Thread 29267523

Post clips, stories, tips.

Really want to hit up a AMP tonight, been wanting to all week and need to de stress. Issue is I usually go on Sunday mornings, most Friday experiences i have had are rushed, interruptions, etc so thinking that may not be an issue if its the last session of the night. Any one have experience with Late night visits to AMPs? Place advertises open till 10. Do think that means show up at 10 and be fine? Also wonder if the girl will have any energy or enthusiasm left after all day (which is why i usually hit up mornings). What do you guys think.

>>29267649
I got really lucky one time because I was the last client, she gave me extra time and I left at closing. So I got like an hour and 20 minutes or so. But this is really rare, and I always pick the old mama. You might not get lucky. Sometimes I have them leaving the room greeting people at the door, and I'm laying there cold with oil all over me, really sucks that feeling. It's a gamble. Pick the old lady.

are there any sites that have a decent chunk of AMP videos the usual big names tend not to or at least run the same ones from years and years ago

>>29267649
You have to show up at 8:30 if they close at 10. Or you get cucked.

>>29267705
My usual was the mamasan. No enthusiasm on the BJs but let me creampie her a couple times. Last few times had no enthusiasm at all for the entire thing and cut my time short so i started branching out.

>>29267714
What do you mean by cucked?

>>29267742
They don't like when you show up at the last minute. There will probably be some other guys there waiting as well. Or some people make appointments. You will be cucked by the time and other customers. Happened to me. If I see someone in there when I walk by, I just keep walking now. I just think, tonight's not the night.

>>29267756
Maybe I will just wait for Sunday then. Its a bit of a drive so If i go to one im committed.

Whats a monger

>>29267523 (OP)
Is Phuket enjoyable to a couple other than for whoring? It's my 10 year anniversary so I would like to do some sail charter, diving, climbing and shit and stay in s quiet beachfront resort but still have the option to go downtown and find some spinner to fuck with my wife.

>>29268013
Short for whoremonger
> someone who consorts with prostitutes

been hit up by escorts on tinder. offerinr $120-$200 for services. theyre good looking, and it seems suspiciously cheap. is this a scam? are they going to turn around and extort me?

Has anyone been to Thailand? Are the woman worth it there or are they all used up garbage?

Had my ATF two nights ago. She said tonight is her last night here before she goes back to columbia for good. Insane body that has muscles paired nicely with a great rack and ass. Almost went raw in her but I threw a condom on. I asked if it it was okay next time, since she said only if I pull out. I know she hates it here and since im a good looking guy she really prefers working with me to the horny arabs I live around. Debating if I call her back for one last fuck and if I should hit raw, or even raw and creampie that latina pussy or not

>>29268416
Went to Bangkok in the spring. It was pretty good. Escorts on websites have heavily edited photos but they were still decently attractive in person. Some of the trans women are better looking than the actual women. Can also find some decent looking women at massage parlors or bars and can pay them there.

>>29268544
who is she ??? sauce link ????

>>29267709
https://www.erome.com/KamaWhite

>>29268560
Some dude was posting his OC in the last few monger threads, its from that. I posted all i had saved but I think that is it for her.

>>29268544
>>29268535
>>29267777
>>29267744
>>29267658
that a same guys fucked different girl but same background

I am such a fiend I'm thinking about going to get a girl after my shift. And I have work tomorrow. It's the last of my money until next week but in my sex fiend mind it's worth it. Just so I can go to bed feeling nice and have some nice dreams. I need to squeeze some titties and ass so bad. I want to smell perfume and feel her body heat. I NEED to blast a nut.

>>29268541
>Some of the trans women are better looking than the actual women.

>>29268541
I sucked and fucked a few trannies in my time. Some of them are shady and will pickpocket you. Or demand more money for more time. (so just like any real lady I guess) Most of them are sweet however. I had one slim little natural riding my dick full speed like a pornstar. Dick and balls flopping on me it was incredible. They are usually enthusiastic and have more energy. But they are more private and secretive than women. They will never ever let you snap a picture or anything. Their friends and family don't know they're out getting paid to fuck.

in case any of you bastards want motivation to quit porn and/or being a trick
>>>t/1316468
>>>/t/1316468

>>29268835
kek how is that motivation to quit. I want to do the same thing he's doing.

>>29268794
I plan to go to Bangkok soon for 2 weeks
If I want a girl or tranny everynight for the whole trip how much money should I bring ?

>>29268982
I'm the wrong guy to ask. All my experience is in the Americas. I wouldn't travel to the other side of the world to fuck weird people I have nothing in common with. And Asian people are not even good looking.

>>29268794
>I sucked and fucked a few trannies
Just kys.

>>29268982
>tranny
Please just neck yourself

>>29269211
Her tiny latina cock and balls bounced up and down on my abs. My dick was deep in her ass. I finished inside her ass in doggy and she squeezed my shaft with her asshole :)

how many of these people are actually fucking prostitutes without condoms on? seems pretty wreckless to me - This guy I used to play halo 3 with his gamertag was SyuR, he did this and got aids from doing so...

>>29269334
Go play your Xbox. This website is 18+

>>29269334
Way too many guys fuck these drug addict whores without condoms its crazy. 100% of these bitches have herpes at the very least and even the chicks who never do bareback in the pussy or ass and give bare blowjobs have gonorrhea or chlamydia in their mouth. Lots of these bitches have hiv. Thats why i stick to amp handjobs only now.

>>29268214
The images are fake bro. They should not be hitting YOU up. It's supposed to be the other way around m8

>>29268431
good service

>>29268835
You say that like I don't fuck whores on camera and sell it on OF. I know one does ketamine with her bf, but the others are clean.

>>29268044
>With my wife
How did you get her into that?

Bump

>>29267523 (OP)
this is a good thread

I'm a 24 year old virgin. I've thought about getting a hooker and just getting it over with but with my luck I know I'd either get busted or catch something incurable like AIDS or I get chopped up and they steal my kidneys.

Fuck my life.

>>29270888
go to a legal prostitution country, if you like white women try UK/Germany, or if you like Asians, go to Japan or Hong Kong.

>>29271059
>Inflation has affected even crackhead blowjobs
grim

>>29270972
I would've if I wasn't such a fucking pussy.

TLDR; fucked and got fucked by shemale hooker, shit was cash

>Amsterdam airport, 6hr layover before London flight
>Head into the city for a smoke and fuck
>Walking down the shemale street I see a Blonde 6ft tall, double D fake tits, stockings/lingerie, high leather boots. She blows a kiss at me as I walk past. "Fuck it, she looks good!"

>She brings me inside and we chat, very friendly and looks genuinely female except for her cock bulge she even offers me a line of coke.
>We negotiate 200euros for everything for 1 hour and I ask her to be domme but humiliation isn't my kink just sucking a fucking. After the money is handed over, it begins

>She immediately grabs me and pulls me over to a table, sits on it with legs in the air; "LICK MY ASS!!"
>Never tongued an ass before especially a shemale who's 1 step above street hooker, but I tongue that ass like my life depended on it.
>She brings my head up to her cock and I suck that cock raw and feel it get bigger with each second.
>Drags me over to the bed and sits on my face while shouting to lick her ass/suck her balls/suck her cock, while she starts blowing me, no condom. I never asked for OWO but the fact that shes raw dogging without asking me is making me horny Af.
>Puts me in doggy position, lubes up my ass and pounds me relentlessly with her 6inch cock which was probably the only size I could handle.
>I finally get a turn on top of her, but not before she dabs some cocaine on top of my cock and hoovers it up her nose.
>Next 30mins is a blur of her fucking me and me fucking her
>She couldn't cum as she said she had come 3 times today and it as only 1pm
>I bust inside her ass
>Pay her 50euro tip for the experience and she violently rams her tongue in my mouth while kissing me
>Best hooker experience I ever had, STD check couple months later comes up negative for everything

Pic related, its the Kamer we fucked in, though she aint in the pic

>>29270972
US has some legal places as well. Been to the ones in Elko Neveda not bad. Sues Fantasy Club is asian oriented. The few times I went not a bad lineup. And Inez DND had some hotties. They likely are a bit out of price for me now though but AMPs are getting to that point too.

Curious, where do you get escorts from? A few have approached me on tinder, but other than that I wouldn't even know where to look

Hey there, I'm a 21-year-old gal from the States, a little on the adventurous side and totally into spicing things up during late-night chats. One of my favorite thrills is getting guys to the edge while having a blast myself. I'm always in the mood for some flirty fun (total tease, right?), but I’m a bit shy when it comes to real-life meetups, so I stick to the digital world. If you're like me and enjoy some naughty conversations, hit me up! Just reach out to me on that yellow app where you can send snaps: E m m-i elark-x x (make sure to remove the spaces and dashes). Can't wait to connect and have some fun!

>>29271197
>lick her ass/suck her balls/suck her cock
>her
absolute kek

>>29271357
>>>/hc/2549300
There'll probably be a new thread by tonight, but here's a starting point

>>29271059
A Dollar is a Dollar

72yo OC

looking for a amp near me that has a good review... chino hills is so close to holt tho
any suggestions?

>>29267523 (OP)
That is it. I concede.
Yes, universe, I am an ugly, autistic, loser that will never have even an average girl interested in me.

I will pay the toll for even a modicum of intimacy. How do I search for a PAWG redhead in the prostitution circuit?

t. tried saying hi to a girl from work and she was rude to me for no reason. She tried talking to me later that day but I just didn't want to annoy her so I left.

>>29272505
Might need to increase your range. Use rubmaps click on advanced search put in State and City select services you are wanting and it should display any that fit the criteria.

>>29272625
nigger just go talk to her holy shit

Let's say I've got a spot apparently marked as an AMP but is a spa/nail salon up front. How the hell do I even go about inquiring? (Can't see reviews as I don't have a rubmaps account)

As a total incel loser i really wish escorts were so insanely fucking expensive and trash nowadays. I watched as they went from $180/hr to around $500/hr to now like $800/hr being not unusual. Its absolutely fucking insane. And they act like they hate you, rushing you, clock watch, etc the entire time too, suck in bed, suck at everything really. I went and saw one recently and it was like i had to pay her just to speak to her about seeing her. She was the only one who didnt want like 3 forms of id and a linkedin. She sucked and not in a good way. I remember back in the day the quality was so much better and the prices were better. Covid fucked up a lot of stuff and the funniest part is they are struggling because of it. I get messaged by the old girls i used to see because they cant afford to host ads anymore on tryst because they are losing business and arent getting as many customers as before but none of them ever think "hmm..i did raise my prices 334% in two years, eh, nah, lets not lower them at all, in fact lets raise them further".

If my life allowed it i would be on a flight to thailand or berlin by now.

>>29273092
No. Give me whores.

>>29273366
Assuming you are in the USA it shouldn't be too hard to go to Columbia

>>29273415
Yeah, just with politics right now i want to avoid latin and south america as much as possible. Plus south america is one of the most dangerous places to go next to africa in the world. Thats a place where you slip up you get shot on the side of the road and no one investigates it. In Thailand or Berlin or anywhere else in Europe prostitution is legal if you slip up you just fuck a dude in a dress. Significantly different level of danger.

>>29273092
Some people its just not worth the effort. I am also similar to him. You can just tell not a single woman is into you, no signs of attraction, no nothing. Doesnt matter what you do, there is no "self improving" your way out of it. Like i work with a guy who has a skin condition, no car, lives with his mom, and is an alcoholic and hes slept with several women at my job. Why? Because hes 6'4 and built. He didnt need to "improve" and i see this all the time. For some people there genetics are so bad, their up bringing was so bad, there is no saving it. Hookers or total celibacy is the only way.

>>29273422
I think its really not that dangerous bro, especially if you are white. They try to protect tourists there, and its easy to order a hooker online. A couple of my friends went recently and had a great time. Anyway, I see where you're coming from. Your money might go a bit farther in Canada

>>29273435
Didnt know it was even legal in Canada. I wonder if the prices are off the fucking charts there too. In the us as i mentioned earlier its insane, so insane if i wasnt so fucked with dating i would never ever deal with escorts or hooker to begin with. Its just been awful. Like $500/hr for walmart pussy. Like pussy from a girl you wouldnt look twice at at a walmart. Just insane. And yeah i figure its probably not THAT dangerous but i would be solo traveling there for the first time in my life, like ive never not traveled without family or friends so it would be a huge jump. Personally i wish i didnt have to go thousands of miles away to have sex but this is where i am if i want to feel like a human being so whatever. Annoying as fuck.

>Finally decide to look for some Tranny dick Alligator
>Apparently they're all either Mexican or Black
Do I have to go overseas for Asian trannies because they aren't here.

>>29273446
Why are so many of them black or mexican? I was looking at them a while back debating if i make the jump to that and so many of them are black or mexican and just have huge dicks

>>29273099
Just walk in. You can clock a legitimate place vs a whore massage by how thick her accent is, what she is wearing and how eager they are to get you in the door.

>>29273445
Try places like Victoria and Calgary in Canada . Big enough to have options, but not super overpriced like Toronto

Some questions about Rubmaps:
If a parlor is listed on the site at all, am I to conclude that they're guaranteed to offer sexual services of some kind or another? And, are they appointment based, or do they take walk-ins?
I refuse to make an account on there, so if having premium would've given me the answers, oh well.

>>29273463
If its on rubmaps its not for sure going to offer that service. When i had a rubmaps account like 90% of the massage places around me didnt offer that at all. For free, check eccie and then see if anyone has reviewed any around you. If you live in the midwest or a low population area there might be ONE AMP in your area and they are only going to go L1. Probably for around $115.

>>29273092
i did

>>29271986
nice, also a better recording than the previous ones. at my amp they switched the staff and now it's no milfs anymore.

>>29273433
>Like i work with a guy who has a skin condition, no car, lives with his mom, and is an alcoholic and hes slept with several women at my job.
>Why? Because hes 6'4
height is law

What does monger mean

>>29273433
>>29273645
um no, he's just being himself

>>29271059
i find her enthusiasm and big fucked up teeth and smile really nice and appealing. Am i cooked?

My all time favourite retired.
Shame. She let me buttfuck raw and met me cum where I please. Told her I wish her luck in her future endeavours. Now I gotta find a new favourite weekend toy.

>>29272625
Dude you're fine you're getting your own head about this stuff if would fuck a hooker maybe youd get over your fear and anxiety of women and realize there just people too who wanna have dates like you

>>29273789
(not with you though)

>>29271095
Anon if being a pussy is causing you mental anguish then identify and be a dick...cuz dicks fuck pusies but they also fuck assholes, chuck.

>>29268044
Go to koh tao for beautiful snorkeling (the name translates to turtle island).

>>29271357
>hit up by escorts on tinder
tfw im too ugly to even get swipes by literal prostitutes

>>29269334
>>29269393
i got herpes (hsv-1 not hsv-2) under my foreskin from a bbbj. I didnt even ask for that she just started sucking. She was very clean, cute asian girl, who showered with me beforehand and afterwards. You just HAVE to wear a condom for everything. Maybe even handjobs too.

My usual amp spot is a 30 min walk from my house. I call ahead and walk in. New girl is short, 20s with big silicone boobs. 30 min for 50, undress and lie down. 15 minutes of her massahing me, getting up on the table, head between her thighs, hamds rubbing her calves, her fingers dancing from my back to my legs. She stiffens my shaft by pulling it from behind and touching my asshole. She asks me to flip, i pull out my wallet and give her $200, the usual big tip here. She gets fully nude and climbs up on me body to body, my dick sticking way up between her legs. She puts saran wrap on my cock and it barely covers anything, like poorly wrapped so shes just sucking bare cock. I play with her hard nipples on harder boobs and caress her smooth back. She gets up, takes off the wrap, puts my one hand on her pussy and sucks my nipple while stroking me off. Shes really hot and young, and her pussy is warm and wet. I burst on her hand and back and kiss her neck and tits and cheeks. She got up, dressed, toweled me off, massaged my forehead and front, i got up and left with some hard candy. This was a week ago. I go once every couple months. Id go every day if it was less expensive. Usually i do a full hour and get 2 pops for 200 but i was on a tight schedule then.

A girl I really wanted to see raised her prices and now it's not worth it. Sad!

I keep trying to get to (reportedly) a good milf hooker but she works irregular time and we never synch, at this point I'm enbarassed to ask again if she's available, it feels rude. Also sad!

>>29273433
>Because hes 6'4 and built.
Even with that it won't guarantee much.

>>29273445
>Didnt know it was even legal in Canada.
AFAIK it's some bullshit where it's illegal for men but they look the other way for women. At least that's what I heard someone complaining about before. I've never bothered to fact check it.

>>29273689
You can like whatever you want dude. I always go for old ladies. I like some wrinkles and grey hair. They have the best attitude and treat me really nice. Big mommy milkers. I like the way they dress too they have much better fashion sense than younger ladies. So hot seeing an older lady in a normal dress and heels not the ridiculous stripper shoes. They don't do the stupid fake lashes on their eyes or have those ghetto black girl nails.

>>29273948
Everyone is a gigachad in the right place. Use your passport wisely.

>>29273445
Are you only looking on tryst? That site tends to be more expensive. Try listcrawler or rubrankings.

I think I've been blacklisted? I've messaged a couple of ads from list crawlers the past two weekends and I haven't even gotten a response.

>>29271197
>the shemale street
which one is that?

This is the fakest thread on the entire site with all talk and no fucking. Yall are a buncha virgins larping like you have sex with hookers. If you really did score as much as you say yall did you would have proof and not some AI writen copypasta.

>>29267549
dangerous yet so fking hot, got more of this clip?

usually just lurking, but commenting for other anons: i got two BBBJs in thailand, was enough to catch chlamydia.
Yes i pissed and washed my dick right after

>>29271986
>>29273015
>>29273022
>>29270826
>>29270822
what equipment do you use to record these in secret?

Yo what's going on here is this OC from sugar daddy guy? his stuff is the BOMB. Never been so jealous of an individual

>>29274043
In my experience list crawler is full of nothing but fake ass ads and scams and rubrankings is just handjobs. Plus the only place in my area that gives them is two hours away. Skipthegames USED to be cheaper but the whores on there I guess said fuck it and started charging as much as the girls on tryst. No matter what it will always be around $500/hr where I live and again it's straight up Walmart level pussy. Just trash.

>>29273789
In my experience it just cemented in my mind what I had always known. I was meant to be alone. Forever. At this point I would never get into a relationship with a woman after I've been shown again and again exactly what they think about me every time. I don't offer enough to date a woman today. And what sucks is escorts just keep getting more and more expensive so getting any human touch at all is a once a year thing if I'm lucky.

>>29273948
It will make you cross the threshold from subhuman whatever to human. And that's a huge huge jump to a lot of women. In my case I am considered very short where I live and I can literally see in women's body language the sheer distance in reactions between me and another taller guy. It's day and night

>>29274016
Since Trump has ended birthright citizenship the bar for Chad just increased even in a third world country lol. Plus we have a different idea of Chad. They will never be attracted to you. They just never want to see a goat again and will use you to make sure that happens.

>>29274173
I have a clip of one I saw. None of me fucking her tho. It's usually hard to set up a camera since I do incall and things get steamy fast. This girl was one of rare few who didn't have Walmart tier looks and pussy

>>29274196
How are you guys catching stds this easily? I've been with 10 escorts and over half was bare(most stealthed though) and have caught nothing. And I'm going deep too and getting tested regularly. I had a single scared like three years ago with my atf after we had bbfs for the first time and the next day it started really hurting when I peed. Turns out it was a uti not an std but that's about it. I've been more concerned about getting a girl pregnant than an std.

>>29268214
For that price I would assume a scam if in US

>>29274794
Same. You can sometimes find that for half hour sessions which lately I've been taking just because a full hour is a waste to me. When I was younger it took me like 40 minutes to cum but now it's like ten since I just really enjoy women now and have been in the mood to get one pregnant after I turned like 25. What's great though is in response to me doing that hookers decided to simply stop offering half hour deals and instead requiring hour to ninty minutes. $700/hr minimum. I agree with you, anything lower than like $300/hr is probably a scam or robbery or police setup in the US. Hookers NEVER lower their prices for anything. Even if they are losing money they would rather see one dude who pays them $700 than two guys that pay $350. They hate men.

>>29273976
That's how it is in a lot of Europe too. "oh they are forced into it" this whores make more money than surgeons. The reason why they were forced is because fucking is easy studying for ten to fifteen years is hard. Plus a lot of them use this as blackmail and it really shows how if you are a below average guy you're just fucked entirely. Human contact is an insane luxury and you're lucky if you even get a hug. I kinda wish society just sent us off to huge fuck off wars instead of this long drawn out process where we rot with no hope. At least in a war like that I can force a bitch at gunpoint to do what I want or her face gonna go missing lol

>>29273664
> Whoremonger - someone who consorts with prostitutes

>>29268416
Went to Bangkok for 2 weeks in the peak of the hot season. I think it is definitely worth checking out.
My brief and random hot take:

- gogo bars - plenty of bangable chicks; no 9s or 10s but definitely cute girls; if they are drunk on lady drinks, you might luck out and get BBFS as I did
- freelancers - I LOVED trolling up and down the streets checking them out; sooo many; hottest girl I had was a Kenyan streetwalker; their service is hit or miss though
- thermae cafe (Bangkok) - hottest freelancers; they can be rather selective; see who you can pull; more for the looks than service I'd say
- Thai Friendly - got a massage from a girl off this app who then allowed bare back; didn't use it much
- massage parlors / nuru spas etc - I had mostly good service; had some very hot girls; BBBJ but all CFS
- Ladyboys - they are everywhere; I did not partake; I won't lie...I was tempted by a few; some are incredibly hot

I think next time I will focus more on drunk gogo girls for more uninhibited service (Thai girls are little obsessed with condoms.) - also you can tell whose vibe you like by buying them some drinks. Also going to try some Thai friendly dates to hang with some non-pros and see what happens; I wouldn't mind banging some average, sex-starved, office worker MILFs. Such encounters usually result in the best sort of nasty, uninhibited sex. By the end of the 2 wks, my cock could barely feel a thing with a condom on.

I daydream about going back all the time.

>>29274204
Not my clips but I use BackgroundVideoRecorder on an android phone. Usually use a burner phone Galaxy S10 as it has the front cut out camera on the top right corner, Have it barely poking our of the corner of my pants/short pocket. Makes it a little less conspicuous. Still get noticed some time though.

>>29268982
You can get a desperate 4AM streetwalker for 1000 baht or less.

You can get a decent looking street walker for 2000-2500.

You can get a hottie at Thermae for 3000-3500.

You can get a hottie at a go go bar for 5000-6000 realistically after bar fine and drinks.

You can go to a high end massage parlor and pay 8000-10000 baht. Or even more.

Not sure about LB cost - I think 1000 more.

>>29274885
>the highest end most expensive is still under $400

I hate America so much lol

>>29274912
Well hold your horses...
I calculated total expense for my trip including discounted flights, a modest AirBNB, meals, mongering, etc.

That total divided by the # of girls I had = $315 per woman! That is cheaper than I pay in US, but for extra $150 in US I can BBFSCIP no questions asked each time.

So it's kind of a wash. But the sheer spectacle of it is worth going in my opinion. I had sooo many different types:
- shy incall massage that let me DATY and finger bang her ass
- Kenyan girl (10/10)
- drunk, bleach blond 23ish year old 7/10 bar girl who at one point just let me slip it in, no objection
- a fun vietnamese girl
- multiple college girl types at Thermae
- a few insanely hot, slender, long Chinese type women
- a little 85 pound cheerleader type with perfect ass - she seemed 19 or 20.

You're just not going to get that sort of variety (and youth) in the US. But honestly, service in US is 1 or 2 tiers higher than Thailand IMHO. K-girls here really take care of me.

>>29274950
The last five escorts I've seen were around $600-$700/hr and in their late 30s, maybe deadpan 4s at best besides the Asian girl who body wise was a 7 or 8 but face wise was like a 4 as well. Where I live you can't get BBFSCIP at ALL and I've had some threaten to send me home for just suggesting it. Youngest girl I've ever been with was 25 and she was considered very young. Almost all of them were overweight(because thats what you do when you are in a career that regularly makes thousands in a day, get fat and not take care of yourself).

For me the problem would be the flight itself and trying to explain to my extremely nosy family why I am suddenly taking a solo trip to Thailand as a single man. Plus I would need someone to watch my pets too. It's all annoying as hell and I wish I could just, you know, not be completely fucking barred from relationships with zero hope of ever changing it

>>29271197
>she

>>29273366
May potentially be correlated but being a whore and having good business acumen are not generally found together. Some exceptions obviously but if they ended up whores through circumstance they probably weren't the best with money prior to being a whore either.

>>29275004
Angle I'm thinking of is a trip to Japan (gamer/weeb), which it would but with a day or two in Thailand in there on the way back.

>>29273433
Dude, Height means fuck all. With the caveat that you have literally anything else going for you. Being funny, skilled in some challenging but relatable hobby, looking after yourself actively improving literally any aspect of your life.

But then again you could be right and if you dont fit the singular criteria of being tall enough then you're doomed to die alone, only knowing the intimacy of your own hand, wouldn't know im under 6 foot and fucked dozens of women

>>29273902
Incredibly blackpilling. That stuff is forever

>>29271197
I guess this is a confession that I do have a Thai LB fantasy of being sorta raped. Like aggressively pinned and then having my dick and balls and taint and ass sucked, smacked, finger fucked, having my cock slapped, spanked, bitten, etc.

In the fantasy LB's cock is long, fat, and drippy. As I am pinned in a 69 position, it flops all over my face as I am being used and abused and "her" balls and scrotum are dangling on my face. I am a little grossed out at first. There is pre-cum on my lips. Ew. Eventually I start to at least lick the shaft and balls a bit. Soon I am being face fucked bare without a choice. I am shocked that suddenly a threshold has been crossed and I have allowed a cock to enter my mouth. I am made to try and DT but it hurts and I am gagging, coughing and drooling all over.

Suddenly I feel some cold lube on my ass, then another LB slides a cock up into me without warning. It feels way too big and I am concerned I am being barebacked. Then I am impaled from both ends relentlessly. One forms a sort of cock ring around my cock and balls with "her" hands as the other sucks me. And they both just won't stop pumping. I can feel the energy building and the thought of tasting cum and also having it raw up my ass disgusts and scares me, but I am again given no choice.

Continued...

>>29275242
Part 2...

I am revolted by the cum in my mouth. And finally I am allowed to cum too as I pump down LB#1's throat, relieved, but also so disgusted and ashamed with myself, feeling like such a fucking degenerate, and now what the hell am I? A faggot? A cock gobbler?

I am a little shocked that this interests me. It gets me incredibly aroused, but I have never come close. When push comes to shove and this person is saying "Hey handsom, Where you go? I go with you baby", I am tempted but then think, oh wait! he has a dick! Does not compute! And it's hard to imagine actually going through with it. And yet a part of me wishes I could do this just once without it meaning I am a fag lolllll. I am sure some will say I already am.

>>29270888
Nice trips. Anyway, just get a classy sugar baby and go on a "normal" date first. The kind of girl to do that is both far less likely to be a cop and give you AIDS. Also wear a condom of course.

>>29275198
Do you live in the US? Are you genz? No? OK then. Idk if you know this but young women want tall guys, or at least guys over 6ft because that is normal now. If you don't match that criteria you are already in a hole. I fit every category you mentioned, and yet, it doesn't matter, because women DO NOT FUCKING CARE about anything you just mentioned. It drips with male logic. "if I do this I get this" transactional mindset. In reality no one I know who has been with women has had to be funny, dress well, work out, etc. I just mentioned a dude who literally has a skin condition and is a depressed alcoholic. Still gets girls though. For some people there is literally zero hope for whatever reason. Today it's not being tall, next it's not being whatever. No matter what the standard shifts to absolutely positively make sure this subset of guys never reproduce.

And plus, even if I did "Le improooove" tell a woman totally loves me I wouldn't want to be with one. Because I know if I lose even one of those attributes, if I relax even a little bit, she's gone. Relationship fucking done. So sorry man, I don't think you offer anything compared to my and many othera life experience. You are privileged and got lucky enough to dodge the filter that is relentless and brutal. You can't offer anything just like I can't offer anything to women. We are two totally different species.

>>29275176
Not surprised. Many of them seem to go broke fast. Which explains why they are charging wayyy more than they should be with the average salary where I live barely being $55k. Like yeah, charge almost a week's wages for an hour. Insane.

>>29275186
Not a bad idea at all. I was debating going to Japan but again it's the solo trip part that's going to piss off my family to an extreme degree. I feel like eventually I'm gonna have to cut them off because I don't feel like an adult at all. My dad flat out told me he keeps track of me so much because he failed at raising me and I turned out a failure. No surprise there.

>>29275774
I'm 6'3", does that mean it's not over for me? I'm depressed and awkward as well.

Attempt 34 at asking if anyone tried a Russian whore off Tinder in Dubai, and if it's worth the $200.

>>29275851
It means you have passed the bar for being a human. Doesn't mean you are a man yet but advice now works on you because you aren't trying to make an animal act like a human. I don't make the rules I just notice how women act with them.

>>29275902
If it's fs and it's $200 I'm sure it's not too bad. I've never been to Dubai because imo it's a hot wheels ass city and is in general tacky but I'm sure somewhere here has

>>29275710
for some reason I imagine her ass to be kind of cold and sticky from sweat

>>29273453
Edmonton has quite a few 'massage' parlors, might get a quick rubdown then you go right to the Bj and fs. It's about 250-350/h.
Montreal has out call AGENCIES and independents , about the same price. Get on MERB, they all advertise on there and I would say it's safe as in no BnS.

So had a great experience on July 4th weekend at one AMP I randomly gave a shot. 8/10 tiny asian girl BBBJ FS CIM the works. But for some reason I cant seem to find motivation to get out of the house and give it a shot again. I keep planning on doing it all week then sit at home and do jack shit until its too late to try then spend the entire next day/night doing the same damn thing. WTF is wrong with me. Travel time is a factor (its over an hour away) but still ive made that drive for mediocre experiences all the time.

>>29269365
>Halo 3 is a 2007 first-person shooter video game
Dude, Halo 3 is old enough to post here

>>29274204
Mine were shot in Montreal where they have out call agencies that would come to my hotel room.
I just had a camera in a bag, pushed back far enough so you couldn't see the lense and thrn zoomed in a little so you didn't see the bag.

>>29275935
It's definitely FS, I've done some Asians there. I hate UAE too, but I get cheap plane tickets through there...

I'm just wondering if Russians are as cold as they seem, making the experience less enjoyable...

>>29275774
The only thing between you and getting girls is this retarded mindset you have. "Uh-oh life's not fair it's not my fault it's my genetics" cry me a river mf there are endless short ugly chubby mfs getting pussy every day. You just have a loser mindset. Stop being such a crybaby and take responsibility for yourself. You wanna stop being a virgin? Start understanding what women want and work toward that. Height is just ONE small factor and it is by no means exclusive. Literally every one of your ancestors had sex you self-victimizing fuck.

I met my most recent girlfriend in a massage parlor. We hit it off so we'll that we were In loving relation for 2years.. She had the body of a goddess and we were in love but she was a bit too crazy and traumatized.. Things ended. Now I have to live with the fear that she would go back and do that shit for money. Shit hurts af. Legit if you're handsome enough and you rizz you can get their numbers, but don't be creeps.

>on a dry spell
>on vacation in Vegas with friends
>leaving peppermill by myself to go back to hotel and get changed before meeting with friends
>ask uber driver if he knows of any parlors, tells me of one
>we cancel ride and I give him $10 to bring me there instead
>he tells me he can wait if i want and I said no
>go inside, wrong door, is a fly by night lawyer office
>go in the other door, no one is there and i'm debating leaving
>suddenly an asian woman in her late 40s comes out from behind a curtain and asks, just one?
>we go into the back and theres a younger asian woman, maybe in her late 20s
>she tells me to undress and she comes back as i'm lying on my stomache
>she spends 15 minutes rubbing my shoulders and back and moves down to my legs
>as shes massaging my legs she starts to graze my dick and i'm getting hard
>she asks me to flip over and she is still rubbing my legs and grazing my balls more
>as she makes her way up and shes massaging my shoulders she leaned in and asked if i want extra for $60
>i give her cash, and she tells me to lay back down and she asks if i want kitty or just mouth. i said both.
>sucks me off for a bit. was worried about no condom but ended up fine
>she starts deepthroating and asks if i'm ready for more
>she puts a condom on me
>straddles me on top and starts riding
>shes moaning in my ear and breathing heavy as she grinds and then asks me if i want her a different way but i'm enjoying it
>shes going faster and faster and her co-worker peaks in and asks if its okay
>i said yes and she comes over and starts rubbing my shoulders while still getting fucked
>coworker starts kissing my neck and says i can cum in her mouth if i want
>feeling like i'm about to bust
>cum in condom while shes fucking me
>she gets off and both of them start sucking me off afterwards
>they ask if i want to finish massage and i said yes
>they give me more massage for ten minutes or so and i leave

>>29276263
>there's tons of short ugly cubby mfers getting pussy every day
>work towards what women want and IMPROVE BRO

Incoherent advice. Just admit you never had to work or do anything to get a woman and move on. I will repeat again, and again, it doesn't matter what you do. Some people are genuinely cursed and I think if you are below average in some major way, like being short(which is a MASSIVE DEAL in the US for young women btw), it makes it even harder.

And every one of my ancestors had sex because they were smart enough to not give women a choice. If you put me in a country where women couldn't vote, open a bank account or work a job I guarantee I wouldn't have this problem just like my ancestors didn't. This entire problem is caused by women not being oppressed. Give them a choice and they will filter a majority of men and there is fuck all you can do about it. Your "advice" is fucking worthless. You have zero life experience at all if you are saying what you are saying. Stop replying to me you fucking retard.

>>29276176
They can't be worse than the girls I've paid 3x that amount to fuck in the US

>>29273902
Thanks for your post. I’m going to only get handjobs moving forward. Well and footjobs.

>>29276331
Afraid of STDs but not afraid of toe fungus? Do you want athletes foot on your junk?

>>29276362
Stds that can be cured now too. Only thing I would fear is hiv but you can go on prep for that too. Too many people here are outing themselves as total virgins

>>29276395
You can’t cure herpes you disease ridden faggot.

>>29276413
You mean the thing most people just have by default? Look if you are planning on having a wife and kids some day maybe you shouldn't go fucking around with hookers. Some of us know that's never going to happen so having herpies really doesn't matter. I don't have any and I've raw dogged around six hookers. Even if I did catch it the effects wouldn't be life changing or show stopping. I would just wait for the flair up to go away then do my one or two fucks a year. Because I will never have a woman in my life. Accidentally giving some random woman herpies isn't my problem and if she gives it to a guy who is in a relationship he can go fuck himself, he deserves it. He's being extremely greedy with the luxury of love he's been given. This is all I can hope to get in life.

>>29276440
You’re right I need to leave this thread. My disease disgust threshold is so high I just like voyueristically living through you anons which is fucking worse actually lmao

>>29276308
Femanon here : your opinions are why you're alone, if ur too retarded to even talk to a woman you're too retarded to fuck one. i can promise u that the sole reason that u get no pussy is because u behave like this and u have a shit personality. stop being such a self loathing faggot and we might give u some puss

>>29276458
I get invited to hang out with my coworkers after work regularly and go out with my friends to different things regularly. The conversations I have with women are usually all positive and I can make them laugh easily. You both seem to skirt around the fact that I have seen OPENLY SELF LOATHING faggots get puss while I get fucking nothing. I bitch online. I don't bitch or show this irl. Oh, you guys didn't read that or think of that. At this point I don't care. The level a woman would have to reach to make the lifetime of bullshit worth it is inhuman. There is no way any woman could repair it, no way I would just one day go "oh now women are fine". After dealing with this shit for nearly 25 years(I'm 30 now) I'm done. Take your advise and shove it up your ass, it's the only place that's gonna give a shit.

Always wanted to fuck a midget but idfk how to find one to hire anyone have any tips?

>>29270972
Prostitution is actually illegal in Japan they just use the loop holes and he'll have to find a place that won't send a Chinese/Korean women instead because they're very racist in Japan

>>29276458
>femanon
Uh, trans don’t count honey. Back to plebbit with you

>>29276473
Bro, I know where you're coming from. I know its fucking retarded advice, but I really hope you can get past all this and think about women as little as possible. Some people don't get that for some of us it really is impossible. But that shouldn't stop you from enjoying what you can of life. I know it sucks to be deprived of something that everyone wants and that most people get without trying, but maybe it will help you to know that most people are miserable anyway. Personally, I'm glad that I'm not going to be enslaved some mid woman. That's how I cope anyway

>>29276486
The other massively coping dude decided to put on his female persona to try to shame me into thinking everything is totally my fault and totally in my control. As if anything in my life involving women is fixable. It isn't. At the end of the day no matter what I do how I act whatever I will be rejected for man children and dudes who are objectively worse than me, they are just humans and not subhumans

>>29276497
Yeah I try to cope by telling myself at least I'm not in a shitty abusive relationship, or that I have a bunch of child support to pay or whatever. It just sucks due to the lack of choice I guess? Like the door to a relationship was slammed shut hard and is impossible to ever be opened again and that's fairly sad since I always wanted to feel love growing up. Then hookers got so fucking expensive. I end up losing my shit again like a month after seeing one. A month of mental clarity and then I'm back. I really wish I had no sexual or romantic wants at all but it's basically impossible to control. My main way of doing so is meditating and under eating. That seems to curve my libido a bit but I would be lying if I said I wasn't waiting for something to kill me

>>29276523
Yeah man I get it. I also meditate. I tried a sensory depravation tank recently and liked that. I find massages (not sexual ones) are a cheaper alternative when I am really craving human touch. I'd also suggest lifting/running. I find working out curbs my loniness more than undereating, and I like feeling stronger. But yeah, no matter what I do, I do lose it every now and then

>>29272625
Just play the field. You'll get rejected a lot. Deal with it. You'll eventually find someone just as desperate as you.

>>29276576
Have you considered that he might not want someone ugly?

>>29276509
Yeah, well, if it’s any consolation I am white/6’3” turning 30 this year. I only had one relationship and the bitch cheated on me with short ugly dudes with small dicks. She did a lot worse than that to me but it really fucked up my already negative numbers self esteem. I have fucked at least 20 escorts since I turned 21. Lost my virginity to one for ffs. Anyway I get zero attention from most women and that’s when I’m trying. I give up on this once great country man. These bitches are so damn picky that they ALL think they’re gonna end up with some millionaire 6’8” gigachad to supply them with everything they need. Giving women rights was a jewish trick (communism) which actually works in unison with capitalism to keep us all fucked. They hate white people of european decent and won’t stop until they have feminized, murdered or downright enslaved us all. Notice how all these bitches seethe when guys import wives from other countries? Men are supposed to just pay/support a system that’s actively trying to destroy them.

>>29276576
yeah and how long will she last? a few days? a week maybe? how long before she gets bored and finds someone else? And then what, you have to go through another hundred or so rejections before you find another?

>>29276550
I have never tried sensory deprivation but seems interesting. As for massages as a apparently young dude(i guess 30 is still young?) i cant go into them unless they offer happy endings because the girls there just assume in there for that and tell me they are full or cant take me or whatever. I feel like no matter what, no girl wants to touch me. I shower every day, wear clean clothes, groom myself, wear deodorant or cologne , etc and they treat me as if i am some disgusting thing that cant ever be touched. I dont even get tapped on the shoulder, they are just afraid to even touch me and if i touch them i can tell it wasnt good for them, it was scary or gross to them. Escorts act this way, normal girls act this way. Even if i pay them they still act like they hate me and have zero empathy for me. Not even pretend empathy. I am not a human being to them and no amount of convincing will tell me otherwise.

>>29276631
Bro you can book normal massages online. I did one recently and a cute eastern European milf gave me a great back massage and we just chatted. I'm younger than you too. But I get what you mean with the feeling of being disgusting. I'd just say you're probably normal. Its not very comforting, bit normal looking guys are not touched by woman. I crave human touch too

>>29276653
Ive had them cancel the online appointments before. So i just stopped trying. If i get a massage its going to have a handjob attached to it. Funny thing is its not much more than a regular massage. As for that being normal for guys, no, at least not where i live. Its normal for turbo online dudes but a majority of guys around me arent single for decades at a time. Maybe a year tops. I keep having people try to tell me this even in my personal life and its objectively not true or they are assuming i mean a minor dry spell of a couple months when i mean ten to eleven fucking years of totally nothing. No interest, no reciprocation, nothing.

>>29276617
You have a better chance than i do being a normal height. Might as well go back out there and try. Idk where you live but in the us being a height that is seen as normal helps. I agree with everything else you said fuck the jews/elites.

>>29267523 (OP)

What's the best place for mongering in Europe as a tourist? Mostly talking about quality of escorts (mostly looks) vs. how easy it is to find them vs. price

>>29276682
At least where I am, loads of guys are single for ages. But yeah usually eventually they get something. Anyway man, I wish you the best. Give lifting a try if you feel like it, sensory depravation too

South African Monger here. Its not legal here but they advertise as "escorts" and "massage therapists".
Lots of variety. Couple of websites available that list by race, speciality etc.
Lots of Asians, Brazilians and Eastern Europeans, even Thai Ladyboys(Jasmine was here for a month).
Fees are decent, but this is Africa so There's that. Around 90usd an hour for a pretty girl, 60usd for a potato. The Russians and Brazilians are more expensive, usually around 140usd. A Black can be had for like 40usd an hour.
My current go to is this Thai massage chain. I've been checking out the different venues and their girls. What's interesting is that the nicer the venue the younger the girls.

I have a choice, I know of some prostitutes that are decently priced, and are bio women, but I met a transwoman who said she'd let me fuck her just for the company, I don't know if I could deal with her having a dick though... I wonder if I should just pony up the 500 and fuck the women, but the women are some trailer trash landwhales, they're just the ones in the area offering bareback (though they're also AA friendly) what do I do?

>>29276769
How are you only finding landwhales for 500?

>>29276719
Any in George?

>>29274204
While I never got positive answers to my suggestion I recall to anyone that every phone can be turned to an audio recorder. I have recorded every sexual meeting since 2016 and have a collection of hundreds of my fucks with pay girls. I do always outcall meetings at the girl place so setting up the phone for video recording wouldn't be easy and the girls aren't so naive not to notice some kind of strange moves to place the phone lens on target. Audio recording? Just start the recording before showing up to her and shut it when you've left.
And yes, they do work for later fapping purposes: you have the video in your memory and the sound associated to that, you won't remember every fuck but those that were worth can still be used to cum buckets !

>>29276838
America. I know exactly what he is talking about. Most show pics of themselves edited to look skinnier because that's easier than losing 70lbs(and still be chubby). I hate it and it's got to the point where I've walked out on two $600/hr girls because I get there and they weigh double what they said they do. I feel like you should charge by your attractiveness. A fatass can't be higher than $200/hr

Have tried a few of the massage places, but unless you target the ones that offer nude/adult massages, you are out of luck. Some ads on that massage site will clearly mention that the massage ends in an ultimate stress release or some clever wording with 'ecstatic pleasure' being the ultimate aim or similar.

But even then, you could land up with a girl that is 10 years older than her pictures. The girls are hesitant to be open about what they offer

>>29277026
In my experience the girl is usually twenty years older than me at least. That's usually how's its been with escorts and massage parlors. It's to the point where I am more attracted to older women than girls my own age or younger. I see younger girls as total rejection and someone who hates me while older women made me cum dozens of times and cuddled.

Finding parlors though is tricky as hell. Usually if they are fine with you getting totally naked you're in.

>>29276881
Slim pickings around there as it's far away from everything. Mostly blacks and white grannies.
In the Western Cape the hotspots are the CBD and Tableview.
You can check for yourself on esa or redvelvet(.co.za).

Everyone in these videos are so ugly and brown.

>>29276982
They are all like that. Here they edit their pictures to make them not look black. Which is silly as how are you going to hide that when it comes time to do the deed.

>>29267523 (OP)
Should I go find a walker to get head from tonight?

>>29277075
They assume suck time at that point. Most dudes just go "aight" because lying pussy is better than no pussy

>>29276509
not trans, just showed the thread to my wife and she wanted to diss you

Anyone available to help me see reviews on a spot on rubmaps?

>>29277089
Yes but you should return the favour and suck her dick too!

>>29274173
dude litterally just have a job so you have money and go to an AMP if you just want to fuck. It's not an intimate loving relationship but If you wanna not be a virgin it's really that ez.

>>29277695
>"hehe I got my wife, who is totally real, to go on 4chan,and diss this CHUD INCEL on a fucking whore mongering thread, a thread meant for SOLICITING PROSTITUTION, man I sure owned him"

Dude just stop lol

>>29276111
Which Agencies in Montreal

East Bay Area/CoCo wanna lose my virginity anyone willing to spoon feed me? I can't take this anymore

>>29278100
Can you be more specific on area? I need cities. I might be able to find a Asian Massage Parlor that does FS for you but i have no idea what East Bay or Coco is.

I want to go to an AMP soon, but I'm new at this. Any advice? Specifically, should I bring my own condoms? How much cash do they usually ask for for FS? How do I know it's not a sting? Is it better to be a walk-in, or book an appointment, if I want to avoid LE?

>>29276473
Dude absolute incel talk. Have you done any kind of self improvement over the past month? Probably not.

Stop the woe is me bullshit and try and actually do something for yourself, it's pathetic and the women you hang around with smell that shit.

Go for a run, hit the gym, get some mental clarity in that your current mindset you're not going to amount to shit in life. Restart this shit , its not easy but it get easier once you start getting an ounce of confidence in yourself.

>>29278132
booking an appointment or not doesn't matter. it's for your convenience, if you get asked for someone you're obviously there for a massage, so what?
I'd rather bring my own condoms, just in case they don't have any

How would go about getting a skipthegames girl banned? The proof I give is never good enough. It seems they literally only care about deposit scams.

>>29278165
I stopped self improving like two or so years ago after i failed completely at that, after 13 years of trying, i just stopped trying. Not only that though, the vision i had for myself puts me at the top like 20-30% of men. I hit the gym, i ran, i tried to dress better, i tried to make more money, i failed. Im done fighting against what is inevitable. Call it incel talk but i genuinely think some people are just born this way. I have no idea why i am such a failure effortlessly but i put so much effort into trying, and no one believes me besides the people who knew me, who saw me counting calories, eating tell i was about to throw up, going to the gym 3 times a week, talking to industry professionals, talking in front of a mirror and watching charisma videos. And yet, i failed. And i got beat by people who never had to do any of that, they are entitled to love, so i am BEYOND entitled to it, to the point where what the world owes me is so much that its not realistic.

>>29278187
What did she do?

>>29278202
Stop talking like the world owes you anything - it doesn't.

Shit is harder for some and easier for others, thats just a fact of life. You have to understand that your current mindset is not going to allow you any of the opportunities that you clearly want. Stop hyper focusing on pussy and the 20-30% of where you want to be. Start working towards steps that make you even 1% less self loathing. You're telling me that you spent 13+ years on bettering yourself and you didn't feel even an ounce of self positivity during that span?

I'm not a giga chad here, im under 6 feet, was a fat fuck for the better part of my adult life. Im 6 years older than you, and started talking meaningful step to make improve my situation in my late 20s. That includes fitness and mindset. You are not going to get anything you want in life if you hate yourself and blame everyone else for your hurdles.

Unless you're a quadruple amputee with a micro dick, what's really your excuse here?

Also whores are awesome, i love them, and am married, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

>>29268524
Source

>>29278132
Dont park in front of the place park away from it a bit and walk to it. Dont bring your wallet with you just have the cash. Burner phone is best or use something thats conceals your phone number like Google Voice or I use the free version of TextNow. Cost for FS depends. You have the house fee (how much the base massage costs) then the tip. My area tip for FS is a 160-200 tip now (so up to 280 total for the expensive places). It may be less or more depending on area and options. If its a FS place they will have condoms. Finding a place use rubmaps advanced search. Select the City and services you are wanting and hit search. It can give you an idea on cost too to help narrow it down if you have multiple options if you select the tip range options.

>>29278264
Not going to find a source, its original content posted in the last few monger threads by the dude in the clip himself.

>>29278241
>You have to understand that your current mindset is not going to allow you any of the opportunities that you clearly want.

I cant force reality to happen except by accepting said reality and realizing what i want will never happen. Theres too much complexity. Not only that, i have been rejected too many times for girls who arent dating chads or guys i would consider put together or successful, but for guys who are absolute losers and manchildren. Im not going to bust my ass to just be begrudgingly taken by women who seem to have some inability to logically pick dudes who arent falling apart. This also means i am logically worse than they are according to women which is such an insult i just want to tell all of them to go fuck themselves. I live an interesting and fun life, they dont want to be part of it, so be it.

> You're telling me that you spent 13+ years on bettering yourself and you didn't feel even an ounce of self positivity during that span?

Not really, because i failed at improving in a significant way. At this point for me to be with a woman i have to totally change who i am as a person completely. I have to be a different person for a group that i think is retarded and needs to have their rights taken away yesterday because they are so bad at decision making.

>Im 6 years older than you

So you grew up in a time period where dating was less cut throat and women hated men less. Must have been nice. I caught the tail end of it and is the only reason why i had my only relationship at 18. Didnt last long.

>You are not going to get anything you want in life if you hate yourself and blame everyone else for your hurdles.

I agree with that but part of the reason for my hurdles is because i cant reach whatever most people consider human and i think thats because im not considered human by default. I cant become a human being. Ive been taught this for over a decade now. I will never be a human.

>>29278295
This is so fucking paranoid. Also most women at least in my experience will not see you if you use a google voice or textnow. They will not even respond. This is the norm now at least where i live.

>>29278132
If its an established AMP just bring what you want, you dont have to bring condoms they will have them for you there. As for FS depends heavily on the area, i would browse eccie and ask some of the members there for what they pay in your area. The guy above me said $280 but if you live where i live fs is usually around $300 at the most dumpster but $600 on the average. You can try to negotiate it but as a first timer youre going to be too nervous to do that probably. You know its not a sting by the way it sounds. Are they being super open about sexual stuff? Are they seemly trying to get you to talk about sexual stuff? Sometimes police do try to bust in those places but usually not that often. You were there for a massage, thats it, keep quiet and dont try to incriminate yourself. Ive parked both up close and a ways away for amps and i really dont think it matters. I honestly think being as casual as possible works the best, shifty people stand out, people who dont give a fuck blend in.

>>29278328
I should also note FS for AMPs at least where i live(the midwest) is EXTREMELY rare. At best you'll get L2 but getting to L3 is usually forbidden completely. Theres a good chance the place you are looking at straight up doesnt offer it at all and if they do, they only do it for an extremely high cost. One quoted me $1500 to give you an idea. No i didnt pay that lmao gtfo of here. I could go to thailand and fuck a dozen women far hotter for that cost

>>29268013
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS

>>29278241
why does every monger thread result into fucking nigger faggot self help guru giving the same shit fuck piss advice and platitudes everyone already heard 100 times. Just fucking post monger shit or piss off

>>29278364
Thank you, its my problem for even replying to this guy but i guess theres a part of me that cant help it. I chose hookers for a reason, because women dont want me and continue to not want me. No advice is going to work on me because i dont meet the bar to begin with. Theres no way to turn a subhuman human and i dont know why no one understands this.

>>29271197
kek. i fucked this 5 foot filipino tranny last month. absolutely insane head like no real girl even came close to this tranny. anal sex is mid desu. came so deep in her she had to go to work with my cum still inside her lol.

>>29275786
Its the same as restaurants going out of business, they chase revenue by raising prices, increasing theoretical margins. They dont resolve the initial problems that led to their problems and chase lost profits.

Average whores are probably not in a good situation if they have to sell their bodies to make ends meet or their work ethic extends as wide as their legs.

>>29278328
On the parking thing some places near me got busted. At one a dude was in there when the cops came in the front door but the girls wisked him out the back. Issue though his truck was in the parking lot which was now surrounded by cops cars. They ran the plates and waited for him. Dont know if the dude was stupid enough to get into more trouble when talking with the cops but may have avoided even having to talk with them in the first place if he had parked elsewhere.
And on the phone thing do tell how they can tell its not a legit number? I am legit curious cause the free numbers i get from TextNow are the same area code and first 3 digits as any other numbers in that area.

>>29275774
This post is a deep insight into your mentality around relationships. Be introspective and think about how your interactions with women are and how you would like them to be.

Realistically, do you go in to encounters with women who interest you and think of ways to get between their legs? Your post reeks of a sad lonely individual angry at the world for being cursed with genetics or personality traits that are not ideal.

Every relationship I've had and every time I've had sex I haven't been out their actively hunting for it. I make a genuine connection with a woman and enjoy the conversation, and sometimes I get laid sometimes I dont, sometimes I get shut down and other times I lose interest and stop pursuing anything.

The decks stacked against me probably worse than you my dude, I'm Asian and I only go for white women, I'm not tall but Im funny and well built but I didnt work on my personality or physique for the sole purpose of getting laid. When I was a teenager I had trouble getting laid for various reasons but when I stopped giving a shit about it I had more sex than I cared for.

I just enjoy making people laugh, being memorable and feeling good in my own body. Have these characteristics helped me? Definitely.

You can't change your genes but you can change nearly everything else. The easiest thing to change is your mindset around relationships, sex isn't some holy grail that you need to march on Jerusalem for, its something that happens between people who are close.

Women are people too, they also want to have sex they'll have sex with a guy below their standards because they're desperate but they wouldn't piss on a desperate guy if he was on fire if they thought he'd want to talk to them again.

Tl;dr stop being so desperate for sex and work on yourself for your own benefit not to get laid and it will work out for you anon.

Alternatively continue on your path and remain a bitter incel, choice is in your hands I hope you choose well.

>>29276473
You probably also come across as ingenuity or with ulterior motive, women are more perceptive than men, so you're likely giving bad vibes off the bat.

Guys like the ones you have described are unapologetically genuine and that in itself is attractive. Women have to deal with guys who will say and do anything trying to get between their legs all the time. A guy that is capable of admitting his life is a train wreck and he abuses alcohol and drugs to stave off killing himself is 1000x more attractive than a guy that does everything to try and get laid.

>>29278439
This

>>29271059
Free circumcision

>>29278364
Based post. I am so tired of this gay shit. I just want to fuck whores in peace.
>AWW BOOHOO I UGLY NEED GORLFREN OOH
FAGGOTS
Go get a massage or something fucking loser. This is the best hobby in the world and you can do it alone.

I paid to fuck an 18, 19 max, year old girl in Osaka. Her pussy was so tight I could barely get my dick in her - and once I got in, I could feel it tugging on me whenever I pulled back. Like it was trying to wring out my soul through my nuts. She was definitely new to the profession.

I paid just $120USD for the pleasure... I want to go back.

>>29278123
contra costa county. I'm blueballed to infinity. Give me a tight or big melon source. I'm also into dark tantric yoga but only if the girl is actually Indian

>>29278692
Cant give specifics but this is what i came up with via Advanced Search. Try either of these in Concord -
We Spa Massage
1800 Monument Blvd Ste I

Clayton Day spa
4701A Clayton Rd

Cant help with body types but thats what came up with BBBJ and CFS in the last 3 months.

>>29278616
what year was this in? thinkin about going myself8HDAY

>>29278616
I paid 60 dollars for a 19 year old latina street girl. Amazing pussy I cummed fast even after drinking all night and fucking 3 women in the club. She was a cunt tho, didn't remove any clothes and it was very transactional. So I fucked her really hard and deep. But I got what I paid for not complaining.

>>29274196
I had gonno from a bj. Got an injection of antibiotics in my shoulder and took the pills for a week. I knew it immediately the next day I didn't wait for it to start burning like some retarded people do. I don't understand that. I knew immediately when my dick didn't feel right.

>>29274950
>>29274885
>>29274862


Any suggestions on massage parlers in Bangkok and Phucket?

>>29274196
Bro did someone convince you that pissing is a good protection against STDs?

>>29278930
I'd say it's bullshit but there is some logic behind flushing germs off your mucous membranes instead of letting them multiply as much as they want. same logic as washing your hands

is this a good idea for someone who is immune suppressant and on immune suppressant medications?

You want a real story?
>got a hotel in the hotspot where all the action is for 3 days
>bought some cheap soap and other toiletries from the market across the street
>two packs smokes, flask of tequila
>bring this 45 year old guatemalteca lady to my room for an hour and pound her out for a solid half hour
>I lay there on her titties for the rest of the time, sucked her nipples a little, sweet lady, big mommy milkers big nipples
>pay her 50 dollars, she leaves
>shower and shave
>keep going from the bar next door back to my room to take shots of my tequila, just endless beers and shots
>totally wasted now, chain smoking talking to every stranger and woman I see
>requesting random hip-hop songs at the bar
>get some coco from my waiter friend
>literally dump the bag into my nostril in the bathroom, in one go
>a guy I was drinking with at the bar sucks my dick in the bathroom, we were interrupted
>might have been kicked out don't remember
>end up down the street at the gay bar
>they have like this drag queen performance where she's singing Amy Winehouse and looks just like her
>I walk up to the stage, tons of people eyefucking me, grabbing my hands, my arms, men, women, trans
>stuffing dollars in her bra, patting her ass lightly, she's dancing around in my face
>then I end up dancing around encircled by all these gay guys and trans
>someone pulls my dick out, I was hard, I laughed and zipped my pants back up
>"ooh grande blah blah" said some other shit in Spanish I didn't understand
>I keep kissing this one trans girl that's just sitting on the barstool watching all of us dance around
>shouting to her about how she's beautiful, feeling her all up, rubbing my dick on her, she's grabbing it
>red hair, natural body, slim latina, pretty face, wanted to fuck her so bad
>she has cigarette breath and smells sweaty (male body odor) like she was out all night
>I do not give a fuck she's so hot, actually kinda turned me on, the dirty bitch
It gets worse, this was day one.

My first and so far only time:
>Was out of town for a weekend, four hour drive from home and staying one night before driving back the next day.
>Wake up at 4:30 for no damn reason, feeling horny despite a little self relief last night. Start browsing the hub on mobile before getting the urge to see if there's a local brothel.
> Urge confuses me since never used one before but figure what the hell, it's been nearly a year since last relationship and no chance of someone recognising the car.
>Find a place, 24hr, ring and ask if there's an opening now, told yes, brush teeth and drive over.
>Let in, older Asian woman and short, decent curves, seems she's the only worker on a Sunday morning, shows me to room
>She can barely speak English, talks into her phone to translate most, pay her and ask to start with a shower together, probably my favourite way to warm up
>We start 'cleaning' each other, I get hard quickly and considering our height difference I'm poking her in the back.
>Dry off, she leads me to the bed, sits me down and without a word starts sucking me off. After lurking on here I had expected a covered blow but no, just pulled back the foreskin and started.
>I'm running my hands through her hair, touching her body where I can reach and after several minutes pulls back and asks if I want a condom.
Hell yes, the blow was a nice surprise but I'm not that reckless.
1/2

>>29279211
2/2
>She reaches into a well organised drawer and finds a cover for me, puts it on them lubes me and herself up before climbing onto the bed.
>Remembering the size difference I start slow, she gasps but says she's okay when I stop, making a rhythm. Playing with her breasts and nipples. Second tightest woman I've been with.
>Decide I want to go on my back, withdraw and she starts to get off the bed thinking I'm finished
Again, little English
>Gesture I want her on top, she understands and starts her cowgirling, less than five minutes later she's tired and gets off. Pity, I liked how she was moving her hips.
>Back to missionary, start kissing her neck and upper chest, can't go any lower or I'll hurt my neck.
>She starts saying something in Chinese, no idea what and begins kissing my neck in response.
>Several more minutes of this before I finish. Just a few minute or two of afterglow before she wipes herself down then heads back to the shower.
>Shower myself and get dressed, before being escorted out she puts her hand to my chin and says a heavily accented 'So handsome'. Don't care if it's true or not, still nice to hear.
No regrets but haven't tried it again since, maybe next time I travel somewhere.

>>29268744
it is what it is

>>29278206
>>29278187
She's a whore what else do you need?

>>29273902
How did you get oral herpes(HSV1) from a bbbj if you were receiving??? If you have it on your penis, that's HSV2, my boy. Either way, I'd kill myself lol

This is gonna seem kinda odd to ask, but I'm planning to lose my virginity to an escort and I'm paying for a whole date/overnight situation. I've never been on a date before and planning on going to a nice steakhouse with her.

What exactly do you talk to girls about on a date?

>>29269334
Christ, sex education is at an all time low..you don't catch AIDS, sir, you catch HIV. If you refuse treatment for years, it progresses to AIDS

>>29274728
Same. Been in the hobby for over a decade and I've done bbfs and bbbj. I usually lie low for two weeks then go get tested, but I guess I've been VERY lucky. I stopped cold turkey 3 years ago when my state had a news alert about the rising STD rates. Was fun while it lasted, but the risk is too high these days

>>29279716

You can never go wrong with the FORD approach: Family (or maybe stick to Friends in this case), Opportunities, Relationships, Dreams. Show active interest in what she's saying

I have an embarrassing issue that interferes with mongering. I have large amounts of blood in my cum when I ejaculate. I have seen urologists and they all say it's normal and nothing to be worried about. I have clean std checks, ultrasounds and urine tests.

Obviously this would shock most girls and I can't do CIM or even covered FS as blood can carry diseases. I want to get a hj but idk if blood on the girls hands would freak her out, any advice?

Not a troll

>>29278443
reddit nigger faggot

>>29278955
Probably not, anon.

>>29279773
>or even covered FS
Not sure if FS means Full Service and it means vaginal intercourse but what would be exactly the problem of ejaculate inside her wearing a condom? You can hide the tip with your hand and even if she notice you have already nutted... I agree it would not be a great idea fill her mouth or her body with bloody cum, tho...

>>29278731
Early 2024. I don't know if they've gotten more tourist fatigue since then, but Osaka was an open market for me. I fucked 2 other girls, one of them legitimately looked like she could have been in an idol group. It's a magical place.

>>29279896
lost my v card in Tokyo last year, there's a big market still for foreigners.

UK escort

>>29278616
Same even though the conditions of losing my v card last year in Tokyo felt like a goddamn rape film

>>29279924
how much for that thing

>>29278425
Funny enough I've been doing this since I was 25, I'm 30 now. So for five years I tried to do the whole "get genuine connections" things and no matter what, no matter what happens, it always ends with me not even getting so much as a hug while she goes and fucks some dude who is taller or has some trait I don't have. Idk why you guys cant understand this, it doesn't. Matter. What. You. Do. For some people they just get not just sex but love easily. For me I've been starved of it my entire life. I shouldn't have to list and figure out every single thing wrong with me and "improve" to fix it. I should just be good enough. But for some reason I'm not. And never will be. And at this point I've given up so much that if a girl did show interest in me I would reject her because I know it wouldn't last at all. This idea that someone would be alone for decades and the oh suddenly they are wanted. Is such bullshit. I might find a woman if I make a bunch of money, but in the end she won't be any different than a hooker. Actually she's worse, she's a hooker that lies to me and uses me. It's done. I don't know how many times I need to say this. I am committed to being alone and only using escorts and amps as my only outlet for human touch. Anything else is an abomination and unrealistic for someone in the situation I'm in.

Not only that, any I find 100% has absolutely given their body, and probably their virginity, to guys 100% worse than me. Who absolutely were out to get laid not do some hallmark movie bullshit. The fact I am supposed to not want anything from them romantically or sexually tells me everything I need to know about basically all women. They never will be attracted to me, just like a hooker never will be. So why not just stick with hookers?

>>29279896
>>29279917
>>29279928
If I wasn't planning to go to Japan with friends I would try this. Actually one of the dudes I'm going with has basically no experience with women. I wonder if I could convince him to go with me to this type of thing. He's fairly moral around sex tho so I doubt it. It would be nice to have a friend to monger with tho. Also can you explain what you mean by rape film?

>>29279716
Be careful with restaurants because a majority of the time the hour you paid for will be counted on that date. A steakhouse has slower turnaround due to it being a steakhouse. That entire hour you could just be eating and get absolutely nothing out of it. You just fed a whore who probably has more money than you do, congrats

>>29279966
it was a super sketchy room I was taken into. Basically I went to the red light district, kabuchiko, and just walking through there you are accosted by tons of black guys who speak perfect english who want you to go with them.

So I decided what the hell I might as well lose it now, I'm 30 year old kissless virgin and I'm in Tokyo so might as well. I basically respond to the guy and he takes me to a building, we go in elevator to like 12th floor and end of hall, he knocks on the door and I walk in, it's like super dark and dingy. I hand the older lady running the joint 25000 yen and give him like 2000 yen as a tip cause he kept bugging me

4 women lined up, they were clearly all south-east asians and I pointed one out. The office was divided with these super cheap bambo oriental dividers with shitty curtains shrouding the entrances, and inside the one I went in was a bunch of towels and a dirty mattress on the floor. I'll also always remember that there was one light on the wall and there was a Mcdonald's happy meal box inside the light fixture for some reason

We went in and she handed me a fresh towel and told me to get undressed and went to the shower that was like in the middle of the room and hallway, I quickly showered and washed my junk and went back into the room and she showered quickly. Then I laided down and she gave like a 2 minute massage of my thighs before starting to jerk me off. Then she pulled a condom out and put it on my dick and sucked my dick for like 2 seconds before putting me inside her and riding me. I held her boobs as she rode me for like 30 seconds before she got off and asked if I came, I didn't. Then she was gonna get into missionary but I asked for doggy. She got on all fours and helped me inside her and I fucked her doggy for like 20 seconds before blowing my load. Then she cleaned me up with some wet wipes, she asked if I wanted to shower but I got super scared and was overwhelmed and said no and ran outta there.

>>29279995
Also once I got down out of the elevator the black guy was waiting for me and said "That was fast" and tried to get me to go with him to a strip club or BJ bar or something, I said no and basically had him chase me for a block before giving up. I then went to a sushi place and ate sushi quietly thinking about all that happened

I kinda regret what I did. I don't think I'll ever get a GF or anything in my life, but if I somehow did I feel like I could never be super clear with her about losing my virginity and whatnot, it's a secret I have to take to the grave

>>29279995
Yeah sounds like some of the traveling roto Asian places around me. Sketchy as fuck. Police started getting wise on it too so they started putting out their own ads to catch people so I just don't bother with that shit anymore. Price doesn't seem too bad but they also seem super rushed. I would love to fuck a Japanese woman since I feel like they are harder to have sex with than most Asians. SEAs are easy as hell and super common but a Japanese or Korean girl is like a rare thing you know? But fuck that is a grimy place.

My first time was tricky to say. I got an erotic massage from this older British lady that used to do them in my city but we only got to l2 and I came immediately in her mouth and then on her tits and she just sort of confidently smiled and squeezed all my cum out of the tip of my 19 year old cock. My first time ever having sex though was with a smaller petite black girl and desu I'm glad I did it with her. I nearly came in her mouth immediately too but I remembered to breath and stay calm even though her big lips were gliding over my cock like an expert. I also came inside her doggy style. I might tell the story of both of them sometime

>>29279716
Seriously, DONT

>>29279924
grim

>>29279945
Actually a cracking fuck, if expensive at £120 for 30 minutes.

>>29280005
That sounds annoying as fuck. And i regretted what i did for years. I probably should have told her first i was a virgin and also got the full hour instead of a half hour. I could have also got a far hotter woman but desu as far as black girls go she was fairly attractive and her service was something you rarely ever see post-2020. Cuddling, dirty talk, etc. Thinking back to that, which is going on over a decade ago, the vibe with sex was so much different. It was new and exciting and fun and now its just dark and expensive and stressful. More than anything i just wish i didnt crave physical contact. I would be fine being alone. Its just hard.

>>29271059
Would.

>>29267523 (OP)
shit's busted in the south amps are grannies, they expect 3 fugly crack whores want 1.6+ I got with one attractive young black chick one time for 1, and she stopped, never saw her listed anywhere after and she'd never respond to any of my messages or calls. I still check the handful of sites I know every so often, more on the weekend as more pop up then, but it's all garbage, druggies and fatties with inflated self worth

>>29280070
Sounds like the midwest. On a rare occasion you get a girl who is worth the money shes asking but in my time, with the 10 or so ive seen, about 2 i would say were great and worth the money. 90% sucked ass and has no business being in this industry and charging this much.

>be me
>Horny
>Go to AMP
>HOT HOT HOT Korean babe
>Sucks my dick no condom
>Eat my ass
>Eat her pussy then ass

One week later I have herpes all over my face. Little pimples everywhere. Pus oozing from some. Everyone at work knows. Get fired later for some BS reason. I think the herps did it.

Moral of the story: always eat the pussy.

>>29280084
i must just be getting lucky or i go with women who are low volume because its crazy how i have just never gotten herpes despite eating out several girls already. I guess most of my encounters are covered and there is no DATY but still. Ive full on eating out several women who should have given me herpies and i just never got them. I wonder what the coverup is, there has to be like a cream or something that can repress them, right?

>>29280084
>>29280110
what draws you into licking a hole that takes 10000 dicks and likely took 10 just before you arrived?

>>29280117
Lust. If not we weren't there in the first place.

>>29280062
same, I often go on tryst and look at the escorts in my area and think about saving up for a few hours with one of them, maybe some day if my crypto explodes

>>29280117
Because its no different than a normal woman today anyways except if you are seeing a good escort(which i usually do) she gets tested more than some girl at a bar. Now, the girl at the bar would reject me outright unless she was super drunk but thats besides the point. In my life, i rarely get to enjoy a woman like that and i have to pay for it. So i deal with what i can. Plus its relaxing to me similar to kissing and ive found as ive gotten older i enjoy oral about as much as the sex itself. Its also good practice since these whores have insanely high tolerances so if you get one to actually cum(only been able to do it once and i knew she was cumming because her skin turned color and her butt flexed, plus she had mad goosebumps all the way down her arms) so if you can get her to cum, if the stars align and i get with a normal woman shes going to lose her fucking mind and that will help me keep her in what is the most competitive dating market in human history

>>29280158
I was just looking at ads. I am debating having sex with another older woman again. Younger women tend to be shit in my experience but i also think i should see some 20 year olds sometimes, i mean the bulk of the women ive had sex with have always been in their 30s and 40s and one who was in her 50s. Only one was in her mid 20s and thats the youngest ive gone. I also am debating seeing another pregnant woman because the last one was amazing. Her big swollen belly was so nice to rub and hold and her nipples lactated so easily that it was a nice relaxing treat in the middle of fucking her. I also want to see another asian girl too, last one i saw was like 80lbs and 4'5 and i could just fuck her against the wall so easily and she sounded so cute while i did it i literally lost to her pussy, cumming in under 5 minutes. All these choices, i dont know what to pick. I want to do it all. I just love women so much lol

>>29280005
nobody gives a shit how you lost your virginity bro

>>29280059
would pay in a heartbeat

>>29268744
I've seen it myself. Rare, but it does happen.

>>29271059
She cleaned up and changed her life. I remember an anon finding her in a facebook post or something. Must be 10 years ago or more.
>>29273689
You like women who are nice, despite not being the easiest to look at. That's normal.

Guys I need some advice, started mongering like a few months ago...how do you self control? I had like a small saving account for Christmas to buy shit for myself and stuff, now i realized I almost drain that account. Girls here are kinda cheap from 80 to 100 hrs, big booty latinas and I think I got adicted maybe because I cum quick and feel like i enjoyed a little and come back thinking next time I'll be more satisfied.

>>29280193
The older latinas are where its at in my area. Find one around the mid 30s and up and they'll let you do whatever. Like you said, the younger ones are cool too. It's just a crapshoot when it comes to the service part of things

>>29280320
Budget out all your expenses. Figure how much money you have for fun, I'd cut it in half or less and that's your mongering money.
I also would set a monthly limit on visits. Prob shouldn't go more than once a week, but at the prices you're saying I understand the struggle

>>29280339
In my area its white girls, if you get a white girl in her late 30s youre basically golden. And if you bring a bottle of wine(for some reason d'Asti is a very popular one with them) you can fuck them in any hole raw. Just get them comfortable and a little drunk and they just lose all composure.

As for latinas in my area they tend to be ass. I saw one and she was an absolute clean freak which i guess is nice but when the condom came off she freaked out and started panicking in the bathroom. I asked her to stop the clock and ill let her compose herself but she wouldnt do that so since i was still paying for her to basically have a panic attack i said fuck it, grabbed another condom from the drawer, bent her over the counter, showed her i had a condom on now and fucked her even though she said stop at first. So she had to watch me roughly fuck her in the mirror, enjoying her body. And i was telling her this too, i could feel her getting wetter, she loved this, etc. I came rather fast especially since i could see her face streaming with tears still and her fat juicy ass slapping against my stomach which each thrust. After i came i cleaned up, then helped her clean up, i cuddled with her a bit and she calmed down, actually i think she had calmed down and relaxed shortly after i started fucking her again. But then later she walked off and as i was leaving, there was this BIG ASS dude on the other side of the door. I grab the handle of my gun ready to pull it and then it turns out we just went over time and he had shown up to see her too. Me and him were both confused as fuck and just as surprised to see each other. Scared the shit out of me lol

This is a video of a cum tribute i did of her later

>>29276263
Nah, he makes legit points. He's resentful and needs to make peace with the world, but he's ultimately correct. And you have to remember that in the past, women needed men's support directly. Today that support comes from men indirectly via taxes, and also from women's jobs, many of which are makework daycare email-sending nonsense. This means they can focus entirely on looks, rather than on other traits, until they get desperate and start looking for the increasingly uncommon "good guy" to "settle for" who is usually the guy she should have taken 10-15 years prior.

Having said all that, in any case it's a fool's errand to care about what women want. Even if you somehow are Chad, guess what? You get women competing with each other to be your burden. Somehow we forgot that women are, especially in an economic sense, a burden for us when we're in a relationship with them, especially a marriage. That's why we used to have dowries, to ease that burden. Marriage and family are burdens to us, and we really do not HAVE to do that shit if we don't want to. We never did. You have no idea how glad I am that I can enjoy a woman on a regular basis without her being a burden. I can truly enjoy their company now that I can "rent" them (it sounds crass but idk how else to say it) and experience their sex and their lightheartedness for an afternoon, and then part ways until next time. If I were a craftsman 400 years ago I'd have to let a woman hitch her wagon to mine if I wanted to fuck.

>>29280372
I got side tracked with that story. So the reason it was ass was because she was clock watching hard, wouldnt let me kiss her anywhere, had a very nice looking pussy but wouldnt even let me finger her, just in general bare minimum touching. Thinking back im surprised she got wet as fast as she did without lube or anything. The rest of them require an absurd amount of info from you to the point where i wonder if they are committing identity theft too along with prostitution. Younger girls are also like that and in general suck to deal with and are very rare. I think this is because they go to onlyfans and stuff instead. I hope with more states banning it we might see more escorts in that age group instead of staying inside letting simps pays them thousands. The day the zoomers have to deal with actual economic hardships is going to be interesting. We havent had a recession since 2008. Most of them were very young kids at the time. They are either going to have to work irl or learn some other skill that pays well. Dildoing yourself online can only last so long

>>29276458
This is Just World Syndrome, and women themselves admit 24/7 now that they fuck dirtbag loser faggots on the reg. Women themselves have proven every bitter incel claim to be at least largely accurate, and often fully accurate. But the Women are Wonderful effect (look it up) is a hell of a drug.

The difference between Chad and the incel is that one fucks. As far as what they observe vis a vis women, their assessments overlap to a great extent.

>>29280380
never met a whore that was lighthearted

>>29280372
That's a beauty right there. I've noticed a little gift goes a long way. This white milf I saw suddenly had an open menu for me just because I remembered she likes those Rocher chocolates and got her some.

>>29280380
And usually that "good guy" isnt good enough for them and like 70% of married women, end up divorcing his ass and taking his money(if he has any). Truth is for me and a lot of dudes like me there really isnt an out. Unless i start making over six figures i wont have enough money to even BE used. The post-wall causality is now a luxury experience that most men wont have. If you are alone in your 20s, you will be alone in your 30s and 40s unless you become a totally different person in every way and good luck with that, personality is cemented at like 25. It can be done but its very hard. Ive failed to do it for years now.

Only reason why i care about what a woman thinks is because escorts where i live are insanely fucking otherworldly expensive and far uglier than a normal girl. I have fantasies about taking a normal girl on dates and having sex and being intimate and going on trips with her and having a family and etc etc. But i cant have that, for a long list of reasons, and i cant do anything to change that. I am forced to just accept the cards i was given and be glad that at least i can am privileged enough to afford to have human contact 2 times a year even though prices continue to scream through the fucking roof and i legit hope every single woman that did that goes out of business and is forced to either lower her prices to at least 2020 levels or retire entirely. 400% increase is insane for 4/10 pussy.

>>29280441
I should clarify I'm a sugarbaby guy, though the pros are receptive to a little charisma and TLC too.

>>29280418
You can tell how true an accusation is by how aggressively they try to fight against it. Because i think they instinctively know whats going to happen if men start realizing how shitty they are being treated. They dont want to go back to having kids with dudes they consider subhuman(read: regular guys), they dont want to cook, they dont want to clean. They want to work 45 hours at a jew daycare then fuck hot strangers.

The person you are responding to though, is a man pretending to be a woman. That guy doesnt have a wife, he never has, and is trying to shame me by pretending he does. He is also a fucking loser.

>The difference between Chad and the incel is that one fucks. As far as what they observe vis a vis women, their assessments overlap to a great extent.

I actually get along fairly well with chads for this reason i think. We both know.

>>29280446
the first time i ever creampied a woman was a tall, like 6'2 blonde danish escort who i brought wine for. When we did it doggy i slipped the condom up and i know she could feel my bare cock inside her but she just let me keep doing it, when i came i felt her whole body grip me and milk my cock, i could feel the end of her pussy and each shiver and spurt i did i knew i was shooting my load directly on her cervix. The risk of pregnancy turned me on a lot and her height and everything made it even hotter. I have a huge thing for tall blonde women. This was also in a three way with a pregnant woman too. So i just imagined i was cumming inside and breeding another woman in front of one i had already bred. When i pulled out my cum was leaking out of her pussy and she smiled and leaned back and laughed. Then her pregnant friend cleaned my cock with her mouth. Later in the shower the pregnant girl peed on my cock and then i fucked her bare too and finished on her belly. It was one of the hottest experiences of my life.

>>29278731
Im going to tokyo Kyoto and osaka.. where was this place at in Osaka? If it still exists.

Also how do i check if a place does FS? I read that not all the "legal" places dont do it.

>>29280447
I get it. My area's hookers mostly look like potatoes on legs and command 300-400/hr. Sugarbabies have gone up too, but not as much and they look way better and will usually be more open.

>And usually that "good guy" isnt good enough for them and like 70% of married women, end up divorcing his ass and taking his money(if he has any). Truth is for me and a lot of dudes like me there really isnt an out. Unless i start making over six figures i wont have enough money to even BE used
This is why I'm grateful for what I have, and why I say "incels" need to look on the bright side: even the guys who win this tournament can get fucked. Imagine making it through hundreds of obstacles and a battle royale, and after your victory ceremony you randomly get executed anyway. That's reality for tons of men.

This guy, Private Eye Russ, has made the point that even A-list celebs and billionaires get cucked. Idris Elba was a victim of paternity fraud. Robert Pattinson got cucked by Kristen Stewart. Many other examples. These guys have looks, charisma, talent, money, the total package.

Women are largely contentless, have piss poor judgement, and little capacity to reflect and grow. They have been given the safest and most abundant society in history and it still isn't enough. We are rediscovering what earlier civilizations took for granted, that women are a resource to be managed, and not much more.

>>29280471
The breeding risk is the biggest reason I go raw and cum inside, slightly more important than the fact that it just plain feels better. I tell them to say they're ovulating, to tell me to give them my seed. They love it too. They get wetter, fuck harder, all that. I try to keep tabs on all the girls I do it with, just to see if I actually knock them up. I don't want to leave my kids fatherless if I can help it.

>>29280525
there was one girl who got pregnant shortly after i creampied them and i sometimes wonder if it was my kid. No way to tell other than it was a few months after i had seen them they were advertising that they were pregnant now.

As for the dirty talk and the feeling 100% yes. Women love it, and they tend to be in a good mood after being cummed into which is why i think it has to be a evolutionary thing. A drug to them. Plus its always nice to feel her heart beat, her breathing, her arousal, everything, while you are inside her. Makes things 10x more intimate.

>>29280494
Agree with what you said. It just sucks for me because i basically have no power to change or control anything especially with a group of people who are the most drugged out and mentally ill generation of women in human history. They are always on some sort of substance, ssris, birth control, illegal drugs, whatever. I have probably never met a sober woman and its probably why passed the age of like 15 i feel like women just got worse and worse. They stopped acting normal and started acting like total mentally ill cunts.

I hope in the future i learn to live totally without them. Escorts are losing their appeal but the reason why is because i want to settle down if that makes sense(even though i was totally ready to settle down 10+ years ago) but nowadays it just seems like a dumb idea plus unrealistic given my situation. I should be happy with what i got.

>>29280054
nta, why?

>>29273433
Just get better photos

>>29274043
I've never understood that. Why would a girl work on listcrawler if she could simply get paid more on Tryst? It's not as if Tryst limits who can be there, right?

>>29273446
Why are you gae?

>>29279879
yeah i suppose, I just dont want her to see lol so i'll try and cover it