>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues still reported; update BIOS before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>106123743

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106161520

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: Q4 '25 rumored launch, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

I have decided to piss on my PC till it fries. It has failed me too many times.

If Linux is 30% faster than Windows now then whats stopping you?

>>106168197
I don't want to emulate Revit and Civil 3D which I use for my job

This kills the AMD

>>106168197
What makes you think I'm not?

>>106168197
It's not "30% faster" but I am on it anyway due to privacy schizophrenia + shitdows is AIDS to use as a power user

US President Donald Trump met Wednesday with Nvidia Corp. Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang at the White House, as he readies sweeping new tariffs on semiconductor imports.

Trump says there will be a 100% tariff on all semiconductors entering the US
TRUMP ON TARIFFS:

SAYS U.S. WILL IMPOSE “VERY LARGE TARIFF” ON CHIPS AND SEMICONDUCTORS.

WE WILL BE PUTTING IN 100% TARIFF ON ALL CHIPS.

NOTES THERE WILL BE NO CHARGE FOR COMPANIES BUILDING OR COMMITTING INVESTMENT IN THE UNITED STATES.


Trump has that "I don't trust this snake" look. You also see it on Shark Tank.

>>106168197
Can't be bothered to fuck around and do homework to open adobe stuff

>>106168221
>>106168315
So how long until he cucks out again?

>>106168393
https://youtu.be/B9qts_1YARM?t=519

>>106168221
>>106168315
>Companies that are in the process of moving manufacturing into the United States won't be charged
Borderline nothingburger / complete nothingburger

>>106168421
Last I checked nobody has the fucking TSMC machines in America otherwise Intel would be making better chips right now.

>>106168438
https://www.tsmc.com/static/abouttsmcaz/index.htm

>in the process of moving
They don't have to all be there, so long as they can put on paper that they are moving production

>>106168458
>Arizona
and you think they can meet WORLDWIDE demand?

>>106168472
You are missing the entire point. If a company is making any effort at all to move production to America, then they will be tariff exempt.

fun fact: there is literally nothing worth playing that doesnt work on 8gb vram

>>106168564
6gb still gets literally every game at least playable
4gb was hanging in there until the second half of last year

>>106168492
I'm sure TSMC is making a effort but Nvidia isn't TSMC.

Games don't even look any better than they did 10 years ago so what is even taking up all the VRAM these days?

Is it worth it to get one of the gpu backside coolers for an rx 6900 xt? My hotspots been killing me lately

>>106168652
jewish electricity goblins in the GPU

>>106168652
lumen nanite ue5

>>106168652
I have come to the conclusion that the progress made in the last 3 years or so is bigger than the progress made from the late 2000s/early 2010s to then, but only if you have an Nvidia gpu

>XFX SPEEDSTER MERC 310 AMD Radeon™ RX 7900
>2x 8GB G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200
>Ryzen 7 3700x
>Wraith Prism cooler that came with the CPU
>RM1000x Corsair power supply
>1x Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD MZ-V7S 500gb
>1x Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM008 2 TB
>various fans that friends gave for free
What should I upgrade? I'm only playing cyberpunk atm and it runs fine.

>>106168813
>runs fine
so upgrade nothing?

>100% tarrif
Post YFW waitfags

>>106168813
the only thing I would consider upgrading is the RAM to 2x16 GB or 2x32GB, otherwise ride that build out until shit doesn't run fine

>>106168813
>runs fine.
Just bored or whats the reason for an upgrade?
If it was mine I'd want to get rid of that 3700x first. Don't think I would go to a new socket after this long, might as well wait for am6 or nova lake, or not since things move slow enough that am4 will be viable for another decade.

Threadly recitation of the Radeonman's Creed #1
>This is my Radeon. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
>My Radeon is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
>My Radeon, without me, is useless. Without my Radeon, I am useless. I must OC my Radeon high. I must score higher than the nvidiot who is trying to outscore me. I must burn his connector before he burns me. I will...
>My Radeon and I know that what counts in this war is not the benchmarks we run, the noise of our fans, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the score that counts. We will score...
>My Radeon is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its voltages and its clocks. I will keep my Radeon clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
>Before Lisa, I swear this creed. My Radeon and I are the defenders of AMD. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
>So be it, until victory is AMD's and there is no enemy, but peace!

this is actually the end btw, i hope you bought pc parts already

>>106168921
nothing ever happens

>>106168928
maybe if you're retarded and never had any money to buy pc parts in the first place, sure

>>106168921
what happened

>>106168951
>>106168221
the orange retard is going after your chips specifically now

it's his last ditch effort to get chip makers to come to the US

>>106168874
Sort of feels like I'm bottle necking my GPU with all of my older components.

>>106168871
>>106168951
Trump implementing a 100% tarrif on imported semiconductors, personally going out of his way to BRUTALLY murder and RAPE waitFAGS.
Always bet on the Aryans, we're literally overpowered and 100% of the time win in the end no matter what.

Im a bit of a tard and I cant make sense of all the options when it comes to monitors. I am seeing that oled monitors/screens are good enough at this point, whats a serviceable 27 inch option? Im not a l33t gamer a regular 144hz would work...

>>106169014
just get one of the 27" 4k 240hz oleds from asus/gigabyte/samsung/etc

>>106168986
You probably are unless you're at 4k or playing UE5 games.
But who cares, if it works it works.

>>106168958
>it's his last ditch effort to get chip makers to come to the US
They are already here
Samsung is here
TSMC is here
This is more about having these companies expand production rather than just minimizing their existence.
Companies are spared provided they are investing and expanding facilities

>>106169118
all the American facilities are a joke and everyone is aware of that

>>106169124
Shut up chink

>>106169124
TSMC Arizona is pretty gud actually

>>106169139
That's chang to you

>>106168921
I just want affordable 5070ti super for 1440p gaming and 24gb vram for AI slopping
>>106169014
Just pic something from rtings recommended gaming monitors.
No one here will handhold you too much when your request is vague like that.

>>106169150
>good
>maybe possibly making 2nm chips in 2027 that are more expensive than taiwan made chips
don't kid yourself

>>106169014
Unlike with LCDs there is an extremely narrow range of difference in the performance of one OLED to another. Your biggest choice to make is do you want 1440p or 4K?
1440p is cheaper ($485):
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG276QZD2-Tournament-2560x1440-Compatible/dp/B0D682HF6R

4K is sharper and has no color fringing @ 27" unlike the 1440p options ($708):
https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-QD-OLED-Gaming-Monitor-AW2725Q/dp/B0F148HG5M
That's it, that's the beginning and end of all there is to the market right now. You can pay more for different models but they won't be appreciably any different that these two buckets of panels.

>>106169163
I'm a brainlet but how big of a difference is 24gb of vram over 16gb for AI stuff?

>>106169170
More expensive doesn't matter much when it's high value chips.
You're not talking double or anything

once you go 4k 27" @ 150% scaling you can never go back

i want to witness 27" 6k just once before i die

>>106169243
yes yes anon when the 13850x3d is $1000 from us fabs will you still be sucking trumps cock??

>>106169272
Cheap chips will be manufactured by enslaved Canadians in Burnaby, prices will come down.

last thread is dying so once again, noob question here, is the Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK a good option for a ryzen 7700x?, I'll upgrade my pc to use it at 1440p, I'm not sure of AIO's, and that one is at very reasonable prize, I can't get thermaltake meme'd in the op, tarifs place it at the same price of the cheapest noctua in my country.

>>106169300
Id buy noctua instead
at least then girls wont be disgusted by the cooler

>>106169237
A lot.
>Can run 30B caliber models without needing heavy quantization
>Can run stuff like WAN video gen without chunking quants, resulting in faster gens
>Have access to larger batches, therefore faster training when finetuning models or loras.
etc. etc.
It opens a lot of possibilities.
Can never have too much vram for AI.

>>106169319
can the latest dropped models actually interact with my system or is it just limited to web searches and shit? for example if i tell it to compile some code or launch applications, will it do it?

>>106169319
I was hoping to upgrade this fall and at least kind of future proof shit.
OH WELL. Time to WAIT a few more months.
Or I'll continue being a poorfag and hope for discounts on regular 5070tis

>>106169300
I have the AK400, it works fine for 7600 non x. At worst you might need a modest power limit.
AIOs are a meme for most uses cases.

>>106169313
noctua is faggot tier

>>106169272
They'll jack the price to $1000 anyway if they feel they can get people to pay for it.

The seething over what trump is doing annoys the fuck out of me because you let corpos jack up prices over the last few years without even a hint of restraint when it comes to buying.

best way to create a backup of my linux pc before installing updates, in case they break amf gpu acceleration yet again?

>>106169329
You need some extra effort to set up search for locals but it can be done. I am not fully sure about "agentic" use like that, but I believe it should be possible.
I will be honest, I use API for serious work, I use locals mostly for gooning.
>>106169335
Rumor in the streets is that Super refresh with extra vram will launch Q4 this year but no one knows for sure.

>>106169369
Make disk image and save it to external hdd or whatever.

>>106169379
is there a braindead guide to get this stuff working? i have a 5090 so i want to dig into this stuff at some point

>>106169391
which program is best? do you uh boot to a usb stick to restore? literally never did this since like win xp days

linux amd gpu acceleration drivers are like windows 95 tier

>>106169393
Most of the AI generals in this board have rentries to get you started with various shit. You can try them.
I have been following AI space on and off since abstract schizo GAN hallucination art days. I don't recall how I got into it.

>>106168564
We would be playing with a thriving local AI-ware ecosystem right now if consumer VRAM were high enough.
Instead it’s just the same handful of devs playing musical chairs at billion dollar tech companies who are the ones who get access to the VRAM (and they do basically fuck all with it)

>>106169369
rsync, btrfs snapshot, etc
AMF isn't even supported on linux anymore
>>106169416
the proprietary drivers definitely are, stop using them

>>106169416
I use Macrium Reflect on hiren boot cd.
Though probably an outdated method at this point, been working for me for years.
You can also try installing your system on btrfs next time and try snapshots. (or with lvm)

>>106169272
It will be whatever price people are willing to pay for it.
Tariffs attack margin, not price. Price is decided by demand, not tariffs.
Literally every tariff complainer was wrong, lmao.

>>106169379
Oh well, worst case I buy a 9700x and wait to get a gpu later, my 1080 will survive, barely

>hiren
HOLY SHIT A WALKING FOSSIL

any tips for building a pc with 8 h200s in it

>>106169513
yeah
gimme one and build yours with 7

>>106169513
get a big case

>>106169513
Robbing a bank beforehand may help.

Is the 5700X3D even worth it anymore now that the days of it being cheap on Aliexpress are over?
I'm thinking that I could grab a tray 5700X for less than half price, then just use it at 1440p to minimise the impact of the CPU (but someone tell me if I'm being retarded)
Context being that I've got an old AM4 build lying around and want to get a bit of use out of it, maybe give it away.

>>106169432
short chuck's

>>106169369
What's wrong with ffmpeg vaapi? Well, besides OBS' AV1 looking like shit.

>>106169463
>lvm
i think i did this. i am using full disk encryption.

>>106169563
wrong reply

>>106169536
Nope.
Honestly just give it away or sell it second hand and make a new build if you think you are not getting enough out of it as is.
Upgrading dead am4 platform in 2025 is a poorfag cope and a reddit meme. Just save money and build something new.

>>106169564
Then you can RTFM about how to use LVM snapshots https://documentation.suse.com/en-us/sles/12-SP5/html/SLES-all/cha-lvm-snapshots.html and use this as a backup (technically it is not a backup but might function well enough as one in your case)

>>106169597
it's not a real backup?

>>106169536
the cheapest and most effective option is to buy a 5700X, unlock the power limits and overclock your RAM

did waitcucks lose yet
it's been almost 6 months

>>106169675
they lost when aibs started increasing prices of gpus by like 75%
they're about to lose again when these new tariffs go into effect

>>106169682
>he doubts celestial 1tb vam $20

>>106169570
>>106169648
Yeah, I think that's enough to convince me, spending almost 200 bongbux on a dead platform would be retarded.
I'll just grab that 5700X since it's so cheap it might as well be free, then upgrade everything a bit later.

>>106169675
waiting is about the journey, not the destination
if the thing you were waiting for turns out to be prohibitively expensive, it just means that you were in reality waiting for something different that has yet to reveal itself

>>106169718
Maybe consider non x too since it is just a stopgap, depending on price where you are.
Here around Europe 5700 non x goes for almost 3 times cheaper than 5700x3d

>>106169536
i boughted it from a non-meme store before every single price skyrocketed so no, its a (you) issue now

>>106168871
I've been waiting since 2014, this is nothing to me. Not even a blip on the radar, we play the game on a timescale you normalfags can't even comprehend.

>>106169772
Oh fuck I forgot the BS AMD pulled with that one, IGNORE THIS!

>>106169772
Seems like my old 3600X still sells for £50 (Who's buying that shit used for £50? That's retarded), and the 5700X I just got went for £80, so I'm feeling pretty good about that.
>>106169791
Well... now that I missed out on the 5700X3D I have a good excuse to build a whole new PC in a few months/a year! Who's laughing now?

I'm thinking of just using my 5800X3D forever and never ever ever upgrading
I bet it won't ever disappoint me

>>106169432
trvke

Cool, more stupid ass tariffs. Ordered a 9600x as I was already planning on getting one. Not really certain what the timing or actual impact will be but might as well

>>106170003
I believe tsmc made products will be exempted
GPUs having many other parts on board will probably get impacted though

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106170003
TACO will happen again

>>106170078
i wonder why

>>106170078
what buck breaks someone so badly that it causes them to constantly spam this?

Bot? Shill? Mental illness?
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/Req1Zuzilo2iQQJbhVBOMw/
You decide!

>>106170121
Its nicotroon

>>106170116
I was wondering the same thing. Definitely NEET status. Probable schizo too.

>>106170055
okay, good. guess I can always return it if things blow over. this was the planned CPU for a new build, but was still toying with other ideas.

>>106170085
almost certainly

>>106170121
:[

i think he's really mad at nvi doa

Hmm, maybe it's time to replace this

Welp. Brand new rtx 5060 and this is what happens everytime I install the driver. Guess Im switching to 9060 XT.

he's had it, he's switching to the 9070. he has alzheimers and has a stack of unopened boxes by the door

>>106170303
Return/RMA?

Hello
>BUDGET
Max $5,000 AUD, but lower is obviously better
>COUNTRY
Australia
>SPECS
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Gigabyte AERO OC SFF GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card
Phanteks ECLIPSE G500A DRGB ATX Mid Tower Case
SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Titan Army P27A2R
AOC Q27G3XMN

Gaming, AI image/video generation, general use. Considering waiting for a 5080 Super for the additional VRAM.

>>106170363
I think you can do better monitors in this budget.

>>106170363
27GX700A monitor should release soon

get a 2tb 9100 nvme
get an aio water cooler for the cpu
fractal north xl case

>>106170360
its anti nvidia spam

>>106170407
God damn it, I lurk this thread to try and offer help to real people.

>>106170427
ask moot to do something that increases the amount of real people on the site relative to bots

I'm running a 2070 at 1440 and more recent games are starting to make me motion sick with fps drops and stuttering, even on low.

Is there a decent budget stopgap option here or would I be retarded to not just wait and see what the new 50 series leaks are going to end up as?

>>106170506
use frame gen

>>106170522
20 series can't use fg

>>106170545
amd fg
lossless scaling

>>106170363
Really overpaying for things like the cooler, case, and NVME. This is my suggestion for sames-spec alternatives for less money (and double SSD capacity):
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QsJhpK
Since you've got the budget for it I'd recommend a 4K QD-OLED (this model comes with DisplayPort 2.1 so you're less reliant on DSC for a full-bandwidth signal):
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/sj2j4D/msi-mpg-272urx-qd-oled-270-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-mpg-272urx-qd-oled
And since you'll be dabbling in AI-generation, I do strongly recommend you wait on the Super refresh of the 5080.

>>106168813
don't fix if it ain't broken.

>>106170613
>just cheap out on a no-name ssd, its not like you don't have a backup, right?

I think my memory is corrupted but i dont want to buy more memory

>>106170681
why is that Oscar?

>>106170632
Well yes, you should have a backup because paying more for a "brand name" model purchase you nothing in terms of any added guarantee of reliability. For end users the only real upgrades under the hood is going with TLC NAND over QLC for higher theoretical endurance (though in practice it's not a huge jump) and a DRAM chip and with modern HBM-based drives the latter doesn't even really offer much benefit when they can borrow some system RAM to create a pseudo-cache anyway.

But if >>106170363 really wants to pay more for an NVME there's still this which meets the above conditions without paying the Samsung tax:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/kbwmP6/msi-spatium-m480-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-s78-440q600-p83

I haven't built a computer in 10 years and I'm getting major sticker shock when it comes to GPU prices, is it really 500 dollars+ for a midrange card?

>>106170566
FG seems to make my frames even less consistent. My one attempt to use lossless scaling resulted in vaseline screen. Maybe I need to revisit it and figure it out better

>>106170726
inflation plus rising silicon prices will do that

>>106170698
my games sometimes crash and my memory sticks are intel XMP optimized not AMD EXPO optimized

in the bios it lets you select different profiles but i've tried them all and my games still crash sometimes

>>106170742
run a memory test like memtest86

>>106170727
you should feel less visual issues as the image is smoother most of the time
amd frame gen is better quality as it should take into account stuff like UI elements and motion vectors.
>The OptiScaler app by High Yield makes FSR 4 work in any game that supports Nvidia's DLSS 2 (or later) or Intel's XeSS. Additionally, it can enable Frame Generation in games that don't support it, and it can even add anti-lag support through Nvidia Reflex technologies.

>>106170754
okay ty anon i will try that again

>>106168995
Will computer parts get cheaper for other parts of the world since amerilards cannot import them?
>Is it the age of the brown?

>you only need 32gb of ram
I'll be getting 64gb because I wanna

>>106170784
prices will probably just rise slower

>>106170784
in theory yes but in practice probably not

my PC crashes 2-3 times after the 1st boot of the day and will freeze if left afk (ive checked power settings). after that unless idle it never crashes

9800x3d
5090

any ideas?

>>106170792
poorcucks who have to optimise out every dollar will never know how good it feels to go overkill just because you can

>>106170816
ram
run memtest

>>106170816
What are your temps? Might shut off if you aren't getting good cooling

>>106170792
it's hard to gauge since applications will just reserve more RAM if available, but my modded rimworld install kinda needs more than 32

>>106170825
will try this

>>106170831
temps are good

>>106170394
>>106170401
>>106170613
>>106170717
Thank you all very much for the feedback - I fully expected this would be the "first draft" - I built my PC in 2015 so I'm well out of date with more granular detail than I was back then. This is all very helpful.

>>106170816
windows error logs?
event viewer ?

>>106170821
>>106170843
I make decent enough money now and I remember not being able to do things in the past as a kid on my shitty laptop due to ram and storage. I will be getting enough ram and maybe a second ssd

>>106170469
Who the hell is moot?

I have a 3060 Ti and I'm sticking with 1080p, so does that mean there's no reason to ever upgrade it until like the 6060 Ti or the 7060 Ti? Yes, I don't need anything better right now, but in a hypothetical scenario, upgrading to the 5060 Ti would be kind of fucking dog shit right now, yeah?

>>106170850
it would be pointless to explain

>>106170850
It's OK newfag, you will learn one day

>>106170850
trolling is a art

>>106170855
The 6060 is going to be like, 40 class performance if nvidia's die cutting trends continue.

>>106170855
If you're happy with your frames and performance on your settings there's no reason to change. I'd only make a move if you wanna go up a tier to good 1440p

>>106170855
yeah, don't upgrade
when you need to upgrade, you'll know because there'll be something you want your computer to do that it won't be able to do

>>106170816
I second memory instability. You should post your full specs and any settings you have done in BIOS. Basic Expo settings, or stock even?Curious that it crashes on idle rather than on load. Alternatives like AIDA64 will also work.

>>106170855
I wouldn't upgrade unless its for at least 50% more performance, preferably double
going to a 5060ti would be like 30%

>>106170855
As rule of thumb don't even bother asking if you are satisfied with the performance.
You will know when you need it.

>>106170855
You see, with Nvidia you get the privilege of being able to comfortably wait for 2-3+ generations before upgrading. You will almost certainly get access to DLSS5 and Neural Textures to help keep your GPU relevant too, in case you fall on hard times by then.

When will GPUs actually be powerful enough to hit native 4K 120 fps no framegen on games in 2025 and before?

>>106170926
Remember when they said the 3090 could run 8k? Now we're begging for 4k because game optimization is dead

>>106168046 (OP)
>tranime pc

>>106170948
>>105076689

>>106170938
It can run 8K... in games made 20 years before it was released (and indieshit ofc)

>>106170855
the 5070 super is the lowest upgrade i would consider. when it comes out

>>106170868
>>106170877
>>106170878
>>106170887
>>106170908
>>106170917
>>106170988
Understood, I appreciate the answers. I figured it was something like this. If it's not gonna be a substantial upgrade by a genuinely impressive amount, then to hell with that. I'll just wait a few years before bothering with a potential upgrade. Now I'm gonna go play some shit from 25 years ago anyways.

https://wccftech.com/amd-gutted-by-china-gpu-ban-posts-q2-operating-loss/
AMDsissies…

>>106171066
We are tremendously hyper-fucked....

How are we doing fellow americans? Happy to see all our hadware just doubled in price+operational costs? so it's about 220% now +10% store comission. congratulations!

>>106170917
I feel pretty comfortable on 7900XT right now. And will be fine for another 2-3 years.

>Tfw no AMD GPU driver updates in months
I cry evrytiem.

>>106171202
sure feels like we're winning...
>AHYAA

>>106171260
it just came out yesterday, what are you on about?

>>106171260
But Mesa 25.2 just released. Or 25.3 if you're brave enough to run the git build!

>>106171202
I better get my cou soon then

>>106171276
Oh nice, I stand corrected. Thanks, anon.

I have an old Dell inspiron 5565 laptop I want to get back up and running. There any parts or upgrades I can put in it to modernize the thing?

>>106171208
*presses the raytracing button

>>106171380
works fine in modern games, the only hard game to run is 2077 PT, and I don't like how it looks, normal RT is better in it

Getting a free 9800x3d, any recommendations on a motherboard? OP just says not asrock.

Gentleman, can somebody spoonfeed me?
Building around a Lian Li x Dan Cases A3

Can I please have some help choosing

7800X3D vs 9800X3D, is it worth the extra money?
Which AIO do I choose
Which PSU will fit
What memory to choose price/performance
How do I mount my two 3.5" HDD's, do I need to buy an external DAS/HDD enclosure
I am keeping my 3080 for at least a few more years.

FUCK! LIFE IS SHIT! MY PC ISN'T EVEN TURNING ON!

>>106171506
Asus tuf b850 is what I have

>>106171519
turn psu on
does mobo have error leds

Playing it on Intel Arc.

>>106171517
>>106171517
>Dan A3
>3.5" HDD
just...no

>>106171517
Wont look into case specifics but:
>7800X3D vs 9800X3D, is it worth the extra money?
Yes
>Which AIO do I choose
Liquid freezer that fits, honestly an air cooler can be fine too if you are willing to power limit it a bit.
>Which PSU will fit
Case specs should tell you max PSU size. And then PSUs themselves tell you their sizes. From there, you can do the math.
>What memory to choose price/performance
2x16 6000 CL30 Corsair or Gskill is the boilerplate response to this question.
>How do I mount my two 3.5" HDD's, do I need to buy an external DAS/HDD enclosure
I am certain that shit won't fit there so yes. If you want hdds, why not get a bigger case though?
>I am keeping my 3080 for at least a few more years.
Good for you. Make sure its under GPU max size for that case. Also that it is not too thick.

>>106171506
If you just want the cheapest no-frills board that will get the job done without any problems (but still have things like USB 3.2 & Wifi) this model for $135 would be my selection:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi


If you've like a more midrange board with extra NVME slots for expand-ability this model by GB for ~$20 would be my splurge pick:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax

Check the VRM tests of HUB's roundups:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUVW7wgR3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naX-DnKekCM

>>106171611
hm, did you inject something or used ini config? looks cleaner than base game

>>106171506
Out of curiosity where did you get it from?

>>106171743
NTA but you can easily change most games' looks with reshade.

>>106171758
resahde breaks lighting most of the time, especially with "realistic" looks
looks great on screenshots but trash in specific areas

What's the best possible panel I can get if I don't want an OLED because of the inevitable burn-in?

I fried my nvme port by not bolting the ssd down
>Other port is occupied
what should i do? Are NVMe to PCIe adapters any good?

how stable is 9700xt on gah-noo linux right now?

>>106171769
Wdym? It's usually just some color post-processing and maybe some sharpen/blur/AA filters if you want.
It shouldn't be "breaking lighting". Honestly, sound like a skill issue on your part setting filters correctly if it does that lol.

>>106171784
Probably a 4K miniled with at least 144hz.
XV275K P3 is my vote (you can get a refurbed one for under $300), OP recommends KTC M27P6.

But if money isn't an issue, just go with whatever oled you want and either warranty it or buy a new one when it burns in. Most modern oleds take 1-3 years before you notice.

>>106171743
Yup i use custom config for every unreal engine game:
r.FilmGrain=0
r.Tonemapper.Sharpen=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.SceneColorFringe.Max=0
sdk.DisableCutsceneCA=1
r.Tonemapper.GrainQuantization=0
r.Tonemapper.Quality=0
r.Vignette=0
>taa fix
r.TemporalAACurrentFrameWeight=0.5
r.MaxAnisotropy=16

>>106168046 (OP)
bros i fucking did it
i repadded my 3090 strix with LTP81 thermal putty and the vram runs about 25C cooler, topping out at about 88C under 2 minutes of 470W draw
and the gpu can sustain 470W of constant power draw up from 430W because of vram/vrm throttling in the past

>>106171843
the gpu is sitting cold and quiet now

>>106171803
I slapped a -100mV undervolt on my 9070 with LACT the day I got it and haven't had a single game crash so far for what it's worth. Using mesa git.

>>106171843
Probably MoE performance improvement going from 430 to 470, but good job on temps.
>>106171858
Overclocked ram?

>>106171843
good job!

>>106171867
vram is bone stock. it runs really toasty prior to this, always around 96-104C under load
>>106171868
thanks anon, it was really tough and took about 3 hours in total

>>106171863
Nice
I've seen someone complaining about crashes cause it's boosting incorrectly or some shit, but that was a few months ago. Guess I'll try it out.

>>106171867
>Overclocked ram?
oh if you mean system ram then yeah, its OC'd bdie on a 10900k
things are a mess in there but doesnt matter since its a solid side panel case

>>106171883
What did you do to need the fan? Cranked up voltage? High trefi?

>>106171880
Yeah, certain 9070 XT models when undervolted are able to boost so high they hit a ceiling and crash. I think if that happens then reducing the max clock until it doesn't is all you need to do?

Are crypto miners still partly to blame for gpu pricing

>>106171883
low trfc and high trefi
also the fan is mostly there to keep ram temps under control when the gpu is under full 400W load since b-die is very sensitive to heat

>>106171903
We're in the AI boom now, buddy.

>>106171913
But ai sucks ass

>>106171903
No mining has been dead for three years. Only select few enthusiasts do it.
It's:
Greed
Post covid inflation
Moore's Law dying and cheap gains getting very difficult
AI demand
Trump's autism
Not necessarily in order

>>106171920
@grok is this true

>>106171834
>1-3 years
>for a 800$ screen or more
Top fucking kek, I want at least 7 years. I used my 1080pTN60hz for 10

>>106171908
Thanks that makes sense. Never owned b-die though, so what do you mean by "very sensitive to heat" precisely here?

>>106171937
agreed
I only recently gave my 9 years old MG279Q to my dad and it still works perfectly well

>>106171939
for this particular kit, the difference between 50C and 54C at its 4000cl14 1.55v xmp determines whether it's stable or throws errors within 3 minutes

>>106171784
>What's the best possible panel I can get if I don't want an OLED because of the inevitable burn-in?
You'll want a 4K 27" panel to maximize PPI/PPD sharpness and text clarity and MiniLED-based to maximuze brightness (both of which are the weaknesses of OLED so you maximize LCD's strengths if you are forgo those of OLED).

For all-around performance using IPS probably either the XV275K P3, Xiaomi 27i, or KTC M27P6
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/acer-nitro-xv275k-p3biipruzx-vs-xiaomi-g-pro-27i/39860/71604
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27p6-review/

If you value pseudo-OLED contrast at the cost of viewing angles and some black smearing using VA the Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 S32BG85 (though PPI will be worse @ 32" and it's curved):
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85

Thanks for the precise data point.

>>106171992
not anon, and very good information, but what are some okay 32" IPS alternatives (assuming you recommend them at all)

Upgrade 7950X3D to 9950X3D?
Using 4090FE / 64GB 3600 mhz ram

>>106172026
if you enjoy wasting money, sure

>>106172026
Only reason I could see that being justified is if your (paid) work involves a lot of AVX512.

>>106172087
if that were the case he should be upgrading to a zen 5 threadripper

>>106172090
Yeah true.

>>106172026
>7950X3D
>3600 mhz ram
hmm

>>106171784
it's funny that there's no ultimate monitor; all the panels on the market right now require compromise in some area.
So it depends on what you are going to use it for and value the most.
probably https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/mini-led
is all you got. OLED won the panel wars and when tandem oled come out for monitors lcd screens will only be available for super cheap throw away office panels.

What are some musts to do to keep the 9800x3D from frying?

>>106172169
jsut be confident

>>106172169
do not use an assrock boards for starters

>>106172169
dont insert the cpu sideways
dont use the affected asrock bioses

>>106172180
oh no
>>106172184
>>106172185
Done, I don't need to do anything in bios to tune down on limits or undervolting?

>>106172010
>not anon, and very good information, but what are some okay 32" IPS alternatives (assuming you recommend them at all)
I don't for the hit to pixel density and therefore sharpness (@ 32" you ideally want 5K+) but if the larger size is more your comfort then:
The LG 32GR93U-B or LG 32GQ950-B in terms of overall panel spec/tuning or possibly the Acer Predator X32 FP
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/acer-predator-x32-fp/
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-32gr93u-b-vs-lg-32gq950-b/40717/33379

If you don't mind 60Hz (read little to no gaming) then I recommend the ASUS ProArt Display PA27JCV or Apple Studio Display both 5K:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/asus-proart-display-pa27jcv-vs-apple-studio-display/81301/32280

>>106172010
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/acer-predator-xb323qx-unveiled-with-a-5k-ips-panel-dual-mode-and-g-sync-pulsar

just get a tandem oled. These ips panels are going to have bad motion blurring, shit contrast, and ips glow.

>>106172193
i think i remember some cases where the user went full nigger oc on the dimms and could have fried the cpus, but now not a sngle non-assorck case comes to mind, maybe you should lurk around a little

my 3600x just works

>>106172114
Fuck. That's not my ram speed. It's 2am in the morning. It's like 6000.

>>106172169
Don't ever show it fear, always looking it directly in the eyes and show it you are the boss.

>>106172193
my computer runs a 9800x3d and taichi and has been expo + pbo since like feb and its chilling dont fall for the memes

>>106172142
>OLED won the panel wars
6 months on OLED, never going back.
But I didn't sell my old IPS monitor, just in case.

>>106172299
>6 months
Nice, you have about 6 months left before you can get a new one!

>>106172315
bullshit, people who used tvs as monitor for years didn't get burnin I using it at 25 brightness will get it in 6 years at worst

>>106172321
>TVs
No shit, those displays are constantly changing scenes unlike PC monitors.

>>106171837
stealing that because I like this sharp look, I usually just RCAS with optiscaler and FSR with overridden x1.0 upscaling ratio which is a Native AA option if game doesn't have it, looks very clean

>>106172331
as monitors, retard

>>106172299
>>106172331
I keep telling anyone who will listen to keep their current LCD and VESA mount the sumbeach on a $20 monitor arm for quickly toggle over to for desktop work & browsing static content and buy an OLED to swap back over to for dynamic content like videos/gaming and it'll last 8-10 years E-Z.

>>106172169
>What are some musts to do to keep the 9800x3D from frying?
avoid placing it into a pan with oil atop your stove

>>106172356
wypepo don' season dey ryzens

AM6 announced, PCIe 6.0/DDR6 in 2027ish. worth the wait for AM4lets, less than 2 years.

should I buy some SOVL

>>106172399
is zen6 still on AM5?

>>106169479
>Tariffs attack margin, not price. Price is decided by demand, not tariffs.
Retard

>>106172510
you should burn 150 euros in front of an arab, would be a better waste of money

>>106172521
ye. zen7 will be on AM6.

>>106172399
>2027ish
They said 2028. Still a long way out.

>>106172510
sure why not
just prepare to repad and repaste the gpu since its ancient and double sided memory runs hot

>>106172539
zen6 will come out next year I think, won't stay for more than 1 year.

>>106172530
if AM6 is 2027, when is zen6? 2nm in theory can be ready by early 2026 I guess

>>106172539
>Still a long way out.
not really. my 5900X is not that far from 9900X, not even double in most things. for general gaming it's absolutely fine, worth the wait. and I'll properly feel the upgrade to AM6.

>>106172399
am6 comes out in 2028

>>106172560
next year from what some were saying

>>106172555
>since its ancient
wasn't 2016, like, yesterday?

>>106172570
nope, 2027
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2712214-1-1.html
not the only place saying it

>>106172577
welcome to adult life when 10 years feels like a week

>>106172577
manufacturers put paste and pads that degrade within 2 years so

>>106172582
>AMD announces the launch of ZEN6 2026, and the ZEN7 2027

>>106172585
we're gonna live for thousands of years, hell yeah

>>106172563
Three years is a shitload of time, anon.
If your 5900 was good enough, you wouldn't even care about upgrading at all. The fact that we're having this discussion at all is proof that you're already feeling the edge.
You really plan on feeling that edge for three more years? If it's this bad now, it's only going to get worse. And then it'll only be two years, or one year, and it'll be even harder for you to justify getting out.

>>106172594
nah, it just means your life is over in 4 weeks

>>106172582
they can release server chips using a zen7, architecture before they release am6
2028 is more likely as they need other people to roll out ddr6 first and its just a roadmap anyway

>>106172595
1.5 years from now. that's nothing to keep my 5900X lmao, get real.
your AM5 slop is not worth the money, people on AM4 are better off waiting it out under 2 years from now.

>>106172614
keep seething on your expensive AM5 purchase, you got scammed.

>>106172629
this website is 1st worlder, 18+, sane people who werent seuxally abused as kids only

I'm more interested in 2nm GPU gens. When is UDNA? When is whatever name nvidia next gen?

>>106172638
>no argument
keep enjoying your 8 GPU lanes if you install the second cpu ssd lmao

>>106172629
I'm pretty happy with my 7700x, served me great last 2 years

>>106172646
there's higher VRAM refresh and then UDNA, probably next year for UDNA, late-ish

>>106172647
yeah Im running out of gpu bandwidth real soon after I install 6090 on my pcie 3 mobo

>>106172654
>probably next year for UDNA
too soon, I didn't push everything out my 7900XT yet, no need to upgrade

>>106172655
don't know I got 16 pcie 4.0 lanes + 1 ssd into cpu m2. you got the same but pcie 5.0 which is irrelevant anyway there's no extra gain for gpu. if you install your second m2 into cpu then you lose 8 pcie 5.0 lanes, that's gotta sting

>>106172664
ye 7900XT/XTX are still fine.

Just completed a new build and first time using a m.2 for C drive. My old SATA SSD that I reformatted for steam now disappears every time it goes to sleep requiring a restart

>>106172293
Wont pbo overexert the cpu?

>>106172738
theres some potential weirdness with the installation if you dont physically remove the drive during windows install

try replugging the the cables and check bios for boot order

Is there any quality difference between 120mm fans from Noctua and beQuiet?

>MSI MAG B850M MORTAR WIFI
>ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI
I'm struggling to decide between these two, same price. For a 9800X3D.

I'm kinda out of the loop concerning GPU.
I just want to play BF, idc about dlss, ray tracing, etc. All I need is to hit 60fps on a 1080p display.
Idealy I would have go for something like a 6700xt but they don't exist.
So what is the current decent "cheap" (lol) gpu, with a least 12gb of vram?

>>106172887
rn I'm hesistating between something like a 7800 xt (450€) and a 5070 (550 €)

>>106172887
9060xt 16gb

>>106172902
Thanks

>>106169479
>Tariffs attack margin, not price. Price is decided by demand, not tariffs.
I'm pretty sure 100 percent tariffs would do something to price. I bet you think they will make products for free so you don't have to pay extra.

>>106169479
>Price is decided by demand, not tariffs.
tarriffs can ruin demand. if something is affordable it creates demand. demand is based on affordability. you can afford some hobby, you go into it. if it becomes to expensive, you get out of it. there's no implicit demand as it's not really needed. you can get by with some price increase, but 2x that bitch and you kill the sector.

I'm trying to go for a high 1440p setup that's optimized for noise levels. I've done a bit of research and I've come up with pic related. Any suggestions? I've already bought the GPU and the motherboard

>>106172967
Def change the gpu to one thats power efficient, something like 5070 ti
AIO's are generally quieter choice for cpus since the fan ramping up is audible when it starts working.

>>106168197
Tried it once, hated it. I'll keep using W10 forever.

>>106168056
>Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.
wtf

>>106173012
>too brainlet to figure it out
>copes
it's still faster tho

>>106168197
the anime girl voices are telling me not to do it

Ehh shit... i scratched the motherboard just below cpu there pcie lanes and something else.
What do you think? I already know.
1. Its okay.
2. Partially okay.
3. Dead.

>>106172985
Electricity is pretty cheap where I live so it's not much of an issue. I went for an air cooler instead of an AIO for two reasons:
1/ I don't need to replace it after a while
2/ I don't want to deal with pump noises
Or is an AIO that much of an upgrade?

>>106173033
The gpu isnt about electricity, its about how much the fans need to work to dissipate heat per frame produced. More efficient = less noise. 9070 xt is basically overclocked by default.

AIO benefit is that the water absorbs heat, and during long workloads it produces less decibels than an air cooler at same perf.

>>106173019
>best video download option is terminal based shit
fix your goddamn OS, it's fast because it's fucking barebones

Why in the NIGGER dont we have a good monitor panel yet, I can spent 1000$ but only if it lasts me 10 years FUCK

>>106173050
there's nothing to fix, it works and it's fast. learn how to use it lol. you'll never get your pleb bloat on linux lol

>>106173033
A proper AIO should be quieter while being better at cooling. Big air cooler can also have issues with clearance.

>>106173053
because of (((them))) and lobbies probably
also don't swear please

>>106173053
just wait another 8-12 years for qdel gayming monitors sir

>>106173024
i don't see exposed copper so it might just be a surface scratch and still be okay

>>106173053
I really dont understand these autists.

Do you have a job?
No?
Then dont buy oled and cry about being poor privately before you go to sleep.

>>106173045
>>106173062
I was just trying to cope I've already bought the GPU. I also didn't want to give my money to Nvidea desu

Thanks guys for the advice

How're you supposed to genuinely know if a certain CPU cooler - motherboard - GPU combo will actually fit together?
It feels like the data for motherboard dimensions is often pretty incomplete as well.

>>106173116
its more likely a problem for mini itx builds

For big cpu coolers ram clearance is important and many offer an option where you can raise 1 fan to not hit the ram sticks.

Then gpu isnt near the cpu cooler so it never conflicts. Gpu can fail to fit an itx case however.

>>106173177
My previous build with an MSI b150 mortar and a True Spirit 120 M BW rev.A ended up being a nightmare where the cooler would only fit at a 90 degree angle blowing upwards.

>>106173221
couldnt you just move the cooler up a bit? or put it on the other side

>>106173245
Nah, GPU wanted to exist within the space with the side mounting crap and it was unworkable..

>>106173269
theres few cm of space between my air cooler and the gpu so thats odd
also your mobo has 2 pcie slots for the gpu so you could always move it to the other one

Is 5060ti good for 1080p ultra settings in all the new AAAslop gaming and at least tolerable in AI image gen?

Any nVidea drivers concerns that should be considered?

I have a question, in the boot menu I have "EXPO" disabled... but I also have some AI tweak EXPO enabled.
I'm a bit confused about this, which one should I have enabled?

>>106173325
Same and ai tweak expo seems to work better for me

>>106173325
EXPO1 is loose timings
EXPO2 is the timings on the kit
EXPO tweaks is tightened timings
One or none will boot

>>106173359
nta but the expo1 gave me my kits timing Weird

>>106173371
The sub timings are changed, the main timings are the same.

New:
>>106173428
>>106173428
>>106173428
>>106173428
>>106173428

>>106172881
I have b650 mortar, it's really good

>>106171517
If you want a modular PSU, please check first if cable ports are coming from the opposite end from where your power cord is going, this case has a retarded guard for PSU bracket that blocks sides of it.