Thread 29256478

Does watching porn lead to a fulfilling life?

>>29256478 (OP)
When Tiffany is in it: Yes, it does.

>>29256478 (OP)
When I watch porn with your ex gf and she instigates wanting me to cream pie her ass, absolutely mother fucker!

>>29256478 (OP)
Watching porn since I was a preteen, over 11 years. Not a single normal aspect of the human brain works properly. Sleeping, eating, focusing, socializing, obviously sex itself. It is all kaput and I think it began with porn. More obvious than ever that is a weapon, and not just a quick fap sesh. I envy those who didn't grow up with it. It is fulfilling the same way as any drug is, feeling good for barely any time to fill an empty void.

No

>>29256590
I've also been watching it since being a preteen. Now I'm 30 and I still jerk off multiple times per day. Because of my edging sessions, I can fuck for a really long time without cumming, girls like that. I've also gotten a habbit of long gooning sessions where I don't lose the erection after cumming so I can goon for like 4 hours and cum like 5 times during the session.
I've got very bad vision though, because I've been staring at screens since I was a little kid (not all of it pirn, obviously) but that's about it of the damage.

>>29256478 (OP)
Of course not, but watching porn *did* improve my technique/understanding.

>>29256478 (OP)
probably doesn't matter much in a real society with actual humans, in an artifical reality where negative conditioning is added against you due to porn use however it is likely an awful situation to be in, in the first place.

Just a poor context overall. But really any situation can be made poor in quality by outside factors influencing context whether it be porn use, or being married, or being successfully promiscuous with many attractive partners, or being celibate etc. etc.

I'm sure you could find ways to torture people or make them feel good in either instance with enough metrics of control at your disposal.

The real question is if granted an adimistrative role to reality would you make people's lives actually worth living or no. You can say this or that or what ever you want, if the answer is no, than probably you're not very good at administration and unsuited to the role if that role requires a duty of keeping others living and content. If your administrative duty is simply to ruin experience however, than I guess your duty has been fulfilled in these instances.

no but jacking off's fun so we ball

>>29256478 (OP)
porn addicts are like flechette round victims, not enough damage to make you a casualty, enough damage to make you a burden of those around you, like a fucking disfigured ww1 veteran.

>>29256478 (OP)
Yes. Sex leads to frustration. You will fall in love with another human and end up under their spell.

>>29256478 (OP)
no one cares and it doesn't matter

>>29256478 (OP)
Define fullfilling life

>>29257306
Porn addicts are a tiny minority of people who watch porn everyday. Addiction isn't measured of the amount of use. It's measured by the damage the addiction causes.

For example, most alcoholics don't drink much. They actually based on studies, drink less than regular people per week, because they can't be drunk all the time because their friends and family would take them to treatment, while people who want to get drunk and who are not alcoholics, will get drunk and will drink lots of booze on one night at a week.

>>29256478 (OP)
Porn is of a similar addictive level as alcohol, which is to say that most people are fine with it, but around 5% of habitual viewers really manage to fuck up their lives and they are extremely vocal about it. Of course they never consider that the problem might be them, even though everyone around seems to be unaffected.

>>29256478 (OP)
i watched porn while fucking my gf last time

>>29257551
Plenty of functional alcoholics get shitfaced everyday and hide it from your family. Especially if you live alone. I only got dry because being an epileptic and an alcoholic is not a good combo.

>>29256478 (OP)
no, but getting a slightly below average girl that is a sexual freak is underrated and fulfilling

>>29256478 (OP)
I think, if you're not going to really get what you want in life, porn is a good option. In my HS, the most beautiful girl in my class married the richest guy from the neighboring HS in the next biggest city. She went for the most $. He was born with it, that was it. Really hansom men are rare, we're not all going to be 9s and 10s. Historically, women would settle for what they could get based on survival. Now, with dial-a-dick apps, no shame, and welfare, they don't have to. Porn is really a blessing. If you're just a normal guy with a normal amount of money, its going to be the closest thing to what you really want except for moving to Nevada and paying for escorts. Escorts may transmits aids too though. Inb4 incel, I've had sex with a number of women, so many that I realize how mechanical and pointless it is. I'm married. I enjoy porn.

>>29256478 (OP)
Also, porn is better than sex in some ways. If you can't really be in the moment when you have sex. Also porn lets you see things that you cannot possibly see during sex. Almost every time I've had sex all I can see is a the mattress above her head. The back of her head and shoulder blades a few times. VR Porn + The Handy is arguably better than sex.

>>29256590
>I envy those who didn't grow up with it.
before modern day porn there were dvd's. before that there were magazines and the jcpenney catalog. before that there were nude paintings and statues. porn has always existed and will always exist.

No but it can help you get a nut so that's cool. You can have a fulfilling life whether you do or not.

>>29256590
Watching porn isn't the cause, it's one of the symptoms of a bigger problem

Porn is all I've ever known.

>>29256590
>>29256663
I'm in the same boat, especially you >>29256663, and one thing that I don't understand is how some anons throughout the years say they developed ED because of the porn addiction, while still being in their 20s or 30s. I'm in my thirties and I'm horny as a squirrel who never had seen action in ages. Maybe that's still bound to happen, but I show no signs of slowing down kek
Unfortunately, I'm cursed with a fucked up brain and I'm trying to get rid of the habit for some time now, but holy fuck after almost two decades this is almost an impossible task.

>>29257909
>If you're just a normal guy with a normal amount of money, its going to be the closest thing to what you really want except for moving to Nevada and paying for escorts.
I think you are giving porn too much credit. For porn to provide some semblance of satisfaction like that you really need to be an well resolved dude who engages with it out of your own volition and absolutely no sense of shame. For the majority of us is an addiction or an escape valve.

i dont have the rockin bod, charm, or resources to really get into porn or to have sex with women when i want it.
when im frustrated,
the only thing that helps is cranking it to some porn and cooming.
then theres some momentary release of tension and im less frustrated.
would i become a better person without porn? i dont know.
but it helps me cope with my shitty life.

>>29258167
what if instead of gooning u spent that time working our? really makes u think...

Yes, watching porn is fundamental for you to realize that fuck sluts such as blonde in OP are vile meat and will have her anal sphincters dilated in the most public fashion possible for a relatively small quantity of money on the premise that it will be a viable alternative for her to not be working 9 to 5 at a j o b. If it wasn't for por, women representation in Jewish owned media would make the weaker among you to believe them to be noble creatures, key to a happy life and honorable leaders whom we should listen to in all matters. Thank God for anal porn sluts doing their best for us to see.

>>29256478 (OP)
You tell me

>>29256478 (OP)
Watching porn leads to cumming. That's all.

I've been using porn as a reinforcing stimuli for behavior modification. For example, I currently wake up at 4:30 to go to the gym when it opens and usually watch some porn right after waking up in order to reward myself for getting out of bed. When I started exercising about 5 years and 40 pounds ago, I would watch porn while lifting at home, and then I gradually reduced my porn consumption over time. I think this approach could probably have a wider range of applications if porn consumption wasn't so stigmatized. This is probably my most autistic personal trait.

>>29258167
Porn is free

>>29256590
Skill issue

>>29258213
Using for how long? In what else besides exercise? I think that's still bad because it doesn't replace porn. Suppose that you manage to develop a good set of habits: exercise, studying, eating healthy stuff, meditation. You reward yourself with porn for all this stuff, but if you try to stop the whole thing falls apart because the routine itself wasn't giving those dopamines (or substituting porn's), masturbation was, worse yet: combined with porn.
You should be smarter about all of this.

>>29258235
I've tried to apply this strategy to studying with minimal success. It works slightly better for things like doing household chores or filing taxes where there's a defined end point. The biggest limitation is the need for privacy. I'm married so I can't just watch porn at any moment, although it's not difficult to open 4chan on my phone and sneak a quick peek. As far as exercise goes, there's plenty of naturally occurring serotonin that comes with working out, so transferring control of that behavior to natural consequences hasn't been hard at all. I only really use it to wake up early, not during or after workouts.

>>29256478 (OP)
No

>>29257998
correct!
the problem is people thinking sex is fun.
it's work, not fun.

>>29258208
>he doesn't know about gooners, edgers, and jelqers

>>29256478 (OP)
does not watching porn lead to a fulfilling life style?
Porn can be damaging like pretty much everything else, the habit people have of laying all responsibility for their failures to pornography says a lot about the weakness of their character
Porn can be a problem but in your cases? (You) are the problem

>>29258858
>does not watching porn lead to a fulfilling life style?
it's one of the pre-requisites, yes.

>>29258837
You're doing it wrong.

It's only work in professional porn.

>>29256478 (OP)
worshipping, getting down on your knees, for whom, oh the jews own most, real mind-control, you want to stop, oh you cant thats funny hmm

>>29256478 (OP)
No, but neither does a full bank account, having a large cock or a full set of teeth. Seeking blame for your situation in a single thing isn‘t helpful. Rub one out and then see a therapist.

>>29258881
says (you)

>>29258837
so you're saying you're here right now working your own dick for free?

huh. interesting.

>>29258200
Nta but doing both is really not that hard. Been in shape and regularly worked out all my life while also watching a few hours of porn every week.

>>29256590
>and I think it began with porn
Based on what evidence?

>>29256478 (OP)

>Inb4 he took the bait
>Does posting bait lead to a fulfilling life?

I understand that people on here are degenerate, in my opinion it's okay for some of us to go to hell or do whatever it is that causes these retarded fucking posts to appear. Guys, if your life isn't fulfilling its probably less to do with porn and more with you being a looser. Perhaps its not your fault, perhaps it is, perhaps you are some nymph porn addict who's actually been hurt by porn, im not actually mad that you posted this but what i don't understand is: why people have discussions here? most of us are here for porn, if you don't like it or want to have a genuine discussion there are plenty of other boards to ask this stupid shit. Even if the question is genuine, its like a trick question because you assumed that porn either does or doesn't lead to a fulfilling life, the reality is its super subjective and there are a fuckton of variables. I just come here when im on my break at work so I don't really think its good or bad, its gonna be either porn or YouTube and neither option is particularly "uplifting". Maybe I should fucking do math on my break or like read books, or study something, but there isn't much you can do with 10 minutes. I just use my time to blow off steam.

>>29256590
Which SSRIs are you on?

>>29256590
I watch it daily to edge myself before fucking my wife. Although my wife is also pervert

>>29256478 (OP)
>"The naked body of a woman can only be contemplated in a mystical frame of mind"
-Gilles Deleuze
It is the last sacred thing in the modern world

>>29258891
you don't know how to fuck.
>>29258947
i'm bored with sex, anon.
i just want a nice day.
>>29258903
says math.

>>29259064
>thinks a woman's body is sacred
anon...

>>29256478 (OP)
define a fulfilling life

>>29259087
one where you reach enlightenment before 40.

You only realise how bad of an addiction porn is when you try to quit.
Im not comfortable of having such a strong addiction in my life but as for now i dont have the power nothing helps im a Christian and i read the Bible and i pray but its not enough.
The scary thing is that ive overcomed heroin addiction and other substances abuse that i used heavily for years on end, with no bigger problem. But porn is so accessible.

I think the only way to overcome porn addiction is to toss your phone away and dont have any technology in your house like tv pc or phone and no wifi etc and maybe just use an old phone that does not have access to internet.

Because when i overcome big drug addiction i cut off all the contacts for it and also my old friends.

Quitting porn while still scrolling on Facebook or whatever for any amount of time is just hopeless. You need to get rid of the phone and tv and pc.

You need to make that choice in order to successfully get rid of porn. Its doable and im thinking about doing it i did it for many years ago for 3+ years i was without porn but the second i got a new phone i watched porn again.

Also money is a problem here. If you get rid of your phone etc but still have some money on your bank you always have that conflict to buy a new phone.

Same goes with drugs its extremely hard to get rid of a drug addiction if you have a lot of money most people i know that got rid of drug addiction (i know many) did it only when they lost everything.

Money is a big problem when you are a slave to any addiction. So IF (and you should) you want to get rid of porn addiction, setup so that you cant buy a new phone, get rid of your phone and pc and tv and WiFi, every technology you have in your home, and just use one of those old phones, and youll have a chance. Have a Bible in your home and read it. Pray to god for mercy and forgiveness.

Im going to do this very soon maybe next month. Ive tried everything else.

>>29256590
it's not porn, it's you that is the problem lol I've been watching porn for 23 years and I only watch it to jerk off when I can't have sex otherwise. that's it.
porn obsession is a you problem, nothing else

>>29256478 (OP)
Actually it kinda ruined my sex life because I now only want to fuck women in the ass, and my GF was into it at first, but now she cant hold poop after anal so she doesn't let me anymore, after she "dripped" in her workplace and I had to drive there and give her spare pants & panties.

So now we don't fuck, I get morning wood blowjobs from time to time, apart from that I only jerk to porn. I watch/jerk porn 3-5 times a day.

>>29259178
And to answer op question no i dont think it leads to a fulfilling life i think it has severe spiritual consequences especially in relationships but also as a single man.

I think it has severe consequences in your life and behaviours and outcomes and i think its a part of an addiction to try and minimize these consequences of explain them on other stuff around you. I think it will affect your attractiveness to other women and i think it will prohibit you from finding true love in life. Sure there are people perhaps that watch porn but i dont think they find true love maybe they find women that are off in some ways like they like you for your money or your looks but its not true love and you end up in a broken marriage with kids or whatever and this is not a full filling life.

>>29259186
Ok bro have you tried to stop watching porn? Cause if you have not tried to stop, you cant talk about this.

Just try to quit for 2 weeks i dare you land then come back and say you dont have a problem with it.

>>29259178
I just want to add to this that if you are dependent on having a phone for work etc you need to change your ockupation. Its the same for drug addicts many i know that stepped out of an addiction had to get rid of their jobs and old Lifes completely its a new beginning and its not something to take lightly you might have to start from scratch maybe you no longer can afford your house maybe even your family will despise you for it but i dont think they will if you are true to them and say you have this problem.

You will only understand what kind of hold porn ha son you when you want to quit and find out you cant.

Some of the problems is inside your head. You will be motivated the first day. Then the next youll start to question it like "this isnt so bad for me" "its just porn its whatever" and then you go and want off again to porn its sick in its nature its the hardest sin youll ever conquer its lust because it doesnt have the same effects like heroin abuse for example you wont die from it its free it doesnt cost money it doesnt even take up that much time. But it has the most severe spiritual consequences im sure i cant prove it but im sure it has severe consequences but you can always heal and its never too late its a whole new world if you overcome it i remember my 3 years without it but i was still using drugs and criminality so i wasnt free from addiction in other areas of my life.

>>29256480
'Cumflooding"

>>29256478 (OP)
No. but neither does not watching porn.
If that is what you think is holding you back in life, you're a fucking retard. Which 90% of people on this site are, tbf.

>>29256478 (OP)
I wouldn't know. I never had a chance at a fulfilling life to begin with. Porn didn't really have an impact on that.

>>29257909
>Historically, women would settle for what they could get based on survival. Now, with dial-a-dick apps, no shame, and welfare, they don't have to.
That's honestly why most men should transition. Women only care about the top 10% of men. All of the rest are disposable. Since women are never going to willingly settle for us anyway, we might as well go on HRT early and be useful as fucktoys for a little bit before we die. At least then we have a few years to feel like we deserve to be cared for.

>>29259217
Right on. It's the way to find out. I'm on the third day without and it's already becoming unbearable. It's that bad.

>>29259198
I have done anal with 3 women. It always just felt like a thick tight cock ring at first that got loose to the point I couldn't hardly feel anything right away. Also usually kind of gritty feeling.

>>29259357
Time to fire the ovens, moshe

>>29259502

That's why you go balls deep

>>29259357
>we

>>29259392
Yeah well you are online so you are setup for failure. More thathat you are scrolling 4chan adult gif i mean who are we kidding right?

I think the only way is to cut off internet entirely. To have these expensive blockers is pointless i tried and i managed like 5 days but then my thoughts went like "man this is ridiculous it aint that bad its just porn its natural" etc and i failed. Its like a drug addiction you cant quit drugs addiction if you keep your favourite drug at home with you in your hands ull just relapse and the whole process will be painful. Luckoly you can put distance from drug and dealers and cut them off your network and find new people and new hobbys its hard but its doable.

But porn? Its all around. Free. Just a click away every day. It wont cost a diem and you can do it in your bed. You dont even have to get up from bed. Thats why you need to remove these devices from your home. And treat every store that sells these devices the same way youd treat a dealer in your recovery. Avoid them take routes avoiding these stores and talk to someone about it.

I think you should treat this with honestly - i have a rule of thumb. If you cant talk to your father about your habits or actions, they are bad and you should stay away from them.

>>29256478 (OP)
No, but neither does any other option.

>>29259392
Oh yeah i wanna add something more the mistake i believe one can do in this journey is to stop fapping entirely. I think masturbation is healthy to a degree so when you feel that you need to unload you should but just dont use porn as a tool to get off.

So the mistake can be that you feel the need to unload and think that its a feel to watch porn its like a mixed signal in the head its a misunderstanding.

So i wouldnt advise to stop masturbating but rather stop watching porn its completely different in the spiritual world but yeah.

I dont want to masturbate without porn especially if i have porn just a click away from my phone.

But i remember when i did t watch porn for three months i still masturbates and i believe this is fine to a certain extent its not like u gonna want to masturbate like 2-3 times a day without using porn anyway it will be for the right reason to release tension and stress and to unload the balls basically thats a natural process i believe for a man im not a doctor but i believe it has good benefits to health but to do it to porn its a spiritual loss.

No, but it's not like most vices/past-times result in a fulfilling life either.

Porn's effects really depends on who you are.
Personally, I can take or leave porn. I watched "more" in the past, but it was only ever the same handful of scenes since most porn is absolute shit. Lately I just read AI generated porn based on random scenarios I make up. More fun, more hot since it's specific to my tastes, and it's more novel.
There's always the argument of porn being the cause of things, and while I can somewhat understand it, it always feels like a bit of a cop out.

Like, "Oh, I spend all day indoors, eat junk, seek cheap dopamine, but it's the 10 minutes of PORN causing all this!"

I think as long as you're not shirking your actual responsibilities (assuming you have some) for the sake of porn watching, you're probably alright. I think becoming a gooned out schizo is much more likely if you get into a porn-oriented community as opposed to simply watching it on your own.

>>29259694
3 years* not month

>>29259705
Its the same with drug addiction. Just because you get clean and quit using drugs, your life wont be great. You still have all this shit to take care of. But this solution to cut off all these devices and tv etc and wii internet would be a great start to change your life.

In the twelve step program Theres a huge difference being sober and being in a recovery.

Me for example: im in recovery i go up in the morning ill have a easy breakfast ill attend a meeting i activate my body twice a week i eat healthy i live in a clean home i take care of my surroundings and relations but i still have this porn addiction. And the addiction is very strong i cant stop i tried everything i tried blocking porn sites i tried reading the Bible (i do this anyway but it doesnt help) everyytime after a few days i start to think my life is great im studying i workout ive lost all these extra kilos my body is in shape im sober im attending meetings i have a social life etc but i still cant get rid of this porn addiction. Im absolutely powerless.

The only thing left is to actually remove these devices physically out of my home and life and make sure i cant get a new one.

>>29259705
Also you are only looking at this from a materalistic physical angle like what you can see and touch. But you forget the spiritual consequences, and if you want to reduce there is no spirituality or that there is no spiritual loss from watching porn, were done here.

>>29256478 (OP)
My wife encourages it. If I stop for a few days she'll ask me if everything is ok. I think it's b/c she's a slut and porn lowers modesty barriers.

>>29256981
great blurb. you're a very intelligent anon

>>29257216
fatties like her cause me to lose interest so thanks for posting this?

>>29256478 (OP)
>trad/ anti porn faggot bait thread #1838479
Take this shit back to /pol/

If porn, video games or sugar can alter your everyday enough to decrease your quality of life then the problem is probably you. People with 0 self control and self esteem will try to blame everything for their unfulfilling life. They'll always play the victim of some issue blown out of proportions in an attempt to make everyone fear it so they don't feel alone.

>>29256478 (OP)
No.
A fulfilling life is built with hard work and a little luck. Porn is just a timewaster and doesn't add or detract from a fulfilling life when watched in moderation, but if you start watching it to the point of addiction, you're actively fucking yourself and your future over, just like with any other addiction.

>>29259041
This is the way, I use porn to keep my libido up so I can fuck my wife better later. Or when the baby is keeping her busy, or she's on her period or whatever.
That being said, when I first started having sex in my early 20s (late bloomer), I found porn was basically giving me ED by mindfucking me. I looked into it, and found some podcast where this lady had done some research and found that the way some of us had started using porn, having 50 tabs open, flicking between videos every so many seconds, that will absolutely fuck your boner.
The trick is to just watch one scene through if you're going to use porn. Don't flick from image to image, video to video. I forget the brain chemistry, neurology, psychological reasoning behind it, but it's a real thing.
Use it safely, be smart, and it won't cause problems. Goon out flicking from tab to tab, never landing on something for more than 10 seconds, and yeah you're gonna fry your brain and limp-dick yourself.

>>29259135
so no one? lol

>>29257918
This, there's no difference between a ten year old being able to look up gaping asshole furry porn in 2 minutes and skimming through the victorias secret catalogue when his mother isnt home

>>29256478 (OP)
It does for me, but I think that's because I don't really like watching anal stuff

>>29256478 (OP)
Yeah, filters out the weirdos who are obsessed and keep worrying bout what i watch or do in my private time, it leads to a free life, and that's fulfilling enough as it is, shits just porn, and somehow that attracts people who self report their fetishes onto me, or judge me for no good reason, other that forced justifications to make believe their on a higher moral ground, or to distract themselves from their own miserable lives, "porn addiction" isn't hard to get out of, if you find the right person to be addicted with for love, you literally just delete the shit, or be honest if your partner is also a porn enjoyer and show em what you watch, porn is just a more aggressive and stimulating kama sutra

>>29260510
oh, anon.

>>29258963
Based on seeing other people doing all the same things as me but being completely fine, but they probably weren't cranking the hog to weird porn at adolescence. It was like the most consistent hobby in my life fml.
>>29259026
None. Have only heard bad things so I will never take them, although I have been thinking about therapy recently. Still don't think it will really help, I know what needs to be done.
>>29259186
Yeah of course it doesn't apply to you. Watching it once in whenever isn't nearly as bad as watching every day, for years, during your developing years. Gave myself phimosis. I even denied cuties in high school because my standards for the female body were so high due to porn.

>>29260741
>Based on seeing other people doing all the same things as me but being completely fine, but they probably weren't cranking the hog to weird porn at adolescence.
Doesn't 99% of guys watch porn?

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

>>29256663
I hate that! It's uncomfortable and starts to hurt! I climax rather quickly and afterwards I just want him to finish as soon as possible! What are these insane women who want to get railed for an hour?! I've sworn off sex because every man of my generation has death gripped themselves and take too long!

I wonder if I'd still be a socially awkward borderline sperg virgin without porn. Problem was I got exposed to sex pretty early and it was always there nagging away at my child mind. Porn exposure wasn't too long after but it would be a few more years before I actually started jerking it and then a few more years before porn was used regularly.

>>29256478 (OP)
Not really, but it did help me cope with my school days and personal bullshit. I first discovered masturbation naturally, then I found my dad's porn stash and the rest was history. Got my own laptop and had an endless stream of porn readily available. I was 13-14, jerking off at least three times a day. As I got older, I reduced my consumption to once every day or every other day. I've sort of been on that path ever since. I was a fat, awkward, nerdy kid in school and only lost weight since the pandemic, so my prospects for a relationship were rather slim. These days, I'm in much better shape, dropped nearly 70 lbs, but I've never spoken with another girl or have been in a relationship since improving myself. I still use porn to quell my carnal desires, but I nothing would make me more proud than to quit this cycle, but at the same time, I don't know if I'm really serious enough to quit.

>>29256478 (OP)
Spices mine up .. keeps me at the ready for when I get at my girl

>>29256478 (OP)

I think so. I often watch porn as I use my wife's throat as fleshlight. It's amazing.

>>29256478 (OP)
Only if you count fulfilling as when you feel full filled by his cock in your ass when inevitably porn no longer cuts it

>>29261310
Add more lube during anal bro, I thought you knew that

>>29256478 (OP)
Does eating a hamburger lead to a fulfilling life? How about not asking a leading question. It's everything else in your life that determines if it's fulfilling, not one aspect of your comfort/entertainment habits.

>>29256478 (OP)
When I read threads like this, it makes me understand why right wingers want to ban porn. How the fuck do you watch random strangers youre never going to meet fuck, jerk off to it, and it have some deep effect on you? Thats insane.

Sometimes im bored and want to jerk off. I look for a porn with a chick I find hot. Jerk off, and forget about it.

>>29256478 (OP)
I'm not watching porn for fulfillment. I'm watching porn to get rid of a drive so I can focus on fulfilling things that are actually worth it instead of leashing me to a woman that will unavoidably grow contemptuous of me to raise children that will unavoidably betray every expectation you have for them.

I'ts not working. I'm starting to believe I was better off with a family.

>>29261264
Probably why its the loneliest generation of all time. Something something like top 10% of men get 90% of the women

>>29256478 (OP)
>>29256590
Been watching porn since I was 9, as I saw my dad's playboys in the basement, and then the internet.

I'm married, have a daughter, and have a stable job.

>>29258837
>the problem is people thinking sex is fun. its work

It can be both. I prefer to masturbate when I'm tired. If I have energy I will prefer sex. Looking at porn long enough, you get a sense of longing for intimacy, which if you let it fester, drives you further and further into more niche and shocking or weird fetishes in order to fill the desire to closeness.