VPNs are a scam just like search engines - /g/ (#106157792) [Archived: 267 hours ago]

Gnostic Anon
8/6/2025, 3:39:04 AM No.106157792
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Just use a custom proxy stack consisting of X25519, chacha20, poly1305 and kyber, which is resistant to quantum computers since you don't need a client and in fact, I advise against it because there curently are no safe VPN providers as they're all written in garbage lower level languages like C/C++/Go (and that includes OpenVPN and Wireshark) and lack full tunnel control. They're garbage.

Search engines index everything yoi search because everytime you execute a search that adds content to thecweb and you're not the only one who can see that regardless whether you used DuckDuckGo or Google.
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Gnostic Anon
8/6/2025, 3:42:05 AM No.106157811
>>106157792 (OP)
Also, you'll need at least 261 bits of encryption, but if you wanted, you could even use thousands of bits (say, 6000-bit encryption).
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:51:45 AM No.106158247
i need to make coffee shop vpns. it's done with a raspberry pi right? or an arduino. always get those confused
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:56:59 AM No.106158288
>>106158247
You mean like hiding a raspberry pi running a vpn in a coffee shop or somewhere else with public wifi? Interesting idea.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:58:02 AM No.106158300
>>106158288
Yeah that's exactly it. not my idea
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:16:30 AM No.106158448
>>106158300
You have any articles or other reading you could point to me about this? I'm curious if anyone has tried it.
I guess the hard part would be getting it where it wouldn't be noticed or found but could get power. Maybe behind an outlet cover in the bathroom would work?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:19:41 AM No.106158469
>>106157792 (OP)
>use a custom proxy stack consisting of X25519, chacha20, poly1305 and kyber
any sources on how to set this tech gobblygook up?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:25:50 AM No.106158508
>>106157792 (OP)
>lower level languages are garbage
what?
>resistant to quantum computers
WireGuard gives you pre-shared keys for a reason.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:26:34 AM No.106158514
I wish, but I'd just be googling for it sorry.
i saw it posted on this board several years ago, so I imagine there's some stuff in the archive about it.

Good idea with the bathroom receptacle. Much better than mine which was to disguise myself as a repairman and hope the workers assume their boss sent me
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:29:46 AM No.106158528
>>106158508
wireguard isn't any good because wireguard is easy, and is simple to set up, and doesn't make you feel like a l33t h4x0r when you get your rube goldberg machine of leaky netbios requests set up only to use netcat to pipe six different proxies between one another in an attempt to feel more secure (none of this would tunnel dns requests by default btw).

>>106158469
ssh -D <port number> over wireguard is the easiest but wireguard is written in C and that's the devil's language. So try using Hyphanet which is written in Java which is the most secure language because only the upper-caste brahmin are allowed to use it.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:44:59 AM No.106158628
>>106157811
With RSA private keys, you can get 4096 and be safe for the remainder of your life from realistic quantum attacks, but you can also get 256ECDSA for a comparable RSA 3072 bit and that's already an accepted standard in basically every SSH or VPN solution out there. Use P-384 and you're safe basically forever.

>Isn't ECDSA using the P-256 curve the one that NSA compromised?
That's P-256's random number generator which no one uses. Not even puTTY. I don't even think it got past the implementation stage because of the shady way NIST accepted it. It's long deprecated and if you use P-384 on ECDSA, those same random number generator magic numbers no longer apply even if you use the same parameters.

>what about quantum computing
What about rainbows and lollipops and other imaginary things that exist in futureland? As previously discussed, pre-shared keys are the magic bullet that defeat crypto decryption in all of its forms. The PQC upgrades are good if you do not have the means to create pre-shared keys, but are not deployed in all software and people still disagree on which ones are going to be the standard, like two months ago Google just gave their awards out to the best ones.

Or you can make a jenga tower of KEX like OP to make simple SSH connections when tunneling it is always the more secure and simpler solution.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:04:50 AM No.106158729
>>106157792 (OP)
>as they're all written in garbage lower level languages like C/C++/Go (and that includes OpenVPN and Wireshark) and lack full tunnel control.
so what do you recommend, OP?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:16:30 AM No.106158787
>resistant to quantum computers
quantum computers are barely more powerful than a commodore 64 and won't be on the level of modern binary computer for years, stop falling for the hypemen
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:23:56 AM No.106158821
>schizophrenic with strong opinions about things he barely understands ala buzzwords
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:35:12 AM No.106158886
>>106158528
what's wrong with C btw?
>Java which is the most secure language
Is that why they use it for hyphanet and i2p?

Also how does the choice of language effect security?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:36:52 AM No.106158894
>>106158448
>please spoonfeed me teach me all of it
No.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:37:21 AM No.106158896
>>106157792 (OP)
>lower level languages like C/C++/Go
kek, you probably had some people convinced for a second
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:40:53 AM No.106158913
>>106158894
not him but why not share knowledge and make things easier for others to learn? If you wanna push a point of view, the way to get more people on board is to help them learn what you're pushing.
I never understood online elitism.
>X is far superior
>Where can I learn more?
>not gonna spoonfeed you
then you niggers cry about how the world is going to shit 'cause no one is adopting the shit you're peddling.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:41:54 AM No.106158922
>>106158896
are they not low level languages? Don't know about Go desu, but C is always described as such, no?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:49:44 AM No.106158971
>>106158288
>>106158247
and what happens when somebody finds it and configures it to log your ip when you connect so they can give it to the police/fbi?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:50:47 AM No.106158978
>>106158922
Go is fucking garbage collected.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:03:20 AM No.106159041
Meds, now schizo
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:04:53 AM No.106159049
>>106158971
I'll connect to it with a vpn
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:06:16 AM No.106159057
>>106159049
actually you can tamper proof it with a gyro sensor. it gets moved = burned
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:05:08 AM No.106159365
>>106157792 (OP)
Nah I don't know how. Still using ProtonVPN.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:40:22 AM No.106159881
>>106159057
>someone walks by
>burned
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:33:43 AM No.106160189
>>106157792 (OP)
You goddamn retarded shill nigger. What happens if you pirate with your diy vpn? Still get fucked because you own the server you god damn cum guzzling 12yo disgusting subhuman nigger scum
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:40:13 AM No.106160222
>>106157792 (OP)
At this rate just throw out everything electronic built after 1974 if you're so paranoid. If someone wants to track what you do they'll do it anyway, it's only a matter of if they give a shit about you or not.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:49:49 AM No.106160275
>>106160222
>he thinks analog is safe
You can get into direct contact with FBI just by accidentally transmitting something on a wrong frequency in a wrong place.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:55:29 AM No.106160307
>>106160275
>b-b-but analog is unsafe!!!
Yes, so is digital. My point is no matter what you try you're already fucked, so why bother? Glowies will get you even if you live in a cabin in the woods without electricity.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:00:54 AM No.106160340
>>106160307
No they won't, nobody cares if you live in a cabin in the woods. At least here in my white man's country, I can go to a forest and do almost anything I want, the only thing I cannot do is chop down wood for winter if my house isn't in the forest. I can use as much wood as I need for local campfires as long as I leave the ash in the forest too.
It's one simple rule of not removing any material from the forest and obviously not just randomly cutting down every single tree I see. It would only cause problems if I hunted my own food, because animals already have a hard time surviving on what's left out of the forests due to commercialniggers doing the opposite of what I wrote, because after all, it's ok to destroy entire ecosystems as long as you got a loicense.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:00:59 AM No.106160342
>>106160189
I don't need a vpn to pirate. Imagine living in a cuck country where pirating is illegal.