Thread 454718

Is it retarded to use fountain pens?

No its cool to use fountain pens.

>>454720
>No its cool to use fountain pens.

>>454722
cherry picking troglodyte.
>it is retarded to walk because it requires much more muscle work than driving does.
>it is retarded to cook for yourself because it makes a messy kitchen
>it is retarded to read a book because there are audio books.
>it is retarded to play the violin because you can make electronic music in your bedroom.
>it is retarded to collect tin toys because there is wh 40k

dafuqqqqq?
they obviously simply offer different sets of sensual experiences. there is pros and cons to (pretty much) everything.
also consider using a regular fountain pen with regular cartridges if your untalented ass is too clumsy/stupid not to make a mess with dip pens or piston converter systems... you sound like my grandma that dislikes everything internet just because she never properly learned how to use it.

>>454718 (OP)
consider this.
do you enjoy writing by hand?
do you like rituals and 'sacred' little objects to value?
is flowing ink somewhat satisfying to you?
are you sometimes contemplating about reducing time spent on the pc?

if your answer to even just one of these is 'm-maybe' then it will be 10 bucks well invested.
give it a try and decide for yourself whether you find it in any remote way pleasurable. but stop wasting oxygen with naive questions à la
>is it retarded?

>>454726
tldr dont care

i use a fountain pen for sketching from nature - because iike the challenge the ink presents as a medium, no erasing, and i like that i can go over it with a brush and some water after too. i think its great. and i use the pens for other shit to. moderate inconvenience at times but i love my fucking ink drawings and what they represent (ie being in the moment and seeing and composing well)

>>454726
>then it will be 10 bucks well invested
lmfao
there aren't any fountain pens that cheap, all of them are overpriced af and not worth it

>>454718 (OP)
No, but there is a very real and if you ask them, admitted correlation between willing/active participation in "the fountain pen community" and various neurodevelopmental and mental disorders like ADD, ADHD, autism, bipolar disorder, OCD, etc.

>Intrigue, ink and drama grip the fountain pen community

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/intrigue-ink-and-drama-grip-the-fountain-pen-community/

>>454732
i use the cheap muji pens. not sure muji sells them anymore
had mine for years, still working

>>454732
idiot

>>454722
>uses india ink with a fountain pen and makes spiteful comments about the medium

the embarassing retardation of some mfs...

>>454728
>i use a fountain pen for sketching from nature
Why not use graphite or charcoal pencil instead?

>>454790
probably because it has a different look...

>>454790
did you not even read the post, my man?

>>454733
I think that it's just a correlation with neurological issues. The real thread might just be neurodivergence since a normal person would not be such a devilish deviant as to use a primitive method of putting down ink.
>>454728
Same, I like the effortlessness of putting down the lines and the finality of each stroke.

>>454831
Most of the comments I've seen of those kinds of people commenting on it had almost nothing to do with actually using the pens for putting ink on paper, and almost everything to do with the pens and related inks themselves being a perfect outlet for fixating on in a semi- healthy manner, and also to satisfy compulsive urges to collect and organize them andvengage in the ritualistic aspect of loading and cleaning them and disassembly/reassembly.

Where ink on paper is even mentioned its usually still in that context, obessively fixating on the color or sheen...the act of writing or drawimg is mostly just a means to that end, or an afterthought.

>>454832
I don't think you've ever tried a fountain pen before and seen how they differ from ballpoint pens. I think they're especially good for the few of those who write in cursive

>>454833
How the fuck do you conjure up that bullshit based on anything said in the post your are responding to?

I've owned and used plenty of fountain pens, as well as Rapidographs and other specialized ink pens like picrel for drafting and calligraphy and other artwork since back before you were born.

>>454722
just get gud with fountain pens lmao

>>454834
based roller ball bro

>>454722
>getting filtered this hard by a kaweco sport
kek
>>454743
Platinum's Carbon Black isn't india ink, and is safe for fountain pens.

>>455170
it mentions fountain pens in the specifications, granted, but it is still suspended pigments instead of dye...
feel free to clarify why it technically isn't india ink (happy to learn something new here), but I doubt you'll make me consider this uninformed choice of materials a viable argument against giving fountain pens a try.

>>455171
India ink is made with shellac, which is why it gums up fountains pens - same reason it's waterproof. Carbon Black is very water resistant, but nowhere near the level of imperviousness that india ink is. The only thing you need to be wary of with it is that, being pigment based, it can be a bitch to clean out if it dries in the pen.
>I doubt you'll make me consider this uninformed choice of materials a viable argument against giving fountain pens a try.
It's not? The Sport is an easy beginner pen and Carbon Black is a good ink if you want something with high water resistance. >>454722 is still retarded, my point was the ink wasn't a mistake.

>>455172
yea, interesting, but wikipedia deems wrong, so Idk
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_ink
under 'components' section it says that the carbon pigments are what makes india ink india. shellac seems to be an optional component

>a bitch to clean out
exactly. and that is why it is a poor beginners choice. water resistance or not.
noobs being filtered by clogging seems pretty darn unsurprising. so still declaring it a wrong choice.

>>454718 (OP)
I like fountain pens, but I hate the bulky ones, I prefer the smallest and cheapest ones.
>>454732
This is arround ten bucks

i dont know shit about ink
my pens clog if im not regularly using them
but i just dip the nib in water and shits good to go

>>454722
Weak bait but checked

>>454732
I've got a couple 1930s gold nib fountain pen for that price, you're just a retarded consooomer looking in the wrong place

>>454733
>"autists" somehow driven to the good old times, gathering on /pol/
>apparently they like old timey way of writing
Incredible uh? I bet the autism rate among antiquarians is over the roof too

>>454733
That's just par for course with any women-dominated hobby.

>>455248
1 shut up
2 fuck off
3 ????
4 stay fucked off

>>455174
I bought that pen today. For 10 bucks it's great.

>>454718 (OP)
no because it makes your calligraphy much better and actually readable

>isn't it retarded to write when you can just type everything on your phone
no because
1. when you write you retain more about what you wrote
2.the jews can only have access to your writings if they get a warrant and apprehend your notebooks

the only downside is that your notes arent searchable, you can't ctrl + f in real life and you can't really make a hierarchical filing system with ease.

maybe you can scan your notebooks and use a local llm to turn your handwriting into computer text and make notes from there.

thats the best way, a mix of both worlds.

>>454732
they're literally like 5 dollars from the chinese

>>455522
>jews
FUCK OFF racist cunt

>>456340
a racist wrote this post

sorry cunt im not a jew
im a freedom loving american and you can fuck off

>>454718 (OP)
yes, but it's fun. like dating a girl with a coke problem

>>454726
that's so much effort to defend a retarded, outdated pen lol. shows how effective that image is.

>>456364
lol effective? see here >>455171
this shit just doesn't happen if you have average intelligence

>>456366
bro showing a picture of a fountain pen's mess like that is probably the most effective succinct attack against those pens.

>>456367
dude. just take a look at the linked image ONCE. >>455171
they are a noob and used pigment paint.
shit.
doesn't.
happen.
if you aren't retarded and use adequate materials for your level.

>>456368
Jesus Christ you dunce I'm not against fountain pens. I'm just saying >>454722 is incredibly effective propaganda against them. Propaganda isn't usually entirely truthful lololol

>>456370
>a retarded, outdated pen
made me think you fall for the 'propaganda'. but nvm - we on the same page it seems

>>454722
yes
my pen is often messy and fussy
dont care
love it

No, it's awesome to use fountain pens

>>454718 (OP)
It actually takes skill to use one properly.
It's the opposite of retarded.
But something tells me that you're better suited to crayons

Not at all

Nope. You can write pretty letters with them.

>>454718 (OP)
No practical benefit

>>454718 (OP)
No they feel nice

no you can do things like deliberate thickness o' lines n' funny blots n' smudges and then you can stab someone with it. just a feather? heh, sure, stab me with that? better have good aim! one o' those deliberate steel ballpoint pens whats MADE for stabbin'?! heh, well go ahead, write like the papyrus font irl with that, go ahead, i'll wait. /:-]

>>454718 (OP)
It's what you write that matters, I learned that about buying 7 fountains pens.

>>454718 (OP)
Best chance to maintain a neat handwriting.

I have a bunch of fountain pen inks but have come to recognize rollerball supremacy. Would it be enough to mix them with a little gum arabic to use in a rollerball cartridge?

>>454718 (OP)
>Is it retarded to use fountain pens?

Yeah, it messes up my iPad.

I often wonder if fountain pen discussion belongs in /ic/, /lit/, /g/ or /gd/

i haven't use a pen that is not a wacom stylus in like a year

I only use Bic Cristal. It is perfect for the price.

>>454718 (OP)
If I see anyone other than a very artsy female graphic designer or a rich old man using a fountain pen, I 'd consider it pretentious af.

>>460008
dafuq I think it's the opposite.
those are the exact people who appear pretentious af using a fountain pen

when I was in college and writing a shit ton every day with ball point pen I tried looking for ways to make it easier on my hands, they were sore a lot after classes
and fuck pencils I didn't like the lack of contrast
I tried fountain pens and it was fucking great, not having to press at all really and having a great solid contrasty line
in addition to that I realized having a ball kind of ties you to having a momentum? Of your pen tip on the page, restricting it's ability to change direction as quickly
with the fountain pen it was so much easier to write for much longer and my handwriting got much more legible because of the lack of the ball imo, which is why gel or rollerball wouldn't work as well for me even though they had great contrast and put down a line without pressing hard
I really liked the idea of refilling with just, well, INK instead of buying a plastic cartridge
felt tip came close but I hated the scratchy feeling, nails on a chalkboard to me
cursive became a JOY as well, as it was so easy to change direction that all my ascenders became instantly more parallel and easy
maintenance sucks but it's really not that bad, let it soak if you don't use it every day, otherwise use it every day and don't let it dry up
some pens are more forgiving than others e.g. Lamy
I love the basic international style with iridium tip like in op, they used to be my go to

It's a stronger part of Asian tradition, so is making a come-back.

Now that so many people are using digital signatures, and how easy that is, executives want cool signatures again.

I have recently gotten into fountain pens. Cheap chinese ones but it's pretty nice.
I wanted to talk about fountain pens more but honestly all I can say is they're pretty nice and I prefer piston pens.

I'm looking at buying a fountain pen for the first time. Any suggestions?

>>454722

You are overdoin it.

Did you do it this way for fun and pics, or, are you so incompetent with FPs?

>>454718 (OP)
>>454720
Can you make a basic family tree complete with parents, couples, and siblings?
>See key

>>461902
I use black pens and have a lot of blacked clothing

I like ink

>>460543
Many people will recommend Chinese brands such as Jinhao. But, I would suggest either the Pilot Metropolitan or the Kakuno (they have faces). The Pilot pens are rather inexpensive and write smooth.

>>460180
It's frustrating. Almost nobody uses them IRL and the two fountain pen forums and the subreddit have a demographic that usually angers me. I think the poster above is right that this "hobby" draws a higher-than-normal anxiety enthusiasts.
>>462736
The most annoying thing about fountain pens is that many dry out, whether within days or weeks or months. Therefore my primary suggestion is to get one that does not do this. To achieve this, get a screw-off style cap instead of a snap on/off cap (the snap mechanism requires the cap has tiny holes in it, to prevent a vacuum that would pull ink out). The best company for this is Platinum because they have a "Slip and Seal" technology that is known to keep the nib wet, even when stored unused for months.

As a beginner I would suggest buying two Platinum Preppys, in in a fine and one in a medium. This should get you an idea of what it's all about with a cheap, reliable pen that is not going to annoy you. And they come with a little bit of ink.

To upgrade this order slightly, get one or two converters to go with the preppy and some ink samples that appeal to you. Much of the joy in fountain pens is in playing with different ink colors, and converters allow you to swap colors with just a bit of cleanup in between.