Did anyone really want this or did they shove it down our throats?

>>106142514 (OP)
Clearly the market accepted it otherwise it wouldn't have sold

>>106142514 (OP)
Not my problem

>>106142514 (OP)
>>106142525
Half of us are a bunch of good goys who accept everything,... and the other half won't do shit

>>106142514 (OP)
Why would I care about ports I never use.
At least Framework let's me pick whichever ports I want.

>>106142514 (OP)
Yeah, it's ridiculous. My work ThinkPad went from having 3 USB A ports to 1. The laptop isnt even thin, so stupid

I didn't buy a laptop without USB ports, and I didn't buy a cell phone without a headphone jack
This is YOUR problem
>>106142547
>Framework
ripoff company

iToddlers BTFO!

you know apple stopped doing that right

>>106142514 (OP)
On a full featured laptop, I need to see:
USB-A, USB-C, ethernet, and HDMI.
Bonus points for auxiliary audio, and big bonus points for SD card slot. I'm sure if someone was more audio focused an aux port would be necessary, and a photographer would probably require an SD card slot.
Anyway don't buy iShit and you won't have this issue.

>>106142547
If Framework didn't have shitty quality control, shitty keyboard layouts, and used outdated processors, i would get one.

>>106142587
Now post the non-Pro's ports
It's still bad

What you don't like the future

>>106142514 (OP)
Fortunately this guy left Apple some years ago

Frankly, thunderbolt docking stations just make more sense than constantly plugging and unplugging like 7 different wires, a stand alone hdmi port and 3.5mm jack is all you need.

YOU CAN PRY FIREWIRE FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS
FUCK ALL Y'ALL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>>106142603
Literally nobody else does what they do. Either support them or NEVER see another modular laptop again.

>>106142514 (OP)
There's a trillions dollars market of women and minorities who don't give a flying fuck about anything or even have a concept of the future beyond the next 5 minutes. To expect your piddly little million dollar market could ever compete with that in a world where it's illegal to go against shareholder primacy is deranged

>no more RJ45 now that Wi-Fi is common
>no more VGA now that DP exists
>no more USB-A now that USB-C is common
>laptops can now be thin and efficient
Sounds like a win desu

>>106142738
ok commie

>>106142514 (OP)
is it just me or the apple laptop could be much thinner?

>>106142514 (OP)
Better profit margins on adapters.

>>106142625
>future
>still has pointless S/PDIF that was never even popular

>>106142817
Its actually the literal opposite of communism

>>106142625
I like how iPhones still transfer at USB 2.0 speeds over a cable.

>>106142796
I think it's still important to have an Ethernet port but yeah the rest can go

>>106142850
I thought most modern phones did that

>>106142715
Business and mid-range laptops are just as upgradeable, and have more ports without relying on these shitty active dongles that suck extra power.

>>106142514 (OP)
yeah bro carrying 5kg around so good

>>106142867
>I think it's still important to have an Ethernet port
Debatable on a laptop. Wifi 6E can do near gigabit speeds with an Intel Wifi card, Mediakek cards are about 400mbps.

>>106142514 (OP)
How many people actually used FireWire 800?

>>106142850
Apple with USB 2 is still faster than Androids with USB3.0
MTP file transfer is a stinking pile of shit.
Takes me hours to transfer my 50GB music folder onto my phone when I had my old Pixel 7 Pro. Took less than 25 mins on my iPhone SE 2022.

>>106143003
Yeah I know and I think it's fine for most people to not have an Ethernet port but some people (me) occasionally need it, but it's not really an issue considering there are still good products out there that cover my own needs

>>106142836
>doesn't know about spidf audio being tangibly better than onboard or USB audio
NGMI

>>106142850
WiFi 7 is literally like 7000Mbps and you don’t need to plug anything in

>>106142836
I want to punch you.

>>106143051
>Takes me hours to transfer my 50GB music folder onto my phone when I had my old Pixel 7 Pro. Took less than 25 mins on my iPhone SE 2022.

You could just take the SD card out, put it in a USB3 reader, copy everything in 10 mins, then put it back in your phone.

>>106142514 (OP)
>how could technology possibly advance to the point where things I liked are obsolete now?
>clearly there must be some conspiracy
>they took something from us by declining to produce 56k dial-up modems forever
There is no conspiracy, anon. Nobody "took" anything. You just got old.

>>106142525
You either upgrade or be left with an ancient unusable device. There is no consumer choice, especially since every manufacture copies each other. You either take what is on offer or go with nothing.

>>106143150
SD Cards are slower than USB 2 on writes unless you buy those overpriced extreme cards, that still top out at 70MB/s.

>>106142625
to be fair one of those usb c ports could power a 10 port usb hub

>>106142514 (OP)
It just happened. Normies don't really care about anything so they just kept buying stuff while things steadily got worse. I haven't bought a new laptop in years, but that doesn't matter because people like me make up less than 1% of the market.

>>106142569
Same here, anon. Unlike some, I stick to my principles.

>>106143098
human ear couldn't tell difference

>>106142547
least blatant framework shill

>>106142625
can't wait till usb a is gone
>>106143333
you're a nigger and not human so makes sense

>>106143274
Imagine sticking your expensive high end Sony Xperia phone in a cheap shitty ass case...

>>106142625
what's with all the ugly panels on the motherboard?

>>106142514 (OP)
thinkpad chads don't have this problem

>>106143419
I try to preserve every phone I own. I don't expect subhumans to understand the concept of preservation.

>15 years later

>>106143003
>>106143082
Ethernet port is good for a laptop being used to service ethernet equipped devices when they're in a network without wifi access.

>>106142679
In the wild, you don't need the docking station.

>>106143554
Yeah sure Steve Jobs is a subhuman huh?

>>106142547
I would support Framework if they don't charge close to $1000 for pure recycled plastic chassis

>>106143932
Have you held a Framework at all?
Where did you get the idea that the chassis was bad?

>>106143051
i just sync shit up with adb now, i would gladly murder whoever came up with mtp and all the other different file access layer garbage though

>>106142625
I'd never buy a mobo like this and if someone gave it to me for free I would snap it in half so that noone else would have to use it

>>106143567
SOVL

i mourn old google every single fucking day

>>106143975
Yes
There's nothing inherently wrong with plastic chassis but don't charge close to $1000 for one.

>>106142514 (OP)
Thunderbolt 3 can do literally everything all of those ports can do simultaneously, and on the 2016-2019 MacBooks you get four (4) of them. On the 2020 and later MacBooks you get 3 and a couple of the dedicated ports back because people complained so much but imo this is one of the things they shouldn't have gone back on.
More ≠ better.

Rather have both bigger batteries and a smaller portable computer 2bh

>>106142514 (OP)
I thought laptops with ethernet ports are still being sold today? What's the issue

>>106142605
The I/O on the MacBook Air has always been shit.

>>106143932
>>106144613
Bro what drugs are you on?
https://frame.work/products/framework-laptop-13-chassis-p6100?v=FRANHQ0001

Or do you mean to insist on an aluminum frame instead?
Aluminum is overrated. It's a machine, not jewelry. Nobody complains about a $2000 workstation ThinkPad being plastic or a $4000 gaming laptop being plastic

>>106145616
OP is a luddite who for some reason doesn't understand the benefits of USB-4
Probably has a pile of outdated tech in his drawer he hasn't touched in decades.

>>106142514 (OP)
Someone name all the ports in this image

>>106145849
the one you're probably not gonna get is firewire and the kensington lock

>>106142514 (OP)
Aside from ethernet for SNAFU what ports are needed on modern mbp? You get 3 TB5 with absurd data transfer speed, dedicated charging slot, minijack, hdmi 2.1 and even an SD card slot for some reason (which I use as slow-but-it-works-fine external storage)
Like yeah, having at least one normal usb-a would be nice but I haven’t really been missing anything
>but air has almost none of those
No shit you buy facebook machine you get facebook machine

>>106142587
wow 2 whole usbs and a jack

>>106146120
chatgpt would have been able to count correctly

>>106142651
he left like 6 years ago and they just stopped updating the designs at all lol. iphone has had the notch design for like 8 years now

>>106146129
oh my gosh, 3 usbs, a jack, an sd card reader and video out. ill be able to charge my mouse, my real keyboard, and even plug in a usb stick (all with dongles because "u"sb-c). ill even be able to read my 512MB digicam card while i listen to music on itunes

>>106146120
>usbs
it's thunderbolt 5 retard bro

>>106146196
5 usb-cs

>>106146139
>and they just stopped updating the designs at all lol
what innovation do you want out of a fucking laptop design? An extensible dildo?
If anything the rumored innovations (muh push for more portability on pro, muh oled) made me buy a future-proof m4 a few months ago due to the utter clusterfuck that were the chicklet keyboards, the weird touchbar and so on in the past. The current form factor is pretty much perfect outside of maybe lacking a “del” key and things that I’d like to have but won’t actually happen, like thinkpad’s nipple mouse or m.2 slot for expandable storage

>>106146220
i dont want a fucking notch on my screen since its been almost a decade of shit meanwhile every other phone has tiny pinhole cameras instead of 1/8th of the screen being useless

>>106146216
Usb-c isn’t THAT much smaller than usb-a but for some reason it feels really flimsy, I’m scared to use them
usb-a you could hang yourself on the thing and it still wouldn’t come out of its port

>>106146216
usb-c can't into 80GB/s thunderbolt can

>>106146236
Cables are intentionally designed to be more fragile than the port.
Would you like to open up your glued together phone to solder in a new port or replace a cable?

>>106146225
Ah, you mean phones. Yea fair the pill cutout is kinda silly and the notch was even worse
I dont mind them on a laptop since I want to have some status icons n sheeit visible anyway

>>106146241
>80 GB/s
irrelevant outside of eGPU (nobody uses those) and video-out (just use hdmi)

>>106143181
You have a Choice to Participate in the Market, not Participate in the Market, or Start your own Business. If you do not Like the Offerings on Hand then You are Responsible for Changing that.

>>106146271
I have one right next to me

>>106146174
get a hub, fag

>>106146322
>applet needs to buy additional hardware to have feature parity with cheaper devices
tale as old as time

>>106146225
>pinhole cameras
it's not just a camera

>>106146339
everything is type-c now

>>106142625
Yesssssss
now my dream of 4 USB-C travel monitors can be real after all

>>106143037
I used it to convert to firewire 400 to connect to hdv camcorder

>>106142514 (OP)
Doesn't bother me, at most I need for a laptop
>Multiple USB type C ports for charging and data transfer
>A SD card slot is too useful to get rid of, if I'm out and about I probably have a camera of some sort with me
That's it. I have a dock if I need to connect to monitors and ethernet, my headset is wireless, and if I really need some other functionality I'll get a dongle.

>uhm you see 7 different ports that can only be used on very specific things is le good and a few ports that work with literally everything is le bad or something
You don't even anything anymore that you could plug into a firewire port. Stop crying

>>106142543
>>106142514 (OP)
Laptops were always gay anyway.
Trve nerds never cared

>>106146373
… but you can daisy chain those so you only need 1 port

iCucks can't stop winning

>>106142514 (OP)
Humans are cucks look what's going on

>>106146120
three thunderbolt 5 ports
separate charging interface so its not taking up a thunderbolt port
hdmi port
sd card reader
and muh telephone jack

>>106142514 (OP)
Because people will only revolt when death sounds better than the current level of discomfort. Call me a shill if you want but digital-ID and the likes will pass too, because people are not hungry to the point of pain and the current oppression-comfort tradeoff is worth it for them.
Either accept it as you would accept earthquakes and storms and live your life around them or waste your time and sanity building a poor excuse of a resistance along other teenage dystopy consumers

My laptop has 2 x Usb A 3.2 gen 1 ports, 1 x Usb C 3.2 gen 1 port, hdmi, sd card slot and headphone jack.

Suck it, Apple fags.

>>106142514 (OP)
>No PCMCIA slot
NGMI.

>>106142543
>Half aren't good goys
Doubt.

>>106145805
No magnesium alloy, no sale. Simple as.

>>106146880
>no thunderbolt
kek

>>106146913
then you'll be glad to be informed
https://frame.work/laptop16

>>106146915
Sounds like pointless iCuck ware

>>106146880
modern macbooks have all of those except it's USB-4
>>106146926
sounds like cope
t. framework 13 owner
enjoy your no eGPU

>>106146220
>Buying iToddler hardware and calling it future proof
lmao, the planned obsolescence timer is already ticking, goy. Thank you for your purchase, see you in 18 months.

>>106146279
>what is cost of entry
>what are exclusivity deals
disingenious faggot

>>106146929
>Muh eGPU
Works on my machine.

>>106142525
The market is dominated by retarded normies that pick up whatever looks pretty in the store and retarded tech journos who only use their laptop to write articles in a Starbucks.

>>106146929
>egpu
Just use a desktop at this point dumb muhamjeet thirdie

>muh slow USB are better than fast thunderbolt

>>106146955
imagine being so poor and unenlightened that you can't plug an RTX 4090 into your laptop

>>106146254
i wish manufacturers used USB-A for things that require some robustness. laptop docks with USB-C tend to get fucked pretty quick then (at least for dell) you have to replace the entire dock
also i miss laptops with access doors to different components

>>106146994
Imagine being so dumb that you pair an underpowered arm cpu with a clunky card that weighs more than the laptop itself

>>106146971
>you don't even have this port no one uses

>>106147020
no one uses type-A in 2025 everything is type-c now

>>106147059
You don't matter though since you're retarded

>>106147059
My USB scope uses USB-A, all my programmers use USB-A except an old one that still uses serial, all my usb-to-serial adapters use USB-A,....

Some people do more with their laptop than browse Facebook.

>>106147073
you can split one thunderbolt port to 10 USB3 ports, type-a is useless outdated garbage

>>106147180
Thunderbolt is deprecated tard

>>106146996
Thank god you’re not in charge of anything important holy shit

>>106147180
Then I have to carry around an extra dongle and have an ever big mess of wires.
Why would I want that over just having common ports I need constantly integrated into the laptop?

>>106142514 (OP)
??? I still have all those on my laptop.

>>106147221
you already have big mess

>>106147220
Coming from some mouthbreather in a basement with no future

>>106147238
Which makes it all the more important to not increase it.

>>106147247
you can keep plugged all your devices in a single dock and then just connect the dock to your laptop when you need it. it's actually less messy

>>106147263
That implies a static setup, which mine isn't.

>>106147239
>literal shit stained India tier idea
>lashes out when someone disagrees

Please post proof of toilet sarr

>>106143003
Ok now bypass your router and test if your ont or modem is working or if your router is fucked dipshit

>>106147297
Balding spastic shits itself in its basement again

>>106147323
>he can’t even prove he has a toilet
Oh nonononono indiasisters not a good look

>>106142836
even PS2 had it, I don't think I've ever used it

>>106142514 (OP)
you're outnumbered by people who hate computers 10 to 1 so computers are made for people who hate computers and there's nothing you can do about it

>>106142514 (OP)
As an apple sheep the only thing missing on my m4 pro is ethernet, and only for “holy fuck why is nothing working fuckkkk” which happens once every 5 years or so (and I have a dongle anyway)
I do have the last 17” ever produced and it has a ton of ports and most of them are completely useless. Things got BETTER not worse

>>106147297
lol that's a different anon. why are you so against serviceable devices?

>>106143333
It can if you have shitty wiring and need to break a ground loop.

>>106145915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwPNroYv1U

>>106142514 (OP)
3,5mm is on the other side

>>106142850
To be fair, the phone storage itself is a massive bottleneck.
You don't need more than 480 Mbps.

>>106148460

>>106143931
yes,absolutely

>>106142547
framework is an overpriced toy

>>106142587
>No at least 3 usb-a
ngmi

>>106142625
kekolino

REMEMBER ITODDLERINOS ARE FAGGOTS AND TREAT THEM AS SUCH

>>106148834
>usb-a
nah bloat give me SCSI instead

>>106143003
>Says man who does not work in IT
You can pry my CAT cable out of my cold dead hands

>>106148834
>needing usb-a
lemme guess you also need DE9, DB25, RJ11, PCMCIA, PS/2, and 5.25" floppy. ok boomer

>>106142514 (OP)
apple is for normalfaggots
normalfaggots don't need that many ports

>>106146929
>egpu
god i'm so glad i'm not a kid without a real computer anymore

>>106142589
Lol poorfag just get a dongle.

kys