part of Arch that isn't friendly to beginners is installing it and choosing/setting up your DE. Distros like Manjaro or Endeavour that have nice easy to use installers make that part easy for beginners.
I would not recommend Manjaro though because it's always behind Arch and doesn't use Arch's repos. I would recommend Endeavour because it literally IS Arch with one added repo that is easily removable if you want.

>>106130166
I see
I am not familiar with Endeavor actually, I'll look it up. Thanks m8

>>106130129
>Manjaro is sometimes described as beginner friendly but is it really?
Yes. I used it for 2 years without ever touching the terminal, aside from copy pasting a single command when their GUI package manager fucked something up and told me to run that specific command. I never even learned what package manager it used. They did a good job making it easy to use, but from my experience it was somewhat buggy.
>CAN anything Arch related be beginner friendly?
SteamOS, ChimeraOS, Garuda. I'd say these are pretty beginner friendly, despite 2 of them mainly targeting handhelds and HTPCs.

How to run .bat files with lutris?
I pirated this game called Troubleshooter and it requires 2 executables to run (server and client), so it came with a simple .bat file start "" "ProtoLion.exe" --pack --usedic --steam main but running it from lutris gives me an error. I can run it with wine cmd but only if I put quotes around Start.bat.

>>106130291
is there a problem with putting quotes around Start.bat?

>>106130166
>The only part of Arch that isn't friendly to beginners is installing it and choosing/setting up your DE.
mhm, how about the fact you have to tune into arch news to know when an update will brick something and require manual intervention? I would never call anything "beginner friendly" if it's updates are fucking shit up constantly and require the user to fix shit.
Arch, and by extension Endeavour, are just not beginner friendly at all.

>>106130328
you can just wait until it breaks then Google the issue when it happens and how to fix it will be the first result

>>106130309
it just says "Start.bat" could not be found. Same thing if I put quotes around whole path.

>>106130336
Sounds like a very low standard of "beginner friendly". This shit never happens on iOS/Android, perhaps Linux distros could learn a few things.

>>106130328
>constantly
sure bud

>>106130291
qrd, what are the executables it needs?

>>106130346
I don't know anything about Lutris, but I fucked around with wine just now
so if you give a full path (or a path with a ./ at front at least) wine can find the file. Ignore the warnings about no wine32
Hope this makes sense

>>106130374
>https://archlinux.org/news/
>3 required manual interventions in the past 12 months
>the other 7 updates are "maybe/probably needs manual intervention"
Yes, anon. This is something a normal person would consider "constantly", even if only counting the 3 required ones. It's unacceptable.

>>106130433
The only one that would affect most people was the nvidia one

>>106130291
If your Lutris is installed as a flatpak, check if it has permissions to access the file path where the .bat is located.

>>106130291
>>106130408
>>106130424
Managed to fix it right now by setting Working directory... First time ever needed to do this. It runs. There seems to be an issue with the way lutris reads location of .bat files, this link gave me an idea. https://github.com/lutris/lutris/issues/5130

updooting my ubuntu in wsl after starting it to help the dude with his wine question
is this shit serious lol

>>106130522
nvm it took like 10 seconds

>>106130372
that's what the dumbed down distros are going for, people call them immutable

>>106130780
People, no they called themselves immutable and promoted the bastardization

>>106130328
>visiting a website once a month is REALLY HARD
I am not sure what you're trying to say here about yourself.

Installed Linux for the first time (Mint).

Done all the recommended setup steps on the official guide.

Is there a list or something recommending what to do next in terms of learning how to use it? Other than installing software.

>>106130917
Learn to ask intelligent questions. Also stop redditspacing.

That's not very friendly GNU/linux thread...

>>106130871
Nobody likes having to check the news to see if shit's fucked, at all. You can cope as much as you want but its subpar.
>>106130917
Most of the learning process comes from troubleshooting or attempting to edit things. Wouldnt be bad to familiarize yourself with the folder structure so you can tell more or less where things are as a quick read and the priorities for config files(home>etc>default)

>>106130961
It was good advice imo

>>106130968
>Most of the learning process comes from troubleshooting or attempting to edit things.
God I wish I could go back to the time when I was curious and would break shit then have to figure out how to fix it. Now I'm fucking lazy and retarded and already know how to fix anything I fuck up anyway

>>106130917
Check dmesg, if any driver/firmware is missing
Install and config zram
Install tlp (if it's a laptop)
Free resolv.conf or install a different dns handler (gui widget was connection specific, if i remember correctly).
Give the general settings a look.

>>106131213
Personally i just installed a distro that came with i3 and just went through the configs manually instead of relying on gui tools. It's been a good learning experience to get how things are handled in loonix. I only broke things like 3 times and fixed things in like 5 minutes anyway because i knew what i changed so it wasnt a painful experience.
I suppose the next step would be installing arch without a script or gentoo but im honestly too lazy for this and would rather spend that time doing something else.

Hi, Linux newbie here. Using fedora 42 x11 for now. Today marks the first week of a complete Linux experience without windows, and I'm really liking it. Yeah, I almost had to tinker everything and run into a couple of problems, but I learned a lot.
The thing is, is it possible that, even if steam says I'm running games at 60fps, I see games running less smooth than in windows?
I installed mangohud, and even there, it says that my frametime is about 16ms, which for 60fps, should be fine to see the game smooth.

>>106130433
ive had 0 required interventions in the past 2 years on tumbleweed myself. always wild to me how insanely defensive arch users get over their broken shitpile because it requires knowing how to run fdisk/gdisk to make 3 partitions and how to copy and paste a pacstrap line

>>106130166
>I would not recommend Manjaro though because it's always behind Arch and doesn't use Arch's repos
That's the point tho

>>106131923
If you're using a compositor like picom or any other then it could cause such issues. You might also want to check what settings you're using with wine (sync and fsr if applicable) or compare it with a different runner like wine-ge.
Finally there's testing things with and without gamescope. Do keep in mind the game's internal resolution and the output resolution.

>>106130917
You learn the most when you have to fix things.
So if everything works, enjoy the calm sea, if things break you get free linux lessons.
As with any skill, the fastest way to get extra trouble is to do things out of your comfort zone.

>>106129489
>The "noob-friendly" versions of it are Nobara and Bazzite.
Nobara has drivers and codecs set up out of the box, sure, but it is not a user-friendly experience in the long-term. Updating/installing software on it is just total crap, and Discover doesn't even work properly on it (it's Flatpak-only on Nobara). Nobara saves 10 minutes of setup compared to Fedora, and then wastes hours of your time moving forwards as you wait for the sluggish update tool to finish its job. It's a Frankenstein OS that feels like alpha software.

How do I get Limine on Fedora?

>>106132484
copy limine’s EFI to EFI boot partition, edit limine’s conf to boot Fedora somehow (kernel-direct or shim EFI?), and done

Probably not gonna get anything out of asking, but what's the best ARM Linux for a Odroid N2+? It's been sitting for years, on account of no X11 hardware acceleration, but I want to try it again, especially now that my mom is borrowing my Roku. Have the people at Armbian figured it out already?

Is the Steam I can get from Linux Mint's software manager the official version offered and maintained by Valve themselves?
Sorry if that's a retarded question, I am very new to everything Linux and the fact that this thing has like... 20 reviews total is throwing me off.

>>106132671
it's an official release from Steam maintained by Linux Mint
but if you're asking if it's the real Steam then ya it is

>>106132671
It's just the installer that grabs normal steam automatically.

>>106132604
I found a lot of old forum posts (years back) complaining about the lack of X11 hardware acceleration on Armbian. The lack of more recent posts suggests that it either works now, or people have simply moved on to Wayland (which is pretty good these days).

I'm installing a TTY-only instance of Debian alongside my normal desktop OS for a distraction free writing setup. I end up watching jewtube or beating my meat way too often, so I want a dual-boot setup where I'll need to restart my PC to access a GUI. I'm also wanting to become more familiar with the coreutils, and scripting, so this seems like prescriptive solution.

I don't know anything about TTYs, ASCII, UTF-8, encoding, etc. Nothing. I just know I can't scroll up and look at the terminal output history like I can in a terminal emulator(tmux would solve this, right?), and it's black and white, and the "resolution", font, font size, etc. are fixed. Assuming there will be more surprises, since I've only ever used modern terminal emulators, never an actual tty.

I'd like to be able to adjust the resolution, font, font size and colors. I know I'm limited to 16 colors, and that terminal fonts aren't like system fonts, but that's about it.

What should I be looking into and taking into consideration before I attempt this?

>>106132754
>if you're asking if it's the real Steam then ya it is
Yeah, I guess that's the most important part of the question, yes.

>>106132815
>>106132754
I see.
I am asking because I tried installing it by downloading the .deb straight from steampowered.com
I ran it, opened it using the software manager and installed it that way. When I tried launching it it said it needed to download some extra shit (libs something?) which I did. Then after downloading all those things I ran it again and it didn't launch.
I did all of that in a live session using a USB drive, could that somehow explain why it didn't actually launch in the end?

>>106132908
did all the dependencies correctly download and install or was there any errors?

>>106132953
I do not recall seeing any error messages, no.
I was just testing whether or not I would be able to install and launch Steam before actually fully installing Mint. Now that I know the one in the Software Manager is legit I can give that a try but yeah, I don't really understand what went wrong with what I did before.

>>106132974
could be a lot of shit, try running it from a terminal instead of just clicking icon. It will tell you why it crashed to help you diagnose the issue.

>>106132908
>I tried installing it by downloading the .deb straight from steampowered.com
You're bypassing your distro's arrangements to make things work if any is necessary, including dependencies. If your distro has it available in its repos, its better to grab it from there.

>>106132908
I wouldn't trust anything to work on live session. Also Steam needs 32bit libs for gfx and shit, and if you install it using the deb I don't know if that pulls those down.

>>106132989
I'll try that next, thanks.

>>106132994
>If your distro has it available in its repos, its better to grab it from there.
I guess I'm still too used to the concept of downloading installers like on Windows and I figured .deb files were a close equivalent to that.
Also, I gotta be honest with you, I still don't fully understand the concept of repos and the whole thing makes me a bit nervous. Is installing something using a Software Manager and installing it using Terminal functionally the same? As in, is the OS doing literally the exact same thing, downloading the exact same files from exactly the same place?

>>106133012
>I wouldn't trust anything to work on live session.
Yeah, true.
>team needs 32bit libs for gfx and shit, and if you install it using the deb I don't know if that pulls those down.
Yeah, those were the extra files I was asked to download. That was a separate download after the first one, yeah

>>106132897
did you even buy dracula pro?

>>106133094
uhhh.. checks in the mail

>>106133107
be honest you're using standard dracula theme

>>106133131
lol i'm not using dracula at all, actually, i just googled tty color scheme and saw that.

what's /fglt/ consensus on Trinity? (KDE 3.5)
I recently saw some screenshots and had this strong nostalgia feeling from the first time I tried loonix in my life

>>106133153
it's rad

>>106133181
why did you make it gay

>>106133181
Is that Konqi?
He has come a long way...

>>106133182
you mean based

>>106133187
i kinda miss using trinity now that i think about it

>>106133186
aye

>>106133187
>censoring singular character usernname
>it's definetly just fucking 'u'

>>106133230
calm down, toots, you're hysterical

>>106133253
ok u

>>106133153
I like it and I'd consider using it if they still had the old KDE 1 and 2 decors

>>106133261
lol why would it be u?

it was my initials, you fuckin' phony

>>106133275
funny that your initials are one character, 'u'.

>>106133283
fuckin tripfag thinks he's doing a bit in the desktop thread.

>>106133318
nigga post ur desktop and let me tell you bout it

>>106133054
>Is installing something using a Software Manager and installing it using Terminal functionally the same? As in, is the OS doing literally the exact same thing, downloading the exact same files from exactly the same place?
Yeah that's the point of the front end. It just calls the terminal version under the hood. In the worst case scenario only a subset of the advanced features from the terminal version are available, but this is only relevant for a very specific tasks. Install, uninstall, update and search should be available.
>I still don't fully understand the concept of repos
What do you think a windows application does when you enable auto updates? It checks a defined URL, grabs the installer and executes it, then the installer runs its own scripts.
A repo does the same job, but serves a lot of applications instead in a centralized way. You can treat it as a store of sorts if thats easier to get. You have curated repos aka your own distros, then unsupervised repos in the form of PPAs and the like. Since the latter are unsupervised you should trust the source before adding them, or have a very good reason to do so.
Besides that, there are other forms of distribution in the form of flatpak, appimage and snaps which have their own way to be managed. These act more like containers and applications installed through them do not share libraries with your system.
I don't use mint so I dunno if it's software manager ui offers a section for these or not.
If it sounds like a lot, after using the for a bit things should fall into their place. Its more complicated to explain than it is to use.

>>106132484
It's not worth it. Nobody has supplied a limine.conf for Fedora, and there is a lot you'll have to configure. Plus, you'll have to manually do surgery in /boot whenever there's a Limine update. If GRUB is a dealbreaker, consider CachyOS instead.

I'm trying to use ping from iputils-ping, but get hit with
ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW
ping: socket: Operation not permitted
ping: => missing cap_net_raw+p capability or setuid?

Do I really have to give myself an extra permission to use ping now? What?

>>106133379
Thank you for the very detailed explanation Anon, this part
>Yeah that's the point of the front end. It just calls the terminal version under the hood
and this part
>What do you think a windows application does when you enable auto updates? It checks a defined URL, grabs the installer and executes it, then the installer runs its own scripts.
A repo does the same job, but serves a lot of applications instead in a centralized way
Help me get a better understanding of the whole thing and put it into perspective.
This part also addresses my main concern:
>then unsupervised repos in the form of PPAs and the like.
However if I am understanding correctly, things on the Software Manager are already curated by Mint devs themselves and should all be safe, right? At least when it comes to major programs like, I don't know, Steam, Firefox, GIMP and the like.

>>106133456
Yeah, third party repos exist but you have to google for them add them manually, ie go into some github page and copy paste stuff. No distro pre installs them.

>>106133624
Cool, so it's literally impossible to accidentally use them.
Thanks again for the input.

>>106133630
not that anon but avoid PPAs at all costs

>>106130862
>>106130780
>nooo, immutable BAD!!!
Man, some Linux users really don't like shit that just works and would prefer fucking around and troubleshooting just to feel superior.

>>106134213
>you have a non immutable distro therefore your system will break
Nope. I dont even have snapshots enabled.

>>106134213
>just works
Nothing is stopping a mutable distro from having sane defaults, and indeed many of them do. The problem with immutable distros is the reliance on Flatpaks.

>>106131350
>Free resolv.conf or install a different dns handler (gui widget was connection specific, if i remember correctly).
why?

What is the difference between Fedora workstation and Fedora KDE?

>>106134362
Workstation uses gnome.

>>106132159
If using plasma, so my composer is Kwin. I'm on x11 too, cause I feel it doesn't lag the mouse. About wine and such, Im primarily using steam, so the only things I did what testing proton 10, experimental, and installing protonGE, all 3 showing the same behavior. Also, I use "gamemoderun %command%" as run options

>>106134318
I've never seen someone successfully update Ubuntu to a new version without it bricking something.

>>106134321
>The problem with immutable distros is the reliance on Flatpaks.
You can just use Appimage. Or, in the case of atomic distros, you can just use rpm-ostree.

>>106134340
Default is to accept whatever DNS provider the router sends.
However if you are using portable devices (i.e laptop, smartphone) on public wifi, you are open to DNS hijacks and other malicious methods.
It's recommended to use DNS over TLS (DoT).

Many ISPs also use DNS blocking, alternative DNS might return part of your net freedom.

>>106134460
basically, you are fixing things that may not be broken, at all.

>>106134482
If that's your view internet safety & security practices.

>>106134439
>You can just use Appimage
Same issue as Flatpaks: disk overhead, RAM overhead, and CPU overhead.

>>106134482
DNS is a simple setting bro.
>>106132604
Does it have a graphics accelerator to begin with?

how bad is 50xx series nvidia on linux? will I suffer?

>>106134436
>gamemoderun
gamescope != gamemode
>https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
gamescope -W 1920 -H 1080 -r 60 -- %command%
Make sure its installed in your system. It's solved issues for some people so its worth a shot.
>kwin
You could try disabling vsync if its enabled, just for testing purposes then see how it fares if gamescope doesnt do the trick. I've never sued kde so i've got no clue where the settings are or whether its instantly applied or requires to restart your session.

>>106134439
>you can just use rpm-ostree
I don't think that works with Discover

Flatpaks may be slower than regular packages. But are they slower than running the same applications through Microsoft Windows?

>>106130424
Ok so this schizo tripfag is finnish, gotcha.

>75 year old dad has been complaining about windows 11 and all the AI garbage that's being shoved down his throat
>decide to show him a linux alternative
>make a live usb with Zorin OS as it seemed like an accessible distro for old farts coming from windows
>boot into it, show him around
>finished, unplug usb stick and reboot
>"please enter your bitlocker recovery code"
>mfw microsoft fuckers silently enabled bitlocker and booting into a live usb triggers the TPM to prompt for the bitlocker code on the next boot
>which I didn't know
>of course dad has no idea what bitlocker even is, much less know the code
>sweating bullets
>search around a bit, forums full of people bitten in the ass by this, someone mentions the bitlocker code should be in the microsoft account
>next challenge: finding out which microsoft account my dad used for his laptop and how to get into it
>was smart enough to write down the password, but just had "microsoft" written with it, no username
>eventually figure out he used his gmail address for his microsoft account
>try to log in on his phone
>asks to confirm with the authenticator app
>authenticator not set up with MS account
>set it up using his gmail for 2FA which he could still access on his phone
>finally able to confirm login to MS account
>search around a bit
>it's actually fucking there
>it works
>crisis averted

That almost led to irrecoverable face loss and grounds for committing sudoku.
Never has simply booting into a live usb been such a wild ride for me. Fuck microsoft and fuck secureboot.
Now to figure out how to safely install Zorin OS as a dual boot without running into this bitlocker bullshit again.

>>106134851
>as a dual boot
even after all this you still trust that toy os to not fuck you over again?

I still can't believe the 6.15.9 kernel has this freezing problem. My librewolf is stuttery because of it and it is indeed caused by the kernel and the kernel only. I think I'll try compiling 6.16 now since anon mentioned it yesterday.

>>106134840
>finnish
What led you to that conclusion?

>>106134819
I dont think its possible for it to be slower than windows, with its inherent overhead.
>>106134851
sounds like i dodged a bullet by disabling bitlocker, which for some god forsaken reason was enabled by default on a fresh install, before i installed linux

is 'immutable' just slang for 'closed source'?

>>106134874
He thinks "benis" is exclusively finnish meme.
>>106134903
Means stuff boots sort of like Android.

>>106134903
No, but its kind of like android in its behavior. Go and read about fedora atomic, almost all of the immutable distros are based on their stuff.

Why are the GNOME devs so averse to adding customization options anyway?
I think the DE is pretty stylish as it is and I actually like it quite a bit, but them not adding some incredibly obvious customization options like solid colors for dock instead of transparency, or being able to move the top bar to the bottom or the sides kind of pisses me off.
I know there are workarounds but the whole thing just feels very silly.

>>106134599
>Same issue as Flatpaks: disk overhead, RAM overhead, and CPU overhead.
I'm pretty sure there's no RAM or CPU overhead, and the little disk overhead it has is a worthy sacrifice for usability.

>>106134805
>advanced feature only relevant to power users doesn't work with Discover
No shit.

>>106134953
took them like two decades to implement thumbnails in the file picker, how many years do you think it'd take them to implement those features?

>>106134819
They're not "slower" at all. They just open one or two seconds slower. Using them has no performance overhead.

>>106134980
cpu bound applications might suffer so its really up to what kind of application it is, there's no such thing as free sandboxing

>>106134976
I've been led to believe the reason for that was stubbornness, as in them refusing to implement it.
Is it actually incompetence? Them being -unable- to fix it?

>>106134953
They allow you to use extensions.
They believe a UI/UX should not have any confusing options by default.

>>106135034
I'm not sure what it was exactly, but I remember a few GNOME devs explicitly saying "You don't need this, you can just click on the file and it will show you a preview".

>>106135056
I mean... a checkmark to select between transparent and solid dock should not be confusing for anyone, it sounds more like autism, especially with comments like
>"You don't need this, you can just click on the file and it will show you a preview"
kek
But yeah, I guess I should either use the extensions or use a different DE

>>106135127
time to wait for cosmic, its gonna take a while though

>>106135127
Ah, anon. You don't seem to realize that GNOME is mainly developed by designers.
You see, they'd first need to have a 2 hour discussion on should they use a checkbox or a toggle/slider. Then after the discussion it would take them a week to actually decide what to use. And then when they finally do, it would take them a few more hours of discussion and few more weeks of iteration on which solid color they should use.
It's just easier to not even have a feature at that point.

I want to install linux, i avoided it before cause of anti-cheat but i can can play my favorits on my steam deck.

what distro do you recommend?

I had ubuntu before and have steamdeck

waht do you rewcommend?

I really want to rice it,i don't know if i should jump into arch or go for something more stable like mint.

>>106135159
I am not familiar with Cosmic but a quick Google search says it's been out for a year.
Do you mean wait for it to catch on? Something like that?

>>106135165
>You see, they'd first need to have a 2 hour discussion on should they use a checkbox or a toggle/slider. Then after the discussion it would take them a week to actually decide what to use. And then when they finally do, it would take them a few more hours of discussion and few more weeks of iteration on which solid color they should use.
kek
I see how it is...

>>106135166
My preferred distros are Debian and Ubuntu. But go with what you want I guess. /fglt/ seems to like Arch in particular, and some people like Mint, and some recommend Bazzite, and other more obscure distros.

Bazzite is meant to be well set up for gaming so you could look into that. I've never used it myself.

>I really want to rice it
I would have thought this would be possible with any distro. Even with stock Ubuntu you can disable GNOME and install different DEs and window managers.

>>106135166
>what distro do you recommend?
>I had ubuntu before and have steamdeck
Use Bazzite. It's pretty much like SteamOS if it were a regular desktop OS. It's easy to rice since it's KDE Plasma, which is probably one of the most customizable DEs. And it's even more stable than Mint.
(Or use Aurora instead of Bazzite if you don't care about having Steam/Lutris on your desktop)

If you want to go balls deep into Linux tinkering then you can start with EndeavourOS or CachyOS. They're Arch-based, but they have nice installers and desktop environments are already set up for you. This way you can pretty much follow all Arch guides and documentation without issues.
But do keep in mind that Arch is a more involved OS instead of something you set up once and completely forget about. Even Endeavour and Cachy sometimes require manual intervention.

>>106134903
immutable means unchangeable lol

>>106135200
Is bazzite easy to add new software if needed,like arch Linux?
Didn't use any fedora before

>>106135303
Pretty much every Linux distro is "easy to add new software" to considering the Linux desktops are shifting to using flatpaks and lots of software is available as an appimage. So, 99% of your software is going to be universal.
For anything more advanced or "low level" you can still use the "traditional" way of installing stuff using rpm-ostree (You mentioned Ubuntu, "rpm-ostree" is somewhat equivalent to "apt").

https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/
https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/rpm-ostree/

When can we reasonably expect LMDE 7?
End of the year?
Early 2026?

>>106135384
They've generally released LDME around 3 months after the release of the Debian LTS they're basing it off. So, LMDE 7 will likely get here in November or early December.

no mpv thread so just dumping it here
built mpv using mpv-build on Fedora 42
why is my OSC text like this?

>>106135166
Arch is fine if you can read, but if you have AMD graphics then Fedora KDE is really easy to use.

>>106135173
Cosmic is in alpha state. Its usable but apparently it might have memory leaks.

>>106135516
Someone posted here the other day that their Bluetooth applet spams DBus and causes 100% CPU usage. Amateur hour over at System 76. I suppose it's great that it's written in Rust and the fastest Bluetooth applet on the planet though but they really ought to be setting some limits on what's possible to prevent run-away usage.

>>106135463
Why not just use the version from the repos, it should be pretty recent

>>106135357
rpm-ostree is BAD and last resort. (Eg I'm desperate to install this software and rpm-ostree is the only way.)
It's nothing like apt, it's even slower than snap and it does stuff you really don't want to do. Such as making changes to the immutableish filesystem.

>>106135766
You can use a container unless it's something that really has to be layered (e.g a driver or codec, etc)

>>106135773
>>106135766
Also, it doesn't touch the immutable filesystem, it layers over the top of it. That's one of the reasons why it is so slow because it has to re-compute all of these changes every time you update the system.

>>106135766
>rpm-ostree is BAD and last resort.
It's not bad at all. If anything it's utterly superior to apt because it keeps track of what changes you've made and in which order. And you can, at any point, undo any and all of your changes done through rpm-ostree. Good luck undoing shit with apt.
It's probably the best system update mechanism on Linux.
>making changes to the immutableish filesystem.
It doesn't do this.
>it's even slower than snap
Most people prefer stability and convenience over speed. Would you like your house to be built in a day if it constantly collapses and doesn't have all utilities? Or would you have it built in two days and have everything be perfect?
Either way, I'm not sure how slow or fast snaps are, but rpm-ostree is fast enough from my experience. I've never used it and thought "holy shit this is taking too long".

>>106135835
>Most people prefer stability and convenience over speed. Would you like your house to be built in a day if it constantly collapses and doesn't have all utilities? Or would you have it built in two days and have everything be perfect?
Even my Arch linux doesn't break that often, what's wrong with Fedora? I am not gonna believe normal Fedora that doesn't do immutable memes breaks that often!

>>106135529
Its a pretty ambitious project and it might offer a reasonable alternative once its completed but their choices dragged the development into a crawl
the rust lifetime soup must not be very fun to read with so many subprojects

>>106134766
I tried with gamescope, and disabling the compositor altogether with the Alt+Shift+F12 shortcut. If I disable vsync I get choppy cuts on top. But thanks anyway. I'll keep seaching for a solution.

>>106136013
Have you tried running with wayland?

I wanna switch from my Mac. What is the most anti semitic Linux and DE/WM combo?

>>106135858
It's a matter of significantly minimizing the number of times something breaks, no matter if it happens every few months (Arch) or every couple of years (Ubuntu). And it's also a matter of having easily reversible system changes.

Like it or not, immutable systems are objectively better. And there's a good chance they'll be the default in future.

>>106136039
No they are not objectively better, because a lot of configuration is on the immutable portion of the FS. /etc/ is full of shit I need to modify.

>>106136026
I can't close my session now, but will try when able.
Why Wayland tho? I feel it makes my cursor move slugish. Like on ice...

>>106136054
>/etc/ is full of shit I need to modify.
What exactly do you need to modify /etc/ for? Do you not think that there's a deeper underlying issue if the user is forced to fuck around with shit in /etc/?

>>106136101
You've obviously never configured software in your life before. There can be any number of reasons to modify files in /etc and there's no easy answer to this. NixOS and Guix have the right idea if you're willing to learn an entire domain specific configuration language but beyond that everything handles this poorly. Classical non-immutable distributions aren't much better, your custom changes will break on updates or you'll have to diff config files against changes upstream or the distribution made, etc. It's all bad.

>>106136096
Sounds like there is something pretty fucked with your setup if that's the case.

>>106136101
nginx drops its config in /etc/, so does php-fpm. Systemd configs are in /etc/... how do you fancontrol without access to the filesystem?

how can i achieve this?

>>106136136
Dedicate your second network adapter to the VM.

would going full intel (cpu & gpu) be a stupid idea? distro would likely be cachyos or debian/ubuntu

>>106136136
Use bridged networking for Qemu / libvirt and it'll get a real IP address on your LAN.

>>106136144
I think that works. From my understanding Intel has open source drivers so everything Intel is plug and play. Who knows if the performance is any good though.

>>106136144
Get a 9060 XT (16 GB) instead.

i've run into a couple computers where sysrescd won't boot from my usb drive (ssd in a usb enclosure), using ventoy. it works on all my machines, but i've now run into two different machines it won't boot on at all and i'm wondering if anyone might be aware of this. they boot other distros, like i resorted in both instances to booting a live endeavour image i have on it and just installing the packages i wanted to use during that session, but it's obviously not ideal

>>106136190
Maybe it's an issue with the Syslinux loader it uses. It's a bit outdated nowadays, most distros have long since switched to using Grub as their loader.

>>106136200
could be. i might just have to go back to what i did for a while. i had a small 8G raw disc image with an arch install with all the stuff i use sysrescd for, but stopped because i'm lazy and sysrescd did the job

>>106136140
>>106136149
i need the VM1 to be able to capture/filter all traffic from the VM2. the VM1 needs to take the internet connection form the host and then deliver it to the VM2 how bridged networking/dedicated network adapter gonna help?
I tired the internal network adapter in VirtualBox but the VM2 didn't get any internet access. also nested VM1 > VM2 works as intended but it's too slow

>>106136242
>i need the VM1 to be able to capture/filter all traffic from the VM2
You're doing it wrong. You should capture on the bridge interface of the host. If you really need this though then tcpdump can be used over SSH.

>>106136252
>>106136242
I think Linux may also be able to do some sort of interface mirroring where it mirrors traffic to another interface somehow that the VM can see but I'm not to sure.

>>106136124
>>106136127
>NixOS
Ah yes, the unique specialist distro made for tinkerers which does it's own thing and is unusable to 99.9% of the population. Great argument.
>You've obviously never configured software in your life before
There is never any real reason a usable operating system would have you configure shit in /etc.
Of course I've fucked around with /etc in some edge cases on minimalist distros designed for servers/sysadmins/tinkerers in the cases when I'm running architecturally outdated software, or if I'm doing some hacky workaround. But in recent times I can't really say I've ever needed to do this. A good OS would expose you with anything you need either through the GUI or a CLI utility.

>>106129778 (OP)

how tf do i fix Gnome's DE text disappearing? I get this bug whenever my ubuntu laptop goes to sleep due to inactivity or whatever, also i nuked my win11 partition but i'd like to have it back, i should use woeUSB from what i've since since window's boot manager gives errors when trying to install the iso from Ventoy, any idea where to look into? Because WoeUSB is not working for shit, i dont know what im doing wrong but it wont install at all :/

>>106136319
>in the cases when I'm running architecturally outdated software, or if I'm doing some hacky workaround. But in recent times I can't really say I've ever needed to do this. A good OS would expose you with anything you need either through the GUI or a CLI utility.
And how should this good OS persist its settings and how should it magically know every use-case you intend to use it for without you configuring it explicitly for that?

In the general case it should be well designed but there is no way the OS can know every possible use-case you want to use it for, even something like configuring a firewall potentially involves editing files in /etc.

>>106135186
>>106135200
>>106135503
this is my pc, anything i should know like do certain distros not like amd

>>106136242
Not sure what your use case is, but couldn't you just put VM2 on a separate virtual network and route it's traffic through a "Router" VM1, which has access to both VM2's network and your home network and would perform NAT.

VM1 is the gateway in VM2's virtual L2 network and it has your home network on it's WAN side.

Why Plasma 6 is such a memory hog? It easily uses 1.5 GB of RAM at idle, when even Gnome 48 can be contained around 800 MB (and Plasma 5 was able to go even below that).

>>106132194
Why do people treat it like a game you have to git gud at? Don't they have a life? I need to install an OS with minimum fuckery, then have it work 100 percent of the time with no worries so I can do other things in my life.

>>106136672
Skill issue:
$ sudo python ps_mem.py
# (output trimmed to last 40 lines so I can post it here)
1.7 MiB + 423.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB pipewire-pulse
796.0 KiB + 1.5 MiB = 2.3 MiB sudo (2)
2.0 MiB + 380.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB login
2.1 MiB + 285.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB obexd
3.0 MiB + 274.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB polkitd
2.7 MiB + 818.5 KiB = 3.5 MiB xdg-desktop-portal
3.1 MiB + 464.5 KiB = 3.6 MiB dbus-daemon (3)
4.1 MiB + 58.5 KiB = 4.1 MiB iwd
4.8 MiB + 157.5 KiB = 4.9 MiB systemd-udevd
4.9 MiB + 497.5 KiB = 5.4 MiB udisksd
5.3 MiB + 506.5 KiB = 5.8 MiB ModemManager
5.4 MiB + 1.0 MiB = 6.4 MiB pipewire
5.7 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 7.5 MiB kwin_wayland_wrapper
6.2 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 7.6 MiB NetworkManager
6.5 MiB + 1.9 MiB = 8.4 MiB zsh (2)
7.6 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 8.8 MiB wireplumber
8.6 MiB + 2.9 MiB = 11.6 MiB startplasma-wayland
8.7 MiB + 3.0 MiB = 11.8 MiB plasma_session
11.1 MiB + 2.5 MiB = 13.6 MiB xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
10.8 MiB + 3.8 MiB = 14.7 MiB xembedsniproxy
10.9 MiB + 3.8 MiB = 14.7 MiB gmenudbusmenuproxy
11.0 MiB + 4.0 MiB = 15.0 MiB kaccess
11.0 MiB + 4.0 MiB = 15.0 MiB ksmserver
11.3 MiB + 4.0 MiB = 15.4 MiB polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
12.2 MiB + 3.8 MiB = 16.0 MiB xdg-desktop-portal-kde
12.0 MiB + 4.1 MiB = 16.1 MiB ksecretd
11.9 MiB + 4.4 MiB = 16.3 MiB kactivitymanagerd
13.8 MiB + 4.7 MiB = 18.5 MiB org_kde_powerdevil
14.9 MiB + 6.3 MiB = 21.2 MiB xwaylandvideobridge
18.8 MiB + 6.3 MiB = 25.1 MiB kdeconnectd
25.0 MiB + 3.9 MiB = 28.9 MiB Xwayland
30.3 MiB + 6.8 MiB = 37.1 MiB DiscoverNotifier
30.3 MiB + 11.1 MiB = 41.4 MiB kded6
34.4 MiB + 15.5 MiB = 50.0 MiB konsole
94.7 MiB + 25.3 MiB = 119.9 MiB kwin_wayland
244.6 MiB + 26.4 MiB = 271.0 MiB plasmashell
---------------------------------
866.9 MiB
=================================

>>106136838
All machines should have at least 8 GB of RAM by now though. If you're still clinging to a system with less RAM then either chuck it or upgrade its RAM.

This is RAM usage on this piece of shit laptop with Chromium open. It's not even that bad:
$ (free -h;swapon --show)
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 7.7Gi 1.6Gi 2.2Gi 236Mi 4.4Gi 6.1Gi
Swap: 3.8Gi 0B 3.8Gi
NAME TYPE SIZE USED PRIO
/dev/zram0 partition 3.8G 0B 16383

>>106135033
Linux namespaces have virtually no overhead. It's like crying over one less jellybean

>>106137007
Especially in the context of CPU bound applications, I'm really not sure what he's getting at. If he'd have said memory bound then that'd make more sense because there is a non-zero cost to loading up multiple copies of the same libraries and different runtimes but in the real-world it's irrelevant.

>>106136672
you could daily drive kde 3.5 on a machine with 128mb of ram, but kde 4 needed 512mb minimum

>>106136838
Based fellow old shit laptop user

>>106136838
is that chipset/iGPU fully compatible with Wayland? holy fuck

>>106136394
I think AMD drivers are already in the Linux kernel because those drivers are open source (with Nvidia their drivers are proprietary so I think you have to install them after you've installed your distro).

Hopefully things should just work. Just pick a distro you like and try it out. You can try a live session from a USB stick with many distros. I think Ubuntu is good for beginners, some people like Mint, some people like Fedora. Bazzite is gaining popularity with gamers. Pick what you like.

>>106136394
AMD graphics are recommended for linux, it'll provide the most seamless experience. for cpus it doesn't matter

>>106136394
The question is usually the other way around, "Does AMD like Linux?"
You will have no problem running Linux, guaranteed you'll have a nice experience.
Suggestion: Go with Linux Mint

>>106137242
As well as it can be, yes. Intel legacy support is still really good despite the crap hardware. The Crocus driver supports a lot.

>>106136838
Jesus, imagine rebuilding the world on this piece of crap.

>>106137379
That's what the chroot is for although with binary packages I can upgrade @world without much of a fuss nowadays, if it doesn't have a binary on my desktop or the Gentoo binhost then it'll build on the shittop which is usually not an issue unless it hits something like Chromium in which I case I nope the fuck out.

>>106136887
>All machines should have at least 8 GB of RAM by now though.
4 GB is still somewhat usable. But below is literally a nightmare.

>>106137413
Usable till you open a web browser and one other application at least. I upgraded the RAM in this laptop from 4 GB to 8 GB and also put an SSD in it and the difference is night and day.

If you really have to torture yourself then you can use 4 GB of RAM though.

>>106137413
8GB is also unusable for normal use cases. Like I was able to use 2.8GB of RAM on my old computer to browse the web and shit using Debian with LXQt, but when I tried to use a computer with 8GB of RAM normally with KDE then I had an awful time. It ran out of RAM when I played Starsector with mods.

>>106136394
The only thing you have to know with AMD is the fact that it doesn't support HDMI 2.1. If you're using a 4k screen at anything over 90Hz, or if you're using a 1440p/1600p screen at anything above 120Hz, it's just not going to work at all or you'll have constant flickers or artifacts.
AMD was legally blocked from making an open source HDMI 2.1 module by the HDMI forum (which is just composed of the boomer film industry corpos), since HDMI is itself a closed and proprietary standard. So, you'll have to use DisplayPort or USB-C in this case.

>>106136672
I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of pre-caching. Both KDE and GNOME will try to take a few hundred extra MBs of RAM if they see that you have over 4GB of memory.
Q4OS has a KDE Plasma edition and it's advertised to work on devices with 1GB RAM. So, you can probably just disable a bunch of visual effects and animations as well as some background features to reduce your idle KDE Plasma RAM consumption under 1GB.

>>106137413
The problem with 4GB is the fact that you can't multitask at all, and/or you have to use minimalist software, and/or you have to configure your software by disabling features before even using anything. Also, web browsers tend to take up 1-2.5GB themselves depending on how many tabs you have open. It's just annoying as fuck.
You can get an 8GB computer for under $150, which should be a decent enough budget even for the unemployed.

>>106137461
It's fine for anything but gaming. If you're playing games then yeah, you're not going to have a fun time. I would probably struggle to even play Supetux Kart on this thing.

I just want to use Bazzite and have my desktop hooked up to my oled TV full time but nvidia still sucks (but is slowly getting better) on linux

>>106137430
>Usable till you open a web browser and one other application at least. I upgraded the RAM in this laptop from 4 GB to 8 GB and also put an SSD in it and the difference is night and day.
Still usable though. I upgraded mine from 4 to 8 GB too, and the only difference it made is that Firefox stopped crashing while opening 15+ tabs, which is very nice, but not exactly crucial. Also, with Linux it's not so important to have an SSD: sure, faster boot time is good, but as far as daily use goes it is not so bad even on HDD (much better than modern Windows experience). So while I agree with the notion "upgrade if you can" in general, I'd still say that the hardware can be used even without it.

>>106137413
>>106137430
Get on my level, relatively recently I was using a Raspberry Pi 3 with 1 gig of RAM, with the default DE (LXDE with modifications). With zram enabled, I could open a few tabs in a web browser. Not too many though.

>>106137571
I'd hate to use that. A Raspberry Pi 5 is probably really usable as a little desktop nowadays though (if you can even buy one and it's not priced stupidly) now that they have proper power management for the GPU and semi-decent Vulkan support.

>>106137599
>>106137571
>>106137517
>>106137471
>>106137461
>>106137430
>>106137413
I blame lazy webdevs and motherfucking js slop. If major sites still operated using simple HTML1 and JS like the old days we could still be able to browse it comfortably using old tech. Heck I remember opening 30 tabs on my 1GB shitty box and the browser consuming a little more than 300MB of mem

>>106137483
You can still game on 8GB, but it would have to be light/retro gaming. I played a bunch of 1999-2012 games (and even some modern lightweight games) on an old dual core 8GB laptop with Xubuntu on it. Even with the overhead of Bottles+WINE everything was fine.

>>106137499
The problem with nVidia is the fact that they stopped giving a shit about desktops and gaming a long time ago. Their main focus and money maker is AI and servers, followed by corporate deals related to consoles and similar devices.
And when they focus on desktops, they're primarily targeting Windows because that's where 98% of their customers are. Desktop Linux is literally 1% of 1% for them.
You could say the same is true for AMD, but they're a much smaller company so diversification and optics are a lot more important for them.

>>106137628
This. I still do the same stuff on my computer I did 15 years ago but now everything needs 4 times more ram and cpu

>>106137628
i remember playing a game with a few websites and winamp open in the background with 128M of ram lol

>>106134439
>ubuntu
found your problem

>>106137635
>I played a bunch of 1999-2012 games
Most of those games were perfectly fine with 4 GB of RAM. Moreso, 99.9% of them couldn't use more than 3 GB in the first place. And with ~800 MB of DE memory usage (which even trimmed down Gnome and KDE are capable of) it is quite similar to Windows Vista/7 64-bit performance. So as long as you have Vulkan-capable GPU in order to run DXVK you can still play a proverbial Crysis on Core 2 Duo + 4 GB of DDR2 + 15 years old 500 GB HDD just as you could back in 2007.

>>106137628
>muh lazy webdevs
First of all, it's usually not web devs that make decisions regarding what content a website should have. Product managers are often forcing there to be several tracking scripts (which causes CPU overhead) and along with designers they're often demanding a minimum asset quality (ie images will often consume 500Kb-4MB each instead of being compressed or shrunk).
And second, it's not web devs that are making the web browsers bloated themselves. A simple "hello world" electron app is going to consume 100-150MB RAM. No matter how a website is built, your browser will consume a set amount of minimum RAM for a single tab. I mean, fuck, if you open a completely blank page with a modern web browser it will consume 500MB-800MB of RAM.

There are cases where webdevs are lazy fucks, but this usually doesn't impact memory consumption by a relevant amount. It usually just impacts rendering or compute speed, or the load times in case of badly constructed API calls. But none of these common issues have anything to do with memory.

>>106137132
Windows NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a used at idle 32 MB, Win 2000 SP4 — around ~128 and Win XP SP2 — a bit more than 256.

>>106134975
>the little disk overhead it has is a worthy sacrifice for usability
As though 5x the filesizes is a little?

I'm tempted to try and switch to Gentoo.

>>106137697
that's true, most games before then for windows were 32bit, which had an effective 3GB cap due to how windows segments user/kernel memory

>>106137782
the way i remember it, windows 2000 used about 65M fresh install, while xp was 75-110M depending on service pack
i have never seen a windows xp install using over 200M after install. and i installed xp a LOT

>>106137782
>>106137900
>windows 2000 used about 65M fresh install
True, even less as I recall last time I used it on real hardware with 128MB it ran pretty nice

Is having UPNP on a security risk? Even if some games use obscure (I think) ports, let's say Fightcade. Should I just manually forward those ports instead?

>>106137811
>instead of taking up 200Kb, my app takes 1MB
>unacceptable!
Anon, 90% of an average person's disk space is often just taken up by their videos/photos, video games and pirated movies/shows. I'm on my shitty laptop right now, using Bazzite with all the Steam bloat and only using flatpaks (50 apps) and a couple of appimages. All that is just taking up 80GB of space, while my downloads directory is 300GB.
So, yes, the difference in disk space used by flatpaks/appimages is completely irrelevant unless you're on a very, very constrained device.

>>106129778 (OP)
I suppose this is a good place to ask about it.
Anyone has experience with CachyOS? Sounds neat on paper but I don't want to waste time on installing crappy OS.

From all the "gamurrr" distros I saw this one provides the largest amount of options.

>>106137994
UPNP itself is not a security risk, bad implementations of UPNP (on routers) are a security risk. It's a fucking mess, some routers have exposed their UPNP configuration to the Internet before so literally anyone, anywhere could forward ports to your machine.
It's best to manually forward ports instead if you care and turn off / disable UPNP entirely.

mpv refuses to share the audio when screen sharing on discord. VLC works fine, but are there any other decent alternatives for a media player?

>>106138020
80GB? /just/ 80G?
my root is a fraction of that and that's with ginormous ai-related packages included

>>106138097
not mpv's fault instead more of a config issue, likely mpv is not using the correct audio output for discord to grab, might want to switch to pipewire or pulseaudio

>>106138043
It's Arch with a bunch of kernel patches basically. It's rising in popularity for being an easy to install Arch that's purpose built for desktop use by default.

>>106134851
You can still (for the time being) disable bitlocker and have it decrypt the whole drive. I didn't know about bitlocker either until I tried installing mint and didn't want to switch wholesale until I had everything moved over, and then I find out my entire disk was encrypted by default with no opt-out during install that I'm aware of, and I can't get in without logging into my Microsoft account on another device. Seriously, this shit is half a step away from being ransomware. How do they get away with it?

>>106129778 (OP)
I have latest Ubuntu.
When I boot I'm stuck in some sort of a low res mode (can't change resolution) and I have no networking.
I assume this is some sort of a recovery mode? How do I exit it?

>>106138043
It's not a gaming distro. It just has a 1%-3% faster performance due to some kernel optimizations.
I wouldn't say it's bad, but at the end of the day it's still an Arch distro so it's made for slightly more advanced users and it's not meant to be a "set it and forget it" distro like actual "gaming" distros.

>>106137900
>>106137945
Fully updated Win2k with all the updates all the way to 2010 would use around 120 MB of RAM. Fresh install of SP4 w/o updates would use just slightly more than 50.

>>106134873
Gotta updoot, arch sisters!!

I found out my PC woke up from sleep overnight. Any commands/logs to see why this would have happened?

>>106138254
Probably some USB device or RTC wake or Wake on LAN, etc. Computers don't just "wake up from sleep".

>>106138237
I wonder if there are distros capable of such RAM usage. I think even modern FreeBSD/NetBDS without X11 and on generic kernel are more than 200 MB.

>>106136101
how are you supposed to mount hard drives and shit without access to fstab? do you have to reinstall an immutable distro every time you get a new hard drive or want to use an external?

>>106138269
Possibly. Though I speak from experience from when I used windows, since you need to disable "critical" functions from waking your computer.

>>106138044
Bad implementation = on by default? Because mine was on before I turned it off. Or am I getting it wrong?

>>106134873
>>106138238
6.16 is in testing now so you could just pacman -U the .pkg.tar.zst file. Not sure what's taking them so long to stabilise it.
https://archlinux.org/packages/core-testing/x86_64/linux/

>>106135835
>
It's not bad at all. If anything it's utterly superior to apt because it keeps track of what changes you've made and in which order. And you can, at any point, undo any and all of your changes done through rpm-ostree. Good luck undoing shit with apt.
Apt can do the exact same thing you drooling retard

>>106138316
Bad implementation = has security flaws:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/06/upnp-flaw-exposes-millions-of-network-devices-to-attacks-over-the-internet/
https://www.cve.org/CVERecord/SearchResults?query=miniupnp

UPNP is just a protocol and that protocol itself is safe and secure but the implementation on routers (e.g miniupnpd, etc) may have bugs. Some of them can cause DDOS attacks or put your computer at risk, etc. That's why most security professionals recommend disabling UPNP. It's not that it's unsafe, it's that the implementations are often buggy/broken, etc, and might have flaws we don't even know about yet.
Manual port forwarding is always better, besides without UPNP a random application can't just poke a hole in your firewall.

>>106132271
>Discover doesn't even work properly on it
Discover doesn't even work properly period; it's slow, janky and unintuitive. Which brings the question: why is that we still don't have a decent GUI software center in Linux? Like every one of them is crappy in some way, and it's not like nobody really tried for the past 20 years.

>>106138457
Seems reasonable. Thanks for the insight. Upon learning about it a couple months back I immediately thought it was quite spooky.

>>106138115
>made me look
That 80GB includes my other directories which contain some images, videos, git repos, Waydroid, Steam, and my 21GB worth of games in Bottles. I just subtracted my 380GB of total used storage with my 300GB Downloads directory to prove the point that non-system and non-app data is what consumes most people's space and it's not even close.
The actual storage used by my OS, apps, and app data/cache is closer to 40GB, if you ignore all the above mentioned shit. I don't even use some of my flatpaks/appimages and I could probably save another 2GB by removing those too.

It doesn't change my point that any device which has at least 200GB of storage (so, any PC/laptop sold in the past 10 years) can handle exclusively using appimages/flatpaks without an issue. Unless you're a hoarder, you will realistically never feel storage constrained. And if you are a hoarder, you're probably getting external storage anyway.

>>106138411
>Apt can do the exact same thing
>thinking "sudo apt remove" is the same thing as removing an rpm-ostree layer
This is like saying manually deleting a file is the same thing as having a git repository and doing a git revert/reset. Holy shit anon, think before you post.

I have an Asus Vivobook with a Ryzen 5 4600H, and on any Linux distro I install, the screen colors look washed out and have a bluish tint. I've already tried multiple ways to calibrate the colors, but nothing works and the issue persists. Does anyone know of a permanent fix for this?

>>106138668
If you're using KDE they have a display calibration in their settings. Unless you have access to a professionally calibrated ICC profile I doubt you can get much better than that.

what's the current state of wm on linux? still have to choose between simple-but-no-eyecandy and bloated-just-werkz-but-corpo-controlled ?

>>106138744
virt-manager is best

>>106138744
Use Hyprland if you're a drooling retard that wants non-corpo controlled bling.

>>106136672
Just take the WM pill. The whole os loads into like 500mb.
>>106138744
Theyre WMs anon. I don't know what you're expecting out of them.

Cachy or Endeavor? I don't want a pure arch. I like limine snapshots on Cachy but I can do it on Endeavor too, and get cachy repos.

>>106138825
I am! But I also don't feel like configuring it

>>106138212
Could be a driver issue maybe. What's the hardware?

>>106138950
Well Endeavour is closer to pure Arch while Cachy is more tweaked.

>>106138950
I don't like to deviate too far off the vanilla version so I wouldn't install catchy, but that might be just me.

>>106138744
Are you talking about DEs or just using raw wms? Hyprland is the "new and shiny" wm which apparently works fine.

>>106136838
what is that python script and what does it measure?

>>106139267
https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem

>>106139337
cool, sounds exactly like I hoped it would work.

>>106138043
I had pretty bad experience with it, was not working correctly on my system graphical artifacts appeared - but I did use fairly old hardware to run it. I also don't like the defaults they've chosen, but other than that it's ok. I don't think it's anything special nor that it does something Arch doesn't. I mean you can just add the repos to Arch.

i have arch installed with rEFInd, how would i install ubuntu alongside it? from what i read i create new partitions for swap, root and home and skip the boot partition and then select them in ubuntus installer in the manual mode?

>rent linux for dummies from the library
>save an old laptop's performance with linux mint
>decide to convert the desktop too
>intel B580 GPU
>Nobara, hard system crashes
>Bazzite, artifacting in some games, others crashing
Pop OS, similar issues
>reconfiguring all these configured distros is confusing and hard
>endeavourOS, mesa drivers from last week, everything works
I haven't tried cachyOS but everything just works so far on endeavour

>>106139964
Interesting. I wonder how well Manjaro would run given that it's also Arch. I know /fglt/ doesn't love Manjaro though.

>>106140066
A common issue I was having was old, stable mesa drivers and once I was able to get the more recent drivers and set things up fresh a lot of crashing and artifacting went away

This is probably less of an issue with AMD or Nvidia GPUs

>>106138286
Raspbian and OpenWRT come to mind. People trying to subsist on <8GB e-waste aren't a target market for anyone. It's not actually hard to fit a kernel and GUI into <200MB, there just aren't many use cases. Modern PC hardware drivers waste 200MB like it's nothing because they know how cheap RAM is.

>>106140066
>I know /fglt/ doesn't love Manjaro though.
It used to introduce problems and shat itself more often than arch if i recall correctly. That was a few years ago and I dunno if things have changed since then.

>>106140180
Same issue with AMD, new hardware requires new drivers/mesa stack. Nvidia with its propietary shit has a special role, but dunno how easy it is to install the propietary drivers on different distros.

My Debian network interface names keep changing when I reboot. How do I stop it? Some are like ethX and some are like ensX, both types seem to change.

>>106140398
# /etc/systemd/network/99-anime.link
[Match]
Kind=!*
Type=ether
[Link]
NamePolicy=mac
MACAddressPolicy=persistent

Gets you MAC-based (NamePolicy=mac) names for every physical (has no "kind") Ethernet (ether) device.

>>106140066
Manjaro is not Arch, it has its own repos from what I understand. If you want baby Arch, you want to look at EndeavourOS. That pulls straight from Arch repos.

>>106140952
>Manjaro is not Arch
No shit, that's why it has a different name.

>>106140770
Thanks, anon

>>106141055
>>106140398
>has multiple interfaces
>in a meaningful way
A (Wi-Fi) router that bridges together every interface except the Internet-facing one? One idea is to bridge everything together by default and exclude the specifically named internet-facing interface, that's what I'm doing.
[Match]
Kind=!*
Type=ether
Name=!internet
[Network]
LinkLocalAddressing=false
Bridge=bridge0
[Link]
MTUBytes=9194

There's an interface named "internet" and bridge named "bridge0" and everything else is like whatever, gets grabbed regardless the naming scheme.

>>106129778 (OP)
What do I do if I'm too stupid to use linux properly? I run Manjaro and use the terminal to install AUR packages and do system upgrades and stuff but things are constantly breaking on my machine and often I need to rely on AI to tell me what commands to type in to the terminal. Is there any more user friendly alternatives that aren't Ubuntu?

>>106141175
>Manjaro
>things are constantly breaking
That's the Manjaro experience, anon.
>Is there any more user friendly alternatives that aren't Ubuntu?
Sure:
https://bazzite.gg/
https://getaurora.dev/en

>>106141175
Fedora KDE is very user friendly. Assuming you have AMD hardware OR a brand new nvidia card that works with the latest open kernel modules.

>>106141175
>What do I do if I'm too stupid to use linux properly?
Same thing you do when you can't use windows properly - you still do it.

love my looniks anon

>>106141175
I think Ubuntu is good for beginners. Mint is good for beginners too.

>>106142290
Eh, you're kinda wrong. Ubuntu is definitely not for your average person or a beginner. It's mainly for people who already have some Linux experience or technical know-how.

>>106142346
bro, Ubuntu's motto is "Linux for human beings" instead of your regluar "Linux for autistic beings"

>>106142346
>It's mainly for people who already have some Linux experience or technical know-how.
Is it? How?
I am borderline retarded and I am using it just fine.

>>106142346
Ubuntu's installer is easy to use and it has a GUI program for managing updates, which pops up when you need to update. You can probably use Ubuntu without ever touching the terminal if you want.
>average person
Average people won't be installing Linux in the first place. But if someone wants to try out Linux then I think Ubuntu is a decent place to start. Mint is another option if someone prefers that.

how can i improve my ricing? should i switch to one of those fancy gpu based terminals?

>>106142500
It's not unusable, but they completely abandoned the desktop over half a decade ago and haven't improved anything nor made it easier to use. Their main focus are servers and devs, so technical people only.
I mean, the main reason why Mint still exists (and is becoming more popular than Ubuntu among non-technical users) is because it's "Ubuntu, but easier to use".
It's sad to say, but you're already a "non-retarded user" if you've managed to find /fglt/. Consider that 50% of people on the planet are even more retarded than you are. Most of them would get filtered by Ubuntu compared to some of the easier distros.

And I speak from experience. Multiple (dumb) people I know got filtered by Ubuntu (and even Mint), but then gave Bazzite and Nobara a try and said "holy shit this is actually better than Windows, I'm staying on this.". That speaks a lot.
Not to mention that, as someone who has used Ubuntu (and several of it's flavors) both on a personal computer and on a work computer, I've experienced how good/bad it actually was in the past 10 years. That's why I'm saying that, compared to something like Bazzite or even something more locked down like SteamOS, Ubuntu is only easy if you've got at least some experience with Linux and some PC troubleshooting skills. I still find it somewhat easier to use than Windows, but it has so many things it can do to improve.

>>106142558
>Average people won't be installing Linux in the first place.
>But if someone wants to try out Linux then I think Ubuntu is a decent place to start.
That's exactly my point. More average users (that are willing to install an OS) would try out Linux and even stick with it if their first experience wasn't Ubuntu.
Fuck, people might even buy more systems with Linux pre-installed if Ubuntu wasn't on 90% of those devices.

The one day I decided install fedora silverblue, that day fedora gets a ddos attack and i can't updoot the system.

Should I install all of these?
(Some tutorials online says "sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld" is enough)

>>106142866
Based Fedora team stopping a chronic updooter. Consider this an intervention.

>>106142913
I just installed the OS, I have to update, the package base is 4 months old.

>>106142890
I did it because i didnt want to deal with some hidden dependency issue but ultimately its your call. Didnt grab anything from the dvd section and below though

>>106142949
That's ok anon. I haven't updated my atomic distro in 3 months now. You're not missing out.

>>106130129
It is beginner friendly, but I wouldn't recommend it if you want a friendly arch distro. I think other anons recommended EndeavourOS, and I would say the same. When I used to run Manjaro, they would keep forgetting to update their GPG keys, so every-time you went to do an update it would invariably break something.

>>106142977
Thank you
I think I'll do the same
Do you (or anyone else reading this) know why there are so many different recommendations when it comes to multimedia codecs in Fedora?
All the tutorials I've found were uploaded at around the same point in time, so I'd assume that they all would follow the current official method.

Also, are installing these a security risk?
More installed things = larger attack vector, basically.

>>106143106
rpm fusion is completely unaffiliated to fedora wink wink, they go through the same verification process as their regular packages. The risk is the same as installing from their base repo. It probably exists because of legal reasons
>recommendations
I've got no clue, I prefer to read the docs. If they dont state why they've diverged from the wiki, in this case, then they're pretty worthless.

>>106143106
>More installed things = larger attack vector, basically.
In theory yes. In reality, you need at least some "bloat" to have a usable OS.
>Also, are installing these a security risk?
Not really.

I was about to install vesktop because of some posts claiming some serious issues with the official discord but then I realized they were 4 year old posts. Is it still recommended to use vesktop instead of discord?

>>106129778 (OP)
The last time I commented I was banned. Kindly, go fuck yourself my frens.

>>106143702
What did you post

>>106143854
>>106143854
It was a minor thing. Goddamn jannies. I'm not welcome here, good luck.

I'm trying to build librepods on my pop os 22.04 machine, but I need qt version 6.4 when i'm on 6.2.4
what do i do

>>106138286
openwrt, tinycore, alpine, gentoo

>>106144663

>>106143702
What did you post, lad?

>>106142290
>>106141175
A lot of people don't know what the AUR is and get memed into using it. Just forget about it, on Manjaro especially because you're liable to get dependency hell with Manjaro repos. If you're not using the AUR, then I think most Arch-based distros, and most Linux distros in general for that matter, are very user-friendly. The concept of a "beginner distro" is very outdated imo because the convenience of Linux is just incredible these days.

>>106130917
>Make sure Timeshift isn't configured to put its snapshots somewhere retarded, a lot of people "run out of disk space" on the boot partition or on the / partition if they made a separate one.
>Check the pins in the beginner section of the Mint forum and make sure you aren't a retard about how Linux works. If you are then hit up a search engine
>If you look around a bit you can find a whole blog of tips by one of the regulars there

>>106141175
>things are constantly breaking on my machine
That's probably the packages rather than (You)
> often I need to rely on AI to tell me what commands to type in to the terminal
A distro can't help with that. You need to get used to reading man pages and thinking about what you're doing and what it all means. Do it from the ground up, try to make some aliases for things you do often, then look up a Bash tutorial or something.
>Is there any more user friendly alternatives that aren't Ubuntu?
Depends on why you don't want Ubuntu.

>>106143617
Just use the web interface unless you actually care about voice/video chat in which case why are you /here/

>>106141153
Why do you use MTUBytes=9194?
Is that for jumbo frames in your LAN? It's better to stick to 1500 MTU. With working PMTU it doesn't matter (although it never does work properly over the Internet in my testing when I was fucking with this) but without that you'll get black holes or the router will have to fragment packets (expensive for IPv4, IPv6 doesn't do this though because they learned from IPv4 that this is a bad idea).

>>106135542
repo version is gutted from many libs/decoders
it also looks like that btw
and it's not like building mpv is rocket science, thanks to mpv-build

>>106138097
so instead of going to mpv.io, reading the reference and trying the other audio outputs you instead replace your entire media player for fucking VLC?
Are you really sure you really want to be using a linux distro?
anyway, you WANT pipeware (or pulse) ao (audio output) in mpv conf if you want discord to be able to grab it

>>106138744
minimal GNOME isn't even that bad nowadays
devs are still retarded (still arguing about systray and scroll speed) but at least it is usable nowadays

>>106146057
Why not the Flatpak if codecs are the main motivation?
They don't suffer from any of the brain dead retardation that seeps into corpo-American distros like Fedora.

>>106146122
>original post explicitly mentions building mpv using mpv-build
>why not the repo
>why not the flatpak
Why are zoomies so scared of building their packages?

installed arch on my old chromebook
troubleshooted a bunch
can post on /g/

yeah... we made it

>>106146150
How'd you even get Arch to install on an old chromebook? I'm guessing it's Intel based then.

>>106146158
It was an Acer C720 so that's right.

Was just the arch iso through USB and maybe mrchromebox from back when this had GalliumOS.

>>106146142
You could build the Flatpak yourself with flatpak-builder if you wanted. It'll work, it'll have codecs and it won't have fucking broken fonts.

How do I get access to my Wine files through Bottles so I can copy and paste files into Wine's C:drive?
On the few times I've somehow managed to access the Wine C:drive I can't seem to edit or extract any files to it.
Basically stuck on step 5. of this guide to getting Affinity Photo 2 to work through bottles:
https://github.com/Twig6943/AffinityOnLinux/blob/main/Guides/Bottles/Guide.md

>>106146395
i've always been lazy and just dropped things into the bottle directly ie
>open thunar or any file explorer
>go to ~/.var/app/com.usebottles.bottles/data/bottles/bottles/[BOTTLE_NAME]/drive_c, or something along those lines
>paste shit
I havent used bottles on this pc yet so i cant tell if thats the correct path but you get the idea

>>106146395
It should be in ~/.var/app/com.usebottles.bottles/data/bottles/bottles

>>106130129
Sure why not. It's not like *using* Arch is hard or anything, in the end it's a typical binary distro.
You could use Arch as a base for setting up a perfectly newbie friendly setup and have a newbie use it no problem. (OK maybe until something goes wrong in an update (though that only happens in like once in a decade))
>>106130961
The most autistic thread. Any kind of chit chatting or guessing is the most haram thing ever.

>>106146525
>>106146528
Thanks guys I'll give this a go at a later date. Apologies in advance if I forget and have to ask again.

Did LfN have its own repositories or did it just draw from the Ubuntu repos?

>>106146395
Your C drive is here:
/home/{your-user-name}/.var/app/com.usebottles.bottles/data/bottles/bottles/{your-wine-bottle-aka-prefix-name}/drive_c/


I recommend just pinning "/home/{your-user-name}/.var/app/com.usebottles.bottles/data/bottles/bottles/" to your file manager's sidebar so you can quickly access it whenever you need it, since it's awkwardly 5 directories deep so it's annoying to navigate to.

.var is a hidden directory inside your home directory where flatpaks store their data. You can show hidden dirs with Ctrl+H in most file managers.

>>106146142
>wasting time building something when someone else has already done it for you

>>106136127
I managed to fix it with a utility named corectrl. I think fedora (or the linux kernel, who knows) doesn't know how to properly manage the GPU load... After tweaking it, not only got smoother, but also at a pretty low load. From 70% to less than 40%

>>106146142
What do you get out of building it yourself instead of just running a readily available executable?

i keep on seeing “workqueue:output_poll_execute hogged CPU for 10000us 128times,consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND” when I shutdown my linux mint cinnamon tf can I do to fix this

I have this weird issue.
When I disconnect my monitor, keyboard and mouse doesn't work.
>Arch with KDE.
I did test with other DE and distro and it's the same, even of different hardware
I searched but didn't find anything related to this.
Is this normal behavior?

I'm a noob that has been using linux only since march. I've been using Mint then moved to Arch KDE after 2 months. I'm only using it to game and browse internet.
I'm also obsessed with minimalism. When I found about ly greeter I jizzed buckets. Any recommendation for minimal DE, File Manager (I'm eyeing nnn), etc.
?

>>106148000
It doesn't sound normal, but running a DE without a monitor isn't a normal use case either so who knows. X11 vs Wayland would probably be the thing that makes a difference to this if anything.

>>106148000
Typing while your screen is off does NOT work on Wayland. You're on KDE, so you need to install it's X11 session if you need this feature.
Do the equivalent of "rpm-ostree install plasma-workspace-x11" on your distro to install it.

>>106148534
Minimal DEs that would still be considered "usable" by most people are Xfce, Trinity, LXDE/LXQt, and also Openbox and Enlightenment to some extent. I think all or most of these work on computers with 256MB-512MB of RAM, so they're quite minimal. I can vouch for Xfce and Trinity being pretty decent considering how many resources they use. LXDE/LXQt feel like shittier Xfce to me. And I've only used Openbox briefly a couple of years ago, and it's fine from my experience.
Other than those you can look into tiling window managers. dwm is said to be the most minimal. Sway is also apparently light, while Hyprland is currently the most popular one. I personally consider these a pointless meme, but Hyprland (and I think Sway) at least support floating windows in addition to tiling them.

smartctl says
Available Spare: 100%
Available Spare Threshold: 5%
Percentage Used: 100%

Do I need to buy a news ssd?

>>106148605
>running a DE without a monitor isn't a normal use case either
Yeah.
I'm not doing that obviously but I noticed it during a power out.
UPS is only connected to PC and not monitor, and was watching something with mpv.
When the power went out I could still hear the audio through the headphone but pausing the video via keyboard shortcut didn't work, even the pressing power action to put the machine into sleep didn't work either.
Until the power came back and the monitor was powered on, everything worked as it supposed to.
It's on wayland.
>>106148691
>Typing while your screen is off does NOT work on Wayland
That's not just typing, even mouse buttons and case switches don't work.
>X11 session if you need this feature
So you're suggesting I switch to xorg?

I've never installed anything from source on linux (steam deck), where do I start?
https://github.com/psieg/Lightpack/releases

>>106148884
You don't need to, use the Flatpak.

>>106148895
it doesn't work, the install hung for half an hour then clicking launch did nothing.

Alright, I'll bake.

>>106149120
>>106149120
>>106149120
New thread

>>106148797
>That's not just typing, even mouse buttons and case switches don't work.
Case switches should work, but I guess it depends on how they're implemented. Mouse buttons would also not work, yes. Wayland currently requires an output for the input devices to work.
>So you're suggesting I switch to xorg?
I mean, you don't have any other choice. Wayland does not support what you're trying to do. X11 does, I've tested it out.

>>106149073
Have you tried installing it through the terminal to see why it hangs and if it has any error when being launched? This looks like the Flatpak is just the GUI for some kind of a daemon that you need installed onto your system, which is kinda tough to do on SteamOS seeing how it's immutable.

>>106149144
>Wayland currently requires an output for the input devices to work.
even windows isn't this bad.
Why wayland is being shilled this much?
>X11 does, I've tested it out.
Checks out i tested with good old debian + KDE

>>106149230
To be fair, when would you ever need this feature?
>Why wayland is being shilled this much?
It's the only thing being worked on currently. X11 is abandonware and doesn't support many other things.

>>106149384
>when would you ever need this feature?
Really?
Well assume I use my PC to play music and want to lower down the volume without having to turn on the monitor.
Pause playback when the monitor is off for whatever reason.
And the cases switches don't work when the monitor is off on wayland, only x11.
Why'd remove such features?

>>106149438
>media playback
Sure, I get it, but can't you just use KDE Connect for this?
I mean, this is quite an edge case. I've never heard of anyone handling music controls with a screen off. Even then your audio device would at least have hardware volume controls.
I guess you could always just ask Wayland devs or Wayland implementers like KDE to support inputs when there's no video output device.
>case switches don't work
Sounds like a hardware issue to me since mine work fine with Wayland and no display output.

>>106149438
not him but i just unplugged my monitor and my keyboard still worked (kde)

>>106149500
>KDE Connect
As a rule I don't use my phone while I'm at home.
Why do you feel you need to be connected to a phone 24/7?
And no it's not an edge case, you can use PC for things other than playing games, and being able to control it even with disconnected monitor is still valid and common situation.
>Sounds like a hardware issue to me since mine work fine with Wayland and no display output.
Nope, I tested it since that guy told me it's wayland issue.
Basically to my understanding, when there's no monitor connected, there's no graphical environment and therefore no way register any input from mouse/keyboard/case switches
You need to disconnect the monitor or power it off, most monitors don't really power down, and just go into sleep mode.
>>106149523
On wayland?
I'm using arch with KDE

>>106149614
>being able to control it even with disconnected monitor is still valid and common situation.
No, anon. You have to accept that you're in a very, very small minority of people. Nobody sane uses their PC with monitor off, even if it is just for music. I mean fuck, even back when we had CRT monitors which drained a ton of power, everyone just left them turned on or used a screen saver while playing music.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one doing this.

>>106149614
On debian wayland.
Right after posting I realized plasma crashed (but not kwin or chromium).

>>106149712
No, anon. You have to accept that people use pc in ways other than you including when the monitor is off.
>everyone just left them turned on or used a screen saver while playing music
You never turn off the monitor when having sex?
>I wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one doing this.
What are servers.

>>106149774
>What are servers.
Servers have an active TTY and don't use either x11 nor wayland.
>You never turn off the monitor when having sex?
I use Linux, I don't have sex.

>>106149849
>Servers have an active TTY and don't use either x11 nor wayland.
NTA, but that's not correct.
Those are headless server which by design require active TTY.
Gaming servers, remote desktop servers, Browser based VNC applications still require active graphical environment to be initiated.
>I use Linux, I don't have sex.
Speak for yourself, virgin.

>>106147488
>i bet you dont even read the source code anon

>>106149899
Yes, but in those cases display output still happening. So the wayland issue wouldn't even be there. I'm specifically talking about servers which don't have a display output of any kind, not even a dummy/virtual one.
Once you set up something like a VNC, for example, you're expecting the desktop environment to get initialized and displayed through VNC. Wayland would allow you to use keyboard/mouse inputs in this scenario.

>>106150159
>display output still happening
Yeah, with a work around involving a dummy plug that work the same as connected powered monitor.
>Once you set up something like a VNC, for example, you're expecting the desktop environment to get initialized and displayed through VNC. Wayland would allow you to use keyboard/mouse inputs in this scenario.
You don't know what you're talking about.
VNC doesn't work like that.
It "capture" you graphical session, if there's no monitor connected then it capture nothingness.

>>106150287
>VNC doesn't work like that.
>It "capture" you graphical session, if there's no monitor connected then it capture nothingness.
not him but that's how vnc typically works, actually. only with special vnc servers like x11vnc will it capture an existing session. a typical vnc session is it's own completely separate thing

>>106150287
>if there's no monitor connected then it capture nothingness.
You won't have a monitor on a server or a device without video output. You would start a wm or a DE through a TTY and then launch VNC. And, from what I remember, it's going to treat it as a display output device. Maybe I was using some special snowflake VNC server which did this or created a dummy output.

>>106150342
on linux, when you run "vncserver", it spins up a new x11 session independent of any other video subsystem. it doesn't require a video output of any kind. you can have a vnc session with a graphics card at all. it's entirely cpu-based

>>106150392
without* a graphics card

The amount of samefagging just to prove a big is a feature

>>106150392
Ah, I guess that explains it. Thanks for the info, anon.

>>106150444
all good, i admit it's a departure from what is typical elsewhere, namely on windows, where like you'd typically run tightvnc and it will capture the session you run it from, your actual on-monitor console session
like i said, there are vnc servers that can do the same in linux, like x11vnc, which can capture the session you see on your monitor as well, but it's not the typical case for linux.
i don't use vnc a whole lot, but i do sometimes for one reason or another run it on my vps, and while the vps does technically have a video output, "vncserver" doesn't display that. my vps provider does have a vnc-based option if i enable it to see the "actual" console, but it's only intended for things like installing an OS or recovering from something that's preventing the OS from booting properly, basically it shows the output of the emulated video card, what you'd see on a monitor in terms of real hardware. for typical usage if you want a gui you're doing it from an independent vnc session, something not relying on any video hardware, emulated or real. you can also not expect physically-connected keyboard and mice to interact with said vnc sessions, at least not without configuration. i haven't had a need to use physically-attached input with such a vnc session, so i'm not sure what would be required to achieve that, if possible. input for such a session is expected to come from the viewing client, not the server

>>106150444
>>106150588
also worth noting windows does have an equivalent to this as well. on server editions of windows there is Terminal Services, which allows for multiple independent graphical sessions separate from the console (i.e. the session you see on a physically-attached monitor), which also don't respond to physical input devices, which is by design.
on consumer editions of windows, you're only allowed to have one graphical session running at a time. like you can RDP in, but it will kick you off an existing session if you do so. this is not a technical limitation, but a licensing one, you're expected to pay for multiple sessions in windows.

I have minimal experience with Linux, rubbing Ubuntu in the past. I would like to abandon windows for the most part, dual boot with a 2nd drive. I want to play some games (some modernish), emulation, general usage. What distro would you recommend?

>>106150968
Bazzite.

>>106150968
Bazzite is probably the ideal distro for you. Just select the KDE Plasma version instead of GNOME. KDE will feel more natural to you since you're a former Windows user, and it's more feature-rich and compatible with some extra stuff (like wallpaper engine)