The online job application process has never worked, and people are finally starting to talk about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QitGSpR-brA

It works for the vast majority (not me though I've been neet for 5 out of 7 years since I graduated), so nothing is going to change.

I'm a hiring manager and it's looking grim
the baseline for new grads is complete retards that rely on cluely to pass interviews, and have spent the last year doomscrolling without generating a single original thought in their heads
an unemployable generation

>>106131359 (OP)
Return to firm handshakes and high quality paper

>>106131438
Stop lying nigger you just want more jeet slaves
Zoomers who actually try come out of school with insanely stacked resumes and they're still getting jack shit in this market

>>106131438
>SAAAAAAAR THE WHITE BHENCHOD DALITNFRESHERS CANNOT DO THE WORK SAAR I MUST HIRE MY COUSIN SUKHDEEP'S VILLAGE INSTEAD SAAR

>>106131469
>Zoomers who actually try
might as well find a unicorn
retards are being replaced by jeets because the difference is marginal but the cost is not

>>106131359 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with online applications, the problem is jeets and other races of dishonest scammers.

The jeets take over the hiring process of companies
the jeets hire only their own, but how to hide this basic religious and social practice?
they only list jobs with unrealistic abilities given the wages
then their fellow jeets just lie on the resumes being the liars of the lying races
if a white person applies then the jeets will inspect and detect lies
so a white person isn't allowed to lie but the jeet lies
and that's how a less qualified jeet gets a job over a more qualified white man

>>106131528
Renounce hinduism, dikshit

>>106131469
where are these zoomers with "stacked" resumes?

>>106131742
Where are these ranjeets who can "use" a toilet, streetshitter?

>>106131359 (OP)
>finally starting to talk about it
If by finally you mean continuing to talk about it like we've been talking about it for the last decade.

>>106131566
>There's nothing wrong with online applications
>It's just weak to this thing that we can stop
That means there's something wrong with online applications. It can't handle spamming but spamming increases the likelihood someone will respond so people (jeets) will spam.

>his suggestion at the end is is to just spam anyway

This problem is caused by a trillion underqualified retards spamming resumes! Actually, hiring managers never fucking hire for the qualifications they ask for so that's exactly the correct thing to do!
Just silly. No it's not a good thing that hiring managers are liars and reward liars. Ah whatever I don't care, it's none of my business

>>106131425
>not me though
I do not know a single person it actually has worked for. Everyone says this. "It definitely works just not for me." Everyone at my last company was an intern or came in via a friend or recruiter. Everyone at my current job is pretty much a contractor who came in via a recruiter.

The only places cold applications work are startups that are too small to even have HR departments and you're emailing the CEO/tech lead directly.

>>106131359 (OP)
>This video does not have subtitles and cannot be summarized. Try another video
Not watching all that shit OP

>>106133200
>The online job application process has never worked, and people are finally starting to talk about it
That’s the summary, Anon. It’s in the OP.

>>106133266
cool thanks, let me know if/when they have something interesting to say

>>106133279
What is your definition of interesting? Tips on how to get a job? How the landscape is changing? If so, from my experience, recruiters reach out to me on LinkedIn. If recruiters are not reaching out because you are a recent graduate, for example, then reach out to leadership such as director and VP levels are companies asking for entry level roles or available positions.

>>106131425
>It works for the vast majority
No it doesn't anon. Have you ever heard someone say "Wow I'm glad we do it this way" now?

>>106131742
>where are these zoomers with "stacked" resumes?
Sitting at their parents house because people like you and >>106131528 invaded our fucking countries and work for pennies a day

>>106133189
It worked 10 years ago, most jobs on there are fake even if the posts are legit because it's simply a matter of recruiters keeping "their options open"

>>106133422
This. It's either for data collection and the job doesn't even exist or they're trying to see if they can replace their workers with someone that can do the job (badly) for cheaper

>>106131566
I got interviewed for Amazon the semester before I graduated and 3 out of the 4 interviewers were Indian. Recruiter told me I didn't get it because I failed to answer what function overloading was, granted it's a simple thing I should've known, but majority of my experience at that point was in C or higher level languages, not C++ and java.
I just found it odd they failed me based off of one small thing when I nailed everything else.

>>106133453
>I just found it odd they failed me based off of one small thing when I nailed everything else
They failed you because your name doesn't end in "-jesh" or "-preet" they're just not allowed to say that

>>106131359 (OP)
What's the fucking alternative? Places don't accept any other method but the whole dance around. Only thing I can think of is field based mixers or career fairs.

>>106133459
This was my first experience with Indians and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Actually, that was still the only time I've spoken to Indians.
I ended up getting a job in military stuff and work with only white guys with very few girls. Blessing in disguise. Probably will stick with defense my whole life at this point.

>>106133459
Right. They exist to fail the whitey.

Race is all. All is race. nothing but race, everything is race.

>>106133476
That's awesome. It probably pays better with better working conditions too. Once they infiltrate that it's over anyway.

>>106133489
>pays better
haha, no. But it's more than enough for me and my lifestyle.
Don't see how they can ever get into defense unless the US suddenly stop caring about clearances, and I doubt they ever will. All the people in charge of security stuff have sticks so far up their butts they go crazy over the smallest of security issues.

>>106133513
Tell me more about this. Do I have to have military experience in the past? How do I go about getting security clearance? Would they be willing to ship me off for contract work on a base in another country?

>>106133572
Nta but you'd need some form of certs and a clean record I think. The record is what always stops me from landing jobs like that.

>>106133580
Well my record is squeaky clean, and I have a bunch of Coursera certs lol. But I'm guessing you need some actual government ones?

>>106133590
I'm not 100% sure, depending on what you're looking for it wouldn't surprise me if those got your foot in the door provided you're competent, which, you're on /g/ so you're either above average intelligence or the most retarded person they've ever had apply.

>>106133590
Biggest problem with govt jobs is location.

>>106133475
Go to the right undergrad and get your first job in the right city, and exist in the physical proximity of people you want to hire you and their employees.

>>106133625
Yeah fuck that. I don't have the money to waste on living in a place where the jobs I want are before I actually get the job. I'm not gonna go the way of some hopeful amateur actor moving to LA and ending up on the streets.

>>106133663
The solution is to unite as a race, because that's what the jeets do. Jeet hiring, no whites need botherin.

>>106133189
>>106133406
I got my previous and current job by sending my resume to online job portal in my cuntry.
>t. zoomie electrican.

>>106133711
We already tried that and it ended up with anglos/krauts bullying everyone else.

>>106133742
>else
else????? ??

>>106131359 (OP)
I remember when they made you take shitty Indeed tests and you could pass most of them without even knowing the actual topic. Then once in a while a company would have a ungodly long 1-2 hour test full of personality questions and weird IQ test minigames

>>106133755
>IQ test minigames
Jesus Christ

>>106133725
Trades are probably the one exception to that. My buddy's a sparky, once you get your J-man ticket it's smooth sailing. Good path to choose bro

>>106133765
>/g/
>become a welder

I think we are at peak jeet fatigue.

>>106133782
Sparky usually means electrician where I'm from but welding is a good choice too if you can handle it. Fortunately trades are still /ourjobs/ (for now)
t. welded for a brief period
Captcha: WYG4Y

>>106133795
ahhh sounds like a retarded country. I hope someone nukes it so I don't need to learn that stuff.

>>106133819
Me too at this point

>>106133453
I wouldn't hire you either

>>106131359 (OP)
This was a decent video. I then decided to watch his video on male sexuality and, while I agreed one some points of it, it just veered into him being a heavy leftist going with "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED" statements.

>>106131438
You’re ironically posting doom scrolling midwit bait. You are the cancer killing the industry

>>106133742
Some say nothing has changed
Have you tried staying in your own country?

I got all my jobs via online application though granted last time I got hired was 2017

>>106133742
>We already tried that and it ended up with anglos/krauts bullying everyone else.
Yeah it looks like we'll have to go back to that because not doing it isn't working.

>>106133406
Every job I got was through Linkedin so heh

>>106133725
>online job portal in my cuntry.
We don't have that in the US.

I'm a neet now due to disability but when I got a job back in 2003 it was because of an open day at the job centre where they would employ any idiot that showed up.

>>106135928
And I never got a job in the computing industry, I like tech, hate "computer people" in "real life".

>>106133453
Ι mean you should have known what function overloading is

>>106131359 (OP)
>job application
>>106131438
>hiring manager
>interviews
>>106131469
>resumes
>>106132965
>qualifications
>>106133189
>recruiter
>HR departments
All of this shit is obsolete and only exists due to inertia. IBM already fired most of their HR and replaced them with their Watsonx agents - so far no problems. There are also predictive algorithms that can assess human outcome probabilities better than any human, so you will make fewer mistakes by just trusting the output. This applies not just to work, but to personal matters (e.g. with the right training data you can already predict the success of a marriage better than human judgement).
The inevitable future of humanity is auto-assignment. You will deploy your personal agent swarm to negotiate with the agents of every employer in the world to find the best possible job for your personal skills and interests. No application or interview - you just show up and clock in. By the same process you will auto-buy/rent an ideal home, be introduced to the most compatible group of people in your new city and get an AI-assigned gf. A lot of people will drag their feet with this, because it puts them out of their current job, but there is no way they can possibly compete with data-driven optimization.

>>106136037
there is no function overloading in C
you are the jeet here if you think there is
if he didn't use C++/Java then he might actually never come across it
why would he need to know what it is if it was of no use to him?

>>106137068
Lmao

>>106133453
>function overloading was, granted it's a simple thing I should've known, but majority of my experience at that point was in C or higher level languages

I wouldn't have hired you either.

Function overloading is a fundamental concept in "higher level languages".

>>106136432
>All of this shit is obsolete and only exists due to inertia. IBM already fired most of their HR and replaced them with their Watsonx agents - so far no problems.

Any company that fires their recruiting staff deserves my respect.

>>106137068
>there is no function overloading in C
>you are the jeet here if you think there is
>if he didn't use C++/Java then he might actually never come across it
>why would he need to know what it is if it was of no use to him?

You have just confirmed my suspicions: You learnt programming from DURGA SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS.

Go learn basic programming fundamentals.

>>106137582
You are mistaken. It was my first post in this thread, retard. If you say you can implement function overloading with _Generic then it is not widely supported and is not actual C code. Macros are not C.

>>106131359 (OP)
Ontop of that, websites like indeed started forcing account creation and fucking around more as a priority than users wanting to find a job. So yeah its not any different anyway cause the employers never respond and its like were doxing ourselves to them to sell our personal info to china. I think thats what the job websites are designed for.

>>106131438
Kill yourself kike

>>106133765
you can get literally all sorts of jobs online, most people are just too lazy to search for them.
>>106135895
You don't have websites where you can just apply for random job offers?
>>106133749
slavs, italians, irish etc. For some reason, anglos and krauts thing that they are somehow at the top of white people's barrel (and yet they will still spit on one another's back).
>>106135405
Well, triple K will no longer fuck over random europeans for not being "white enough" in US I think.
>Have you tried staying in your own country?
I live in my country, unlike obsessed anglos who live in stolen land and shitpost about their "identity".
>>106135798
glhf

>>106131359 (OP)
>The online job application process has never worked
he clearly blames ATS for this. why are you blaming "the internet"?

>>106137636
Macros ARE part of C you mouthbreathing moron. Your response is indicative of a complete lack of professional thought or capability.

>>106133590
Did work in this sector and went non-military route. If you want to get in:

1. Do it fast. A lot of Americans filter themselves out through drug use and as long as weed is illegal at top level, it is a lot less competition.

2. Apply for a cleared job for the government. Gov pays shit but they place a priority on getting you through the process. Its a year long min backlog depending on the level before it even starts which is why gov doesn't even try to get people who run to become contractor.

3. Clean is good but you also need to collect info on friends and family. This is actually pretty hard if your direct family has strained relations or you're a neet who doesn't interact with a lot of people.

Assuming you got in, yea they would ship you off be it gov or contractor.

>>106141504
It is the preprocessor. It is the part of the standard, but it's not C language proper. The only true thing is that to be considered C compiler it needs support for macros, but it doesn't mean macros are C. It runs at different stage of the compilation. It's basically a second language that comes with C toolchain which runs and modifies the source before it is compiled. It's not C code. Macros would be the part of a language if it was the code in the language itself like in Zig or Lisp.

Also I didn't say I'm professional C programmer, wtf is your point? But one doesn't need to be C programmer in particular to know basic fucking things about C. You are retard here.

>>106142331

wrong

https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1256.pdf

>>106131469
stacked zoomers are retarded if they didnt get internship + returning offer. that has always been the case.

>>106142344
That doesn't mean anything. As I said before it's part of the standard, but it is not part of the C language. It's a distinct thing which comes with the toolchain and is not a part of the compiler. Toolchain consist of the preprocessor, compiler, linker, assembler and some other things. Preprocessor is not a part of the compiler for C language. One can make it a part of the compiler, but it stills runs as a translation step before the tokenization happens. It doesn't share the syntax and semantics of the C language therefore it's not part of the language.

Got my last 2 engineering jobs via LinkedIn 2021 and 2022 respectively. I hop back on now and every posting has 1k+ applicants within a few days. Are people just botting? Not to mention most of the metrics say 40-50% + applicants have a masters.
Thinking of just fully switching off LinkedIn.

Indeed is unsuable at this point. Ukraine and lgbt flags, lazy job posts using their broken overengineered format. I've never even made a LinkedIn account. For blue-collar failures like myself, AI presents a rare opportunity to break a system designed for people with no backbone

>>106142794
>Are people just botting?
try watching the video

>>106133418
They're paid the same as most local workers. Ruling out cost, the only other prevailing factor would be work ethic.

> To ensure that U.S. workers wages are not being undercut, H-1B employers must pay at least the “prevailing wage,” the average wage paid to similar workers in the same geographic area, though most employers pay more. In 2023, the median wage for H-1B workers was $118,000, on par with the 90th percentile ($121,000) of all U.S. wages.

https://www.fwd.us/news/h1b-visa-program/

>>106144587
>the only other prevailing factor would be work ethic
actually, it is leverage, the ability to hold the h1b over the workers' heads to have more control than they'd otherwise have

and such a poor choice of stats, not even normalizing the dollar amount within each industry, sus.

>>106145548
This. You aren't complaining and asking for raises when your employer has you by the balls like this. I know because I was in that situation.

>>106131359 (OP)
>Walk into random office
>Ask staff if they have a role open
>Give resume
>get offer
Now how hard is that
>NoOOOooOOOoOOO, YOU CANT DO IT THAT WAY.
And that, along with your smelly axe wound, is why you will never be employable.

>>106133453
You were too hygienic. Next time lather yourself in cow shit and tell Bharat is your greatest allied superpower and you'll get the job.

>>106146363
did you give the manager a firm handshake and ask for a job in the mailroom?

>>106146363
I tried to do that 12 times before giving up. Then I got job via internet and email.

>walk into random office
>door is locked
>nobody comes when trying everything

>walk into random office
>ask staff if they have a role open
>people look you like you are lost or retarded
>boss comes and explains with serious negative attitude how you should send email like other people
>now you definitely are not considered even if you would send that email

>walk into random office
>ask staff if they have a role open
>boss comes, is really confused who you are and why you don't send email like other people
>boss says to come to his room
>give resume
>boss has your resume in his hands, say something like "very nice" and starts talking about unrelated things in his life
>for the next 15 minutes you can't talk and you are now his therapist
>says he has to go somewhere and you thank him for his time and leave

This always happened. 99,99% of the offices have locked doors and don't even answer to door bell or other things. If you get inside, people think you are brain damaged, lost or asshole. Sometimes they say to your face that you are asshole or just stupid and "what you think why we have that process for everyone, just send email like other people" and after that there is 100% change you don't get job even if you would send the email afterwards.

>>106131359 (OP)
I went to a career fair with a bunch of printed resumes and none would have them. they all said you have to apply online and they literally can't do anything with a physical piece of paper

>>106131359 (OP)
Jeets tend to own a lot of gold and silver, you could make a living robbing them.

>>106148087
there is basically no point to career fairs anymore
>>106147328
this, I've tried as well they don't think it's cute they are annoyed.

>>106147328
The opening was for a therapist, but your follow-up didn't include the necessary blackmail proof you actually cared for the boss with kneepads.

>>106147328
>just be like everyone else, bro
>we're all struggling together, bro
>you're weird, we're normal, bro
I hate gay office jobs so much. I'll probably fall for the trade meme if I can't get a fully remote job.

It's very front-loaded. The most evident sites (LinkedIn, Indeed, Monster etc) are dominated by the richest corpos forcing their postings front and center everywhere and burying everything else. This means they absorb the large majority of applications since most people are stupid and passive and just click on the first things that show up.

To find the gold you have to go off the grid. Utilize other sites that are more web-crawlers, go through companies and apply directly from their site. Some of these places are starving for exposure and your resume will stick out.

>>106148087
god I remember going to one of those when the fed laid off a bunch of workers. Was the most pointless waste of time as every person I talked to said to check their job board or look online. Or better yet treated it like a high school job fair, talking about weeks of training then years of no advancement to people in their 30's and 40's

>>106131359 (OP)
I recently had to help fill an open position in our IT team, discarded like 1/3 of zoomie applications because they put their preferred pronouns in their resumes lmao