What went right?

Nothing. I'm still using pulseaudio.

>>106129947 (OP)
It worked, on arrival. Replaced pulseaudio and the other sound systems seemlessly for 99.9% of users
>>106129965
>still using pulseaudio
You're missing out on Easyeffects and WirePlumber

Doing jack stuff without the jack daemon through an audio system that is also compatible with pulseaudio applications is awesome. I suspect this thread will be full of complainers but those clowns probably need a DAW to make music anyway.

>>106129947 (OP)
every time I plug in my headphones my ears get blasted a sudden deafening crackling noise. I'm currently using LMDE 6 because I thought it was something to do with ubuntu since it happens on ubuntu its and regular linux mint.

>>106130002
>Easyeffects
I don't need an EQ because I'm using good headphones.
>WirePlumber
Not using Wayland so I dont care. Also I think pipewire is also installed on my system just not the audio server.

Killed off the small part of the ecosystem that supported ALSA and replaced it with a carcass

>>106129947 (OP)
Nooooo, stop replacing Pulseaudio!

>>106130019
>EQ
I use it because my mic is shit, it has noise reduction and loudness
>Not using Wayland
Me neither. WirePlumber for sending audio from firefox to zoom and say "can't hear you, there's construction outside"

it just works

>>106130002
No, it didn't fucktard.
>Easyeffects
PulseEffects exist.
>WirePlumber
Useless bloat shit.
You do know, there's multiple sound servers underneath PipeWire right?
I can't wait for the next sound server from Red Hat to finally fix this sound server "problem"

>>106129947 (OP)
>500+MB at idle
LMAO

That "PW" on the logo looks like jewish alphabet

>>106129965
Same. I have convolution EQ and various other effects working directly in PA.

>>106129965
pulseaudio is the niggerest of them all
you either use ALSA because you need to do something specific with your device
or JACK/pipewire for audio server with clients (your applications)

>>106130300
Pretty sure you're tired of hearing how much of a retard you are and that unused ram is wasted ram by now

>>106129947 (OP)
Looks like a menorah

>>106133548
>pulseaudio is the niggerest of them all
No, it's not. Everything still uses Pulse. If it doesn't use Pulse, then ALSA.

>>106129947 (OP)
Enjoy your crackling audio in Wine.

>>106133559
Pretty sure a simple sound server doesn't require 500+MB of RAM AT IDLE. The one I use certainly doesn't. It also has more features, is better documented and actually fucking works.

Imagine dealing with Linux's audio sub-system and any of the cancer bolted on top of it. 500MB of RAM AT IDLE LMAO

>>106133619
ok retard. maybe you should find something to use all that ram on

Nothing, BSD got it right by sticking with OSS

>>106129947 (OP)
pipewire fucking rules. I just plug in audio interfaces and midi shit and everything works. I can't even remember the last time I launched qpwgraph.

>>106133619
the shit uses 70mb after 16 hours uptime, seems like 2x that of pulse.

>>106133620
I do! I do actual work! I don't waste 12+GB of fucking RAM and sit there with multiple CPU cores pegged at 100% because I'm using shitty software coded by people that have no idea wtf they're doing.

Instead I use: https://sndio.org/

No RAM at idle, barely any RAM during use. Maybe 1% of one CPU core when doing something intensive. Actual routing. Actual man pages. Just werks.

Do you know why? Because people didn't throw a shit fit over OSS 30 years ago on the OS it was developed for and they actually know what they're doing. They're developers. Not webdevs LARPing as developers. Which is why their sound server doesn't consume 500MB OF RAM AT IDLE when it isn't busy crashing all over the fucking place.

>>106133671
>the shit uses 70mb after 16 hours uptime, seems like 2x that of pulse.
Is that supposed to be impressive? 70MB of RAM used. To route midis and sound? LMFAO.

This is why Linux is shit. It's filled with dumb people like you willing to accept the shit they put out. Even Windows manages to get sound right without being fucking retarded. ALSA is no better either. Holy shit. If you're going to accept that garbage as the basis of your sound at least use JACK or something.

>>106133684
moetube

>>106133684
you can kill yourself right now and your dead body will be more useful than you are now.
Windows uses more RAM than linux and you get telemetry on top of it, and "Antimalware Service Executable" raping your hdd by scanning your files and sending hashes to MS.

>>106129947 (OP)
It's fine I wish it didn't auto switch my audio source when I turn off a monitor though

>>106133684
>Instead I use: https://sndio.org/
Cool, first time I've seen this project. Looks interesting. My biggest recurring problem before pipwire was dropped MIDI notes. The frame and period settings in Jack had to be fiddled with a lot. In a cursory web search I haven't found any real-world examples or benchmarks comparing sndio MIDI performance to other projects. Do you know of any?

>>106133618
For me plumb is better than pulse for that.

I've never had a problem with Pipewire but its service is started by Xfce, my LLM says this is correct, but should I use OpenRC instead? LLM says that is bad and dumb.

>>106133684
I used this on OpenBSD and problems weren't but I use Linux software on Linux.

>>106133937
What is plumb? Did you mean wire plumber? Am confuse I just want the crackling to end.

>>106134987
Plvmblvm. Retvrn to leaden tvbes.

>>106134242
You're LLM is bad and dumb.
OpenRC is an alternative to Systemd not Pipewire/Pulse/ALSA/Jack/OSS.
XFCE only needs Pulse (or Pulse emulation in Pipewire) for the panel/taskbar audio plugin. You can replace this with a pure ALSA plugin if you want.

>>106133684
I miss sndio, ever since I had to go back to Linux for virtual machine work I've had minor audio issues constantly, and sometimes Pipewire going insane just because I plugged in some headphones
OpenBSD was hard to get used to but things never broke for no reason

>>106133559
>unused ram is wasted ram
yeah until you actually need it, when you do wasted ram is wasted ram
top hutzpa tho

>>106129947 (OP)
They copied CoreAudio.

>>106129947 (OP)
they added jack support, it's the only reason i switched to it

>>106135264
If you don't need audio then shut down the audio server. If you do need audio then deal with memory usage. Lastly, if your audio server is using 500+MB of RAM like >>106130300 then fix your fucking system or switch to a better distribution:
$ sudo python3 ps_mem.py -p $(pgrep -d, -f pipewire\|wireplumber)
Private + Shared = RAM used Program

24.0 KiB + 10.5 KiB = 34.5 KiB supervise-daemon (3)
12.0 KiB + 100.5 KiB = 112.5 KiB wireplumber
668.0 KiB + 161.5 KiB = 829.5 KiB pipewire-pulse
804.0 KiB + 183.5 KiB = 987.5 KiB pipewire
---------------------------------
1.9 MiB
=================================

>>106135482
>pipewire
>without audio
????????

>>106137212
not him but pipewire handles video as well

>>106137269
Ah right, it exposes webcam by default

I'm a little confused about the RAM usage thing. My system is using about 250 KB of RAM for Pipewire. Is it common to use hundreds of MB?

>>106137212
He said idle so I assume that's when not capturing or playing back any audio/video (it's not exactly idle otherwise, is it?)

>>106129947 (OP)
It was new

>>106129947 (OP)
Red hat making it a mandatory dependency of desktop portals so all wayland systems need pipewire to function