Thread 29339543

Sugar daddy tips.

A huge percentage of girls you know who aren't professional whores will fuck for money and gifts as long as they can pretend like that's not what they are doing.

Dating sites, Instagram and waitresses/bar girls are places to start.

Be direct and offer them out to a nice place to eat and say you're willing to gift them for the trouble. You can even jokingly ask if they are looking for a sugar daddy.

For waitresses and similar if they seem chill then just slip them a note with your number asking for their Cashapp.

If you want to help your chance send them a small gift in advance so they know you aren't a bullshitter. Then once you're chatting see if you can get some nudes so you know they are down.

Cost? Assuming you're in an average cost of living U.S. city $300-$700 is realistic assuming you don't look like a troll and you have decent social skills. $300 will get you cute college chicks. $700 is enough for Instagram level baddies/top tier college talent as long as they aren't already famous.

Why this route? If you're cool you get some real fucking. GIrls staying over at your place and chilling, going multiple rounds, and just way better sex on average. You're not on some timer in some seedy motel like if you're trying to fuck a professional whore. These girls also aren't likely piping down with 20 other guys a week.

More OC.

you speak the truth. Though now days its closer to 500-900 at least in CA. Though some more cute/average girls, even skinny ones are like 300.

I look for kinky/slutty ones and introduce them to threesomes and gangbangs. OC

You've lost some weigt since last time anon. Keep it up!

>>29339821
Thanks lol

>>29339543 (OP)
Man, even if I valued fucking for its own sake and had money to spare, I could never do that. I'd be too worried about them putting drugs in my food while I'm not looking, or casing my place for a burglary, or whatever else a total rando can do to potentially fuck up my home and/or my life.

>>29339543 (OP)
>>29339569
>>29339577
>>29339679
i aspire to fuck as much good pussy as you do, sd anon. how is your success rate rate when you approach the women you have in your vids? btw keep posting more these women are hot

>>29339543 (OP)
Why would I use my money to feed a whore? Cuck.

>>29340388
You buy your mother dinner already

>>29340312
Realistically maybe 1 in 10. There are some times when I know it's a long shot but it can't hurt to try, others are more of a sure thing. But it's also common to get delayed responses. I might hit up a girl and not hear anything for months then all of a sudden she's wanting to get up.

>>29339543 (OP)
>$300 will get you cute college chicks.
is that all you need per month for a college girl?

>>29339543 (OP)
thoughts on getting a sugar baby and having her be my personal assistant, wing-women and fuck toy? As in she does small tasks sometimes but mostly her job would be to seduce college girls for me, and if she fails to them we just fuck. I'm not interested in prostitutes or sugar babies and would want regular women who don't fuck for money. I'm trying to build a wee harem

>>29340514
300 isn't going to get you unlimited sex with one who knows the sugar baby game. It's possible you just end up getting a regular fuck buddy that you treat every now and then. I've had that happen but don't expect it.

>>29340552
how do you get one brand new to the sugar baby game

>>29340503
>>29340552
1 in 10 seems rough, but i imagine you shoot your shot a lot, judging by how many girls you have posted. 300 does seem like it only gets you sex occasionally, especially if its a one time payment you give them. whats the most memorable pussies you smashed so far?

>>29340594
>1 in 10 seems rough
It's not hard to spam messages or just drop your number every time you seem a cool waitress when you're out and about. You just do it slowly over time and before you know it you've got a dozen girls on your roster.

>>29340619
and whats the current roster # you got going on? i always seem to either miss or am late to these threads whenever you post. do you have more of the girl getting dressed?

>>29340697
Sure. More of her.

>>29340713
>>29340716
wonderful body, how did you meet her? >>29340723
holy shit that accent, more of her

Could you repost the full videos or collection of this one? She's so cute.

>>29339543 (OP)
>Cost
retard here, is that per encounter or?

>>29340594
1/10 is actually not bad. Way better than dating apps or doing.

>>29341184
*or doing pickup artist stuff and going clubbing. That shit is another full time job.

>>29339543 (OP)
You're a fucking legend, mate. Just want you to know that.

hes gone?

>>29340723
>>29340716
>>29339543 (OP)
>>29339679
Poor guy doesnt know how to fuck

>>29340388
That's literally required in 99% of the contexts of a man seeking to have sex with a woman.

>>29339543 (OP)
What state are you doing most of your hunting in if you don't mind answering? I had a lot of luck in texas around 2015 photographing and fucking women for around $300 a pop

>>29339543 (OP)
Loving this. Seems like from other messages you've posted before but this is first time seeing.

Love the long shot odds, I have had some surprising success in the past trying my luck on someone way out of my league but have also been shit down plenty of times too. Never actually tried the Sugar Daddy game and am interested to still have the option of release while taking a break from the dating bullshit.

Can I ask how old you are just out of curiosity?

>>29339543 (OP)
>Instagram
Public or private profile, what are the odds of getting banned, and what kind of pictures do you have?

Bump

>>29340594
1/10 is amazing for any sales/closing process anon. Literally top tier.
>>29339543 (OP)
Thanks for the thread anon.
Last time I tried instagram I was banned for sending 11 DM on the first day so I’ll have to go slower.
Has anyone ever tried running this game on their Facebook?

>>29341172
I’m wondering the same

>>29339543 (OP)
whole vids or sauce to this monger?

>>29342157
I got banned after 11 cold DM on a new account. I think you have to warm the accounts up.

>>29339543 (OP)
What do you for work to be able to afford to do that?

>Be direct and offer them out to a nice place to eat and say you're willing to gift them for the trouble.
Can you just be more direct and ask to come over and fuck?

>>29340025
Agreed. This is very irresponsible and absolute coomer brain rot.

>>29343351
I plan on just going to their apartment/house. I figure that’s less likely to be a set up. Also whites/asians should be safer too.

>>29343362
Fair

>>29341418
Bro no one wants to see the sensual slow hip grind love making lol.

>>29343362
>I plan on just going to their apartment/house. I figure that’s less likely to be a set up. Also whites/asians should be safer too.

You have that completely backwards. People like to control the environment. It's much more dangerous to go to someone else's house versus your own. Cops don't do outcalls for that very reason.

And remember this isn't about picking up actual professional working girls. These are "normal" girls. So yeah if you pick up some hood rat street walker and bring her back to your place that's something to be worried about. But if you're bringing home a waitress that you would have brought home anyway if you met her out at a club are you really worried that she's going to rob you lol?

>>29340388
LITERALLY WHY WE INVENTED MONEY, RETARD

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PAPERS ARE FOR? THEY'RE PUSSY COUPONS. CUZ OTHERWISE WE'D BE WALKING AROUND TRADING HUTS FULL OF POTATOES.

Fuck do you need the money for anyway? What are you, gay? Pure NGMI-ery, plain and simple. Grow up.

>>29341581
Yes Texas is the secret GOAT state for fucking. People think of places like LA or Miami or whatever but they've got it all wrong. Texas metro areas believe it or not are some of the most diverse in the U.S. with an obvious huge Latina population. The state is also much more working class and affordable. Yeah you've still got guys driving around in rented Lambos but it's nothing like those other places.

You can avoid most problems if you can vet. I usually avoid overly tattooed girls in my experience they are more likely to have issues or be under the radar pros that see a lot of guys.

>>29343966
>But if you're bringing home a waitress that you would have brought home anyway if you met her out at a club are you really worried that she's going to rob you lol?
Most criminals go to clubs and have day jobs, you know. Not everyone can be a full-time, 40hr/week burglar or serial killer. And most criminals also have girlfriends or side pieces or whatever. Even if she's not a burglar herself, when a girl sees something nice in your place, she can tell her guy about it later and get a little something in return after you get burglarized.

>>29344276
>Most criminals go to clubs and have day jobs, you know. Not everyone can be a full-time, 40hr/week burglar or serial killer. And most criminals also have girlfriends or side pieces or whatever. Even if she's not a burglar herself, when a girl sees something nice in your place, she can tell her guy about it later and get a little something in return after you get burglarized.


Who's more likely to be a criminal and/or have a pimp? The waitress at Hooters or the literal hooker who's advertising on Backpage?

Yeah everyone can be a criminal but one is more likely than the other.

And also cops don't do outcall sting operations because they want to control the environment for an arrest. Every time you go see a real hooker you're potentially walking into a sting.

>>29344486
>Every time you go see a real hooker you're potentially walking into a sting.
This is why I love and hate tryst. The girls tend to have more of an online footprint that stings and scams won't have. The hate comes from the prices

>>29344486
It’s crazy to me prostitution is still illegal.

OC

>>29345033
Phat ass asian.

>>29341057
Sauce?

What a fucking great body

op what's your age and whats your body count? gotta be crazy.

>>29345109
In my 40's. Body count is 115 since I've been doing the sugar daddy thing. I'd say about 10-15 of those don't really count from being strippers or actual whores but the vast majority of them are "normal" girls doing the sugar daddy thing.

>>29345043
Any place where you have more of this? I swear I only ever see it here

>>29345190
Have you ever noticed if the girls are more or less enthusiastic based on their age group? Is that something you can kind of control based on how much you're giving?

>>29345190
Is it possible for someone younger to pull this off? What age did you start?
I'm far from being in my 40s but got money to spare. Would rather just pay "normal" hot girls for sex and set up a deal with them then try and get a gf anymore or an actual hooker. What you have going sounds good

>>29345190
You have any stuff with a blonde girl?

>>29339543 (OP)

what's the split with how you found these girls? like % from dating sites vs. IG vs. bars?

And do you DM them from a regular IG account? Like..are your pics on it and stuff? Or is it a lowkey one.

>>29345190
115 SINCE? How long you been doing it? What is your body count including before doing the sugar daddy thing?

>>29345259
Blonde? Sure.

>>29345334
Blonde 2

Been doing it for about 10 years. Definitely worth it. 300-500 is usually what I offer

>>29345275
About 5 years so yeah 115 in that time frame. Body count was about 12-15 before that.

Where the fuck do you even find girls. I'm tired of getting no pussy.

>>29345340
Any pov blowjobs? I wanna see how the whores suck

>>29345340
More holy shit

>>29340503
Bro those are abysmal odds. Have you tried just being nice/ making them laugh a little. How tf do you afford this strategy?

>>29345234
>Is it possible for someone younger to pull this off? What age did you start?

Honestly the younger the better to a point. Being older can give you advantages as we just don't give a fuck as much and are usually better socially and have more life experience to impart but girls don't want some old as fuck dude either. I'd say 35-45 is probably the goldilocks zone of being a sugar daddy. The older and uglier you are the more it's going to cost you.

>>29345384
Blonde 2

>>29345407
>Bro those are abysmal odds.

Larping virgin detected if you think 1/10 odds are bad for scoring fine as hell women lol.

>>29345414
Blonde 3

>>29345362
>>/hc/2556012
That's one place to start. The pdf links have expired, but they're always available in the tg group

>>29345435
>>>/hc/2556012
Forgot how to reply to other boards

Is usasexguide down for good? Been getting a 502 error for the last few days

>>29345435
>/hc/2556012
What's the site?

>>29345422
Nah ur just a hater big dog

>>29345445
can anyone post the PDF here? can't seem to get telegram to work. Or email it to me: drwaterhouse@tutamail

>>29345423
Made a longer WEBM but obviously it makes the quality shit.

>>29345490
Any more petite white girls?

>>29341057

have you guys heard of heartattack at netflix tv show sets

>>29345490

Are these girls more willing to act like whores in bed because you're paying them, or because they're into it?

>>29340388
Incel

>>29345486
>The following Tuta email addresses do not exist. Please correct or remove the invalid email addresses: drwaterhouse@tutamail (dot) com

>>29345607
my bad sorry it's drwaterhouse42. appreciate it

>>29345033
>>29345043
this one has given me a raging boner. more of this phat ass asian? how old is she

How does a poor depressed man, who got fucked over by a credit card and only has 3k to his name at 29, manage money smart enough to indulge in dark fetishes like going to an asian massage parlor without feeling wrecked by conscience for dropping $180, especially when picking up extra shifts just to make it happen?
For some reason, my auto payment did not go full, only paid the minimum which racked up interest. Anyways, I really want to go back.

>>29339543 (OP)
inspired by Sugar Daddy Anon earlier this year I started sending girls in their 20s on Hinge a simple message

>SD <> SB?

1 in 2 would respond asking what that means and I'd say I'm asking if they're interested in sugar baby sugar daddy arrangement.

1 in 5 of those would say yes and I'd get off the app and start messaging.

About 1 in 15 overall would outright just say yes. I was really surprised about how many girls were down. I'm in my 40s and fat, and they were okay with it.

I never got further than exchanging some pics for small gifts, usually I'd ask them to give me an amazon wish list since I'm in Canada and Venmo/cashapp isn't a thing here. Eventually matched with a black girl and she was pressuring really hard to meet up at a price I wasn't comfortable with and started acting like we were dating even though I had never met her. That experience turned me off of the whole thing and I've stopped messaging anyone.

Still, had a fun time, motivated me to get into better shape. Thanks SD Anon. You're a cool dude.

>>29345408
Ahh I see, thanks for the advice. How do you go about asking a waitress/ some hot girl IRL for an arrangement? Also have you been banned from any establishments by asking hot employees if they're interested in a SD?

Hey there! I'm a 21-year-old girl from the US, a bit on the curvy side, and totally love taking the lead during those steamy chats. I get such a thrill from pushing boundaries and seeing just how far I can take a guy while we're having fun together. I’m always in the mood (definitely got those nympho vibes!), but I struggle with some anxiety, which makes meeting people in person a bit tough. That’s why I’m all about those flirty convos; they’re just so much easier for me! If you’re interested in some wild chats, add me on this app: E m mi-epq-oz (just remember to remove the spaces and dash!). Can’t wait to get into some fun together!

>>29345873
wait so you never actually hooked up with them?

Do you ever get "set up"? Or anything? Or have the women given your number out to people? I'd be afraid if I gave my number out that they would spread it around and shit

Also, do you think there would be good odds if I slip a note that says something like "I'll give you [cash amount] for head" with my number? I don't really wanna fuck strangers but I'd get a dick suckin also how much would be a good price to offer for head? 1-200?

What do you do for work again?

>>29345810
dont do it bro. Save up 10k atleast before you think about saving up for hookers. Itll take you a year if you live lean.
some of these girls make you feel great but its just a business transaction. It wont fix the hole in your heart.

Saving up 10k will make you feel safe about your future. Even put most of it in savings that grow over time.

After that, you can spend some of your money on fucking hookers or sugar babies. I fucked a lot and saves nothing. Ruined my life when i almost lost my job and had no money. Stressed out constantly.

Only fixed my life in the past 2 years and am 38 now. Now im better with money abd can justify whores once a month or two.

>>29342790
>>29339543 (OP)
do you have to DM them or can I get my current sugar baby to DM them and reel them in?

>>29346087
>>29345713
37

>Be me father of 2 young kids.
>Wife gone for work
>Work called for an emergency troublecall
>supposed to have day off
>having hard time working from home due to kids and this worktask requiring my full attention.
>suddently get message from my regular favorite Escort girl that she is in Town.
>get genius idea to call her over and pay just the 2 hours I estimate I need.
>order her cab, she arrives within 20 minutes
>she had no idea about the kids being home lol
>she arrived and I explain her at the door about my situation and, and I'll be here in home office and she can just call it if she needs anything, and ofc no change in the payment. (500 euro that I normally pay for 2 hours with her).
>she didn't mind at all and do love taking care of her nephew and niese whenever she visits her sister
>I go back to my work and finally get to focus 100%
>finish faster than expected, within am hour
>go upstairs to check on her and my kids.
>youngest sleeping, oldest is watching TV
>Tell her she's free to go if she wants she will still get paid for 2 hours
>She mentioned is not to late if I want anything extra
>Fuck why not
>go downstairs and get some good banging and finish off with a bj.
>we hang for a bit until the can arrives and thank her for her services.
>might hire her for more regular babysitting if it means I get the extra service in the end lol.

>>29345509
wdym

>>29345091
It's the OP guy and a whore he bought. He has more and I'm asking him to share but he either missed the message or is ignoring.

>>29345190
Bro can you post the rest of this bitch?
>>29341057
>>29341059
>>29341060

>>29345190
You pay extra to film/film anyway?

>>29346439
Does your wife know?

>>29345810
easy, buy bitcoin a decade ago

Few questions:

a)Do they know they are being filmed? If yes, do they charge extra?

b) - Do most girls stay true to the initial arrangement? Ever had any stop asking for money for the most part but just kept banging?

c) what is your facial attractiveness from a scale of 1-10

Also, what do follow up sessions look like? I'm sure it's a mix of you inviting them and them hitting you up. Payment wise, is it like a cash app after you fucked her? Or cash?

>>29341057
>>29341059
>>29341060

hot af, sheesh. Where'd you meet this one? Bar, Instagram, Seeking?

>>29346439
this looks like a win-win scenario for all parties

>>29340535
Bro is looking for a Ghislaine Maxwell

>>29345921
correct. over a 3 month period about 15 different girls agreed to enter an arrangement. most of them would flake and stop messaging after 1-2 weeks. 3 of them communicated long term.
>1 asked for a large gift (300+$) and I said I'd want some quality time together for that and she stopped messaging
>1 One was sending me nudes and talking about she couldn't wait to meet and then stopped abruptly. I imagine she got a boyfriend.
>1 the aforementioned black lady who put me off of the whole thing.

The terms I would outline were
>I'm looking for a pretty girl to motivate and inspire me
>Treat me like a king and I'll treat you like a princess
>Smaller gifts (30-50$) would warrant smaller thank yous and every now and then a larger gift (300+$) would warrant some quality time together.

And about 15 girls were down with that and they'd check in on me, ask me how my day was, pump my gas (EX:"Oh you went to the gym again? you're amazing!") and then ask me to buy them something off their wishlist and send me pics/vids. Like I said they would all stop after 1-2 weeks.

For 30$ a week it felt pretty good to have a pretty girl send me pics and tell me I'm great. Since I could afford 300$ a week if any of us ever got to the fucking phase

>>29347360
AI e-whores are going bankrupt so many of these sluts

Jesus how retarded would you have to be to pay for women/sex

>>29347591
My ideal woman is a whore. Relationships are for flags.

>>29346670
>>29346439
I have a hard time believing this. The wife is going to find out about the "babysitter" from the kids, and the wife will want to know where he got her from and how he knows her.

>>29339709
You're having a threesome? How do you pull that off? Also isn't that kinda gay

>>29340025
Why would they do that lol. Also you can just meet in a hotel or something if you're worried

What's the cheapest place to buy sildenafil online? It seems frustrating with the prescription because you can't just buy in bulk to get the best price

>>29339543 (OP)
>sugar daddy
you're a trick. LOL

>>29346670
Yes she knows, initially I called my wife asking if she was able to leave early from work as my own work needed me for an emergency.
She was unable to, and I told her I'll try to find someone who can babysit, could be anyone since I will be working from home.

I had my first round asking near relatives, but none of them could / replied.
I did post on a local FB group to see if I could get anyone from there, and that's when I got the message from my regular escort.
And I pretty much just took this as a sign and went with it.

Later when she came home and asked who I managed to find to look after the kids, I just told her I found a girl on FB who said she could.

And left it at that.

>>29347622
>i dont need anyone but me ahh unc

>>29348044
Thanks for clarifying. Now it makes sense.

>>29347591
Nothing wrong with paying for entertainment. Way harder to pirate sex and not worth compared to movies and games.

>>29346089
I think I told you before. For your scheme you are going to have to run it like you’re a sales manager with an autistic excel sheet and KPIs, funnels. Everyone doesn’t have to but the fact you’re on 4chan means that’s how YOU need to do that. You’re more at the just execute phase though.

>>29347591
I did it for the first time last year. The sugar thing, that is. I just wanted to see how the other half live. I have no trouble getting pussy, but it was sort of a bucket list thing. The lesson I learned was that pussy is pussy and we all pay for it. Sometimes more explicitly than others. I did fuck my first black girl up the ass, though. So if I wasn't willing to pay for dinner and drinks and send a little Cashapp her way I'd still never have experienced that.

Interesting thread. Bump.

>>29347984
Yeah, I am into that and talking vanilla girls into group sex and gangbangs. You meet a lot of different types of women. Honestly gives you a lot of confidence because the mystique of women kind of goes away the more women you engage in sex with.

Boys where do I find girls in Canada? Alberta specifically. I know there's a bunch here but idk where to look for them.

>>29339543 (OP)
When you say dating site do you also mean the apps like bumble/tinder/etc?
Also, I'm kind of an autist. Can I get an example exchange from a dating site? Like what exactly are you saying?
I mean I'm on the apps right now and have a bunch of potential matches but if I start firing off "$300 to fuck" messages I think I'll get reported pretty quick.

>>29350021
Have you tried sugar sites? Seeking, or Sugar Life Now or the other one I forgot.

So a new massage place opened in my town. Outside looked promising but when i looked it up they have some snake oil water head massage aparatus and went into some BS about how their head massage was "Healing", curing migraines and what ever ails you so I wrote it off. Ton of legit google reviews too. But in searching to see if i roll the dice at my usual place (My usual girl is gone) or try a new place I kept running into add for the place in my town at rub sites and even skipthegames. They dont advertise any illicit activities but still advertise the water head massage but still kinda strange they would put ads up on those illicit sites. My city isnt that big so and its right on a major road so i would never give it shot, mu luck someone i know or someone from work would see me walking in or out, but I do have to say im curious due to the places they chose to advertise on.

>>29345521
>because they're into it
faggot, women act all the fuckin time.

>>29350284
Also a little hesitant as if it is legit I would likely go broke. All the good places are a hour drive which keeps me from going all the time. Having someplace a few minutes away would be very bad for my wallet. So yeah not going to risk it.

>>29345435
The pdf seems very US centric. Can't find shit for Canada. Leo seems kinda legit but the girls are either too hot or busted as fuck. I'd like some reviews or something lol so I know I'm not gonna get scammed

>>29350126
Not OP but the idea seems to be you're masking that it's essentially escorting. It's psuedo dating. THe way I see it is the gifts and taking them out is "closing the gap" for you, smoothing over your faults. So if you're butt ugly and obese it's going to cost a lot more. But if you're an in-shape, sociable guy with a cool life and can throw around a few hundreds bucks to her, then it's easy to have sex. The number 1 thing with a girl is making her feel safe and comfortable sexually. Once you got that going through the gifts then her attraction to you starts building. Mere exposure effect takes over and she literally begins to find you more and more attractive. Eventually she wants to fuck you. This is a form of a seduction in its own right. Be dominant. Command the relationship. Don't get attached (think abundance mentality: there's a new "her" available any time with minimal effort because you're greasing the wheels). But lead with sexuality. Don't be a simp. She'll know the score. That's why you try to get nudes early on. That's the first test to pass that says "she's going to sleep with you if you keep progressing this."

>>29350570
>Not OP but the idea seems to be you're masking that it's essentially escorting. It's psuedo dating. THe way I see it is the gifts and taking them out is "closing the gap" for you, smoothing over your faults. So if you're butt ugly and obese it's going to cost a lot more. But if you're an in-shape, sociable guy with a cool life and can throw around a few hundreds bucks to her, then it's easy to have sex. The number 1 thing with a girl is making her feel safe and comfortable sexually. Once you got that going through the gifts then her attraction to you starts building. Mere exposure effect takes over and she literally begins to find you more and more attractive. Eventually she wants to fuck you. This is a form of a seduction in its own right. Be dominant. Command the relationship. Don't get attached (think abundance mentality: there's a new "her" available any time with minimal effort because you're greasing the wheels). But lead with sexuality. Don't be a simp. She'll know the score. That's why you try to get nudes early on. That's the first test to pass that says "she's going to sleep with you if you keep progressing this."

You've nailed it.

That's why it's a gold mine for improving your odds if you're a decent looking guy with some social skills.

In the current dating world good looking chicks get an infinite amount of attention online and on dating apps the top few percent of dudes get all the attention and the rest of the dudes get nothing. I don't hate women for it either it's just natural with the current dynamic. This means if you're a 7/10 dude it takes a TON of work to land a hottie. Hell even 10/10 dudes looks wise get rejected like crazy on dating apps.

The gift simply separates you from the pack and gives you a chance to play ball. Now she actually gets a chance to see that you're a chill guy that's fun to go out with when you would have been a quick left swipe before.

>>29347984
>Why would they do that lol
Many potential reasons: Mental illness, profit, stupidity, or just for the evulz.

>>29350686
Continued.

If you message chicks online do NOT mess around with small talk. They get 100 dudes a day sending them lame as hell 'Hey beautiful" cheesy BS.

Here is an example of the FIRST message I send chicks online:

"Hi Jane Doe. Looking great in that yellow dress. How's nursing school? Just to cut through the BS I'm looking for a nice woman to take out to dinner or chill by the pool with. Ever eaten at cool restaurant XYZ? I'd be down to gift you $400 and I'm also up to send some gifts in advance so you know I'm not wasting your time. Let me know if you're interested and have a great Friday night regardless."

If they say they are interested I give them my real number and ask them to send selfie doing something specific so I know that they are real and I offer a gift in return for the trouble.

Then you're on your way. If you can get a nude before your meet then you're in there.

>>29341581
Do you still have the pics?

>>29350731
having them potentially ghost me after sending money is the main reason i personally wouldnt do this.
>>29350570
couldnt have said it better myself, show them a fun time while making them feel comfortable is the real life "cheat code". Took longer than I like to admit to figure this out, but my outlook on dating changed heavy after this.

>>29350535
It's US centric because I'm in the US and only have experience with escorts using tryst in one area of the US. Anyone is free to chime in and talk about their country or experience with different kinds of SWs. The floor is also open to SWs and any topics they'd like to cover.

As much as I'd like people to fund my travel/monger budget so I can vlog about my personal adventures of booking dates across multiple states and countries, I'd rather not paywall what amounts to "Go to this website, text the number, don't be an asshole."

>>29350731
when you say gift do you always mean a cash app / venmo? Or do you literally mean some kind of gift?

context; met one of them on SA. she my regular.
i told her i never had 3some, so she arranged it

>>29350890
how much a month for her. just estimate if u have to.

>>29350885
Cashapp or whatever.

SD anon you will go down in /gif/ history. Thank you for your contributions.

>>29350898
$1.5k. we meet at-least 4 times a month now. before it was like 10 times a month, but shes got a Bf now. so its hard to plan

>>29351020
Here are some milf milers for those of you into that.

>>29351115
what was the hottest slut you ever fucked and recorded?

>>29351115
how much was this one? trying to gauge if I can afford this shit lol.

>>29347165
except legal

what pdf?

>>29351165
>what was the hottest slut you ever fucked and recorded?

I've fucked numerous that were personal 10/10's for me so it's hard to choose. I haven't really posted any but I've fucked some really gorgeous Viet girls.

Mexican MILF

>>29351257
holy she is hot. shes fully into it, going mad on that cock. you are one lucky guy

would love to see the viet girls, please do post when u can.

>>29348044
>I did post on a local FB group to see if I could get anyone from there, and that's when I got the message from my regular escort.
she is looking to traffic your children. do not trust her

>>29351257
do you convince them to record or do u hide the camera?

most of the encounters i have they dont want be recorded, the ones that do prefer no face. rarely some accept with extra $.

>>29351257
Idk about hottest but this one looks to me like the most fun to fuck.

>>29351257
these girls look expensive. starting to think you're paying more than 300-700...

>>29351301
Oh yeah she was incredible. Moved away unfortunately.

I go to AMPs, I go soft after the nut, do they usually/can they go for a second HJ? I think Im getting along with my mamasan. Will I have to pay double?

>>29351301
>>29351338

fuck thats hot! you got more of her?

Wow, I never realized how much the prevalence of genital herpes varies by race: 35% of Blacks and only 4% of Asians

From the CDC: "Age-adjusted prevalence was highest among non-Hispanic black persons (34.6%) and lowest among non-Hispanic Asian persons (3.8%). There was no significant difference in prevalence between non-Hispanic white (8.1%) and Mexican-American (9.4%) persons."

And of course you can assume the prevalence among escorts is higher, so you're really taking a risk if you choose ebony.

>>29351372
Sure

>>29351406
More

One of the GOATs. Asian sorority chick. She had it all. Natural fat titties and ass which is crazy for an Asian, amazing head game and a vacuum pussy. I don't know how in the world a richer dude hadn't picked her up sooner. I spent about $1,200 a month and she was basically my GF for a year or so. Slept over and had her shit at my place and she wanted me to nut in her each and every time.

I honestly wouldn't have minded getting her pregnant. She came from a good background and was cool as hell.

>>29351072
Bro are you saying she's been cheating on her BF for money

>>29351115
i like this one, got any more?

>>29351531
>Bro are you saying she's been cheating on her BF for money

I'd say most of the women I had regular thing with got boyfriends at some point and would still hit me up every now and then.

>>29339543 (OP)
i have an ex gf in vietnam, whenever im in her city i meet her at a seedy motel and creampie her then send her home to her boyfriend. such is life.

>>29350570

Not op. Not american. Oc you don't offer 300.
They are not whores in the strict sense.so you will need some nuances. You say you.are in.the spectre. I guess.you are not so good talking to people. Forget this mess, this door is also closed for you.

>>29346087
NTA, how did you manage this
>Only fixed my life in the past 2 years and am 38 now. Now im better with money abd can justify whores once a month or two.

Best black princess lay

>>29351531
Picture you're not a hot stud, not a provider and some woman suggests to pay you occasionally to have sex. Would you agree if you had a girlfriend?
Women aren't so morally different from us, buddy

Mixed Asian goth.

>>29339543 (OP)
What's your job, I'm assuming some remote IT work so you can travel and enjoy the roster?

>>29352045
Remember the genital herpes statistics: 35% of Blacks vs only 4% of Asians

Once you catch it, you have it forever

Big tit blonde.

>>29347591
So how do you get it for free? Horny long term friends doesn't count, that's too rare.

is there a site that has more of his kinda thing? amateur fucking seems far more genuine be it for affection or transaction than professional stuff especially when you compare the two and see the difference between " i just want to get off" and " we want to feel good together"

Older stuff. Petite light skinned latina with great perky tits.

>having to pay for girls
You lot are lower than cucks lmao

>>29352852
Part 2

>>29352852
>>29352857
damn she's mint

>>29340025
bro im sorry but you guys just havent had enough life experiences.

the worlds not actually that dangerous, shit like this is happening everyday and the odds of it happening to you are like dying in a car crash.

dont go through life scared boys, keep your wits about you and you'll be fine

>>29350731
this shit seems so wild ngl, but I’ll try it
anything you look for in a dating profile or are you mass sending?

>>29350731
I can understand blank profiles being a big turn off. What kind of posts do you have? Do anons need to hire a dating profile photographer?

>>29352857


have any videos where you nut inside them?

>>29351531
Nta but I've had wives, fiancees, girlfriends, all of them just wanting some money for a new bag or clothes or something. They get the bliss of new dick, the thrill of cheating giving them more intense and passionate sex than they get at home, and some cash for their trouble. Of course most women are going to do this if given the option. One wife was saving up to go to Disneyland and had disney tats and stuff. Hubby was a militaryfag and wasn't making much money. She had a kid from a previous relationship that he was now raising as his own. He did all that just for her to come over and beg for my creampies with her legs in the air lmao.

>>29351403
Yeah, sadly blacks are off limits for me even when I'm seriously tempted. Never had an asian, so maybe I'll go for one when I get back into the scene.

I was supposed to have a fit latina milf come over and dump a couple of loads in her pussy while I (secretly) recorded so I could finally contribute some OC. Sadly she flaked twice in a row, and I have a 2 strike rule. Sorry.

>>29351531
yes. and funny thing is we fuck in her house. mostly during my lunch breaks

>>29351367
A 2nd round may or not be allowed during your time, but to the best of my knowledge, generally it's pay per nut. Maybe if the girl likes you she'll allow another one during the time limit.

>>29346087
36 here, I only recently hit 10k in the bank. Relied on credit when I was younger and didn't quite know what I was doing. It's not too late, bros.
>>29352035
Nta but I just buckled down and avoided fucking up and stopped buying anything I didn't need. Went without a car for years. I used cardboard boxes from the grocery store, like strong egg boxes, as furniture. I used 5 gallon buckets from the bakery of that grocery store as trash cans. Saved everything I could, picked up extra hours, did some odd jobs, and avoided fucking up. Played PS2 games when the PS3 was coming out. Yeah, you pribably have to go without cunt for a long time. Big deal. Now I've fucked dozens of girls from "cute enough I guess" to "I can't believe I'm actually fucking this girl and cumming in her pussy" level hot. I'm Joe Schmoe and I've gotten to fuck women that emperors and kings would have had as their main bitch.

>>29353716
>cardboard boxes
Off topic, but cardboard furniture gets pretty indepth and experts can make stuff that's indistinguishable from wood, very strong, and last years. The only thing you can't cheap out on is a bed. Your back will thank you

>>29353763
Yeah, they can press and treat it and it's very strong. I did cheap out and slept on a cot for a few months. Finally said fuck this shit and got a cheap, firm mattress. No boxspring or frame. Worked out great.

What do you do for work that you can afford an extra 1.5k spend a month while also juggling bills?

>>29339679
Got more of this girl?

Hey there! I'm a 21-year-old girl from the U.S. with a playful side and a love for flirty chats. I enjoy teasing and pushing boundaries – seeing guys squirm is totally my jam! I have a curvy figure and an adventurous spirit, but I can be shy about meeting in person, so I'm all about that digital fun. If you're looking for some exciting and steamy conversations, I'm your girl. Let’s vibe and see where it takes us! Hit me up at j-a-l r-o n-n (just remember to remove the spaces and dashes)! Can't wait to chat!

>>29351367
my regular lets me go twice when booking an hour. and they give a "happy start" so i have the massage time to recharge.
but i've also been to a place that teased an errection out me after the nut, then held it asking for an extension. it's going to depend on the shop for sure.

>>29339543 (OP)
How do I get an 18 year old sugar baby who hasn't done sugaring or any sex work before?

Any Eurofags got experience with real Escort EU site?
Heard like 90% of em are fake profiles.

Any red Flags to be aware of?

>>29354081
Oldfag Monger here. This is the official oldfag's guide to fucking a younger woman from a guy old enough to remember raiding scientology.

The only rule:
Just don't be an asshole and don't pressure them to fuck at all.

The process-
Step 0: Go to where younger women work and/or go.... Waitresses, retail, front desk... The power dynamic here is already shit and they get hit on like 500 times a day. Don't be ugly, don't be a creep. Be polite and even if you strike out say "Thank you for your time" and move on.

Step 1: Strike up a conversation using your fucking words. This is where most of you shitbags will fail because all of you are fucking basement dwelling npc's. If you can make her laugh you proceed to step 2.

Step 3: Say you think she's cute, give them your insta on a slip of paper and ask for their cashapp like OP said... If they are a waitress leave a huge tip on your order like 50% or 50 bucks- whatever is higher. Thank them for their time and move on. Forget about her because she will probably never contact you.

Step 4: Wait. You did this 50 times and you will hear back from 0-10 of them (usually closer to 0).

Step 5: Someone hit you up. Take them to a decent dinner. Ask them about their life and goals. Shut up and listen. No one gives a shit about you or your life. Your life is boring. Any questions she asks about you must immediately be answered in a way that transforms into a question about her.

Example question to you: "What do you do for work?"
Answer: "Oh, I'm just one of those typical engineers that sits and types for a living. Frankly I think your work is more valuable to society anyway - Nursing school is way more important than moving some numbers around. What led you to choose nursing school anyway?"

Step 6: Shoot your shot- "You look absolutely spectacular and I'd love to see more of you. I think we can help fulfill each other's needs- Would you like to go somewhere more private to see how I can help you achieve your goals?

>>29353032
any bitch at any point in space and time can decide on a whim to destroy or greatly complicate your life. here you are doing all the work for her by leading with your wallet so she can decide early on if she wants to get knocked up. whores are indifferent but pleasant enough and if you've travelled a bit then you'll have figured out going abroad is advantageous. whores have boundaries. i like boundaries. you must not have much to lose.

Hey there, I'm a 21-year-old girl in the US, curvy and playful, totally loving to take charge during those naughty chats. One of my favorite things is teasing guys until they can't handle it anymore! I'm super into pushing boundaries and seeing just how far I can take it while having a blast. I'm definitely a night owl with some wild fantasies, but dealing with a bit of social anxiety means I prefer to keep it all digital. That's why I'm all about those late-night chats; it's just way more my vibe! If you're down for some fun, hit me up! Just add me on the app that's got the yellow ghost, username E-mm-i-e-p q-o-z (make sure to remove the spaces and dashes)! Can't wait to connect and get spicy!

>>29353776
Sauce please Anon!

Here's another person who, when he got divorced, being a crypto millionaire, has been supporting young women for a long time. Luckily, even though I'm 50, I look 35 at most, and not working helps me stay in good shape.

I've dated girls so young that it bordered on illegality, and when they turn 23 or 24, like DiCaprio, there's always another 18-year-old willing to crawl for a Cartier earring.

I'm going to spend my old age taking advantage of every twenty-something I see along the way, and no, I'm not ashamed or feel bad about it. They just want the money, the status, and to take advantage of you until the very last moment. I plan to do exactly the same thing.

>>29340552
What's the number usually? Like you seem to have a lot of experience and the girls you're posting are very hot. So, if you're hooking up 1-2x a week with a girl, what do you think your total cost is gonna be on average?

And I'm curious how many of these girls you hooked up with multiple times. How long are you typically hooking up with each one? 115 in 5 years is a lot. Like 2 a month.

Also just curious: estimate on how much money you spend a month since you started this? I think a lot of us are interested in this lifestyle it's just a question of can we afford it. Even for me there's something alluring about a girl being paid to have sex with me. Like in a way it's hotter than regular sex. An additional kind of dominance to it I guess. Wonder if you feel the same.

>>29353952
if this isnt just larp posting vids with hookers its pretty sad the guy shamelessly admitted to spending mid 5 figures in half a decade and nearly the same amount of effort required to do it all for free

>>29354327
Holy shit. Normally I just browse the photos in these threads. But your post makes for informative reading. The kind of intelligent, down-to-earth post I enjoy reading.

>>29354665
he's so sparse on the details im beginning to think they're just hookers..

>>29354746

Thanks. I've been watching this board evolve and devolve for years. The nuggets are what keep me around.

>>29354632
>Also just curious: estimate on how much money you spend a month since you started this?

Depends on the month and who/how many are at bat. Anywhere from 1-5k to get laid 0-2 times a week and enough nudes on snap to fill a 8slot NAS device.

Low weeks that I partake in are like 300-800 for a single visit. Some weeks I skip because I'm busy or hurt myself like a dumbass. Last week I paid 300 + an uber. Tomorrow I'm in for 600 and dinner.

The 5k tier gets you a girl to come over and play freeuse fuckdoll for several days- but it takes some trust building to get up to this stage.

Of the 1-5k/mo about 200-500 of it is just sex toys. If they don't have a toy collection they'll think of you every time they take out their wand/satisfyer. "Make sure you charge and bring your toys" is my favorite way of making them think about how they're about to get fucked.

Remember: 18-23 year olds do NOT have their shit together and they are flaky little shits. Everything is an emergency and they are incapable of dealing with normal ass problems like "paying bills on time". If they weren't hot and I would NOT be doing this. You WILL LITERALLY give up this hobby from watching one of them self immolate despite getting cash from you.

You'll be back 2 months later lol

>>29339543 (OP)
>You can even jokingly ask if they are looking for a sugar daddy.
great thread (again)
in my experience the more direct you are, the better this goes. The beauty of "sugaring" is no one is playing games or conning the other. You can still be humans to each other, but no need for the drama.
"Babies" offer a better experience than 80% of the whores/escorts out there. If you want a "professional" i would recommend splurging the $1000/hr on a knockout and do multi hours. A once-in-a-lifetime experience with a bombshell in public or just in a suite is priceless. They will be more than just a good looking fuck dummy. The good ones are courtesans and know how to engage and make a unique experience for you. Most keep up with you after its all over.

You might spend $400/hr on an escort for an hour....you'll exhaust all your patience and sanity just trying to get them to respond, commit to an engagement and not have to beat them like a Hebrew slave to get what you want when they do show up.

That $400 could be spent on a 'baby' and get an entire weekend of fun and 'connection' (if you want it). My last baby was a 4'11" gymnast that would come over and cook breakfast and other times sneak into my house just to blow me while I was already in bed.

If you just need to fire off a nut, then stick to AMPs or massage girls.
** the very best is if you can find a Tantric Instructor - that will TEACH you Tantra meditation - its an experience that will completely change how you use your body in sex **

>>29344008
>Yes Texas is the secret GOAT state for fucking.
except Texas made solicitation a felony just a few years ago. That had thousands of mongers trying to delete their monger profiles on places like eccie for fear of getting charges

>>29345873
>meet up at a price
a different sugardaddyanon here
first of all
> you pay for SEX
this isn't dating.... I'm not fucking paying to meet up with some broad.

FWIW - i did every type of whore I could over the period of 3 years, then got into sugar babying because I preferred the connection type shit. I used seeking.com. Pay for 1 month membership then cancel. Within that 1 month I would have no less than 80 girls communicating with me over texts and were DTF. That 80 came from 200 that responded to me via seeking.com messaging (that i pushed to text within 2 msgs). Those 200 came from 300 cold intros that were copy and paste jobs. I had 2-3 of these intros because if you spam too much, seeking will suspend your account.

I vetted all the chicks out over texts and EVERY first meet was at my house and it always went the same. Show up, we have drinks, chat, then go to the bedroom for a massage and start fucking. Some would stay for a bath then leave with an envelope (some didn't ask for $).
What doesn't work is being a mild faggot. These girls NEED to be directed. They WANT a man to take charge and appears that he has his shit together. Its not going to work for you if you come off like a weak faggot or try to "date" them and pine for their approval

>>29353776
Damn, anymore of her?

>>29347360
>agreed to enter an arrangement.
you cant enter allowance territory unless they've proved they're worth it (fucking).
Very FEW of mine were trustworthy to get to that phase (only 3 out of the 50 something I had from seeking), which made them amateur escorts

>>29354327
>old-fag monger
>outlays 2500 in fishing expenses only to end up listening to vapid women before shooting his shot...
>fucking doubt

>>29354327
hey nerd
this is an oldfag>>>>>>
>>29354615

>>29354958
>You WILL LITERALLY give up this hobby from watching one of them self immolate despite getting cash from you.
lol...fucking hell. this is where I am at
> seen too much
> its all played out

>>29355088

correction- I laid out 1-5k in expenses lol
Not all of us are poor.

See >>29354958

>>29355120
regardless, you're being taken to the cleaners. not my business i suppose. however, you'll probably never figure out $20 pussy is actually better than $1500 pussy. you're just complacent and probably don't own a passport.

>>29354958
you don't seem to be ugly a guy. decent body. large dick. why don't you just date a girl? curious what led you to this whole thing. Yeah the girls are hot but I wouldn't be surprised you could score a hot 20-something with your wealth, social skills, and being an in-shape decent looking guy. What's your income/net worth? Gotta be high to drop 5k a month lol.

>>29355120
i mean seriously, what you've described sounds like a fucking job. like, don't you have anything better to do? might as well streamline the process and move to pattaya or something.

>>29355119
My condolences.

I had to take a few months off after watching one lose her apartment... then she gets her car rekt... I fixed it... gets it towed because she forgot to pay registration... Lost her job from having no car.

I gave her like 40k over the course of a year and she still couldn't float... I gave up.

Dear fucking god was she worth it though. I still miss her sometimes!

>>29355132
ngl being in your 30s and taking a college girl out and having her want to fuck you without paying for shit (maybe juts for dinner, but not psuedo whoring like this other stuff) is a good feeling.

>>29355120
you probably inherited, right? no self-respecting man would double some stupid whores income cause she starfished twice a month. get real. doesnt it bother you she knows you're a total sucker?
>maximum value is the name of the game
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mndJYrYOA84?t=98

>>29355154
my brother in christ, leave the usa and that feeling will no longer be novel. in fact, it is completely normal for young women to date 25-35 in large swaths of the world.

>>29355137
> why don't you just date a girl?

>>29355144
> move to pattaya or something.

>>29355132
> you're just complacent and probably don't own a passport.

All 3 answered with the same response- I have kids I actually love (very un-oldfaggy of me) and I am not moving to thailand before they are off to college and have their footing!

Time with them is better than money... But you bet your ass I'm going to sample every hole in pattaya, warsaw and kyiv (if it still exists) as soon as they get their first jobs!

>>29355144
>what you've described sounds like a fucking job
not that anon, but another old faggot (51).
a couple things about this
1. The chase - there is a BIG adrenaline rush in securing the catch. I got the same rush from buying high value guns from private sellers. With actual whores, this rush is the same because there is so much risk involved coupled with the anticipation of the score. Being honest, the sex was a small fraction of the satisfaction.
2. AGE - when i was in my 30s I thought 'paying for sex' was the dumbest thing ever. I could get laid and meet up with girls fairly regularly. When I got older, the convenience of having what I want when I wanted it HOW i wanted it ....money can't buy that pleasure. Also, when you're older hundreds of dollars ain't shit. I can throw around thousands and not blink
3. EXPERIENCE - When you've got a good handle on life, when you've dealt with all kinds of difficult crisises, managing whores is no big deal. Fishing for new booty is convoluted, but an easy project to manage when you know what your'e doing and what pitfalls to avoid.

>>29355137
>why don't you just date a girl?
not that anon, again....but you value 'dating' way too high. Dating a girl is soooo much drama work responsibility that they frankly aren't worth. The man is not getting anything out of babysitting a chick full time. Its much better having her live in her own little world and come to me sparingly as the savior.

>>29355177
oh, ok. couldn't be me running around like that. >mazel tov

>>29355148
>I fixed it...
this is precisely why I don't engage like that anymore.
> I have the means
> I have the 'heart' to help
> I have the experience to solve everything (type of work i do)
i know i can't be around this shit for others because its in my nature to REACT with a solution. That actually doesn't help girls or strangers

>>29355188
i enjoy the hunt as much as the next guy but i'm not going to spend 10-20 hours a week on top of paying out of pocket in service of dragnet pussy whackamole. as i've said, i've better things to do AND i'm fairly confident that in the end i'm getting superior quality while paying a tenth what you're dishing out.

>>29355148
>I gave her like 40k over the course of a year and she still couldn't float...
because enabling her breeds dependency. lemme think when was the last time i bailed a hooker out of a bind? oh, that would be never.

>>29355220
> i'm fairly confident that in the end i'm getting superior quality while paying a tenth what you're dishing out.

1-5k/mo idiot here. I've spent more time lurking this thread than my weekly time burn.

I'm wholly unconvinced... You are correct that most of it is trash but the gems you find are just so so so good.

The 40k girl I cut loose was a solid 9, petite, multi-orgasmic and in her manic phase (I know... don't say it) could literally go 30+ times before tapping out. There is nothing in this world that will make a man feel as god tier as making a girl cum 30 times with a "Thank you, daddy" punctuating each one while draining me the 2-3 times that I needed.

I'm probably going to go actual years before I find another like that...

>>29355177
>move to pattaya or something.
on second thought, stay in the usa. last thing we need is some clueless american who doesnt know the value of a dollar shitting up the scenes year after year. like bragging about paying $100 for a big mac is something to be proud of.

>>29355295
bro those bitches are a dime a dozen in the phils. but usa market seems a better fit for you.

I'm 36. 21 year girl old co-worker has been making sexual innuendos and being flirtatious and teasing for weeks now. Seems to be challenging me to make a move sometimes. Talking about how she knows where the cameras are and aren't. She's dating a manager there. I'm tempted, but I have other options (sugarbabies and one pro) with lower risk and no games. She's also a bit of a cunt.

I'd love to pump my troops into her, but these young ones are the most fuckass retarded you'll ever deal with, while also having all the power to nuke your life. You can give them all the knowledge and guidance they need, and they will find a way to fuck their shit up. They're like MacGyver but for fucking up instead of making improvised explosives

>>29355295
i realize i'm coming off as a hater and am i actually happy to hear you found what you're looking for but...it's guys like you that are killing the hobby, for no reason at all, and so i hope you stay in your containment zone paying off some whore mortgage for what can be had for less than $100 elsewhere.

>>29355295
maybe if both of you were in love.. but i doubt any of yall care much for that if you're into this stuff. but idk the sex ive had while being in love was unforgettable. sure on the daily it was pretty normal. but a couple times a month you'd just have those nights that were unforgettable for whatever reason (usually romantic, or you're riding the high of something else like you saw a great show earlier and you've both been horny af for days).

>>29355345
>Talking about how she knows where the cameras are and aren't. She's dating a manager there
oh, so they're working to sue to the company for a payout and she's pegged you for a sucker.

Is it bad that I just wanna hire a pretty girl to lay in her lap and talk about things?

>>29355369
totally normal and the reason why mongering outside the usa tends to be a superior gfe experience (less so these days).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQqWYiQmrY

>>29355365
Quite possibly. I'm always asking myself "what's the hustle here?" and there are numerous angles she could work.

>>29339543 (OP)
i do "sugar dating" too
really its just prostitution but calling it sugar makes these bitches not feel like they are whores lol
i usually give $200 to $400 and they spend a couple of hours with me
sometimes we go out but most times we just hang out at my house
some of them even cook for me while they are at my house lmao
much cheaper than an actual escort
women are so dumb

>>29354327
this isn't adding up. let me get this straight, you're bringing randos to your upmarket primary residence and you've neither had enough bad experiences with pregnancy scares (real or imagined) nor robberies as a result of hoes falling out of the rotation? at rate you're going and the money you're spending, these should be sem-annual events at the least. and should've occurred with enough frequency to give you pause or at the very least worthy of mention in this thread. so im calling bullshit.

>>29355220
>i've better things to do
you'll get no argument from me on that.
the only thing I'll say about the common arguments is
> money is not relative
$400 for you may not be $400 for me
the VALUE behind that cost depends wholly on the buyer. In the US, NONE of these whores are worth what they're asking. It doesn't change the fact that they're going to set their rates at $500 or more when they offer nothing close to that value. Same with sugar babies. Girls looking to be babied expect at a minimum $2k/mo for just showing up, not even sex. For a real laff check out the reddit subs about escorts and sugar babies. Serious delusion going on there.

Can you justify spending $25 on DoorDash for some egg rolls? Depends on how desperate you are to avoid driving and human contact, I suppose.
Same for dealing with whores (babies or otherwise) there is much more to be gained than just a hole to stick it. If all you want is to bust a nut, by all means just go for an AMP

IMO - what i found solace in during these hunts to justify the madness was drilling down to exactly what I was after and then directing the girl to give me exactly that. It may be a certain look / outfit, a way to talk to me, a nuanced way of working my cock,etc.... it was all about ME getting precisely what I wanted for a very specific psychological trigger just for me. It was self discovery more than it was entertaining a broad or making kid curry spill out of my peener

>>29355424
>much cheaper than an actual escort
>women are so dumb
neither of those statements is true. $200-400 is the average in most cities. so, they're getting exactly their worth. its probably the case they're part-time casuals (my preference).

>>29355336
>in the phils.
the problem with that is that their asians
if I could get into the bugpussy, I could save a ton of money. I just cannot fathom thinking one of these sea monkeys is "hot", let alone fucking one and being happy about it.
To each his own

>>29355355
>the sex ive had while being in love was unforgettable
well, "no kidding"
unfortunately, I've no doubt those days are loooooong behind me. To be "in love" requires a great deal of trust or blind naivete which is why these kind of experiences are mostly had in your teen or early 20s. Try having "in love" sex in your 40s, anon
men mature and get wiser as they age
women stay the same child all their life

>>29355502
sure, and she has, no doubt, provided that same service for either free or a price greatly reduced to yours. what i think is you get off on the idea you're getting better value because you're paying more. to my mind, you're just a rookie monger. i'm happy you're happy but please stay in your containment zone; please and thank you.

>>29355491
>you're bringing randos to your upmarket primary residence
again not that anon, but very similar approach.
sugar baby sites i've done the same method with over 47 girls outlined here >>29355066

>>29355511
>the problem with that is that their asians
true, true. but was just one example for the sake of argument.
> I just cannot fathom thinking one of these sea monkeys is "hot", let alone fucking one and being happy about it.
there's such an abundance of supply that nobody would fail to find something they'd like.

>>29355537
oh, ok. but i think the point stands generally when deluding oneself into thinking these girls are somehow more trustworthy than a run of the mill streetwalker.

>>29345043
man what is it with asians wanting to get leashed up

>>29355533
>you're just a rookie monger
very likely, anon
though if I do or don't (i'm done) it doesn't change the price of tea in China one bit. These whores aren't setting their rates because 1 guy paid them X. They're setting these rates by what the other girl's rates are. There is no rhyme or reason behind it.

I'm not Jewish, so trying to jew a broad down and get my rocks off of $100 discount doesn't do anything for me. Its hard enough to get regular whores to meet up without flaking out or passing out off an H bender.
This isnt a YOU or ME argument. This is an age old argument in monger communities where anyone paying over XX is a sucker because Joe Blow will only pay X.

I doubt the girls we pay $1000 to would even be on your radar at $300. This hobby is so fucking diverse and there are so many restaurants for all our appetites there is no standard to be had

I'll also admit that most of the time, what I was paying for wasn't even for sex. I visited over 120 something whores in a 2.5 year span before sugaring. The sex was memorable in maybe a handful of encounters. Much of what I wanted wasn't even real companionship,it was a Westworld-esque rendezvous of different types of girls and scenarios. Maybe it was a dinner date and back to the suite, other times it was wine and sushi and sucking my dick.....point being what I was REALLY after was probably just stroking my EGO masked by being a manic horndog

>>29355557
>these girls are somehow more trustworthy
fair enough - its not your bag.
Would you have a girl over to your hotel suite or do you ONLY do incalls?
When you play on home turf YOU control everything. At no point in any of my home turf encounters did things go south. I had one chick that I had to bounce once she got here, but there were no issues at all. Walking into an in-call provides none of these assurances

If its at MY place, I don't even have to be dress. I'm not going anywhere. If she doesn't show up...oh well

If I have to go to her place, I have to get dressed up, have to wait around for her to give me an address....wait for her to be ready....then I have to hurry up and go! once its over with

>>29355491
>you're bringing randos to your upmarket primary residence
Hotels. Your reading comprehension is shit. Bringing them to my home needs some trust building/multiple visits.

> and you've neither had enough bad experiences with pregnancy scares (real or imagined) nor robberies as a result of hoes falling out of the rotation?
Bad things do happen- the question was how to nail 18 year olds not how often does shit hit the fan. The last "rob" was about 2 months ago where a girl snatched some money I left for her on the desk and ran like a pimped hooker... so yea. It happens. Cost of doing business. No real pregnancy scares- I paid for 1 abortion in a whole decade. I don't rawdog unless they have an IUD or similar.

I pay to test them before we rawdog and get mine done while I'm at it to make sure I'm not getting gonosyphaherpalaids.

> these should be sem-annual events at the least.

ehhhhhh, closer to once a year or two. Most people are not assholes and don't want a baby. You're more likely to have bad sex with a starfish than be robbed.

>>29355580
>very likely, anon
>don't condescend to me...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nIA-5l4tRyY?t=98
>I doubt the girls we pay $1000 to would even be on your radar at $300
this is why you're a rookie. less is more. can you tell me why? probably not. that's fine maybe one day.
>point being what I was REALLY after was probably just stroking my EGO masked by being a manic horndog
the market will pay you in-kind. and the usa market, such as it is, is the without a doubt the most distorted shitty market on the globe.

>>29355597
hotel. no incall; too many jack-in-the-boxes.

>>29350890
I've had this without paying. Definitely recommend it. All you have to do is marry a submissive Bi girl and go on an app called Feeld.

>>29355491
>sem-annual events
tell that to my libido
I don't understand the sexcation crowd talking about going overseas. It makes sense, but I get horny more than 1 week out of the year.

Over 50 and I was doing a few cycles of Tren. I wasn't this horny when i was a teenager (and I jacked off 6x a day then), so I HAD to have some outlet because porn is garbage and COVID had everyone on lock down....so whores was the only way to go,,,, I would do escorts 1 to 2 times a week.....for a year.

With sugar babies (years later) it was the same frequency with much less $$
Not advocating just explaining my history/experience. Thats what makes these threads valuable because there is no where else to share

Can anyone give me a full guide, how do you guys actually start doing this? Just cold message on instagram "Hey, thought you're cute would love to pay for your next meal?

And two more questions:
1) Does this work if you're younger, I am 25
2) Does this work in Europe, most specifically southern European countries, Spain, Italy, etc.?

I am fairly atractive and have 3 to 5 regular fuck buddies, but even like this sometimes they don't want anything and I just go for a hooker. But it's hard to connect with them in order to not have only trasactional sex. Also condoms suck lol

>>29355600
>I don't rawdog unless they have an IUD or similar.
>sssshhhheeeeeiiiitttt
lol all that trouble and i'd assumed you hitting it raw. you haven't had a vasectomy? goddamn, dude i'm so sorry.

>>29355621
> the usa market, such as it is, is the without a doubt the most distorted shitty market on the globe.

If cost is no issue why care? I don't go grocery shopping and figure out which steak is cheapest. I buy the steak that has the best fucking marbling and makes me think a heart attack is guaranteed 48 hours after eating it.

Sometime's it's a fucking prime rib, sure... sometimes it's a snake river farms wagyu chuck roast lol

>>29355600
>Most people are not assholes and don't want a baby
not if you're splashing cash irresponsibly.

>>29355648
just to build on this I do find it erotic to pay for girls. There was a girl I matched on a dating app, she was going out, and I just decided to pay for her club entrance just to be nice. She was super grateful after this, and has been super nice to me.

>>29355654
>If cost is no issue why care?
price is reflexive and pussy&lifestyle inflation is real.

>>29355621
>less is more.
less of what? money?
less of woman?
Fucking a dozen 1s does not equal fucking a 10.
I fully admit I'm not MongerKing. If you want to impart your knowledge, this is the thread to do it in.
These are the types of girls I would see regularly
https://msdevyndeveaux.ch/

you're telling me you're jewing down these girls and telling them to fuck you for half off? I'm unsure of your position here

on sugar babies.....different ball game depending on what you want. picrel was the last one I had that would do everything for me

>>29355648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0rTdDFiBNs

>>29355653
> you haven't had a vasectomy? goddamn, dude i'm so sorry.

Yeah well.... I have an irrational fear of cutting open my ballsack and letting someone literally tie my tubes into a knot with hemostats before burning them shut with a cauterizing pen.

This is the peak definition of faggotry, I know...

>>29339543 (OP)
I wish I had this rizz. I'd be worried about being banned from apps, wouldn't want mongering associated with my real identity, etc

>>29355691
> pussy&lifestyle inflation is real

Jpow said it best: Inflation is for poor people. (paraphrasing)

>>29355694
you're telling me you're jewing down these girls and telling them to fuck you for half off?
i'm not telling you shit because you'll just fuck it up for everyone else. no offense.
and those bitches are hags. gtfo.

>>29355636
>I've had this without paying. Definitely recommend it.
working the sugar baby angle off seeking.com... I had two different girls texting me at 1 in the morning wanting to come over. They admitted they were friends texting from different phones. Showered up, they came over by 2am....they were already sauced ended up sucking and fucking after one drink....
THEN they asked for the money.
lol...I said , "oh I'm not about that, I wish you would've said something BEFORE" heh....

I did another threeway with whores in Mississippi.... its always worth it to try at least once

>>29355711
>there is no spoon, neo...
there you go again with your rookie conclusions.

>>29355701
it's a simple outpatient operation now anon. don't be a pussy.

>>29355717
>THEN they asked for the money.
lol...I said , "oh I'm not about that, I wish you would've said something BEFORE" heh....
>based
max would be proud, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJKJPYoqTQ

>>29355729
> Read a whole paragraph on how much I admit I'm being a pussy
> It's simple, don't be a pussy

I'LL GET RIGHT ON THAT ANON.

>>29355714
>i'm not telling you shit
you have a message that you're spamming this thread with. EVERYONE that doesn't do what you do is a faggot.
okay, we get it.
I've replied to you conceding your brilliance but you've never given any specifics
again you're balling chicks on the Dollar General pricing like this?
>>29355694
>https://msdevyndeveaux.ch/

I'll concede that the webms may not be your liking. Have YOU offered anything besides bitching like you're on the rag? I can appreciate rage nuking everyone in a thread. I enjoy doing it myself from time to time. You can offer some substance here besides shitting on everyone. These threads are hard to come by as it is.

Just wait until the rubrankingsanon gets here and starts spamming with his e-begging

>>29355080
Damn she's juicy.

>>29355066
Does granny have an OF?

>>29355714
>those bitches are hags
this must be your first AMP monger thread.
They are normally filled with limp dicks slow pumping 60 year old mamasans
SO SEXO

>>29355765
you're right. it's always the same story and these threads are inorganic overton window ops by the vested interests of the us market that seek to normalize bullshit like paying some dumb cunt thousands which relativity aside will away mean much more to her than the john. honestly, /trv/ is a much better venue in which to profitably have these discussions as most there have broken the programming. good day and farewell to you, sir.

>>29355164
>>maximum value is the name of the game
Oh, you're absolutely right on that
the VALUE, though, is based on the consumer.
IF she charges $500/hr but you feel she's only worth $300......then its up to the buyer to get that extra $200 out of her. Not the other way around

>>29355788
in fact, i fucking love mamasans and they're an exception to my usual preference of nubile hardbodies.

>>29355801
let me make this easy
link to an add or a photo gallery of your bargain bin discount whores that you're so proud of
I'll wait

>>29355803
yeah, it's true anon, everyone loves a sucker.
>news at 11
>one born every minute

>>29355810
>bargain bin discount whores
again, with the rookie conclusions. obviously, you'll never get it and i was totally justified in withholding illumination.

>>29355810
>>29355801

in the olden days you woulda been like "lol jew" or "lol poorfag" to the guy arguing about pussy inflation and that would have been the end of the argument.

anon, she's beautiful

OMG! YOU'RE SPENDING $1000 ON A WOMAN? FOR SEX??
UNBELIEVABLE i CANNOT IMAGINE SPENDING $500 ON A WOMAN
YOU MUST BE A ROOKIE IF YOU'RE SPENDING $200 ON A WOMAN
THE GAUL OF NOT BEING AN ELDER AND KNOWING THE VALUE OF A $30 WOMAN

Ever since 2015 it really feels like there are only 2 types of people in this wold now, those itching to start some kinda of flame war by pressing people on issues or gaslighting until someone takes the bait and they flood in with easily spammed aggressive comments the eventually devolve into dehumanization of some group or flat out calling for everybody to die.

>>29355642
What UGL was the tren from?

>>29356125
>Ever since 2015 it really feels like there are only 2 types of people in this wold now,
i've been on the internet since 1998.
I've been banned on every single platform since.
Its like my dad always said
> There arent but 3 types of people in this world
> Those that can count & those that can't

Tight little chola.

>>29351406
>>29351416
Can you please post everything of her or share where it's posted?

>>29339543 (OP)
Oh boy

>>29339569
>>29339577
I guess she doesn't care about recording?

>>29356256
>Can you please post everything of her or share where it's posted?

This is OC dude.

>>29356241
NEED this with sound

Just sharing some resources I found while searching to learn more...

Podcast (216 and counting, active)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/secrets-of-a-sugar-daddy/id1583631585

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?23844-Philly-Sugar
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14265-quot-Sugar-Babies-quot-and-quot-Arrangements-quot
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19532-Sugar-Baby
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?17487-The-Sugar-Thread-Intel-Reviews-Contacts
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26078-Sugar-Babys
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35608-Alternative-Sugar-Reports-(WYP-SDM-snapchat-FB-Insta-others)
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31818-Sugar-Babies-amp-Arrangements
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

Pretty much endless resources for learning.

>>29339709
Nice bush

Im seeing a lot of appeal to this lifestyle

>>29345423

you mind sharing where you got this girl from? dating app, ig or waitress? also what opener message you sent her that got her to reply and accept

I havent nut in 2 weeks, and have been taking zinc every other day. Cant wait to make a volcanic mess all over my AMP girl's hand lol. I love doing this shit.

>>29350784
Yeah i do but theres no way i would post them. You 4channners would do the same thing i do and use pimeyes and such and doxx them. It would blow my life up, fuck that.

A special thank you to the anons who shared their stories & wisdom.

See you all in the next thread...