Thread 106144864

Fuck these scammers.
>overpriced laptops that are $1600+ for mid range specs
>garbage screens that aren't even 100% SRGB
>garbage keyboards

lttsisters...

Their framework 12 is like $1100 and its a flimsy piece of garbage shit that has a 66% SRGB screen LOL.

Meanwhile my t440p has a 100% SRGB screen, amazing keyboard, 500GB SSD, 16gb of ram, i7 processor all for $350 LMAO.

Stinkpad users really do be having sour grapes huh?
Lenovo gave up on you. It's time to choose Framework and get the laptop you wanted.

if I wanted to get a laptop for when I'm away from my desktop what should I unironically get then + I dont wanna pay for a windows key im not going to use

Has any Framework user actually done a module swap upgrade?

>>106144992
How's the battery life? :^)

>>106145055
pretty good around 8 hours. I have a 9 cell brand new battery

you cannot find a laptop with a 3:2 screen, 1tb SSD, 32GB RAM for the price you can get one in a framework. simple as. The price is quite good

>>106144864 (OP)
If people stopped buying slop...

>>106144864 (OP)
I like mine and like that I have the option to open it up and do basic work on it as well as knowing I can get parts without having to turn to ebay. If you want something else then by all means get something else.

Garbage keyboard with shitty navigation key layout.

>>106144864 (OP)
I salute them. I probably won't buy one, but it's great that someone made a semi-viable laptop that is somewhat closer to open hardware. Good luck to them.

>>106145054
motherboard? yeah
though desu if they came out with the 16 before the 13 i'd have been a lot happier

>>106145054
Framework wasn't the first to implement GPU module swap, Dell did too.
Except there's literally nothing to swap to.

>>106146259
I have a Precision 7730 and I have to tear down the whole shit just to swap the GPU.
What model are you talking about?

>>106145726
They are replacing a market only for the high end. Stinkpads already get their parts from china. Everything is made in China.

>>106144864 (OP)
>overpriced laptops that are $1600+ for mid range specs
hardware good enough and you pay for the repair ability and upgradeablity
>garbage screens that aren't even 100% SRGB
yeah but it has an amazing aspect ratio
>garbage keyboards
Nothing beats thinkpad keyboards sadly.

Anyway fuck off apple shill.
>>106146278
Not him but I believe there's a toughbook with a replaceable GPU

>>106146316
>you pay for something free
I remember when even the cheapest laptops had this features, even my t420 has pictures around screws to tell you how to access different parts on the motherboard, on top of that it's durably build and I can pour my drink over the keyboard and it won't even complain
>garbage screen
I wouldn't care if these were not ~2x the price of any laptop with similar specs out there

Dell also offered laptops with replaceable parts, but they failed to provide compatible parts. Good luck changing your cpu when it's gonna require a whole new heat sink and power supply. The only realistically upgradeable parts are the ram and storage, but you can do that on pretty much any laptop already (excl apple).
A friend of mine upgraded his dual core to a quad core, but had to lower it's cpu voltage so that it wouldn't overheat due to the heatsink not being capable of dissipating so much heat.

>>106147427
>jeetwork

>>106147482
I'm not a fan of jeetware whether its iJeet or jeetwork, the owner of framework is a jeet btw and it shows since these things are a huge scam

>>106147505
what makes you say that theyre necessarily a scam exactly?

>>106144992
>framework 12 diy
>800 burgerbucks without ram and ssd
That's like 4 stinkpads lmao.

>>106144864 (OP)
>fell for the jeet scam

>>106147409
>pretty much any laptop already
not anymore ryzen ai max and intel lunar lake has soldered in ram

If you go into normie places to get tech you get ripped off. A large department store near me is selling £300 "gaming" laptops for £700 and it has like 500 gb storage. You have to use the Internet and second hand shops to get good laptops these days.

>>106144864 (OP)
I don’t really understand how they’re charging apple prices for it, and not entry level but the pro laptop apple prices. Who buys this?

>>106148044
I think it's a waste of money but I do get the merit of supporting Framework.
/tpg/ is still shitting itself because their 7 years old e-waste has dying battery with no way of replacing it. Framework is the only laptop on the planet that actually fucking sells them for decades to come.

>>106144992
>4th gen i7
lmao did you seriously think it's a flex?

>>106148132
it just works

>>106144864 (OP)
I like mine.

>>106148153
>it barely works
ftfy

>>106148111
>decades to come

I give them a year, 2 years max

>>106148173
Unless the entire cast of Linus Tech Tips drop dead the very next minute, the power of aggresive shilling will keep Framework around for long.

>>106145045
iPad Pro

>>106144864 (OP)
Its a fashion product.
Nothing about it really matters bedsides the name and the brushed aluminum.

>>106145493
why is he butthurt about FW laptops anyway?
Are they too heterosexual for his tastes?

>>106146316
>>overpriced laptops that are $1600+ for mid range specs
>hardware good enough and you pay for the repair ability and upgradeablity
The first was trivial with Dell, you could find every bit and bolt easily, nowadays I am not sure, I haven't used them in forever.

>garbage keyboards
Nothing beats OLD thinkpad keyboards sadly.
FTFY

>>106151764
probably popped up on his feed or something and had a ragy about it. idgi tbf, this board is dead besides ai gooning discussion, few people use frameworks, even fewer browse g with frameworks, fewer still (so basically nobody) care or even acknowledge his existence or are obsessed with macs, hes basically arguing with a boogeyman in his head lol

>>106144864 (OP)
Genuine question, how often is anyone needing to swap out or repair their laptops to make this viable?
I'm genuinely curious because I feel like the ones who are careless enough with their laptops to warrant the need for such repairability are not the ones who are going to be aware that this exists or care...and the ones that are aware of and appreciate this product are the types that would be a little more caring for their machines in the first place.

I mean I guess there is the random freak accident but how often would that really hit someone?
And then there is the upgrades...I feel as though by the time you need to upgrade from what you bought the standards and architecture has shifted as such that you may as well get a new machine entirely in most cases.

>>106148185
>Unless the entire cast of Linus Tech Tips drop dead the very next minute
do not tease me you bastard

>>106148132
For around $150-200 with all brand new parts, display, SSD, battery, fully repairable including the price of the laptop if you get the i5's which are more than plenty for 1080p playback and web browsing, daily work and photo editing.

I spent more because I replaced the keyboard with a backlit one, a good case and I got an i7 that can play source games at 144fps+ 1080p.

You won't find a modern laptop that can watch 1080p videos at 60fps with a 100% SRGB display IPS for $200 that is fully repairable and the fucking CPU is replaceable and the battery is hot swappable with good build quality.

>>106153241
IMO, its more that you don't have to worry as much.
I have an extreme distrust of modern tech where I don't believe in buying expensive, non-modular devices.

Framework is one of few laptops where I can be confident that the common things what could be a problem are no longer one.
I don't feel like I have to baby the type-c ports as they are essentially replaceable, I don't have to worry about the battery only having 60% capacity after 2 years as framework supplies them regularly and at a decent price.

The batteries is a big thing, I've literally never had good luck with laptop batteries, first Gateway laptop I had went from having 4 hours of battery to 30min in a few years, ThinkPad 9 cell when from brand new to 60% health in only a few years even with only 100 cycles and thresholds set.
I don't mind buying new batts as maintenance but supply is so inconsistent.

I feel I must ask the question of why people don't think its viable. Have laptop vendors done such a good job in the last few years providing reliable laptops and constantly providing batteries?
Or do people not use things long enough where its a problem?

Another fucking thread, Arjun?

>>106153927
>replaceable CPU
So you can go from slow to slightly less slow
>hotswappable battery
Is necessary because all you have is chinkshit batteries or 5 year old ones at 50 percent health

>>106145103
Brand new old stock or brand new chineseum-based?

>>106153241
Laptops are usually poorly designed, not built to be serviced or upgraded and rated for temperatures that shouldn't be legal. They're also horrible dust traps which only get worse the longer you use them for, and most people just throw them away instead of cleaning and repasting them. And they do it because maintenance and disassembly is a bitch and a half, or they're just retarded super gay babies.

A low power, low temp laptop isn't going to bother you much but a workstation or a gaymer labtob is going to present those issues sooner or later.

>>106153971
>because all you have is chinkshit batteries or 5 year old ones at 50 percent health
Oh wow yeah that solves that problem just like that!

>>106153971
saaar framework team saaar good laptop saaar by laptop bloody benchod bastard

>>106153948
>I feel I must ask the question of why people don't think its viable. Have laptop vendors done such a good job in the last few years providing reliable laptops and constantly providing batteries?
Or do people not use things long enough where its a problem?

I've had about a dozen laptops. I've had 2 die on me outright. One was killed by a falling sign (no repair could have saved that).
By the time I felt I needed to upgrade things had changed so drastically that I just got a new one.

>>106154043
It's funny that you have Indians shilling this thing and also shilling against it, probably all working at the same sweatshop.

>>106153241
I swap out the ports a lot in mine, I also managed to get a bad LCD which I was able to replace easily.

>>106144864 (OP)
the company is run by a jeet and everyone is somehow surprised its a scam lmao

13 is a good laptop for the price of the DIY edition, buying the prebuilt version is retarded and defeats the entire purpose of the product. All in for the entry level 13 it's around $1100-1200 which is comparable to other business laptops with similar specs.
I wouldn't bother with the 16, 12, or Desktop.

>>106147427
>>106147482
>>106147505
>>106156631
If you look at their staff page, the CEO (Nirav) seems to be the only Indian working there.
The staff is mostly asian with some whites and a token black.
https://frame.work/about

>>106148111
>/tpg/ is still shitting itself because their 7 years old e-waste has dying battery with no way of replacing it
No problem with t480 batteries. Repacking is also a thing.

>>106144992
The Framework 12 is like $750. What are you, fucking retarded?

>>106145045
A Framework, dumbass. They offer a keyboard without the Windows key.

And in X years when you want to upgrade, you can just buy components and upgrade your existing machine.

>>106145991
The left and right arrow keys should be half height, but the keyboard is actually top tier. The best I’ve ever used and it’s not close.

>>106157129
>indian is a boss to a whitey in an allegedly white country now
grim