Enough is enough—I dumped Google’s worsening search for Kagi - /g/ (#106155758) [Archived: 362 hours ago]

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8/5/2025, 11:58:33 PM No.106155758
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/enough-is-enough-i-dumped-googles-worsening-search-for-kagiThe other thing that made me nervous about paying for search was the idea that my money was going to enrich some scumbag VC fund, but fortunately, there's good news on that front. According to the company's "About" page, Kagi has not taken any money from venture capitalist firms. Instead, it has been funded by a combination of self-investment by the founder, selling equity to some Kagi users in two rounds, and subscription revenue:

Kagi was bootstrapped from 2018 to 2023 with ~$3M initial funding from the founder. In 2023, Kagi raised $670K from Kagi users in its first external fundraise, followed by $1.88M raised in 2024, again from our users, bringing the number of users-investors to 93... In early 2024, Kagi became a Public Benefit Corporation (PBCWhat about DuckDuckGo? Or Bing? Or Brave?

Sure, those can be perfectly cromulent alternatives to Google, but honestly, I don't think they go far enough. DuckDuckGo is fine, but it largely utilizes Bing's index; and while DuckDuckGo exercises considerable control over its search results, the company is tied to the vicissitudes of Microsoft by that index. It's a bit like sitting in a boat tied to a submarine. Sure, everything's fine now, but at some point, that sub will do what subs do—and your boat is gonna follow it down.

And as for Bing itself, perhaps I'm nitpicky [Ed. note: He is!], but using Bing feels like interacting with 2000-era MSN's slightly perkier grandkid. It's younger and fresher, yes, but it still radiates that same old stanky feeling of taste-free, designed-by-committee artlessness. I'd rather just use Google—which is saying something. At least Google's search home page remains uncluttered.

Brave Search is another fascinating option I haven't spent a tremendous amount of time with, largely because Brave's cryptocurrency ties still feel incredibly low-rent and skeevy.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:26:46 AM No.106156118
Have you tried using searxng? I heard that if you configure it properly you’d be getting similar search results on par with kagi
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:27:19 AM No.106156125
>>106155758 (OP)
Your entire search history is linked to your ID and your bank account. Even using Google without an account is privacy wise better than using Kagi.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:42:19 AM No.106156278
>>106156118
>searxng
>Try it
>90% results come from Google
>5% from DDG
It's just more of the same.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:47:30 AM No.106156335
>>106156125
Uh huh
https://kagi.com/privacy
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:48:30 AM No.106156344
>>106156125
Not op but from what I've seen from their "trial" searches, Kagi us just plain better than Google as a search engine. Had a good AI slop filter far before the Duck too.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:51:38 AM No.106156364
>>106156335
>Trust me bro, I will not log your search history
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:56:08 AM No.106156408
>>106156344
Even if Kagi's search results are good, Kagi is still from a privacy perspective the worst, because you must use it with an personal account.
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8/6/2025, 12:56:23 AM No.106156411
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>>106156364
You don't need to "trust" them if you don't want to
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:59:31 AM No.106156447
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>>106155758 (OP)
>paying for search results
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:06:42 AM No.106156509
>>106156411
Even if you pay with crypto and use tor, you are still forced to use a account and they are able to link ALL your search queries to your account. From a privacy perspective, using Kagi (with mandatory account) is objecitvely worse than using Google Search without Google account.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:20:38 AM No.106156653
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>>106156408
>>106156509
Even if we take it that Kagi is completely lying through its teeth about every privacy aspect it mentions like not tracking searches, analytics or telemetry, that it has highly strong options for anonymity makes it more trustworthy than Google by default. Yes I know anonymity != privacy.

With that said I see no reason *why* it would lie about that and do not see anything to indicate it did. For the first, *if* it's found to lie and actually do heavy tracking, its main benefit is in the dump and the service would be dead and humiliated. For the second, it can be easily checked in the browser. Privacy Badger and UBlock Origin flare up instantly on a Google search, but return nothing on Kagi. And lastly, it has a canary, by its own accord it hasn't given data to glowies thus far. Google on the other hand has and will at any time a glowie asks.