The previous thread: >>8535124

got sent to the archives for some reason, so I decided to create a replacement.

For new announcements a new Toriko game, toriko no homura is going to be released on 2025/06/27 - featuring a all teenager cast this time around.

From the story synopsis I guess we will get 4 virgin girls and one not a virgin, but hopefully the non virgin girl is going to have a flashback defloration cg scene in her route.

I guess the reason why we don't have any 'young adult' female's in the upcoming Toriko entry is because it has been 'covered' in the Dash game that releases a month before so Guilty probably doesn't want to duplicate the themes when they are released so close to each other.

Damn, I had the announcement prepared for when a new thread goes up, but oh well.

Here's the link to the official website, released when 4chan was down. Full title is Toriko no Honoo ~An Underground Arena Filled with Flames of Lust~, and I think the artist is Simon.

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/

These are the characters, no VAs or costumes yet. From left to right:

Ayashiro Suzune (protagonist)
> Student raised and trained in martial arts by single father. Dreams of helping people as a doctor or nurse, as she’s seen people hurt by martial arts since she was young.

The story is based on her investigating the Ooura sisters, old childhood friends, and encountering the titular underground fighting ring. Offers to fight in place of Miori.

Shitou Akina
> Cheerful gal girl, good at sports but poor at academics. Saved by Suzune and Ran from delinquents and is now loyal to them. No training but a fan of martial arts media.

Himoto Ran
> Rich girl trained in karate. Self-proclaimed rival to Suzune, even persuaded parents to let her attend the same academy.

Ooura Miori
> Calm, reliable, but distant girl who prioritizes her sister’s happiness above her own desires.

Ooura Miyori
> Shy and physically weak, but lives normally with martial arts training in Suzune’s family’s dojo when she was young.

For the males, we’re shown:
> An old man - host of the illegal fighting ring. Has a grudge against Suzune because her father beat his ass when he was a martial artist in his youth
> A fellow student that believes money and strength gets him anything he wants. Takes steroids (less muscular than the next guy though lol)
> A fighter that got booted from professional play from being a slob and an asshole, but hired by the aforementioned old man. Has a need to ejaculate at least a few times after a fight to calm down.

As a personal note, two girls with silver hair, and sisters at that. Let’s fucking go

>>8558851
Feels like the story is getting a bit more out there with each new title. I certainly didn't expect this premise for a Toriko game.

>>8559012
We did have a few girls with some martial art knowledge in the previous entries, but you're right that we haven't had a scenario where 'fighting' is the main theme yet.

Personally, I hope that it means that we are going to have more scenes where the girls are forced to wear other outfits then their school uniforms in the main game H scenes and that we are going to have more 'clothing damage' scenes compared to the previous Toriko entries.

>>8559092

> where 'fighting' is the main theme yet.
Wonder how that’d affect the dynamic of the sex scenes - will they continue to try and resist because they’re individually strong or will they be forced to hold back their strength because of some blackmail material or leverage that forces them to be subservient? I think either would be interesting, but given the latter has been done before with the previous girls that had some martial arts experience like you said, the former being a more consistent thing, especially for Suzune, sounds best. (And no, I’m not biased with the reason I like Aina).

> wear other outfits then their school uniforms
We see one for Miori in the preview gallery, and it looks pretty wrestler-esque (if obviously blatantly sexualized) but there’s also a section under each character’s VA that says “Costume”, so maybe there’ll be some kind of wrestling outfit-esque cosplay that the character will have to wear either in fighting, in the resultant orgy if they lose, or both.

But I can also see a path for there being more cosplay outfits in general, or clothing damage like you said.

wen new toriko game

>>8559635
Nvm, 6/27, just saw the date. So no delays again, nice.

>>8559625
Based on the character descriptions Akina's and Miyori's routes might be slightly different compared to the other routes, since one is physically weak - even if she has some martial arts knowledge, while the other has no fighting experience.

Personally I'm wondering how the ending's are going to look like.

After all the villains seem to be quite competent and have been doing this 'underground fighting' for quite some time, while the female cast this time has only teenager's in it.

So, unlike the previous recent Toriko entries, it doesn't seem like they have any competent adult's around that could help the girls escape...

>>8560000

> one is physically weak, while the other has no fighting experience.
Oh, absolutely. I was noting a higher level of spunk and defiance seeming likely overall compared to previous game rosters, just from a surface-level look. Miyori’s definitely the one exception, but Akina is described as loyal and will likely be headstrong, and the girls with martial arts training will have a level of self-discipline and self-confidence that would mean there’d be a generally higher level of resistance, especially in the name of protecting another character which the villains could take advantage of.

> the villains seem to be quite competent
Well, Guilty can always use the “the protagonists managing to hold out and not fall to sexual corruption until rescue” route. If we want to add nuance, it could be that people they know ask the police to investigate and they invest a lot of resources if they’ve been pursuing this fight ring for a while. The heroines being involved with them and not submitting as sex slaves end up getting the fight ring caught when their absence or submission would have allowed them to get away. Since one of the antagonists is the actual head of the fight ring, he’s likely going to bend and break his own rules for his own benefit, so that outcome seems the most likely.

But an interesting alternative could be that the audience's approval carries a popular momentum that the hosts can’t just ignore, so if sexual corruption was how the hosts intended to make the girls lose, but they continue to fight, outlasting/defeating their opponents and endearing themselves to the audience no matter what the hosts try, then they could be forced to let them go in the end, at which point in come the police. I doubt the hosts could say “they’ll report us to the police for holding us against their will if they leave” because that might cause distaste in an audience who might have been told the girls were all there “voluntarily”.

What is you're opinion on the latest Toriko art style?

To me it looks a bit better then the previous Toriko no Chikai or Urara, at least based on the cg's previewed so far.

All the girls are still big breasted, but each of them seem to have a slightly different style.

I hope the girl with the pantyhose (Himoto Ran) is going to have a scene with it being torn - maybe during her defloration scene?

It also seems like Guilty put more details into the expressions the girls make, compared to the previous entries.

Finally I hope the shower cg scene's are going to make a comeback since we hadn't had them for quite some time in the Toriko series.

>>8560061
I really didn't care for the art direction of the most recent games so I'm just happy to see something different. Kinda looks like an older art style from a different studio that I can't really put my finger on. Maybe Liquid or BISHOP? I don't play many non-Guilty VNs so could be off the mark.

Already liking it more than Chikai and Urara, but remains to be seen how it compares to my favorites from earlier in the series. The art and character designs from Shirabe up until around Kizuna/Shimai were the peak of the series to me. The Aina IF game was probably a better compromise between new and old but I am willing to give this one a chance as well.

>>8560000
I really like this setting, should make for interesting scenes. Hopefully they do stuff with lots of spectators similar to AV, or live streams of the 'fights', or real AV.
I also hope for a return of fetish outfits for each of the girls.

>>8560061
Honestly it was the opposite for me. I came to like the new style, and Omega had god tier art imo, classic but with a somewhat updated touch? Also they had at least some slight variety with Chisei. Not a big fan of the 'retro' way they draw some of the girls' hair. That said, even though I'm not a big fan of Suzune and Akina art I'm looking forward to having a gyaru in the cast. Ran design and CG is absolutely my type, hopefully she gets a VA to match. The sisters look interesting too, especially Miyuri

>>8558844 (OP)
Old OP anon here, thanks for making a new thread. I'll take over the next one after thread gets sage. 8ch thread for backup
https://8ch@n moe/h/res/6407.html
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/8535124

Guilty (Nightmare/Dash) Catalogs
https://vndb.org/p115 (https://vndb.org/p10006 / https://vndb.org/p12551)

DLC patches, MTL, Resources and FAQ (under construction): https://pastebin.com/hPRZ9fua
Tiermaker: https://tiermaker.com/create/guilty---toriko-nightmare-heroines-jan-2025-17773276

Recent releases:
Nightmare×sisters Ω (Omega) ~Shuumatsu no Requiem~
Nightmare×sisters Ω~終末のレクイエム~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_x_Sisters_Omega/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82731-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/nightmare_sisters_omega.html
MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/selwur.zip

Ore dake ni Kashizuku Haramaid-tachi ~Seishi o Musaboru Gonin no Yokushin Onna~
俺だけに傅く孕メイドたち ~精子を貪る五人の欲心女~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/harameido/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82726-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/harameido.html

Toriko no Shirabe -refrain- if Aina no Shou
虜ノ旋律 -refrain- if アイナの章
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/shirabe_refrain_if_aina/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82230-1-1.html
MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/bctt4u.zip

Nightmare x Maverick ~Saiyaku no Revenant~ The Motion
Nightmare × Maverick~災厄のレヴェナント~ The Motion
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_6_motion/index.html
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82231-1-1.html

Upcoming releases:
Nyotai o Musaboru Settai Ryokan
女体を貪る接待旅館
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/nyotaiwomusaboru_settairyokan/
Date: 30 May 2025

Toriko no Homura ~Underground Arena Filled with Flames of Lust~
虜ノ焔~淫欲の炎に満ちた地下闘技場~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/
Date: 27 June 2025

>>8560061
Same view as >>8560676, one of the rare times that I have to say the design is complete ass. No MILF, Miori has weird long neck, she and Ran have big forehead, Suzune is the worst Akatsuki Hijiri art I've seen after so many improvements over the years, especially how her boobs look asymmetrical and uniform looks too baggy.

Also why do they have a weird green highlight in their eyes? Ironically speaking of retro, one of the artist is Aikawa Arisa who did Rie in Kizuna, and Ran Sem. But can't see any of his good charm in this...

How among the four Guilty games for first half of 2025, this Toriko has the weakest boner killer design made me completely speechless for like the past two weeks that 4chan went down.

>>8558851
Fuck I don't think Simon design can salvage since they likely had to force him to incorporate this bland same style. Fortunately his is not in and his other vanilla title looks better https://vndb.org/v47552

This Toriko game needs the CG to carry it hard, especially with the fighting plot.

>>8560974
>No MILF
The reason why we have no MILF is because of the Dash game that releases a month before the latest Toriko entry and has similar vibes as the Toriko series at least based on the info released so far.

So if you want to play with MILF"s you should get that Dash game.

>>8560061
The anatomy looks weird on this CG though

Considering that the upcoming Toriko title is going to take place in a underground arena, I think there is a chance that the girls could be used by more then 100 men in a single session?

After all the girls can be used by both the male combatants and the audience... so it should be easy for the bad guys to attract such a number of 'participants'.

It would also be nice if we have an after sex cg scene, at least for the protagonist, even if the chance of that happening isn't high.

How many routes do you think Toriko no Homura is going to have?

I think that 5 - 6 are probably the most likely - it depends on whether Guilty is going to have a split between the 'protagonist' and 'whole group' routes like in Toriko no Urara.

What I think would be interesting, based on the plot summary released so far, is that we first have the split into the common 'sister' route (Miori and Miyuri) with Miori's POV and only later in that route (for example once we got Miori's defloration flashback ?) we got a decision split that would make Miyuri involved in the plot.

Basically that Miyuri has been thrown into the lion's den by her own sister..

Looks like Guilty might be going for the usual DLC outfits for Toriko no Homura, based on the attached image

>>8565589
another outfit

>>8565589
>>8565601
The art on those extras actually looks pretty nice imo, I hope they do a dick measuring exam with nurse Miori, sma eas what Sawa had.

>>8563888
I liked the way they did route choices in Omega, basically something other than "r u ogey?" yes/no. But I'd want them to keep the girl's routes more or less separate, like in previous Torikos. It shines a better spotlight on the girl imo and it also helps filter girls you don't like as much / are not in the mood for

>>8565718
Well, I have to say they have put a pretty good match for the santa girl outfit this time around.

Speaking about Santa girl's - which design style is you're favorite so far?

Personally I like a design that has a high exposure rate - basically that it can be treated as a 'swimsuit' or 'erotic underwear' - like Hyouka's for example.

As for the routes - well it probably depends on why the sister's are being targeted by the bad guys - which hasn't been mentioned in the story outline released so far.

>>8565808
Nao OG one has her show some stripping, which I like the simple modification without changing the time or position.

>>8565978
>some stripping
Guilty probably has done that due to the fact that it was pretty much the only gang bang content in the original Shirabe game.

So Guilty put more focus on the quality of the DLC event's compared to now, where imo more focus is put into the main game events and the DLC's are treated as an afterthought.

>>8565808
I like their Santa cosplay, and Guilty has a habit of using some of my favourite girls for that. For me:
Hyouka > Aina > Yuno > All the other Santas
Their clothes are Santa at first glance, instead of some random red bikini. And especially Hyouka's and Aina's scenes have a nice composition imo. If only Guilty would do their bonus scenes normally instead of motion and invest the saved time and money in more text lines or something.

Sei's scene on the other hand is a negative example imo, if I'm allowed to point and shame.
Sei is hot and her cosplay actually has a skirt instead of the usual panties, dunno why they added a thong but so be it. Unfortunately there are no elbow gloves and her thighhighs aren't shown in the CG. The CG itself is way too zoomed in for my taste. Instead of putting a spotlight on the girl and highlighting her body and cosplay her arms and thighhighs are not in the picture and her hat barely fits. Instead there's a buch of dicks in the foreground and her breasts are partially blocked by the hands grabbing them. I know this is criticism on a level many other eroge don't even reach but it still brings scenes down from really great to mediacre. Image composition in general has often been better in earlier games imo.

>>8566228
Well, the last Toriko series title that hasn't had any motion DLC was Toriko no Yugami from 2018.

So if the customer's didn't like this change, Guilty had more then enough time to reverse it.

Speaking about Yugami, I wouldn't mind having another 'young adult' virgin female as the protagonist...

Dash game has finished development, which means that Guilty can now fully focus on the upcoming Toriko game.

Other potential DLC outfits for the upcoming Toriko title

>>8566710

>>8566711

>>8566710
>>8566711
>>8566712

So a rather unique type of bunnygirl outfit, a police outfit, nurse scrubs, and a wedding dress?

That sounds like a pretty unique set of DLC costumes to me in comparison to what was used in previous games, with the return of classic recurring ones like the Santa bikini and gym outfit.

I'm feeling pretty good about this set, ngl, and I don't know if it's just me.

>>8566717
I think the last one is supposed to be slutty maid outfit - at least I got that impression from the head wear.

But I agree that it seems Guilty put a little more effort into the DLC content, at least compared to Urara.

other CG samples

Akina battle costume sneak peek

>>8567130
Looks like a variation of a 'slave' outfit due to that 'collar' on her neck.

It also has a pretty good amount of exposure.

I hope she and the rest of the female cast or going to have sprites in those outfits as well.

I wonder if she is going to have a defloration scene in that outfit, or will Guilty go with the more traditional naked or school uniform approach.

>>8567291

> Looks like a variation of a 'slave' outfit due to that 'collar' on her neck.
The base looks like an idol-ified wrestling outfit with a healthy dose of hentai game skimpiness to it, so the collar definitely fits.

> I hope she and the rest of the female cast or going to have sprites in those outfits as well.
I think this is almost certain - these seem the outfits that they'll be competing in the fighting ring with, meaning there'll probably be a scene where they change in a locker room and their sprite shifts to that outfit for them to approach the fight ring.

> I wonder if she is going to have a defloration scene in that outfit, or will Guilty go with the more traditional naked or school uniform approach.
I'm leaning on that outfit being the defloration, contingent on the idea that their defloration will be after they lose their first bout in the ring, so it's far more likely that the battle costume will be what they're wearing (and really, whatever their opponent wanted for the sex anyway). If it's outside of that then I can see the naked/school uniform approach, but given the premise Guilty is presenting this game as that sounds unlikely.

>>8567297
Akina's route might follow the more 'traditional' Guilty path, since based on the info provided so far, she has no fighting experience and is only a fan of martial art's, so I don't see how could she be 'fighting in the arena'.

Another unknown is how Miyuri's route is going to look like, since she is shy and physically weak even if she does have martial art training - meaning that she might be easily 'corrupted'.

>>8567352

You’re putting too much stock on this fighting ring having integrity with its audience that the showrunners can’t just ignore without consequences (like Roman gladiatorial games). Homura focuses on an *illegal* fighting ring, and the founder has a grudge against Suzune because of her father, meaning he has every incentive to bend or break the rules, even his own, if it means getting payback by proxy through Suzune and those in her life. Plus I doubt the audience is *only* there to watch a good fight. They’re probably there to stick their dick in a female loser.

Akina and Miyuri having no and little training, respectively, will be little protection, and the audience will be given a technically true excuse for their participation, if they even care. Akina “knows martial arts”, and Miyuri “trained before” even though she only did that to shore up her sickly body. Neither have a chance against even the steroids guy, but it’s certain they’re meant to lose the fight part and then worked to be mindbroken by the after-action rape and “publicity events” where “fans” get to “meet” them as if they’re a famous wrestler or something.

Plus, I think there’s enough evidence to reasonably conclude that their routes will play out as follows:

Akina:
> When Suzune is ensnared trying to investigate the Ooura sisters, Akina’s loyalty causes her to investigate, catch the attention of the showrunners, and get roped in herself, perhaps with the offer that if she wins or puts on a good show Suzune will be released (and potentially Ran if she’s already involved).

Miyuri:
> Miori submits in exchange for keeping her sister out of it, but the showrunners pull a sneaky and subtly introduce Miyuri to what’s going on, manipulating her into offering to join to help her sister. Or they could just straight-up kidnap her and start sexing her up with intent to despair Miori, as a plan to break Suzune by proxy once she enters the scene.

>>8567508
Guilty can always do the defloration scenes in a similar way as Toriko no Tsubasa where Yuno's friends have been targeted without the player having any impact on that decision.

After all we most likely have 4 virgin girls and 1 non virgin (although I hope that Miori is going to have a defloration flashback scene)
Basically - Miori and Miyuri have been targeted due to being childhood friends of Suzune and became the 'bait' to lure Suzune in.

Suzune get's defloration raped due to the grudge the main villain has on her father.

Akina and Ran are targeted due to them being Suzune's friends - this probably happens after Suzune 'cherry' is taken.

Miyuri get's defloration raped due to Miori letting her guard down -- either before or after Suzune's 'rape' occurs.- basically it might be something similar to Ririsa 'defloration gang rape' in Tsubasa.

In other words we might have the defloration scenes happening before the 'route split' choices occur.

>>8567834

I’m confused why player input matters - I was implying that “being targeted” means the girls are coerced or tricked into entering the fighting ring in a slutty version of a wrestler’s outfit, lose the fight, and end up deflowered by rape. I do conceded on your theorized defloration order though. It seems reasonable to what I theorized myself, but again, not really sure what makes your claim different from mine.

> In other words we might have the defloration scenes happening before the 'route split' choices occur.
Yeah, it depends on whether this game is a “everyone canonically ends up raped” game or “only some canonically get raped and the rest are non-canonical bad endings.” I'm leaning more towards this game being the latter.

>>8567845
>only some canonically get raped and the rest are non-canonical bad endings

Well, Toriko no Urara, which is bundled with Toriko no Homura in the highest priced 'edition', had spared Kanna and Sei in the 'true' ending so imo Guilty is going to do something different when it comes to the 'true ending', this time around to avoid repeating the plot of the previous entry.

It probably depends on the voice actor's that Homura's cast is going to have but there might be even a chance that we will get post launch DLC's for both Toriko no Homura and Urara - basically something similar to the Kizuna and Shimai post launch DLC where we had Yuna's defloration DLC scene and Maika's swimsuit DLC at the same time due to the two character's having the same voice actor.

>>8566717
>I'm feeling pretty good about this set, ngl, and I don't know if it's just me.
Those CG previews are really nice ngl, especially looking forward to the police cosplay dunno why
Maybe I was too quick to judge their new style... let's hope so

>>8569035
>especially looking forward to the police cosplay dunno why
We had police cosplay DLC with Sara Iori from Toriko Kizuna. Not sure if it's ok to post it here now though, since she had that "underage girl" frame.

>>8565718


The route choices in Omega are a lot of why I think it is the best Guilty game in a long while. It makes the bad endings more numerous and more distinct.

Speaking about endings ... what kind of bad ending type do you think would fit the 'arena' theme that Toriko no Homura has?

I think something similar to Rie's ending from Toriko no Kizuna is likely, but it would be boring if all the girls had the same kind of ending so some form of variety is necessary imo, the girls would be put into a different kind of 'service' like for example 'sex maid, home delivery' ?

>>8571742

I think there’s too many variables to say for now, but here’s some of my speculation.

Observations from CGs:
> Suzune is being raped by Atsuma (ex-professional) - hands look similar
> The men raping Akina difficult to identify; may be generic men
> Ditto with Miori
> No information from Ran
> I *think* Atsuma is the man on the right for Miyori, but I’m not sure. Other guy unknown.

Suzune:
> This one I’m relatively confident about: the old man will definitely keep her as a trophy, and send a recording of her happily servicing his dick to her father. Or if he really wants to push it, get Suzune to lure her father in for capture so he can watch her be a slut in-person.

Akina or Miyori:
> I theorize one of these two (or both) will end up the sex slave(s) of Hayato (steroids guy), because he can beat people with strength but loses to technique. Whether he is drawn to breaking down Akina’s inevitable defiance or corrupting the shy and helpless Miyori, hard to say, but I lean towards Akina. Likely means he’ll be raping them at school or home or the like.
> However, this point is null if the fights are sufficiently rigged, because then a target of Ran or Suzune to power fantasy becomes more likely.
> As a fellow student he likely knows all of the heroines and could want any or all of them.

Miori:
> Likely an ending of just failing to escape. If Miyori is not the target of Hayato, I can see a duo ending for them where seeing a mindbroken Miyori pushes her over the edge. I speculate a focus mostly with generic audience males.

Ran:
> Very little to go off of, so default to Atsuma’s “trophy”. She seems the strong-willed type that a multi-ejaculator like Atsuma would like to toy with.

Tl;dr, they may all indeed be "end up property of fighting ring", but with flavors dependent on their individual places in life, as well as who ends up targeting them the most amongst the male characters, hence being too early to speculate much.

>>8571772
Maybe guilty will do some 'surprise incest' for Suzune with her father.

Something similar to Shizuru's bad ending in Toriko Hime

Although the chance of that happening is probably low.

>>8572062

I did consider that, but I specifically chose to not include it because it strikes me as the sort of thing that would work best as the final push over the edge that breaks Suzune. Because it's clear she respects her father a lot and owes much of her current capabilities and discipline to his training. We don’t really know that much about the father as a person or if he’ll even play a role larger than a walking backstory, so the possibilities are wide open.

There are a couple of ways I can see this playing out. At base:
> The father confronts the old man after Suzune has already fallen and demands her daughter and friends be released, threatening to beat the old man up, and the old man relents but says the girls have become quite popular so he better participate himself and put on a good show in exchange. Perhaps the old man knew the father used to be a playboy or currently lusts after younger girls, or more heroically, is willing to be that depraved to save his daughter.

From there:
> The father would likelt refuse to knowingly rape his own daughter for that, so the old man has him rape one of the other girls he doesn’t know, like Ran or Akina. Seeing her father rape her friends without knowing the context would likely break Suzune.
> Suzune is put into a wall or some other restraining device where her holes are accessible but nobody can identify her, then have her father rape this “loser” for the sake of the crowd, and he walks away oblivious to what he did while Suzune is in despair that her father came inside her and seemed to enjoy it.
> Extreme scenario: her father sees her mother in Suzune and actively wanted to rape her, so being neutral against the old man despite the old man’s burning hatred has him willingly agree to rape his daughter when given the offer.

In any of these cases, she sees her father seemingly having hypocritically betrayed his principles for getting his rocks off, and succumbs to sexual pleasure.

Do you think that Toriko no Homura is going to be the first entry without any 'good' endings?

I don't mean that the girls won't be able to escape, it's just that I don't see it happening without the girls paying some price, since even if most of the girls this time know martial art's they are against a group of adults - who including the 'unnamed subordinates' - overpower the female cast.

Well, it probably depends on how well the villains are going to be written this time around...

>>8573862

No, I think there will indeed be a good ending, but one that, as was discussed in this thread before, make it unavoidable that all the heroines end up raped, because they seem like they will all end up engaging in rigged fights and get raped in front of the audience when they inevitably lose. So less Suzune fighting to protect her friends and more just trying to get them all out of there.

I think, with the way things are described so far, the good ending will rely on none of the girls giving in to sexual corruption by player’s choice. That will result in the girls being retired from the ring, which means they can’t serve as an inside weak point that lets the police, who are likely investigating and potentially have investigators or files that are familiar with the ring, conduct a decisive raid.

And what might the girls serve as a weak point or ankle biter? Well, the hosts arranging more fights to keep raping the girls hoping they give in. So it’s in the middle of one of these fights, maybe with all of them together to gangbang them into submission, where the girls have held out admirably but are on the verge of breaking, that the police bust in to arrest all the important players, permanently shuttering the fight ring.

I base that off of the Aina IF - Aina’s going to go through 95% of the game’s rape no matter what, but refusing to give up at the very end results in her being gangraped somewhere the police, who arrive as a result of the note that Aina smuggled out with her viola case during her first escape attempt, are able to find and rescue her. Whereas if she gives up, she’s gangraped in a basement where presumably the police do show up but are unable to find any evidence of her and leave.

But I’m open to hear what you think, Anons.

New CGs for Dash Inn, while Toriko Homura are just store bonus update

Nice. We might get a good gyaru once again.
Had hopes they would release the Urara DLC for or during golden week, but I guess not

>>8575537
Speculation that the bundle pack will have extra Urara DLC, hopefully free for those that already bought Urara.

>>8575551
Makes sense, it also wouldn't take attention away from Dash inn game

>>8575551
I think that if Guilty planned something like that, they should have announced it already.

After all the bundle edition is already on 'preorder sale' in the Japanese shops.

On a different topic it seems like a small article about the upcoming Toriko title is released in the latest BugBug magazine.

I wish Guilty brought back this type of split screen scene

>>8577116
Personally, I don't see the point of Guilty returning to this kind of scene's - of course in some cg scene's, it might be necessary, but it all depends on the angle that the artist uses when creating the cg.

Not to mention, scenes were the female's are teased with toys occur a lot less often in recent Toriko titles, since the bad guys seem to prefer using actual dicks to torrent them.

>>8573881
Well, it all depends on how the actual 'fights' are going to look like - after all the bad guys can always skip the fighting and go directly to the 'gang rape' phase from the start.

>>8577529

No, I do think there is legitimately going to be fights, at least in the beginning and middle of the story. They may be rigged fights where the girls are ordered to lose or else whatever individual blackmail basis the owner has over them will be followed through on, but fights nonetheless. Otherwise Guilty wouldn’t have written such heavy characterization around the pillar of martial arts for the heroine.

But more crucially, Guilty wouldn’t have tied the characterization of the name-identified men around combat sports, specifically Hayato and Atsuma. Hayato’s sense of superiority is tied up in “I can get whatever I want with strength and money,” meaning it’s likely the old man recruited him for the fight ring specifically on the promise that he can alpha male power fantasy his way through female opponents, both in combat and in sex (the combat part hinges on whether he’s unaware that the old man is pulling strings and mandating that the girls lose and get raped, or he does know but it’s his power fantasy so fuck it). And Atsuma’s even more explicit - he gets most riled up for sex specifically as a result of getting in a fight, meaning he probably demanded in his contract with the old man that he *must* have a fight with any girl that the old man wants him to rape (or he wants to).

But that doesn’t apply to the old man himself, or if the audience is allowed to join in (although even then I doubt the audience would be allowed to go at it at least until a loss is declared). This might start to decay as the story goes on without the girls breaking, shortening or outright skipping fights to get to rapes in the hopes of mindbreaking them ASAP, and as I stated in my previous post, the heroines holding out and refusing to give in might be the condition for the final good ending.

Considering that most of the girls from Toriko no Homura know martial arts, I wonder if it means that Guilty is going to incorporate some of the rougher treatment that the women from Nightmare project get into this Toriko entry.

It's hard to tell from the cg's previewed so far, but considering that we have a few scenes with the girls being bound... the men seem to take into consideration the girls 'martial strength'.

>>8578722

Yes, I think that's fully possible, from multiple angles.

On a meta angle, Guilty might have liked the reception to Nightmare and sought to set up a premise that would justify similar setups of rough sex in a Toriko-style narrative. I dare say Homura might have even been the result of such a desire.

From an in-universe standpoint, yeah, there's the point that the girls are explicitly more fit than in previous entries, but there's also the men on the opposite side of the equation to consider too: Hayato has a pseudo-Social Darwinist view of things and he's unlikely to be sympathetic to girls he's "defeated" and is "superior" to (read: beat with a combination of his steroids and rigged fights) when raping them. Atsuma is described as becoming too hyped up on horniness and adrenaline after a fight, so he's likely to go full throttle regardless of how the girl reacts. And the old man is driven by a metaphorical and literal hate boner for Suzune's father, so he'll likely gladly be rough and tumble with his enemy's daughter and her friends.

The only question then becomes how exactly that will manifest, because I'm not so sure that scenes of shibari or bondage necessarily align with "rougher treatment because the girls are perceived to be stronger." And it also raises the question on whether Miyori will be treated any differently, or if her being physically weaker and less skilled than the others might invite even more rough sexual treatment.

But time will tell.

>>8578722
I think (and hope) this will be the case after Omega has been so well received. Also the Torikos themselves have become more and more extreme. Certainly when it comes to the amount of guys the girls have to deal with each scene (I kinda miss the anon who tallied meat sticks per route, he basically gave me the foundation to choose my first playorder lol), as well as their circumstances. Eg good old physical imprisonment and force in most of Urara and Aina - if vs. more of a psychological prison like in Tsubasa and Shimai.
On the other hand it's also nice to have the girls just deal with the main villains, since their character is more fleshed out than some nameless dick, and they tend to be more sadistic / degrading due to personal grudges etc.
tldr I gues I've become a fanboy and will be satisfied with almost anything guilty puts out...

>>8579329
Well, while the numbers in the Toriko series are definitely improving, imo it still hasn't reached some of the numbers that the older Guilty titles have.

After all in the older titles we had an entire prison being served by a single girl (at least in the 'cannon ending'), or an entire village + extra visitor's.

Well, the current Toriko series - at least if we don't include the recent Toriko IF story into consideration - might have surpassed the level's from Last Waltz (at least in some entries and if we take the DLC content into consideration)

>>8579499
>still no MTL of Last Waltz
why even live

>>8579637

You could use Textractor or LunaTranslator to MTL it yourself as you play. Especially since you can usually pick a translation software that's fairly close if not identical to the ones that SVN uses to make his patches.

Admittedly it's adding a third party into the context so if there exists an MTL patch somewhere I'll always prefer to use that then have to open the window and hook the game to either of those programs, but having the option is nice.

>>8579651
im kinda retarded, do you have any video tutorials on how to use MTL

>>8579673

Let me know if this helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZy6i3Wqpw

And here's the link for LunaTranslator itself - what I'd personally recommend over Textractor. They even have a Discord server where you can ask for help if need be.

https://github.com/HIllya51/LunaTranslator/blob/main/.github/README_en.md

>>8579637
Be the change you want to see in the world. You can just do things
In all seriousness though, the advhd game engine of current titles is a pain in the ass clusterfuck, but those old engines of classic guilty games are even worse, especially since there aren't even any tools to edit the text in a way that doesn't crash the game

tldr >>8579651 >>8579684 is your best bet, shame that Google butchered their 'googlev2'

Website has been updated with additional CGs. Sample voices will be released soon. The X post said they updated VAs for the girls too but the website doesn't seem to reflect that yet, so I can't write them here.

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/

The CGs are Suzune being double-penetrated wearing one of those idol-ified erotic wrestling-esque outfits, Akina being raped doggystyle in her school uniform on what looks like a bed (so perhaps a love hotel or the like), and Ran being forced to masturbate in her uniform at a bar using her fingers, a bottle, and a cucumber.

Odd that Ran is still shown without any actual sex, and Akina's scene shows the sex scenes will take place outside the fight ring in some capacity.

Also, the fight ring is described this way, since it was relevant for some previous theorizing (MTL):

> A martial arts event run by Goo Namakame. He quickly gained popularity through video streaming. Most of the people who step into the ring don't have much experience in martial arts. The selling point is the realistic street fight style matches.

More nuggets of information to theorize with, so curious what you Anons think about it.

>>8584178
Akina has no fighting experience, so her route might have more cg scene's outside of the arena rather then in it.

Even if it's an amateur fighting ring, there still should be a difference on how each of the 5 girls routes develop, imo based on their 'fighting experience', after it would be pretty boring if all 5 routes had the same kind of 'development'.

I have to say, after the CV reveal for Homura, I doubt that we will see any additional DLC's for Urara.

Unless the additional DLC is going to be about Kanna (Suzune for the Homura part) since she is the only voice actor from Urara that appears in Homura as well.

BubBug article about the Inn Dash game:
https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/207739/

What do you think about adding collage female students (japanese equivalent of that education rank) alongside the high school and young adult female's that we currently have in the Toriko series?

That way Guilty can still continue the well developed design pattern that we currently got, but still provide some more variety in the girl's designs and plot - since college students have more life experience compared to the mostly teenage cast that we currently have in the Toriko series...

>>8590985

I think it's unlikely that Guilty will do that, since what you describe about variation in life experience can be accomplished by just adjusting each girl's life circumstances and the maturity of how they carry themselves or how their personality manifests. Or in terms of their body type, again, just make the variation in the characters, since people grow up differently and it's not like they need to stick within bounds of body sizes when in high school, a period of dynamic growth for most people due to puberty.

Plus, Guilty seems to prefer a relatively tight organizational grouping for its heroines, and in Toriko especially all the heroines tend to be affiliated with a single educational institution. Colleges are a degree of separation from K-12, both in terms of campus location and perception difference, so affiliation is looser for college students, even if visiting their alma mater high school or something, and the same point can be accomplished with teachers that work for said school. Rio and Nao both fall under this, likely being in their late 20's or early 30's as a nurse and teacher, respectively.

>>8591008
>Rio and Nao both fall under this, likely being in their late 20's or early 30's as a nurse and teacher, respectively.
Speaking of Nao - I wonder if her character has any chance of appearing of any upcoming Toriko game, maybe another IF chapter of Refrain. Or her VA would voice one of upcoming characters. since she's quite active, at least on youtube.

>>8591621

Being active on Youtube doesn't automatically mean their schedule is available for long-term voice acting since voicing the thousands of lines in a visual novel is no side hustle. Unless she's said somewhere "I've gotten a new contract for a VN!" on her social media or the like (which I assume is an issue for temporary NDAs or the like until the final product is released, so not likely to happen either).

But if we assume that isn't an issue or she's actively willing to voice more characters for Guilty for whatever reason - we've yet to see precedent that Guilty will bring back characters a third time when continued sales would rely on creating brand new characters every installment, so we'll have to believe it could happen when it happens at all for the first time. Don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for returning characters and I would greatly encourage Guilty to use the IF formula more to revisit older popular characters without having to reuse them in a major installment like Rio and Nao were, it's just that we'll need some more time with these new formulas to know what Guilty intends to use them for.

Has anyone been able to get the current version of the Chigiri MTL to work? Whenever I add it to the game it simply crashes. I found that there was an older version that worked but it had extremely small text.

Character costumes have been released for Homura.

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/index.html#character

Also the image for the title has been updated

>>8595319
Forgot the attachment

>>8595319
After looking at all the costumes posted on the page, it seems that only Suzune and Miori have 'arena outfits', which is a bit disappointing, but might suggest that the other 3 girls won't have as much involvement with the 'fighting' theme compared to those two.

>>8595325

Just checked for myself, and you're right: those hentai-fied wrestling outfits is only for Suzune and Miori, who are the only ones that were explicitly confirmed by the introduction to become involved in the fighting ring. The CGs we've seen so far also line up with this. Hell, even the new banner image seems to align with this: Suzune and Miori are the ones inside the ring, Miyori is hanging off the ropes, while Ran and Akina are outside.

Personally I'm fine with only two of the heroines ending up in the actual ring, because circumstances can influence a lot on the type of sex we're going to see. Plus, I think we have plenty of evidence that all the heroines will end up sucked into the criminal network of the fight ring anyway, perhaps with different locations generally being inhabited by one of the three named men we've seen so far. If I had to guess, the love hotel-esque location we see might be where Hayato is prominent, the fighting ring Katsuma, and the bar or wherever Ran's shibari CG is taking place is where the old man Takao is mostly (all of which might be locations run by the fighting ring). That kind of setup might let the old man set up a menu for a certain type of girl available thematically matching each location in some way, and certain types of guys go to each to get a taste of something different, even if the main attraction is the fight ring.

And in terms of motive, the old man would want to target Suzune's friends to get back at her father, but would probably be better served doing all the sex separate from one another lest they run into each other, with the sole exception being Suzune and Miori for whom the cat's out of the bag from the start anyway. That way, should they break, they can be paraded to those two as a coup de grace.

I think this means that Suzune and Miori will have at least a partially dual route, while the other heroines will be separate, possibly preferred by different named men (or groups of generic men)

Wait, isn't the Dash Ryokan supposed to have trial? I know old Dash don't have but this is more Toriko/Nightmare heavy cast and close to their price.

>>8595338
We could still get the other three having additional sprites even for their bad ends like all the cast for Urara (maybe except Kanna since hers is just swimsuit while other group bad end is underwear plus lab coat, already sexy anyway).

I actually like Urara mix routes, where Kanna and Sei had more involvement than in Tsubasa and Noeka ending.

>>8595341

There was no mention of a trial for Homura, and Guilty just posted on X that Ryokan is releasing in a week anyway, so either there will be no trial or it releases with the general release.

> additional sprites even for their bad ends
Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of their content will likely be centered around the outfits we were just given.

> Urara mix routes
I like them too, especially BISHOP's Sansha Mendan, but I think the mixed approach Guilty seems to be going for here seems like a hybrid approach that I’m interested in.

I didn't speculate because space, but I imagine that, aside from the confirmed route of Suzune and Miori spending most of their time in the fighting ring because Miori was already entrapped and Suzune went in to investigate and offered to take Miori's place:

> Either Akina or Ran will try to start investigating Suzune's repeated absences and/or outright disappearance, which catches the attention of the ring, the old man recognizes her as a friend of Suzune, and nabs her for the sake of his revenge but also to whack a potential snoop.
> The other will be targeted by Hayato who may have had a crush on them and got rebuffed, or obsessed with dominating them to flex his “power” superiority. They both have reason to investigate Suzune’s behavior or be targeted by Hayato, but Akina being shown in what appears to be a love hotel tips the likelihood of her being the one targeted by Hayato while Ran is kept in a bar the old man owns to keep her quiet makes more sense.

> Miyori is kidnapped the old fashioned way and thrown to random lackeys or audience members, with intent to sexually corrupt her to be despair insurance for Miori on the off chance Suzune wins and is able to demand Miori’s freedom. Perhaps with a hint of “satisfy these guys and I’ll let your friends go”. Location is too ambiguous to guess otherwise for me, so if you have any ideas do share.

>>8595338
> that Suzune and Miori will have at least a partially dual route

Personally I think Miyori is going to be involved in both of their routes as well.

Not as a 'fighter', but rather a 'hostage' and that's why she's lying upside down on the ropes.

At least that's how I'm reading it, although there is always a possibility that the new title scene is a little misleading.

On a different topic anyone else is seeing that Suzune has a pretty similar design to the teenage Nao (I attached a comparison pic from both entries title cg)?

Another comparison is that like the first Shirabe, in Homura we also have an all teenage cast.

Combined with the art change, it got me thinking that maybe Guilty is trying to do some 'small' reboot to the Toriko series with this entry...

>>8596377
>On a different topic anyone else is seeing that Suzune has a pretty similar design to the teenage Nao (I attached a comparison pic from both entries title cg)?
It's explainable, if she's being drawn by Noba - his characters all got similar facial traits.

>>8596377

Well, considering I used the banner image as additional evidence for my claims, I think what you say is indeed plausible - a hostage is probably the best way to describe Miyori, and her previous martial arts training is probably more flavor text than something that'll play a role in her route.

What I think is the most likely possibility is that Miyori was already in the sights or even the clutches of the fighting ring in some capacity, because we still need to have an explanation as to why Miori doesn't try to report to the police, and Miyori being threatened sounds like the perfect excuse. Perhaps the old man intended to keep the promise not to touch her for the time being, but when Suzune showed up, the possibility of an information breach (plus his personal desire for revenge against Suzune) causes her to break his word and order that Miyori be raped knowing it'd hurt Suzune but also to show Miyori as having been mindbroken to Miori and having her break from the despair.

But this is why I'm not so sure if Miyori will be "involved" in the routes as in they'll be having sex scenes together, at least until near the end of Suzune/Miori's route, because we've yet to see anything that suggests Miyori is not a virgin, so unless some of her sex scenes are flashbacks to the past, it'll still require some time for Miyori to break into a sex slave, and the old man would do well to keep those two apart and unaware of each other's predicaments until one has fallen.

In regards to Nao, yeah, I think an artstyle similarity is the best answer. I've seen this happen in gacha games as well, where nicknames are given to groups of characters that the same artist made with a particularly distinctive artstyle, regardless of if they have any connection in-universe.

>>8596476
I wonder if Guilty is going to try another 'Tsubasa' style prologue..

Basically either Miori has been raped before the game started and we get a flashback to that - or has a defloration rape scene in the prologue, similar to Yuno.

After that Suzune 'reunites' with both Miori and Miyuri.

Sometime after that the villains target Miyuri and deflower her as well, with the first route split occurring at this moment.

Then Suzune learns about Miori's situation and offered to be her replacement and got her defloration rape scene.

Then after a few scene's with Suzune we get some 'discipline' defloration rape of Akina and Ran (with Suzune forced to 'watch')

Then we get a few choices were we either go to Akina's, Ran's or Miori's route's or all the girls learn of their 'situation' and think of a counterattack leading to the 'good ending' or all of them get corrupted - leading to the 'bad ending' - DLC 'events'...

After all, I think a scenario like that, would provide a different experience compared to last year's Toriko no Urara and the villains should be competent enough to do something like that.

Of course that's just my speculation at the moment, since we still don't have any preview cg's on how the Homura's girls defloration scene's are going to look.

>>8596900
I like your story rundown, and I hope the girls literally say 'fuck it, might as well' like in Tsubasa and participate in some large group orgy to buy time to find some dirt on the villains or whatever.

also that menu art (?) goes really hard. One of my favourites so far, on par with Tsubasa.
Imo Tsubasa = Homura preview > Kizuna > Shimai > Urara >>>>>>>> Chikai when it comes to recent titles. Clear connection to the story and shows the bondss getween the girls. Nice

also2 I wonder about the Urara DLC they announced. Usually it was a girl whose VA was in both the old and new works, so does this mean we get a Kanna DLC instead of Tsubasa? I certainly wouldn't mind lol

Which route development sequence do you prefer?

The one where a girl is mostly used by a single men, ending in a big gangbang.

Or the one where a girl is consistently used by a group of men, having pretty much no one on one scene's.

Or would you like some other 'route developments''?

Of course with ganbang's, since I doubt will go back to one on one routes.

Personally I prefer routes where the villains are escalating things - first start with a small gangbang - 2, 3 men in it and then slowly expand the number of men that the girl has to deal with... alongside her own bodies 'development'

>>8597672

Personally I want there to be one single man for the majority of the girl's route, with the person having a basic level of characterization as to their personality, place in life, and reason for preferring or targeting a girl in particular. As I said previously, I like it when a twisted "relationship" develops, ideally with some narrative poeticism within like the guy representing the opposite of the girl's virtue or having some pre-existing relationship, and that influences exactly what types of sex acts are done, in what context/environment, what is said by both parties during those scenes, and the path of how the girl either breaks or stands firm.

I personally see gangbangs as, as you said Anon, gangbangs are more of an escalation that the rapist should use to speed along the breaking of the girl, and something to mark that the girl has fallen into being a sex slave if they're willingly listening to the rapist to pimp herself out or the like. A gangbang as rape, without at least the guy doing the deflowering being named and characterized beforehand, removes some level of individuality that I always want to see at that vital establishing first moment of defloration.

That said, I definitely agree that basically all the character archetypes I like as having a specific individual dominate most of their scenes that can and do benefit from being gangraped from the get-go. I think the best way to handle it was in Shirabe and its sort of hybrid approach, specifically that one guy Takashi that targets Yui specifically. There are one-on-one pairs for a wide variety of reasons, but they're all working together and occasionally swap girls in orgy parties to speed along despairing the girls into breaking.

I think there's reason to think this will happen in Homura - each girl has one named guy for most scenes, but the fight ring being a criminal network means a fair few gangbangs.

Only now realized Liquid Saint Gakuen 3 is delayed till September, so guess Homura has less competition now for sticking their usual annual Toriko June end release date. Still think they should had more time to redo design but if the plot and CG works then I'll take my words back.

Other related games with Toriko artists, Ensemble is also releasing their usual game on the same date as Homura, with Teeta J working on one character. Simon has Hatsukoi Master Up releasing this Friday, same date as the Dash Inn game.

hi new to here

do anyone have English translation (MTL is okay) of nightmare x deathscythe or other game belong to guilty nightmare such as noseblood, maverick and sisters Ω that are not have a english version?

>>8603530

For Sisters Omega, the MTL is here
> https://files.catbox.moe/selwur.zip

And for the others including Maverick, Nobleblood, and Deathscythe, they don't appear to be in the pastebin OP message here >>8560961

So I would recommend checking out either Textractor or LunaTranslator, which are programs that let you hook onto VNs and the like, and get MTL translations of the text as they appear in-game.

Hope this helps, and welcome.

>>8603540
Appreciate! If you are able to help me with this next questions then super.

I see ppl use gpt-4 to translate VN and I see I can do the same with Luna translator but is it needed to have a gpt account with subscription to uses gpt to translate?

>>8603552

I personally don't use GTP-4 on Lunatranslator because I prefer some other translators, so for now my advice is to play around with the various options and see if you like any of them. Maybe you'll even fine one that's better than GPT-4. Beyond that I have no clue about it, so I would recommend LunaTranslator's Discord server to ask about it.

>>8603558
>I personally don't use GTP-4 on Lunatranslator because I prefer some other translators
please recommend your favourites, thanks

voice samples are out for the Homura girls

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/index.html#character

+ sketch drawing for one of the DLC patches

>>8606461
there is also the sketch drawing for the new Urara DLC patch

>>8606463
Wait is that Tsubasa in Nightmare Setsuna cosplay again?

Guilty Dash game has been leaked:

https://www.anime-sharing.com/threads/250530-guilty-dash-%E5%A5%B3%E4%BD%93%E3%82%92%E8%B2%AA%E3%82%8B%E6%8E%A5%E5%BE%85%E6%97%85%E9%A4%A8-h-game.1700178/

need a hook for textractor, using different cracked versions of other guilty games didnt work and crashed the game. Any solutions or alternatives?

>>8606689
No issue using Kizuna crack, reliable since 2020 for all willplus. Only slight hiccup with one line near the start that cause translation to be delayed till next line so need to reset MTL extension.

I'm a little disappointed that Nyotai o Musaboru Settai Ryokan doesn't seem to have defloration blood in the cg's - despite it being mentioned that it's the girls "first time".

Apart from that, from what I have seen the cg's seem to be pretty good - especially the multiple girl scene's.

>>8606894
This part is peak for me

Homura has tough competition from its own brand lol

>>8606914
>Homura has tough competition
Well, for it to become actual competition imo, the Settai Ryokan games should become a series as well - so far we only have two games in it, which is a far cry from what we got in the Toriko series.

Not to mention Homura has only teenage girls in it and the theme is slightly different, so while both are going to have gangbang's in it - and hopefully some group of female usage as well, the cg's are probably going to be slightly different and I don't think that the Homura girls are going to be as easy to 'break' as the girls from the Nyotai game - at least the cg's gave me that impression since I haven't got far into the actual game yet.

>>8606879
i have that same crack file but everytime i try to open it gives me an emotedriver.dll error. i tried installing directx and crt but no luck for this game for me meanwhile other guilty games this method worked. if you dont mind can you explain the process you went through please?

>>8606879
i have that same crack file but everytime i try to open it gives me an emotedriver.dll error. i tried installing directx and crt but no luck for this game for me meanwhile other guilty games this method worked. if you dont mind can you explain the process you went through please?

>>8607217
You need to copy this dll file to the game directory for the game to work. From what I remember one of the newer crack's (- Aina's refrain If should have it.

So now that both the "big budget" titles for the Nightmare project and Dash band's have been released.

Do you think that Guilty should continue the bigger budget games in the future entries for those bands or should they go back to the smaller budget titles?

Personally as long as the quality is similar to what we got with Omega and Ryokan, I wouldn't mind if they continued this, although it would probably be better if they spread out the releases more evenly through the year...

Although it probably ultimately depends on what kind of sales those two recent titles have.

>>8608529
Quick thoughts so far with the maid Harame game, but all three I sorta only done 1/3 progress overall each.

Harame Maid: More preference to go back to map (or room?) view for picking girls, since this time it is just dialogue picks, and require guide to unlock all scenes.

Nightmare Omega: Think because all five girls share one route, there are many instant bad ends similar to older VNs like Fate Stay Night. Doesn't really need guide since just pick the other option if getting all scenes unlocked. Probably back to one choice for true or bad end for maverick sequel.

Dash Inn: Follows similarity with recent Toriko titles of each girl has own route, with other girls still being affected. Quite enjoyable so far.

One thing I wish is Guilty spread out the games throughout the year rather than squeezing it all to the first half. If they had to make Toriko in June, then push the other games back. Think their sister brand Ensemble game got delayed might indirectly be from Willplus weird mismanagement.

Random thought, Hatsukoi Master Up has been released, which has characters drawn by Saimon. His characters actually include their three sizes... so one can now compare and estimate the cup sizes of Rei and his other Toriko characters.
https://azarashi-soft.nexton-net.jp/koimasu/#story

Also anyone used this?
https://github.com/neavo/LinguaGacha/blob/main/README_EN.md

Spotted this from Hatsukoi Master Up VNDB MTL and seem useful for anon doing the MTL for guilty games.

>>8608839
>Also anyone used this?
Online AI often doesn't do NSFW. at least not without some funky jailbreak prompt. Iirc Lunatranslator already has that functionality built in, as well as offline AI capability. Translator++ has all sorts of addons for all sorts of online and offline AI, some (most?) are even for free. Going line by line while you play is kinda bad for AI since it will have more problems to infer pronouns then when you do batch translating imo. Dunno your mileage may vary. If you wanna try offline LLMs for translation check out lmg anon on huggingface https://huggingface.co/lmg-anon

>>8608839
Forgot to mention, according to Sugoi Translater dev there will be a really big update to Sugoi Offline Translator with new LLMs and the stats he published would put it somewhere around lmg-anon's vntl-gemma2-27b, maybe slightly better. Unfortunately there are apparently still the usual problems with pronouns. You probably need capable hardware to run this, but since Textractor and LunaTranslator already have Sugoi integration it should be possible without much tinkering, contrary to some other local AI solutions

So based upon the cg's that Ryokan had...

I speculate that Homura is going to have:

- quite a lot of cg's in partially undressed state - I don't except a lot of fully nude cg's considering how many of them we had in Ryokan,

- it's going to depend on the route, but I think we are going to have quite a lot cg's with the girls in their school uniforms

- I think we are going to get a bit less multiple girl orgy cg scene's, considering how many we had in Ryokan.

>>8610964
Not seeing how those 2 inertwine.

DASH is a separate sub-brand, no matter what CG's it has - it is not set in stone same things would be applied to main brand of Toriko. Earlier DASH titles contained urination, femdom, male anal penetration - did any of those make it to upcoming Toriko title? spoiler alert - NONE.

It's like taking few cg's from Nightmare x Omega and claiming "LOOK! RIGHT THERE! SNAKE PENETRATION!! Next Toriko game would definitely feature bestialty and pregnant gangbangs!

>>8611183
It's because the next Toriko entry releases a month after the latest Dash game has been released and Ryokan has a similar theme to the Toriko series.

It probably wouldn't matter that much if Ryokan was a low budget game, but since it's sold at the same price as the "base" Toriko game,
Guilty obviously, wants both to sell well.

So, they might have purposefully developed them in a way so that their content doesn't overlap too much.

So in those circumstances the cg content of Ryokan might provide some hints on what kind of content Toriko no Homura is going to have.

>>8611183
>>8611252

Exactly. The examples you gave of bestiality is a hentai trope that falls under "It depends on the setting, which is kept vastly different between Nightmare, Toriko, and DASH's projects", so not as valid a comparison. Nothing outright bars it physically from happening within the Toriko universe, but it goes against the general tone (relative to setting) that Toriko and DASH use, compared to Nightmare which is more fantastical and is easier to handwave because of the types of entities involved in raping the heroines (as well as the exclusivity argument the previous Anon said).

Also, pretty sure the only reason pregnant gangbangs isn't a thing in Toriko is because not enough time has passed in-universe for that to be the case anyway (or an offhand mention about birth control when pimping a broken girl out), so Guilty choosing not to include that is the only reason. It has every chance to happen in-universe after the story concludes.

What the Anon guessed is significantly more general and less setting-specific, which falls into the "they want to differentiate the types and details of scenes used in each" that the previous Anon said, and I'd argue that their points can on their own stand as reasonable within the setup of Homura.

> Partially undressed
Consistent with the CGs thus far.
> School uniforms
One of the named male antagonists is explicitly a fellow student that likely targets at least one heroine outside the ring by using what happens in it as blackmail, or at least in some other facility like a love hotel owned by the ring, and also consistent with the CGs thus far.
> Less orgy scenes
Consistent with Toriko in general, and the oft-used narrative structure where the heroines are kept isolated and unaware that their friends are being raped, contrasted with an inn where there's little to no incentive to hide that between the heroines, hence more orgies. I wouldn't be surprised if orgies were just an end-of-route/bad end thing.

Regarding Toriko no Homura, I hope that we will have a visual indication that the girl has lost her chastity.

Since, I prefer it being confirmed visually in the cg that the girl has been deflowered, instead of it just being mentioned in the text...

>>8611999

Good God, yes, I want that to be for every heroine. And what's weird is that in some installments they're inconsistent with whether a character has that obvious defloration blood or not (image related), with some characters having obvious blood and others not, without so much as an in-universe explanation of, say, "you must have broken it while doing athletic stuff" for certain characters. Funnily enough, that statement does apply pretty strongly to the Homura heroines but hopefully they don't pull that card on them.

>>8611308
>Also, pretty sure the only reason pregnant gangbangs isn't a thing in Toriko is because not enough time has passed in-universe for that to be the case anyway (or an offhand mention about birth control when pimping a broken girl out), so Guilty choosing not to include that is the only reason. It has every chance to happen in-universe after the story concludes.

Bit of a tangent but there have been opportunities with a lot of different characters' endings for them to include pregnant sex scenes. I think it has been a purposeful choice not to have them in the Toriko series so far.

It would even have fit the theming well with certain villain/victim relationships, like the teacher in og Shirabe who was into Nao's mother. Bro mentioned he wanted to get her pregnant like 10x in one of the scenes at the end of that route. And she had quite a few DLC scenes that were months after the initial story took place.

Also would have worked perfectly for Jun's route in Shizuku because of how her relationship with Someya evolved. I'm sure there are other examples. But yeah if they wanted to put pregnant scenes in the series it would have been there by now.

2 new preview cg for Homura

>>8616802

Hm, so a spitroast for Miyori in a classroom in a partially undressed uniform, and Suzune and Miyori, neither of whom seem to have been broken yet, being gangraped in their school uniforms. Interesting.

I think some of the previous theories in this thread are receiving some more merit in regards to state of partial undress and school uniforms. But it really makes me wonder how much of the sex scenes will be within the ring or its associated facilities and how many will be at school. And will certain male characters show up more in either location or will they all show up regardless of location?

Personally I'm pumped though - partially unclothed is awesome and varied locations changing the dynamic of sex scenes depending on whether the girls might get caught or not is always good.

>>8616806
The preview cg is actually portraying Miori and Suzune (noticeable due to the hair decoration on her hair)

Personally I also wouldn't be sure if it isn't a cg scene from the last stages of Miori's route, due to the expression that she makes.

Basically we might get something similar to Toriko no Urara were multiple girls are involved in some of the bad ending's.

Which is something that I like, since it makes the villains actions more "realistic", since I don't understand why the villains in some older Toriko titles spare the other girls, when the one they made a "promise" with already got "broken" by them.

At least one DLC outfit for each heroine has just been announced on X: Suzuna in a pink bunnygirl costume, Akina in a Santa bikini, Ran in a maid outfit, Miori in nurse scrubs, and Miyori as an exhibitionist police officer.

Were these known to us before? I saw a picture posted above of Miyori in the police officer uniform but I believe this is the first we've seen of the others (?)

>>8619705
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/special_shop.html

The pattern has been the motion patch following the store exclusive artworks, with exception of one being Suzune in gym clothes, like Tsubasa in Urara.

The skipped one is usually for the free new year patch, but pattern broke since Urara did collab gacha with Otogi frontier instead. Not sure if Tsubasa will do gym costume since she seems to be in another Nightmare nun costume.
>>8606463

>>8614299
Guilty probably doesn't want to add into an already pretty "dark" series, the topic of what will happen to the child after she is born.

Especially if the child turns out to be a girl...

Although, Guilty did some "mother daughter" bonding scene's in the past, but a girl born in a "slave" environment is imo another level of a "messed up" situations.

>>8620571
IIRC, some kind of that scenario was once played in several Bishop titles - one of the enslaved girls gave birth to a girl, who ended up as another victim of next game protagonist. The difference is, though, Bishop setting was one-on-one encounters, while in Guilty setting the girl would likely to be groomed until she reaches her "fertile" age, which would trigger enough of those brain-fucked "kid defenders" basically signing death warrant for the title.

Unless somehow her mother doesn't give her a chance to escape/break out , followed by girl growing up, nurturing revenge plan against kidnappers, which will still end up as latest Urarra - "avenger" gets caught and turned into another cum dumpster.

BugBug magazine pages for Homura.

Ran seems to have a new cg of doing a blowjob in school?

There is also the cg of Suzune being raped with her hands bound...

>>8621962

Not just that: Miyori is shown inside a fancy car - possibly a private limo - spreading her legs, and Akane is shown being gangraped in what I think is the martial arts uniform she has on the official website.

Odd that Ran and Miyori still aren't being shown to be having any penetrative sex in any of the CGs. Maybe that's to show that they're intentionally toyed with in every way except deflowering them? If so, maybe the intent is to corrupt them to the point of mindbreak, then present them to Suzune and Miori to show them willingly beg to be deflowered and finally have sex.

And on a lore note, this illegal fighting ring must have crazy connections, possibly even political ones, to be able to have limos and love hotels and possibly even the academy the heroines attend be involved in illegal activity and still not get caught.

>>8621968
> must have crazy connections

Hasn't that been always the case, from the start of the Toriko series?

After all, that's one of the reasons why reporting the "bad guys" rape actions would be ineffective and the reason why blackmailing the girls was effective - for some time at least.

>>8622089

Well, not necessarily. I was speaking about how this fighting ring seems to be at a scale that depends not on physical isolation (like Urara) or personalized blackmail (like Miyake and the twins or the drug dealers in Shirabe). To have limos, love hotels, bars, and of course the signature fighting ring in massive, crowd-drawing venues is pretty impressive in isolation, and likely implies political backroom deals and monetary influence fitting of a large organized crime group.

It'll be interesting for, say, the police to be in the pocket, or at least the majority is in the pocket, of the old man and the fighting ring, which cuts off the previously most theorized way that a good ending could play out.

>>8620612

Which game was that again?

>>8622111
From what I remember of Urara the police were also in the pocket of the school, at least locally. And the media too.

So if you have anons been in control on how the Toriko series develops, what would you change / add?

Personally I would do:

- some more variety in the girls design

- pregnant bad ending's at least for the MC or the villains "main target" - or at least mention the fact that they have been pregnant during the women's bad ending.

- have some "internal" reaction from the "deflowered" women about the fact that they have been raped (in recent entries by multiple men) - I know that the women from the Toriko series have a strong willpower, but we are talking about chastity here and the game is made from the female's POV so I would think that it would be a bit more of an issue for the girl to get used to the fact that she isn't "pure" anymore...

- the above point can be done in the shower of shame scene, which hasn't got used for some time in the recent entries...

- add more scene's were the victim's friends notice something unusual about her behavior...

- add a bit more grown up previous character's appearance's as the not virgin character - after all the recent entries had a few voice actor's that return as new character the next entry after their previous role - Kanna and Suzune are the latest example so a similar approach can be used for "returning character's"

>>8623352
>So if you have anons been in control on how the Toriko series develops, what would you change / add?
Single heroine focused game like Torikohime/Aina if, bestiality scene for extra degradation, (involuntary) porn filming, 'paying' for stuff with the girl's holes (last two aren't that rare, but I'd like to see them more often). So basically Guilty as they were a few years ago but with today's art I guess.

>some more variety in the girls design
that would be nice. Chisei was a great step in the right direction imo, unfortunate that they didn't do someone similar in Homura

2 more new preview cg's for Homura

The two CGs seem to be: Akina being knuckle-fingered (?) in the ass before being double-penetrated, and Ran being held in a full nelson by one guy and raped by another. Both CGs seem to be taking place in the fighting ring.

Well there goes my curiosity on why Ran didn't seem to be getting any penetrative sex scenes shown. But the outfit Ran is wearing is odd - it most closely resembles the karate uniform shown on her list of outfits but the belt is red, not black, so there no doubt has to be a story behind that.

>>8625321
> the outfit Ran is wearing
It might be the girls "battle outfit", but unlike Suzune and Miori the other girls don't have a "sprite" for it.

Akina's pink top might also be a part of her "battle outfit" with the lower half being removed in the provided preview cg.

It has already been used in previous Toriko entries like Ikumi's wet "miko outfit"

Ran's nelson scene made me wonder if the defloration scene's in Homura are going to be even more "brutal" compared to the previous entries. .

In the sense that the guys are even rougher in using the girl as a "living onahole" and don't care at all that's it's her first time.

After all, this is the first time that I see the bad guys using more extreme "physical" means to keep the girl restrained...

Maybe the demo that is most likely going to be released at the end of next week, will spoil some of the virginity loss scene's but the chances are probably minimal.

>>8625914

I'd say that's very likely, maybe even guaranteed, for Suzune at least, and any flashbacks for Miori. Because they'll likely lose their virginity or lost their virginity, respectively, after losing their debut fight, right in the ring after their loss. It's unclear whether the same will be true for Akina, Ran, and Miyori from what we know so far, but if they're going to be adding that overall tone I don't see why it can't be rough in the same way, or at least with a slightly different approach.

BugBug article about Toriko no Homura

https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/212243/

>>8626420

Notable points in the article, seen through MTL:
> Game is called a "dark worldview masturbation game". However that will manifest in the final product, it seems the theory that Guilty took cues from Nightmare's success to Homura has another piece of potential evidence.

> New CG of Akina being raped in the martial arts uniform shown in her profile, with the caption "Even if you have no fighting experience, you won't be forgiven in the ring."

> Miori is described as taking a "well-paying part-time job" in the ring for money so Miyori with her frail body doesn't have to work. Perhaps either a debt of some kind or needing to economically stay afloat for her sister's sake.

>>8626424

One additional CG of a rope-bound Suzune being gangraped in the article.

If any Anons find any CGs that weren't already on the website, do post them.

>>8626424
It also seemed to imply (based on MTL) that despite her sister protecting her the fangs of men have reached Miyuri as well.

Which made me think that the prologue (before Suzune's rape) might be about Miori's situation and Miyuri's defloration rape - after that Suzune, Akina and Ran are going to get "involved".

So based upon the info we have about the Homura girls and that we probably won't get more preview cg's...

What is you're current interest ranking when it comes to the girls?

For me it's:

1.) Akina - I'm interested to see how a non martial artist girl is going to cope in a martial artist environment

2.) Suzune - mostly due to the potential of the "revenge" plot of the old men villain

3.) Miori - we know that she has at least one threesome scene with Suzune

4.) Ran - I'm interested to see if, after she gets corrupted she is going to have a rivalry with Suzune on the number of sticks they are able to serve, basically based on the description I see a chance of a multiple girl scene's in her route as well.

5.) Miyori - the least amount of cg's shown, so Guilty obviously wants to hide the plot of her route nit, what has been previewed, hasn't impressed me that much, which is the reason why she is at the last place at the moment.

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So based upon the info we have about the Homura girls and that we probably won't get more preview cg's...

What is you're current interest ranking when it comes to the girls?

For me it's:

1.) Akina - I'm interested to see how a non martial artist girl is going to cope in a martial artist environment

2.) Suzune - mostly due to the potential of the "revenge" plot of the old men villain

3.) Miori - we know that she has at least one threesome scene with Suzune

4.) Ran - I'm interested to see if, after she gets corrupted she is going to have a rivalry with Suzune on the number of sticks they are able to serve, basically based on the description I see a chance of a multiple girl scene's in her route as well.

5.) Miyuri - the least amount of cg's shown, so Guilty obviously wants to hide the plot of her route nit, what has been previewed, hasn't impressed me that much, which is the reason why she is at the last place at the moment.

So based upon the info we have about the Homura girls and that we probably won't get more preview cg's...

What is you're current interest ranking when it comes to the girls?

For me it's:

1.) Akina - I'm interested to see how a non martial artist girl is going to cope in a martial artist environment

2.) Suzune - mostly due to the potential of the "revenge" plot of the old men villain

3.) Miori - we know that she has at least one threesome scene with Suzune

4.) Ran - I'm interested to see if, after she gets corrupted she is going to have a rivalry with Suzune on the number of sticks they are able to serve, basically based on the description I see a chance of a multiple girl scene's in her route as well.

5.) Miyuri - the least amount of cg's shown, so Guilty obviously wants to hide the plot of her route nit, what has been previewed, hasn't impressed me that much, which is the reason why she is at the last place at the moment.

What is you're best 3 ranking of the Toriko series entries released so far?

For me it's:

1.) Toriko no Tsubasa
2.) Toriko no Shimai
3.) Toriko no Urara (mostly due to the amount of multiple women scene's in this game)

And do you think that Toriko no Homura might change you're ranking based on previewed so far?

For me it might, at least I'm optimistic based on what was previewed so far.

>>8629764
1) Shirabe is easy for me, by far the most replayed and favorite all around cast of the series, I doubt they ever top this in appealing to my personal tastes

The other rest are a little more tricky to rank but I'll probably say 2) Kusari and 3) Kizuna

Kusari because of the solid all around cast + motion version and Kizuna mostly because of Rie being my favorite character in the series

Homura will probably place above Urara and Chikai because of the art style so I expect it to be middle of the pack but not change the top of my list. Could see it happening if I really like one or two of the characters though. Definitely lookin forward to it more than some other recent titles.

I'm on a more "oldschool" side:
1. Shirabe (Nao IF scenes were the ones that made me Guilty games fan)
2. Chigiri (not pulling punches by raping either adults, teenagers and underages, since Rio's sister was definitely underaged)
3. Kizuna - last game to feature a petite-type of character, also, the darkest one for it's time, presuming off-screen death of Yuri in one of the endings

Trial version of Homura announced by Guilty on X an hour ago. It'll be released "today", but the post itself suggests it'll happen in the next 24 hours and not yet out.

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1935186112319988025

>>8631082
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/special_trial.html

Trial is up

Battle sprites

Need to head out so no time to add their expressions.

Deadpool: FYI… your tailor is a predator, but I love it. Snug.

Btw anyone knows how to recompile PNA? Thinking of doing an edit of all the Homura girls regarding their eyes lighting, but not sure how to recompile to PNA. I know GARbro and extract them just no repack tool like ARC.

Am willing to share the eyes edit files if some anon can recompile on their end.

>>8631165
So I guess that means that Guilty hasn't previewed all the battle outfits on the website...

In you're opinion which outfit is the most embarrassing for the girl ?

Personally I think either Akina's or Miyuri's is on the first two places, fallowed by Ran's outfit. (due to the bottom half)...

As for the demo contents, I'm a little disappointed that Guilty hasn't shown any new cg scene's that haven't been previewed already, but it's nice to know more about the game contents - for example the soundtrack.

>>8631334
Although I also hope that this cg is going to make it to the main game - maybe as Suzune's defloration scene ?

Since it's rare to see torn clothes in Guilty game actual cg's.

That Backgroung is really nice imo, one of the best they ever did even on par with Tsubasa BG in my book
Ran's tears and Miyuri's tears + dead eyes at the end of the CG are a nice touch nice as well.
Still not comletely sold on the artstyle, but I like it more than I thought at first glance

>>8631258
https://github.com/DarthFly/advhd_ws2_tools?tab=readme-ov-file
scroll down to 'PNA Merge'
It's probably doable if you 'only' want to redo the eyes, but for how much hassle?

Well, the demo at least confirmed that Miori is not a virgin already.

The rest of the cast should have their chastises intact.

I hope that Guilty is going to continue the chastity loss flashback in the not virgin character's route, that has been introduced in Urara... since I'm not fond of having another Hyouka type character...

Until we are waiting for Homura release, I'd like to ask a question.
Let's be optimistic and assume that a new IF title is released at the end of this year. Which character do you think it should focus on?

My choice would probably be Yuno from Tsubasa.

>>8633475
Yuno's voice actor hasn't had any new works (at least based on vndb) for 2 years, so it's hard to say if she is still in the industry.

Maybe Kino or Honami, since both of their voice actor's seem to have been working on some other titles in this year...

If you want my speculation without looking at the voice actor situation, then ideally I would like a Hyouka IF story - this time with a defloration cg.

Regarding the Toriko IF series, I just got another idea that Guilty might try to attempt?

Why don't they create Toriko IF titles from the older series - like the first Shirabe with new voice actor's for the female character if they aren't available.

It's from an older title so maybe the fans, will be a little more reasonable in this situation.

Of course, it depends on how popular the chanter's for the older Toriko titles are...

>>8634204

Honestly, IF about characters from older Toriko games all grown up like Nao and Rio were integrated into larger releases. If they might detract from a character slot otherwise, that might be an interesting thing to explore.

Would you like Guilty to attempt something new in the latter half of this year?

For example a Chikan game project - (from the victim's POV :)

I know that some Toriko series entries had chikan moments, but it wasn't the main focus of the game...

>>8635148
IMO, some occasional segments should remain occasional. Toriko games featured chikan, alongside with concealed vibrator in public, they had their share of prostituting victim to homeless/random strangers in parks (Rina from Yugami, Aina from Shirabe Refrainm Rio from Chigiri) and that's the point - it loses it's appeal when turned from occasional scenes to continuous plot. My guess is, Guilty are not yet ready to take that leap of faith, especially after their last Dash and Nightmare title releases.

What do you think about a plot for the Toriko series were the MC and maybe a few other girls have already been captured and confined by the villains?

With the prologue showing the events that led to the MC "confinement"..

The other girls naturally lost their virginity as well, but we will have flashbacks on how that occurred....

The other girls don't know the MC, but due to the similarity of their situations, they all plan to escape.

Basically something similar to the Island from Toriko no Urara, or the prison from Toriko no Hime...

>>8635549

I don't see any reason why Guilty wouldn't do this, although part of me thinks they'd prefer to show the defloration onscreen for at least a majority of characters (which doesn't preclude the actual nature of the heroines' kidnapping and confinement to flashbacks, especially if there's any sort of death game or even memory loss at play.

I wonder if Miyuri is going to change her hairstyle to something more similar to Miori, once she gets corrupted.

Since she is the only female character in Homura who ties her hair up...

Does anyone know what time Homura will be available on torrents? Is it going to be thursday after 12pm est?

>>8639661

My guess is Saturday EST. Long ago, the Toriko games took a while to get torrents, but the last few have tended to be pretty fast.

>>8639661
Depends on whoever rips faster, it varies from within 24 hours like Urara, Nightmare Sisters Omega and Maverick, or almost a week like Nobleblood and some Dash games.

Just refresh anime-sharing or mikocon for DL since torrent also takes time to seed.

>>8639715
I see, I thought it'd be thursday after 12pm est cause technically it'd be friday in japan already haha.

>>8639716
I know about animesharing could you link mikocon website?

>>8639752
Nvm I found mikocon, looks like past few guilty games were uploaded on the same day.

Homura release illustration

I found some chinese guy's tg channel that I think uploaded Homura. Im kinda afraid to check in case his shit has viruses, so can somebody check and maybe upload on animesharing or somewhere else where mods moderate and ensure that it cant be viruses?

I cant send links but just type "galgpt" in tg and his recent post was 3 files thats homura.

>>8642273
forgot pic

>>8642273
>>8642277

If it's been uploaded there and it's legit, that's arguably the biggest step in getting a full crack for people on animesharing or other moderated board to verify and post themselves, so we shouldn't have to wait for long if this upload is indeed Homura.

>>8642283
its presumably homura cause he posted about it before and I used google translate on all his recent posts lol. Im just too afraid to download something from random tg channels found on google. I think the chances of it having virus are like 5% but dont want to risk even 5%. Nothing on mikocon or animesharing yet.

>>8642323
someone (other than me) gotta take one for the team. Maybe the big releasers will just repack this, but still, as you said, not gonna leech from some random chinese tg kek

>>8642334
Well to the people who are still questioning if it was legit or not, it seems to be legit and it has both the crack and DLC so feel free to download it if you can't wait around for the animesharing site.

>>8642371
Did you download it and scan for viruses and it 100% has no viruses?

>>8642392
I did a scan and nothing has alerted me to the files having viruses.

>>8642371
>>8642395

If so, mind sharing a link?

>>8642396

https://t.me/galgpt

>>8642392
can confirm that at least windoes defender says it's safe (zip files as well as unzipped)

>>8641562
I love Noba's art and the girls he draws.
Although I miss Simon, not seeing a girl drawn by him feels strange.
Let's hope he's available for the next Toriko.

>>8642283
been 4 hours and still not on animesharing or anywhere else, do I bite the bullet and download from that telegram group?

>>8642531
It's on sukebei now. But the telegram files at least start the game and my pc ist still running lol

>>8642557
Sukebei is safer to download from, right?

woah, already a new game?

>>8642571
always has been

>>8642586
great, thanks

So, anyways, here are the links:
Game with shop patches and DLC content:https://www.anime-sharing.com/threads/250627-guilty-%E8%99%9C%E3%83%8E%E7%84%94-%EF%BD%9E%E6%B7%AB%E6%AC%B2%E3%81%AE%E7%82%8E%E3%81%AB%E6%BA%80%E3%81%A1%E3%81%9F%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8B%E9%97%98%E6%8A%80%E5%A0%B4%EF%BD%9E-ero-patch-souki-patch-h-game-crack.1718797/

Game save:https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/torikonohomura.html

>>8642627
I installed, replaced advdhd.exe with the one from urara and its not loading, giving me an error about emotedriver.dll. Anyone knows why? Are we still using the same old crack from any previous guilty games?

>>8642648
nvm solved it, missed the link for the crack

Looks like all new scenes are gangbangs and no 1:1 scenes and no toys/bondage/public etc. I really liked the combination of everything in the past guilty games, seems like the last good game with everything was shimai.

Seems the Urara patch for Tsubasa cosplay is still missing

>Looks like all new scenes are gangbangs and no 1:1 scenes and no toys/bondage
good
Went through the game quickly and it looks like a good fap. art is wonky here and there but nothing too bad. I really love the setting this time so I will read for sure if there's a decent mtl
Most of the scenes are just what I wanted, but as usual with modern Guilty the main reason I'm not ranking these games as god tier is mostly because of the seiyuus aren't great. They sound fine for the story but they don't in fck scenes to me, unlike in older guilty games, I really wish they improved that. It's a small detail but really important for me

Personally I'm glad that it seems like Guilty is continuing the virgin loss flashback's introduced in Urara.

Looking at the cg scene's it seems like apart from Miori and Suzune the rest of the cast has 2 defloration scene's so I guess Guilty went with the Shimai route ?

>>8642705
I like their seyuuus but there are plenty of games with gangbang, few games with 1:1. I only know of bishop/syrup. I miss old guilty games like yugami/refrain where half of the scenes were 1:1 or hidden in public or toys stuff.

>>8642726
>1:1
It's unlikely that we will go back to those kind of scenario's.

It probably has to do with the market,

Basically, imo Guilty produces content that gauntness them enough sales to stay in the green.

Meaning that if enough buyer's liked the 1:1 content, we would probably have more of it.

Going back to Homura I'm a little disappointed about the timed patch which again has no group cg's, but at least the modified "uniform's" look nice.

>>8642726
>1:1
It's unlikely that we will go back to those kind of scenario's.

It probably has to do with the market,

Basically, imo Guilty produces content that guarantees them enough sales to stay in the green.

Meaning that if enough buyer's liked the 1:1 content, we would probably have more of it.

Going back to Homura I'm a little disappointed about the timed patch which again has no group cg's, but at least the modified "uniform's" look nice.

Also, why does homura have no fullscreen non-hentai CGs? For some emotional moments. All previous games had those.

>>8642762
Maybe Guilty this time just, didn't have enough development time to add them.

After all Toriko no Homura is the 4th "big budget" game that Guilty released in the period of 3 months...

>>8642762
I don't remember Urara having any though, and think no one complain in their survey so they just omit it for their games from now on

Are they getting raped in front of a big audience this time? That's hot

Do you prefer Homura's all teenage and probably underage as well, female cast or would you like Guilty to return to a mixed group of teenage and young adult female's?

Personally I think a younger cast better fit's the "virgin" theme that most of the Toriko female's have, but that might be just me.

>>8643523
Sir???

>>8643769
I know that Guilty always mention's that, but it's a little hard for me to accept, based on how young some of the girl's in the older Toriko titles looked like.

And despite the girls in Homura having more developed bodies, some of them still look pretty young to me, like Miyuri for example.

Have people found a program or code to hook the text? New game is a new executable/crack so the old one doesn't work anymore.

>>8644072
My old crack since Kizuna still works and auto hooks with Textractor

Anyone managed to get the Toriko no Urara new DLC?

So far, I only managed to find an updated gallery and it seems that the DLC event is a crossover with Homura where Tsubasa (with long hair) is used in a battle outfit in Homura's arena, which is definitely interesting...

>>8643523
that's a nice ass being squeezed.

>>8644284

Is there any suggestion that this could suggest an in-universe coexistence between Urara and Homura? Guilty's obviously very vague about this in the Toriko series but it might lend itself to interesting possibilities for IF games or DLCs where characters from other games are put into situations of other games for a brief few scenes.

>>8644270
>My old crack since Kizuna still works and auto hooks with Textractor

I'm getting a missing "emotedriver" error with the old AdvHD file, even after a reinstall. The newer crack works but it has the missing character thing where hooks only get the first appearance of each letter.

>>8645465
you need to use advhd from the link, old adhvd wont work.

>>8645465
If your old AdvHD crack still works with the older games, copy over the emotedriver.dll file and it should be fine.

So what do you think about the designated victim subplot that seems to be present in Homura?

Naturally I'm talking about Miyuri who has the most defloration rape scene's (4) in the game..

Personally I have a mixed opinion about this, since I think all the female's should get more or less equal treatment from the bad guys, on the other hand,targeting the "weak point" of the group is a pretty good strategy...

>>8645574

Thank you, this worked. I should have looked in those folders before looking for other solutions.

Hey guys, I have a question. I haven't finished downloading Homura yet, but I have a question: do you know if the Urara DLC is included?

>>8646844
Nope the new Urara DLC hasn't been fully leaked yet.

At the moment, it's only been revealed as a cg gallery rip, but the source of the rip hasn't been provided.

>>8646844
>>8646886
https://www.anime-sharing.com/threads/request-guilty-%E8%99%9C%E3%83%8E%E9%BA%97-%E3%80%8C%E6%B7%AB%E3%82%89%E3%81%AA%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8B%E9%97%98%E6%8A%80%E5%A0%B4%E3%83%91%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%80%8D-newly-released-dlc-june-2025-for-%E8%99%9C%E3%83%8E%E9%BA%97-%EF%BD%9E%E7%94%B7%E3%81%AE%E5%9C%92%E3%81%AB%E7%B4%9B%E3%82%8C%E3%81%93%E3%82%93%E3%81%A0%E4%B8%80%E8%BC%AA%E3%81%AE%E7%B4%85%E3%81%84%E8%8A%B1.1719173/
There is a link on anime-sharing.

So what do you think about Homura's plot so far?

Do you think that the Toriko series should continue in this direction or would you like Guilty to go back to how the previous entries where portrayed, or for Guilty to try something new.

Personally I think the introduction sequence is still a little too long, and I would like the H scene's to be spread out a little bit so that the female's could have some more time to do some "character development" after their rape occurred - although that might not agree with Guilty's "nukige" focus..

Guys, how do i translate file.ws2.src. Need some help here.

>>8647424
>Personally I think the introduction sequence is still a little too long
Shimai was peak in that regard, still it's short enough for me. But yeah, they could spread it out more.

I like that it's absolutely no brakes on the raep train fkn hardcore

>>8647503
> no brakes
Yeah, I haven't counted, but Homura definitely has one of the highest number of stick's, that each female is forced to deal with.

It would be even better if we had cg scene's of what kind of mess the female's are in, after the "session" is finished...

>>8647532
>It would be even better if we had cg scene's of what kind of mess the female's are in, after the "session" is finished...
Take any post-rape CG from Toriko Hime - that would give you the idea of what it would look like.

>>8647480
Use GARbro to extract Rio1.arc (PRio0 and 1 for dlc patches), put the ws2 files into a folder. Use Translator+ to load the folder into a project, batch translate with either free Google or whatever paid MTL.

Then export the translated ws2 into another folder, use GARbro to repack folder into arc format (right click create archive the ARC/WillV2).

I can help do Google MTL, but still another anon to help on repacking images since I'm having trouble getting this >>8631408 to work.

I know that it's fiction, but I have to say that, I'm still amazed that after, losing her chastity in both of her holes, being used by 21 guys (Suzune's case) and even losing consciousness at the end, the girl is still capable of dressing herself up and walking away without any apparent difficulties...

Not to mention the mental aspect of having her "first time" become a public event.

I know that it's supposed to show the strong willpower that the Toriko series girls have, but I think that the girl's still should show some crack's in the armor., after going through something like that.

I am not sure man... I simply used GARbro to extract Rio1 and repack back to .arc to test something out and the game crashes on me when it tries to access the file

>>8646886
>>8647063
Thanks so much for responding, guys. The download isn't finished yet, but it's around 80%.

I saw the images of the Urara DLC and didn't expect to see Tsubasa in her sister uniform. I was expecting her in her cheerleader uniform, but it's still okay.
By the way, does it look like it to me? Or is the sister uniform similar to Setsuna's?

>>8649044
I'd say, it's similar to Omega Setsuna nun outfit.

So would you like more bad guys to build themselves some nice illegal organization that seems to specialize in "tormenting" women?

Personally I like it, but I would probably enjoy it better if there were no "good endings", after all how a group of teenage girls could escape the clutches of an organization that has been doing their illegal operation for at least a few years.

>>8649325
>after all how a group of teenage girls could escape the clutches of an organization that has been doing their illegal operation for at least a few years.
You know the saying, even most fool-proof establishments may face few flaws once in a while, that illegal circle could actually operate for decades without a hitch, but a single slip-up from security, or maintenance crew may turn into their downfall, giving victims a chance to escape and reveal the organization. Although, it seems like every illegal establishment in Guilty universe is in close relations with law enforcement, so the victory would be short-lived, unless those girls don't pack their remaining stuff and leave the country for good.
Yeah, yeah, ending up on one of those Shizuku game type of cruise ships where they gonna go through entire gang rape process all over again. I mean, you are literally demanding for a "bad ending only" type of the game.

>>8648575
Works fine on my end. I don't mind sharing the MTL rio.arc file, but it is Google MTL. Other thing is wrap text issue, which I am currently having to work on manually (20% progress~).

I can skip it faster if the anons from Dec 2023 that worked on Kizuna/Shirabe are around to fix the line issue for Homura. I am clueless on editing lua even with the github documentation...

>>8647063
How do you download that thing with password faust?

>>8650158
Im one of the anons who "worked" on kizuna/shirabe 2 years ago. I had to pay sugoivntranslator to do it, nobody here was able to do it back then. There was another anon 1 year ago who was able to do urara manually and basically do the same thing sugoivntranslator did but I think he never actually finished urara.

>>8650175
nvm I think I figured out how to download it, hopefully, no viruses.

>>8650175
Btw we still have toriko no tsubasa untranslated, right?

>>8650175
>but I think he never actually finished urara
didn't SVN do Urara? I have a zip-file with all files from SVN (except Tsubasa DLC obviously)
AFAIK Kusari, Refrain, Kizuna (except Maika DLC), Shimai, Chikai, Urara (except Tsubasa DLC ) and Aina if are available from SVN (plus some older stuff)
Tsubasa Yuno DLC, Aina if and Nightmare Omega were done by an Anon
Tsubasa core game + if DLC + early patch is still untranslated

>>8650221
SVN did urarara, yes. But there was another anon who started working on it and I saw it only after I had paid svn. He was using googlev2 and said he'd finish it even despite SVN translation cause he was already halfway done. I forgot whether he actually finished or not.

Can you upload nightmare omega? Also, I dont see any new urarara dlcs here >>8647063 , just old 2 old ones.

>>8650235
This should contain everything you need. Once again thank you for comissioning so many titles and basically starting that integrated translation thing. I would enjoy those games only half as much with Textractor/Luna Translator
https://files.catbox.moe/ufbq6x.7z

>>8650246
Thanks, omega works. Yeah, I switched to lunatranslator + paid llm too. It even has the embedded option but it often doesn't replace the japanese lines for some reason + it has default horrible wrapping and sometimes half of the word is on one line and another half on another, so Im just playing the untranslated games with the regular texthook.

I'd keep paying SVN until he translated everything but I got mad that he kinda screwed me with the font in all titles, so we had to spend weeks here and contact other ppl from vndb to fix stuff, and they fixed it for free and refused money even when I offered them. I think shizuku is still not fully playable and just closes the game on some scenes. Wanna spartan definitely is unplayable with his translation cause of constant crashes. So that left a bad taste.

>>8650158
Urara - Tsubasa cosplay in Setsuna nun costume in Omega (damn that is a mouthful)

https://files.catbox.moe/z8v0q4.7z

It is the 55MB patch from the a-s link

>>8650246
Is Musaboru the maid or the Dash inn?

>>8650235
Urara - Tsubasa cosplay in Setsuna nun costume in Omega (damn that is a mouthful)

https://files.catbox.moe/z8v0q4.7z

It is the 55MB patch from the a-s link

>>8650246
Thanks very much, wow even Homura is included with the line fix. Is Musaboru the maid or the Dash inn?

>>8650261
Thanks but homura is giving an error, on some scenes. Its not fully translated yet, right?

>>8650261
Dash Inn

>>8650266
Every line is shown as translated in translator++. Is it the DLC? That hasn't worked since Tsubasa and the problem is most probably with with VNTranslationTools/Translator++ not setting an anchorpoint correctly. I might take a look at it this weekend, but can't promise. NMS should work fine

Okay maybe I will try again with garbro unpack and repack. Currently i am just using lunatranslator OCR hooked to gpt API. Pretty decent but i need to wait 0.5s per translation.

>>8650394

Im getting pic related on some saves. Here is the save file for the error if you need it https://www.mediafire.com/file/s29qpv68ouvl632/虜ノ焔+~淫欲の炎に満ちた地下闘技場~.rar/file


The entire scene will have this error and the game crashes, not just that specific line.

>>8650910
I can't replicate that error. If I use your safe, the text is in Japanese and the game freezes. This is something I have seen beforem the game seems to include 'some' text with the save and it's normal(?) behaviour. But if I jump far enough back for the game to actually load my files, I can view the scene no problem until next choice. Also I checked again in Translator++, there should be no untranslated Japanese text in the files I posted. Are those files from when the game was untranslated? Then that is your problem. Use the backlog to jump back until english text appears that should solve it. This is a fault with Guilty's engine, can't do anything against it.

TLDR: Jump back, click a few lines, if no english jump further back and click a few lines again until they are speaking english

>>8650926
Sorry, you are right, I was using the old save and thought there'd be no issues. With backlog it works now. Thanks a lot for translating it!


Is there a guide on how to replace the text in games or how did you learn it? Is it generally complicated? SVN never gives details on how exactly he is doing it, and Id want to translate tsubasa and maybe other guilty games.

Homura early buyer patch fixed MTL:
https://files.catbox.moe/er85ec.7z

If you care for an explanation:
Guilty has fixed pointers in all their files (which is fucking annoying). Afaik the early patch files from Tsubasa, Chikai, Urara and Homura are the only text files that have a check if NMS is on. That check doesn't get detected by VNTranslation tools and thus Translator++ since it just incorporates them. So if you want to avoid getting an error/freeze you need to check how many bytes the translated file has shifted and manually correct said pointer with a binary file editor of your choice. It's the last pointer in the file, just before the name of the following file...

>>8650948
No problem, I hope you'll enjoy it.

You need Garbro and Translator++, which are both free. Translator++ dev has some tutorials on his blog, but it's not much different from using Excel, so learning by doing should work fine.
>with Garbro extract the contents of Rio1, PRio0, PRio1 and PRio2 into an empty folder each
(make sure you don't shuffle folder structure later on at some point, this might fuck over Translator++)
>Open Translator++, select new file -> VN Translation Tools, pick folder
>Translate game with plugin of you choice
Google RPA is hidden behind a paywall/patreon iirc. It also has/had problems with shifting the translation a line or two for some reason. I used this for Omega since it was the best one available at that time imo. Translation quality might have somewhat deteriorated since then due to Google fuckery.
There's a bunch of online LLMs to choose from, but those are usually heavily censored and probably won't MTL gangrape lol
KoboldAI is free and local but requires a somewhat beefy machine. I used KoboldAI + lmg Anon's Gemma2 27B for the Dash inn (somewhat suboptimal) and KoboldAI + new Sugoi 32B model for Homura (probably the best available now maybe other than paid services imo) if this is the way you wanna go drop a line, I'll give you my LLM-MTL-Pipeline specifically made for Toriko-like games.
There's also the old Sugoi offline, but I wouldn't recommend since it's pretty bad in comparison
>after MTL, export into folder
>use Garbro to repack into .arc and replace the one in your game folder (make backup before)
Congrats, you translated your game
If you want a 4th line of text:
>export script.arc into folder using Garbro
>open 'LegacyGame_utf8.lua' using hex editor
>find hex value '32 13 12 00' right after 'g_fontSize2' and change to '32 13 0f 00'
>repack with garbro and replace in game folder

If you want to translate the NMS-Names that can be done in the same file, but is a real hassle due to lua syntax/pointers/whatever

Do I have the correct mtl patch for shizuku? Or is there an updated version with the proper embedding on words?

>>8651052
Thanks, looks kinda complicated lol, I'll try it and will let you know if any issues arise. Out of all LLMs currently I think xai/grok or gemini are the best in terms of accuracy and speed. Grok is also very cheap + no censorship, so thats what Im using.

What is you're opinion about some female's being spared and managing to keep their chastity in the last two Toriko titles?

For me it's a pretty good middle ground between the only the MC has lost her chasity plot that the older Toriko titles had and the everyone is used plot that Shimai or Tsubasa had.

Certainly, I wouldn't mind some variety and switching between those three options (only MC used, some used, all used) in the future Toriko titles, but will see what Guilty decides to do.

>>8651190
They could add "used goods" game option switch, similar to Bishop's "pubic hair on/off" switch: you tick it off to show CG with blood during girls defloration, or you tick it to "used goods" setting, thus activating blood-free CG and alternative dialogue, free of self-digging and explaining the pain and sensation of being deflowered.

>>8651211
Well, the Toriko series from the start had a major focus on corrupting pure inexperienced girls so I don't see Guilty changing that.

But I definitely wouldn't mind if Guilty decided to create another series where young adult non virgin / milf character's are the focus.

The issue is that I don't know how to make it more distinctive from the Toriko series... since just having young adult's / milf's in it compared to the mostly teenage cast that we get in the Toriko series is not enough imo.

I just got into Akina's route and I can't help but think about how bad she is at reading people.

I mean it's probably because of her simple personality, but still she pretty much willingly gave up her chastity without realizing the bad signs.

Sure she definitely regretted it, after the deed was done, but by then it was already too late...

>>8650246
Anyone getting these kind of errors on the bad end routes of Musaboru? The true end as well as the "everyone" bad end seems to be working, but the other routes seems to be getting errors. Already deleted the saves as well and started a new one and I still get the errors.

>>8652652
Forgot to say that Mari's bad end route crashes the game as well at some point.

So after martial arts what would you like the next year's Toriko game theme to be?

Personally I think it would be interesting if the female cast was put in some actual "physical imprisonment" situation.

For example, the MC goes to an all girl school in some remote location.

One day some bandits / terrorists on the run take over the school to use as their hiding place and all the teacher's and female student's into their hostages.

So naturally due to their nature as hostages they aren't allowed to leave the school grounds.

Their is a quiet teenage - young women among the bandits, who latter meets the MC who finds out that she isn't a bad person and in a attempt to find a way to escape the school, the MC tries to find out why the women is with the bandits.

Which is the step toward the doom of her chastity, since the MC finds out that the women is the bandits "stress relief toy" and unfortunately they got a little "bored" with her and decide to turn the MC into their next "toy".

>>8654179
I'd say the entire "terrorists take over educational establishment turning students into hostages" is a real thin ice topic, since it already had few real life precedents (apart from gang raping female hostages, OFC), and it may cause some uproar in certain countries, including USA.

>>8654179
I also want something that is similar to the Saint Dorei Gakuen series... which now that I think about has very similar plot points with the Toriko series.

>>8654269
The main difference is that Saint Dorei Gakuen series uses the male point of view

I think it would be difficult to incorporate this kind of plot from the victim's pov.

Although, there is a chance that the Toriko girls might be put in some similar situations, during the H scene's.

What is you're opinion on Toriko's "art evolution"?

Personally I got used to how the female's eye's are looking, but I definitely hope that Guilty changes that in the next entry.

A few of the cg's (like the orgy scene) could also be from a higher angle imo.

Still the overall product looks a little better imo compared to Chigiri and Urara so I hope that Guilty continues in that direction.

>>8655830
That's funny, first ppl were bashing Homura's art style, claiming it to be "AI" (you can scroll all the way to the top, and see for yourself), now people claim it to be superior to Urara and Chigiri, with no AI claims any longer.

>>8655830
>>8655922
Homura overall art is still to me a bad design compared to the recent past Guilty works. First time saying I don't have a favorite to pick among the five, and sadly won't be seeing much replay. I kind of like the plot, though it could had some fighting CGs like Nightmare, else it is just dialogue heavy since Yugami.

>>8656208
My thoughts exactly. I enjoyed the plot, but the sub-par character designs and art means that I won't be replaying this as much as I'd like.

>>8655830
I kinda came to not dislike it, like an acquired taste, but I like it less than Chikai/Urara/Maverick, and a lot less than Nightmare/Shimai/Tsubasa. For me the plot mostly carries this VN

>>8655922
wasn't the AI claim directed towards BG art / the Maid game release art?

Would you like the Toriko series to undergo some reset / major change to it's plot development formula?

After all, while there are some differences due to the setting, the formula of the Toriko series stays more or less the same for the recent titles.

We get:

1.) Introductions to the female cast
2.) Introduction to the bad guys (usually in the form of an H scene)
3.) The MC get's gangraped and losses her innocence.
4.) Sometimes it happens before the MC gets used but we get route choices for the other female's
5.) Route choice that decides whether we get the bad ending for the MC or continue to the good ending
6.) Route choice that decides whetever we get the bad ending for everyone ( rape orgy defloration in most cases) or the good ending

Naturally there is still some variation in the H scene's and the order, but from what I analyzed the development formula that I mentioned above is more or less kept the same for recent Toriko titles.

Well it's not like there is anything wrong with continuing doing something that works, but it sometimes makes things a little too predictable.

>>8652652
For whatever reason Translator++ refuses to batch export that game, so like half the files were missing...
This should fix it:
https://files.catbox.moe/zkw3gd.7z

Do you think that Guilty is going to release another game at the end of the year?

Personally I think the chance is high - either another Nightmare project with the girls introduced in Maverick or maybe another Toriko IF game?

>>8661337
Honestly, IDGAF about any new titles or ideas, all I need - is motion version of Omega.

>>8662473
Then you are going to have to wait longer, since I don't except the Motion version of Omega to be released anytime soon.

Considering that Omega has a similar amount of cg's as the Toriko series, I don't see the Motion version being released until at least 1.5 - 2 year's pass since the original release date.

What do you think about scenario's where the female's are able to outwit the bad guys and keep their chastity?

It would definitely go against Guilty's nukige philosophy, but I think reading a story where a group of teenager's managed to outwit a group of "experienced adult men" could be interesting.

What's left to look forward to for Guilty this year?

>>8665323
Either a continuation of the Maverick plot or another Toriko IF game is most likely imo.

>>8659368
In scenes page 2, far right bottom corner, there is a scene that instacrashes if you select it.

What is you're opinion on the outfits that we got in the recent Guilty titles?

Or would you like more scenes where the girl is fully naked?

Personally I think the battle outfit's from Homura where a mixed bag to me - due to the fact that I thought they would be used more often in the girl's routes.

>>8666815
Semi-dressed/torn clothes - victim still has some resilience in her.
Fully naked - victim has accepted her fate/was completely broken and turned into living onahole.
Also, wearing skimpy or fetish-flavored clothes, like sling, or latex suits may also apply to victim being turned into obedient slave, following every order from her tormentors.
It's really that simple, IMO, now pick your poison.

>>8659368
Sorry for the late reply and thanks for that patch.