Thread 8661632

Discuss all forms of NTS-themed images, manga, anime, doujinshi, visual novels, games, etc EXCEPT:
-Content/Discussions about IRL cuckolding / Larping. This thread is only intended for 2D NTS.
-Content/Discussions about straight NTR or NTS --> NTR. (This belongs in the NTR thread)
NTS with NTR elements is okay as long as it stays NTS.

Also: long discussions are okay but make sure your post has an NTS-related image.

NTS works/illustrations:
- hhttps://niyaniya.moe/?s=tag:^netorase$ (check mirrors if link is down)
- https://hentainexus.com/?q=tag:netorase
- https://exhentai.org/tag/female:netorase
- https://exhentai.org/?f_search=female%3Anetorare%24+female%3Aswinging%24 (replace x with minus if you're a newfag)
- https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%81%9B

Popular NTS Artists: https://pastebin.com/KhVhhGMK
NTS Games: https://pastebin.com/Pw97kzWb
More NTS Games: https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/
https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-content-master-list.211290/
NTS Twine Novels: https://pastebin.com/gY3SPHbQ

Source: https://exhentai.org/g/3442003/0871d9412e/
Previous Thread: >>8652984

>>8661632 (OP)
Looks good, translation when?

Time for some gacha NTS!

>>8661804
>>8661805
my favorite

>>8661807
Gacha waifus are the hottest when cucking you!

>>8661808
fuck, lupa's such a good one, thought she'd get a lot less compared to other gacha games

>>8661804
>>8661805
Are you the original gen maker for these? Looks really similar to the stuff I've seen in bwg in trash.

>>8661813
the filename should give you the link to the pixiv where it's from.
That genner gens a lot of stuff people might post at bwg, so would not be surprising to see it there as well.

>>8661817
Oh wait yeah I'm dumb, thanks for pointing it out.

>>8661811
Wuwa is not as popular as the hoyo games unfortunately

>>8661833
True, kinda conflicted since more popuality would mean more artwork, but more shitposting and cuckart with it. Not really excited to see that, but oh well

>>8661837
What's the context behind that pic? NTS context. Since Changli is just fapping to Rover.

>>8661842
not an nts pic, just wanted to post wuwa and thought the artstyle was really hot

>>8661843
I wanna suck on Changlis fat tits after the bull abused them

>>8661847
same, her teasing attitude and nts would drive me crazy for her. i'd alternative between rough bed breaking reclamation sex and lovey dovey hand holding sex with her

>>8661848
Based. All the while you hear her screaming I love you and squirting like a fountain as the bull violently breeds her in the video...

>>8661872
fuck, i'd explode so hard for her right there and then

>>8661632 (OP)
I saw this posted to Exhentai but the uploader is a chink who posted a sample of it

Do any of you buy cuck porn?

>>8661888
Ehhh, I commission my own. I have a private artist basically.

>>8661889
Who is it?

>>8661891
Not him, but I've gotten requests from https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/111812593

Mostly does nts

>>8661888
tried to comm daruko once but they ghosted me...

I have been lurking for a few years and i realized a lot of anon that share their wives or gfs here are all asian. I mean this thread doesn't allow 3D stuffs but not even a single white cuck bf or husband here, it's kind of weird. Just curious tho

>>8661912
how can you tell its majority Asian?

Do NTS AI waifus have potential?

>>8661913
They all said they were asian, didn't they? Or at least the wife was asian. There are 5 or 6 cuckanon in this thread that used to share their wife or gf but i only remember 3 girls. One chubby milf (my favorite), one petite girl(that cuckanon didn't post much of them anymore after her pregnancy) and one exhibitionist girl with raceplay bodywriting(this girl was also lurking in this thread, she's ugly tho)

>>8661983
oh didn't know they did it in real life, kinda neat

>>8661988
>>8661989
source? Is it NTR??

>>8662043
https://niyaniya.moe/g/13002/d03f5f79222e

>>8661923
I mean don't people already do nts with chatbots?

>>8662019
The cuckanon with petite wife even posted real-time at the hotel, it was so fucking hot. Too bad their bulls were just overweight skinny-fat asian guys

>>8662070
at least they end up together in the end. Her rejecting him was a nice touch, even though they both go choose together to go back to him.

>>8661983
I only remember the last 2 ones. Do you have the chubby milf one saved? I'm curious

Nebel is still the undisputed kamige of the genre and nothing comes to close to Kana as NTRSQueen.

The game has a work phase where it depends on the player's performance how aroused and what opportunities the bull gets to molest Kana. Monitoring only her heartbeat is a subtle and genius way of creating tension. Later on it's even possible to use spy cameras of different quality.

Then there is an afternoon phase in a large town with tons of activities, where Kana has her own varying schedule. Moving around the town takes time and the player has stuff to do too, so the only way to monitor Kana is by calling her on the phone. The phone is not always reliable and you have to know her schedule to properly interpret the clues.
The bull has blackmail on Kana and there is a chance he will be trying to seduce her depending his arousal and schedule. If you fail to show up in time to prevent the event she will get molested.

During the act there is both visual and audio indication that someone is having sex at the place. The player can even peep at times, but never clearly enough to tell the identity of the girl, never completely breaking the suspension of disbelief that it could be someone else. After the act there could be stains and condoms left over at the place indicating what happened. When you find Kana afterwards and ask about it, she will be flustered and tries to evade the question. Sometimes she will be unavailable for the rest of the night and you might not even be able to meet up with her before work and see her flustered expression over disappearing for the night. Running around frantically only to find out she has been being fucked for hours with no way of reaching her until tomorrow is incredibly hot.

The bull is pretty decent with his own personality and responsibilities as your boss. Most importantly, he is not an ugly bastard but a good looking playboy, whom you can believe girls could fall for and expect to be good in the bed. He is plenty mean the way girls find it attractive, but also knows how to treat a girl well if he wants to.

Kana is loveable and there are several events of doing normal couples stuff, but as she gets corrupted her thoughts warp and she starts rethinking her relationship with you. She even catches on that you're not protecting her and even enjoy seeing her being taken by someone else, while she is trying her best to endure it and keep on a facade.
She is her own personality, with her own schedule and thoughts that can slowly change depending on the player, which is unparalleled in these kind of games. Her art is very good and wears several cute outfits in the game as well.

The world feels alive and responsive, with bystanders commenting about Kana's whereabouts and clues on what's going on. You can even call Kana to go on a date and she will answer depending on her schedule and plans for the day.
There is an ever present time and performance pressure, as it's not obvious from the start how to best do the work on the different maps, or what's Kana doing during the afternoon. Keeping the player on its toes is very difficult, but this game manages to do it.

The game perfectly blends the elements of both netorare and netorase. You're not actively whoring your girl out, she has her own will and personality. The most you can do is prevent being cucked by paying attention to her and putting in the effort of finding her in time. There are different endings depending on how corrupted Kana gets and in parallel, how depraved the player was willing to go.
Nebel perfected the gameplay loop and mechanics for NTRS games and I've yet to see one come close, let alone emulate or surpass it.

>>8662071
Yes and I like it a lot. The whole Ani thing only made normies realize people like to get horny with chatbots since Grok (unlike c.ai) isn't actively trying to stamp out anything remotely sexual (even if it's still pretty vanilla)

>>8662079
Not the anon you are replying to but i think it was this girl https://files.catbox.moe/ep94b0.jpeg

>>8662205
Nice tits, but that's about it. Also, cute pic. Cuck impregnation is based.

>>8662043
no. its just BDSM and NTS.

both boyfriend and girlfriend are very happy being this dude's slave in the end and its completely willing.

>>8661989
one of the best NTS stories imo. We still need a translation for the fanbox epilogue tho.

>>8661912
>>8661983
Damn it, i'm also an asian cuckanon with an asian wife, is this some kind of stereotypes?
Just wanna show off my wife's tattoo a little bit, she enjoyed all kinds of big dicks, but she knows how much i love spade tattoo
https://files.catbox.moe/0egjaw.jpeg

>>8661983
Maybe the stereotype is from asian women? My gf is asian but I am a white cuck

>>8662070
Damn I love the artwork and how submissive the cuck is

>>8662304
Maybe you are right, i don't know enough about asian chicks to judge

>>8662282
Have you taken her after bull dumps it all inside?

>>8662364
https://files.catbox.moe/1346li.jpeg
I love reclaiming my slutty wife, always finish inside her after she had her fun with other guy. Sometime if she was tired, i prefer cuddling time

>>8662383
Any feet pics?

>>8662394
no, i prefer her with heels on

>>8662383
Did you find out about netorase first, and then becoming an actual cuck irl, or is it the other way around?
I've been into NTS for quite a while now but I can't imagine actually doing cuckolding with my girlfriend, so I'm curious

>>8662420
>I've been into NTS for quite a while now but I can't imagine actually doing cuckolding with my girlfriend, so I'm curious
Nta but I was once like that. Fast forward some months and I'm actually planning to ask her to fuck another guy

>>8662253
>We still need a translation for the fanbox epilogue tho.
oh great so it can still end in the typical jap NTR rugpull

>>8662420
I find out about nts first and enjoy hardcore stuff, but i don't like maso stuff irl, too scare of her actually leaving me.My wife loves the spade tatto despite loving all big cocks equally, it suit her well

>>8662701
https://files.catbox.moe/y8v34p.jpeg
I love seeing her like this, what a cute slut

>>8662703
She has a really nice, shapely butt! I love that tattoo placement as well. Did you experiment beforehand with temporary ones in other places?
>>8661983
I remember the guy with the pregnant lady. I hope they are both well!

>>8662825
>Did you experiment beforehand with temporary ones in other places?
Yes, we tried it on various place. First it was right above her pussy, then her tits, her left butt cheek,... but we both decided that one on her waist would suit her well since we love fucking in doggy style

>>8662914
Your wife really does have a nice figure. I agree with you about heels > feet too. They really enhance legs. The taller, the better in my opinion

>>8663097
This image series is a guilty pleasure of mine. Art's really nice, and I like grosser fetishes that this series touches on.

The only downsides is that it's very clearly going to be NTS to NTR, and not just his wife, but other females in his life as well. Frustrating, but it's like picking toppings you don't like off a burger. I can eat it, but it's not a go-to and it will still have that aftertaste.

>>8662701
sauce? google and yandex return nothing

When will the actual cucks (stagfags/hotwifefags) go away?
You guys should've realized by now that you should make your own thread.

>>8663100
It's at the point where it's explicitly NTR, since one of the afterwords by the artist states that wife already doesn't love her husband anymore.

>>8663278
It really does feel like Japanese mangaka are often incapable of writing NTS without ultimately pushing it to be NTR in the end.

Like, rule breaking, boundary pushing, humilation, and even subtle shifting of allegiances are all part of the genre, but they always want that extra push to show how "corrupted" the heroine has become by the pleasure. Exhausting.

>>8663295
this, also extends to voice works. found very few pure nts voice works that don't go straight to nts to ntr

For some reason, Ani really activates my NTS almonds

>>8663313
I dont care how sexy they made grok, I am not giving that faggot elon any money

>>8662914
our wife looks so hot anon

>>8663261
They probably don't know cuckold thread on >>>/gif/ is a thing

>>8662129
best ways to do it with? interested in trying it out.

>>8663443
god, I'd love to watch Mika get mating pressed while she held my hand and said she was a naughty student

>>8663261
>Completely unprompted stag finger pointing.

I don't dislike the idea though. Kinda tired of seeing all the maso mental illness content on here.

>>8663505
same, maybe even jerking me off while i watch her

>>8663261
what's a stag? and can't hotwife be considered nts stuff? unless im getting that definition wrong

>>8663527
It is not NTS, just as cuckolding is not NTR, even though they seem similar.
A 'stag' is a man who lends his wife, or 'hotwife,' to someone else.
>what's the difference with cuck
They think they're different.

>>8663531
>A 'stag' is a man who lends his wife, or 'hotwife,' to someone else.
is this meant to be like casual, non-emotional lending? like a "yeah you can borrow her tomorrow", and then you and your wife don't talk about it?

>>8663533
>meant to be like casual, non-emotional lending
Some, yes.
Though, most of them behave exactly like cucks, wanting to be in the room and watch.
Stags have 'confidence' that their wives wouldn't leave them.

>>8663540
I loved the girl of the left, I wish she was the gf instead.

>>8663527
there's like one guy with an abuse fetish who gets really mad at the idea of the boyfriend having any presence or agency in NTS stories and calls it "stag." He's gone on record saying he doesn't think that anything other than abuse constitutes NTS and that NTS is only NTS if it's pussyfree.

>>8663313
if only she didnt cost 30 usd / 40 eurobucks for stutterless audio, it's good at it

Porn that is called NTR in a vanilla thread is called vanilla in a NTS thread and porn that is called NTR in a NTS thread is called NTS in a NTR thread. Is there a clear cut definition of what is and isn't NTS?

>>8663661
NTS is when a girl sleeps with other guys because her partner gets off to it.

If she breaks up with her partner then that's NTR.

>>8663671
>NTS is when a girl sleeps with other guys because her partner gets off to it.
>If she breaks up with her partner then that's NTR.

THIS.
BRILLIANT and Simple.

personally, I really like hardcore nts (not the gay shit tho). where the wife pushes the boundaries to constantly make you feel on edge. of course she'd love being fucked but also gets a lot of pleasure from watching you squirm during the reporting sex

>>8663661
From what I see here, NTS is when the girl is fucking other people because the boyfriend asks her to and gets off to it.
That's why a lot of people say it's NTR when a girl fucks someone without the boyfriend knows about it beforehand, even though the dude enjoys it. Personally I think it still counts as NTS

>>8663671
It really is this simple. There's just like, an insane amount of gray area that the fetish exists in where some people like some things, and other people don't.
>How much humiliation is too much
>Should there be reclaiming/reconciliation/vanilla moments and or sex scenes
>Rule breaking to X extent
>How much prioriety/time the bull is alloted
>The female's emotional alliegence
>Impregnation rights
>Narrative POV
>Emotional disposition of cuck/heroine/bull
>Final pages
All these factors massively influence the nature of a NTS doujin, and what might work for some really doesn't work for others.

>>8663730
I'd say it counts as both, riding the line between both genres. What decides if it truly becomes NTR though is if the heroine is like, actually stolen away by the end. That's the key factor in even basic NTR.

Regardless, I get why some people wouldn't love that set-up.

>>8663718
hell yeah
>>8663671
>>8663737
non retarded takes itt? I thought I will never see the day

>>8663737
Yeah good to point this out. There's just a lot of variance, so fitting everything under one umbrella can lead to a lot of conflict, especially when the two major camps of dom and maso NTS are so different.

I WANNA GET KEKED BY JANE DOE RIGHT MEOW AIIIEÈEEEEEEE

>>8663718
same, feel like it's the perfect balance of not being too mild / boring of vanilla nts and not too extreme of actual ntr

Why are most games AI slop now.

Anyone have a decent game? Idc if it’s western or jap

>>8663661
isn't this ntr cause of the ending?

>NTS thread.
>Is actually a BBC thread.
So tiresome.

>>8664262
yep, even all the blacked threads at trash seem to be ntr over nts

>>8664256
because most devs aren't artists and artists are expensive. What a stupid question.

>>8664263
Blacked NTS is faggot shit, like I'm not even joking.

>>8664256
Would you rather play a game with AI or koikatsu/COM3D renders for the art?

>>8664262
>>NTS thread.
>>Is actually a BBC thread.
>>8664464
>Blacked NTS is faggot shit, like I'm not even joking.

THIS... VERY small number of hyperactive posters that literally live to post BBC... they probably spend more than half their pay and time just to post more of this crap.

Is their anyway we can make a separate BBC thread and BAN BBC on other threads?

NTR and NTS ARE NOT BBC !

Japaneses do NOT view BBC like Europeans or Americans.

>>8663963
Still waiting for that anon to share the jane doe NTS comic he commissioned. It sounds kino

>>8664464
is it cause how they focus more on the color of the dick than the girl?

>>8664262
You can always leave and go to the yaoi thread at /d/ for your white cock fetish.

>>8664468
If you want, I can start posting Japanese BBC NTS to prove you wrong

>>8664531
nta but im interested

>>8664531
>>8664534
>>8664540
stagfags are all EOPs that don't know what netorase means. They go into psychosis the minute any type of humiliation is involved in a single panel.

>>8664541
>the more buzzwords I use, the more based I'll sound!
It's kinda grim that you'll never receive the validation here you're looking for

>>8664544
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold#Horns_and_the_rut

>>8664531
>>8664534
>>8664552
>>8664559
>>8664560
reports are the fucking best

>>8664562
True!

>>8664559
>>8664560
hopefully he does more nts works, i know this was his most recent and first one, but the other AL ones are just ntr

>>8663490
Most people use sillytavern as a frontend and whatever free/affordable service for the actual AI model. Openrouter has most major models available for a cost while google's Gemini Pro is the best free model (assuming you have a bunch of burner google accounts) I'm aware of. Grab a jailbreak from one of the /aicg/ threads elsewhere and you can start ERPing with your waifu chatbots. There are sites hosting chatbots or character cards (definitions of the character basically) but nowadays models are powerful enough so you can basically just describe your waifu in plain text and get decent results.

>>8663490
just jailbreak chatgpt. best cooms of my life

>>8664466
Koikatsu. AI feels so poisoned to me. I just get the sense that the dev doesn't give a shit about art, in which case, I don't trust that the writing will be any good either, and I dismiss games instantaneously based on having AI art nowadays. Koikatsu doesn't feel disingenuous in the same way, also leaves it open for hiring an artist later and getting real art, and I can totally get off if the writing is good.

Grokette NTS gf edging you while teasing you for being a cuck for a clanker? aye or naye?

>>8664466
>>8664778
I don't think I've seen any decent koikatsu NTS game before, while AI has nyatorase.
Though I think there are 2 anons here that were making a game if I remember correctly

>>8664923
theres a relatively new one called ""I Fell in Love with the Demon Queen... But Now I have to Share Her??!" that at least looks good and higher effort altough i'm waiting for it to get some updates before playing.

>>8664922
Just what we need, more meme jesters.

What's the verdict on the new 54 page Poriuretan NTS? Still ongoing but haven't heard a peep from /nts/.

>>8664982
Good until it was uploaded by a chink

Consider making a ai nts game, despite a flood of them the level of ai art is very low. most games still seem to pull in a couple of hundred dollars a month with some approaching 10k a month, there's good opportunities for a quality sloppa game

>>8665118
Nyatorase is like the only one with actual effort put into the artwork the rest is all the same generic ai sloppa style

>>8665118
To be honest, the writing is more important than the art.

>>8665128
yet hardly anyone would read text only stories.

>>8665130
Many do

>>8665130
False dichotomy

even if you're only into nts and not ntr, do you still call yourselves a cuck?

https://exhentai.org/g/3307420/e674529b18/

any experts on japanese culture?

why was the mom rejoiced upon learning her son is an incest cuck and then immediately showed remorse when he saw her having sex with the gang member, and why did her former husband file for divorce but pay her to watch her have sex with the gang member?

yes, it is.

>>8664927
The premise sounds pretty interesting but I'm not a fan of the character design unfortunately. Will still try it out later though

>>8665118
If you're making a porn game just to make a few bucks, especially in a niche fetish like this, you're doing it for the wrong reason

>>8665337
holy fuck...

>>8665337
nagatoro hotwife...

How do you guys feel about the sex between the girl and the bull? Should it be better / worse than the cuck? Or is it something else you have in mind for it?

>>8665377
Doesn't really matter as long she is enjoying it and no it doesn't necessarily mean the bull is better.

>>8665377
Usually I like it when the bull is way better, but the girl having sex with a total loser can be fun too
>pic rel. is the girlfriend having sex with the lame otaku friend

>>8661912
I share my wife and we're white. We're about to get a Bowser version of the Spade tattoo so that she can flaunt

>>8665126
Moonripple Lake and Blurring the Walls (even if milking) all clearly have more effort in than Nyatorase

>>8665481
both of those have ugly as fuck art

>>8661632 (OP)
I look like this

>>8665130
Retard

>>8665130
I'm guessing you weren't here when anons in this thread made twine novels

>>8665377
IMO it shouldn't be about whether it's better or worse, but the fact that it's different. Fucking a guy that's not hubbie comes with all of these complicated feelings, and that's what makes it juicy. The trope of her being denying she would enjoy sex with another man, and then subsequently enjoying it, makes for hot scenes.

>>8665502
i voted for this

New netorase with a very thick wife!

Me on the left

>>8655724
Are you still interested?

>>8665739
>Hi anon! I will now commence the mating process with the ultra virile african male you insisted I partner with. please let me know how the experience is while we commence our reproductive intercourse!

>>8665739
>>8665909
having my ai waifu do nts for me is kinda tempting...

>>8665912
doesn't work too well from my experience

>>8665928
some guy managed to do it. on /trash/ but I think it's too extreme to post here

>>8665928
It all depends on how much effort you're willing to put into it.

>>8665938
sure, you can make ai do whatever if you hold its hand hard enough, but I've seen them breaking out of it for some reason often enough, and holding their hand even harder can be annoying.

This fetish would be unironically dead without black cocks

>>8665962
Maybe it would be for the best, the masks will finally fall and the BBC suckers will finally stop pretending NTS is all about them.

>>8665377
The latter or as best as you.

>>8665962
Fuck you and your shitty definition of NTS.

Alright, here is some bullshit i made. I'm learing to use koikatsu, so i went and did a little project. Nothing too fancy, there are a lot of continuity erros and some spelling mistakes i was too lazy to go fix. Let me know what you guys think. Also, since i don’t really know how this works: all my characters are of legal age, and by reading the story, you confirm that you are of legal age as well.

https://litter.catbox.moe/y61qpjdeql4zu7a8.zip

>>8665974
There's no mask. BBC is great because:
- it provides fantastic sex for the wife
- 0 chances of her falling in love with it
- skin contrast makes it hotter
Only NTR cuckolds disagree.
>>8665994
Didn't talk about the definition, stop crying cuck

everyone here obsessed with niggers god damn. why not just make a blacked thread?

>>8666143
They wouldn't be allowed here. i already suspect they are pretty racist saying things like my wife wouldn't fall for it because it's a black dude. It's also reductive to think about another person as a sexual item, so yeah.

>>8666146
so you take over other threads instead, got it. fuck /h/ then lmao

>>8666143
It seems ridiculous to obsess over the color of the dick when that has nothing to do with what this thread is about, while also not posting anything that you would personally want to see. You could just post shit you like.

>>8666161
>one guy constantly talking about how amazing BBC is and how it's the only true NTS
>"hey can we talk about NTS and not black dicks"
>"wow why are you so obsessed with black dicks?"

>>8666163
You can simply ignore the idiot bait posters, I don't know what else to tell you. Everyone ignored the Nebel copypasta in this very thread, might be the first time ever. This thread is capable of learning. The jump from "everyone here" to "one guy constantly" was a very subtle shift for one reply, though.

>>8666161
Already done and off putted to contribute nowadays, i already did my part when the thread wasn't complete shit and at this point it would be a drop in the ocean from all the re-posting of old shit and other AI generated content. Probably a matter of time before i gtfo entirely imo

>>8666169
the black dick guy has always been one guy because he endlessly parrots this >>8666081 "only black cock is real NTS" and >>8664527 "everybody who doesn't like black dicks is gay"

You can see this pattern through all other threads.

Anyone up for a quick request? No guarantees but I'll try to have something by tonight

>>8666225
st. louis (luxurious wheels) from azur lane doing uhhh whatever NTS pose you can think of idk

>>8666225
Can you make this pic:
>>8582800
But with Ceasar from ZZZ

>>8666225
nerdy girl with phone showing her sex video

>>8666225
size comparison report sph brown girl

>>8666225
What about Kanata cucking Towa. Based on the classic /vt/ fic from way back.

>>8666301
nta but fuck this is hot. st louis and botes in general is just perfect for nts

>>8661804
>>8661805
This one but with his sister

>>8666301
BASED

>Noooo the black dick makes me feel insecure :(
Isn't that literally the point of NTS? what's your problem cucks?
>No AVIF
This website is a fucking joke

>>8664923
Is >>8666040 one of the anon you're talking about?

>>8666318
why not do it on the trash board too

>>8666318
NTS is about letting your girl satisfy your perversion and be all lovey dovey with extra steps. Being obsessed with niggers is a separate thing entirely no matter how much people want to tie the two together. It's not about feeling insecure it's about trusting your girl enough to be pervert alongside you and still come back. Just say you have a nigger fetish and leave it at that.

>>8666225
>>8666301
Love your style. The figures are weighty and expressive, while also being sketch-y in a way that leaves more of a strong impression rather than simply feeling unfinished. Also your scene choices are top-tier.

>>8666332
It's funny how cuckolds like you say the guys into bbc are racists and yet you keep saying nigger as if you're giving candy to kids! BBC NTS posting will continue to get posted here, and you can either choose to:
A. Cry like a true cuckold while we laugh at you
B. Ignore and post what you like instead
C. Leave the thread. You won't be missed.
Either way I won, you lost bigly!

>>8666225
Hayase Nagatoro with a smug face and a nice baby bump addressing you/the viewer/Senpai, gently teasing and lovingly bullying you about getting to raise someone else's kid as a result of your fetish for sharing her.

>>8666225
Marin Kitagawa bouncing on BBC while kissing the cuckold

>>8666443
I never called you racist, don't put words in my mouth. I was correcting your incorrect definition of NTS and I genuinely don't give a shit about the bull because NTS isn't about the him it's about the couple. Anyway guess I lost my internet argument guess I'll move on with my life.

>>8666444
I fucking love delayed consensual brood parasitism

>>8666452
>you said a definition!!!!!
I guess the voices in your head did, yes.

>>8666040
Emojis kill it for me, sorry. Instead of a classy lady, all I see now is a braindead zoomer.

>>8666456
>>8666458
>>8666460
>>8666470
Patrician taste, anon.

>>8666475
>the girl wants to carry the bull's child and manipulates the cuck into liking it too
Nice ntr

>>8666475
yeah, it's nice to see this niche picking up steam
>>8666477
consensual cheating is hardcore netorase

>>8666483
one more takurann piece since azur lane is my sweet spot

>>8666477
What's the difference between "manipulates the cuck into liking it too" and "helps the cuck discover a new side of himself by exploring his fetish"?

>>8666483
>>8666486
>>8666487
love azur lane for nts stuff, so good.
but what's the difference between vanilla and hardcore nts

>>8666489
vanilla is lots of reclaiming sex, consent being verbalized every time, and strict rules/limits to sex with other men. hardcore nts is basically consensual cheating, breaking/bending of rules, and toeing the line with ntr. bull impregnation usually being a landmark sign of hardcore. terasu mc's >>8666318 doujin pretty much covers all of these aspects pretty well if you're curious to what exactly it looks like

>>8666498
what about going behind the mc's back to have sex with the bull without mc's knowledge? or if she lets the bull do it raw first time, lies to the mc that he was the first one to do it instead though? still hardcore nts cause of the toeing the line with ntr?

>>8666502
the tipping point for nts to ntr is whether or not the wife/girlfriend still loves her partner romantically and if the cheating is consented to (though he may not have full knowledge) by the husband. lots of people in this thread might disagree but that's how I see it

>>8666509
extra adult takagi

>>8666509
>though he may not have full knowledge
how would this pleasure / help the mc then?

>>8666488
The difference is the girl WANTING it. She wants to cheat, carry the bull's child, initiate distancing between herself and the cuck and deepening the bond with the bull. Bull impreg is the first step to hardcore NTR.

>>8666321
I'm not making a game, I don't know any coding. Maybe if renpy is as easy as people say.

I liked the art and the premise of this, however there is too many low impact blowjob panels. The story could have been much better with more of a focus on detailed sex instead of 100 different angles of blowjobs. Also, this is just netori slop, disguised as netorase. What the fuck were they thinking by tagging this as netorase.

>>8666502
Vanilla tends to be very strict with consent. If it wasn't explicitly agreed upon or it's well known the husband wants something, then it's breaking consent and no longer counts as NTS. Maso cucks have a much more lax definition of consent and *want* the girl to go behind their back and cheat, more closely mimicking NTR. In vanilla, the girl would never lie to do it just for herself, only to make hubby happy.

The wife and bulls are my property and slaves in NTS. They'll do what I want, when I want. Breaking rules means I'll give them a painful death.

>>8666528
This desu. Bull impreg can only be NTS if at a minimum the girl is 100% sure that it's what the cuck wants and she's doing it 100% for him. If she just does it out of her own desire to have a kid with the bull, it's NTR and trash. Bull impreg for any other reason than the cuck's pleasure = NTR.

Any long series or pornhwa recs!

>>8667072
Soeun

>>8666483
gacha sharing/NTS is my favorite content great stuff

>>8667422
same. too bad it's rare compared to ntr

>>8667422
Borrowing/lending your unit for your club/friend list works so well for a netorase scenario, I'm surprised not a lot of people make hentai based on that

>young guy in university meets cute demure girl
>starts going out with her, taking it slow
>little does he know that while he studies hard she’s getting dressed up and railed by a much older man
>except that the man is the boy. The boy is destined to invent time travel in a decade or so, a few years after he marries the girl
>older version gets off on going back to enjoy his wife, sleeping with her in her youth that he didn’t get to enjoy when he was young
>girl is 100% aware, actually fell for the older version and is excited to see her official boyfriend grow into the charming older man she loves
>young version is genuinely oblivious
As the premier experts in the field, would this be NTR or NTS?

>>8667472
If it's from the perspective of young MC, it's NTR. If it's from the perspective of old MC, it's NTI. There is no possible scenario where this is NTS.

>>8667472
>man has sex with his wife
Vanilla as fuck.

>>8667494
The NTR thread is the other way

why is this thread filled with blacks

>>8667473
>NTI
Is this what the abbreviation of Netori is?

>>8667513
Ask your mom, she's bouncing on them rn

>>8667513
how many times are you going to ask this

>>8667466
Too many NTR freaks, they always scream NTR bait whenever a gacha girl is shown

>>8667472
This is strangely wholesome but not NTS by any definition. It sounds like she's only ever fucking one person at a time and it's always mutually consensual. The young version is getting NTR'd

>>8667513
Idk but it's getting quite tiresome coming back here after a few days to nothing but black cocks and AIslop

Weekly reminder that there's a thread for 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ (ie. bokudaka) on Shiravune's suggestion channel. It's a bit buried now cause no one's been upvoting it. They've started licensing ANIM VNs recently, if we made some buzz it could legit get officially translated.

>>8668341
God that's so fucking sexy. I'd be FEASTING on her whore body for hours after her cheating sesh

>>8663963
This pic is so fucked up lmao.

>>8661632 (OP)
Is it me or is Marina 1 the hottest? Obviously the ex was shit, but there’s something missing from the JAV guy compared to the college loser. Which is weird because your wife doing it with a sex beast + filming a private porno with him should be a lot more exciting of a scenario. But in 1 Marina already got pumped raw multiple times, did crazy dirty talk, lied to Kenji’s face and got fucked in positions and ways that would make you faint in a pool of cum IRL.

>>8668638
Personally 2 is the hottest. The NTS where she dotes on a younger immature man is just not very hot to me. I want her to feel out of her comfort zone a bit, and the former porn actor delivered that better. Plus he's more mature and professional. Young guys tend to get attached and try to hide stuff from the husband - I forget if this dude does that specifically, but it's just another reason that archetype tends to be a turn off for me.

>>8668638
>>8668817
link to it?

>>8668905
https://vndb.org/v12949
https://vndb.org/v15496

>>8668638
Never played 3, but Marina 2 was infinitely better than the first one for me because 90% of the NTS sex wasn't locked behind Marina's POV, FMC NTS just doesn't do it for me.

>>8668817
It's too bad the game doesn't run as well as Marina 1. It's the only reason why I don't come back to it more often. I remember the guy who did the EN fan-translations for the series said that Marina 2's engine was giving him problems and it shows. I also feel that Marina's dialogue, especially her internal dialogue, is much better in 1 than 2. The sex scenes and artwork in 2 is much better though.

>I forget if this dude does that specifically
He does. It's why they shift away from Hiroto and find the porn star at the start of 2 because he's not keeping up with his studies. There's also his side story in 2 where he's begging the Kenji to let him fuck Marina again, only for Marina to not fuck him but also tell him about how mind-blowing the sex with 2's bull is.
It's clear they like Hiroto x Marina since they made two audio eroge that's just the two of them fucking without Kenji knowing. They even bring him back at the beginning of 3 since Kenji wants Marina to start cheating in a more romantic sense in this game. [spoiler] I like 3 but fuck Kenji is fucking retarded

>>8666509
A lot of nts fans get triggered when the girl does anything that's not 100% agreed and signed by the mc
pic related

>>8669126
Correct but I think the issue is that the girl doing something not agreed to is, actually, NTR. In the most technical terms NTS is
>>8663671
So if she does something not agreed and signed upon by the MC, that runs the risk of being non-consensual.

Think of it this way: if a girl says to use a condom, and I don't, then that's considered a violation of consent in the firmest terms. Now, consent can be "fuzzy" sometimes or implied, but many people nowadays state that consent must be both verbal and enthusiastic, so an "I guess" is still also a "no."

Now then, in the case of NTS, if I say my girl can sleep with a guy but only under certain conditions, and she violates those conditions, then even if that turns me on, that's a violation of consent, and would fall out of the realm of NTS and into cheating. This is where the faultline lies: it can still be hot, but it's not technically NTS if it violates the principal of enthusiastic consent.

>>8669148
>>8669126
It really depends how deep in the depravity you want it to be. There will always be something that will be someone's limit and others who are going to be fine with it at the end of day. It just baffle my mind when people say if it's x or y it's cheating and not NTS anymore while NTS is already technically cheating/ being unfaithful by definition. it's always my way or the highway with you people.

>>8669198
>It really depends how deep in the depravity you want it to be.
>it's always my way or the highway with you people.

No, it really is as simple as a matter of consent. If there's no consent it's not NTS.

>>8669202
Consent of what tho? sleeping with others, sleeping withing the limit imposed, consent to look at others?
Once again many form of consent that might or might not fit your particular tastes and that's a good thing.

>>8668343
D Killer Wife just lends herself (no pun) to NTS situations

>>8669204
>There are many forms of consent, that's why when I came inside you without a condom despite you telling me not to it's okay. It just didn't fit your particular taste!

I implore you to stop being willfully dense.

>>8669206
So sexy. I'd marry her instantly

>>8669269
even if she's pregnant with his baby?

>>8669289
It couldn’t be the bull’s—because I’d make damn sure to devour every inch of her dripping, used-up pussy after every one of her wild cheat sessions. I'd bury my face in the evidence, swallowing her moans and his leftovers like a good little cuck before reclaiming her with desperate, needy thrusts. And yet… the way she'd tease me—rubbing that swollen, perfect belly against me, whispering it’s his baby, not mine—God, it'd drive me insane

>>8669294
god i'd go crayzy every time i saw her bulging belly. the uncertainty of who's child it is, and cryptic answers each time I caressed that beautiful stomach pleading to know the truth. I wouldn't be able to see her without instantly becoming smitten

>>8669148
Thank christ, someone who sees things logically. Agreed 100%.

>>8669126
It was hilarious how last update managed to piss off both the control freaks and the ntrfags.

Y'all drooling about bull impreg until the wife pops out a nigga baby kek

>>8669126
VR is kino of the highest orjav8xder

>>8669449
It's fantasy, it's fun since we don't have to deal with the reality

>>8669449
yeah, why i don't like bull impreg

>>8669449
>whoa dude you like shooting games
>just wait until someone shoots your momma lmao

If we're talking realism, the healthiest way to explore this fetish irl is by getting a large black dildo and having your wife roleplay cuckold scenarios with you. It's all about creating a safe, consensual fantasy space where you both get to indulge without an actual bull and potentially jeopardising the relationship.

>>8669845
Cucks who are into bull impreg should be killed along with their mothers for failing miserably raising their child. You're correct.

>>8669898
>Cucks
you use that word as if you weren't in a cuck thread.

>>8669449
This is why I don't like BBC. If you are not OK with at least the possibility of the bull knocking up the wife (accidents happen), then he should not be the bull.

>>8670038
My God you're retarded. Glad you'll remain a virgin

>>8669873
Look, don't waste all this common sense here, brother. No one here is willing to hear it.

>>8669873
Unless you're doing weird raceplay shit why does the dildo need to be black?

There's a severe lack of MMF content in NTS. I guess it goes in hand with lack of vanilla/stag content. Husband getting handy while she's getting fucked, spitroast, making her bounce between the two. Lots of good inspiration in hotwife porn.

>>8670242
I personally just don't like it.

>>8670245
Only into more sub NTS?

>>8669449
Yeah, huge turn off. That's why I prefer to imagine my waifu impregnated by monsters, having a short pregnancy and the offspring being something that doesn't need parental care.

>>8670253
Just don't like Cuck-Bull-Wife MMF threesomes in NTS

>>8670258
You one of those types that doesn't like the cuck getting any sort of play from the heroine for the whole story? Or are you saying you don't want the cuck and bull sharing her at once?

Because the former feels much more tangential to actual NTR. So the cuck has her "heart" (maybe) but the bull has her body, and also probably her heart "lol jk I'm just teasing you".

Hey, bros. I'm starting a fanfic about one of my favorite netorase doujin, and I was wondering which would be the best platform to publish it. I was thinking about uploading it to Scribblehub or Webnovel because of their user-friendly interface, but I don't know if there's censorship (I want to explore all kinds of light and extreme fetishes). I was also thinking about Ao3, but I don't know if it's comfortable to read there. What do you think? I'll add a photo of the couple who will be starring in the story. uwu

>>8670308
QRD?

Oh it's a doujin about a man and his wife having a reunion with her bulls so the husband tell them what things they have been doing wrong when cucking him and then he teaches them how to fuck her wife properly. It's a very funny and lewd story so I think it's great for a fanfic with lots of mini stories!

>>8670308
I can't say much about the other websites as I haven't used them. I have used A03 though and it's fine. I've seen fics tagged with extreme fetishes in A03 (though I haven't read them) so don't worry about that. Just be sure to use a good amount of tags so that your fic can be found as a fic based on a doujin might be too niche to be found on its own. You could also use Pixiv, I've seen people post their fics there. If enough other people like the doujin you're writing about there might be a tag specifically for it so it'll be easier to find for other people who like the doujin. For instance, there is a tag for the Marina series on Pixiv (it's all Marina x Black guy fan art so it's crap but the tag exists) and there's also a tag for that Tachibana NTR series that NTR folks like. Point is, niche tags for niche series exist on Pixiv.

>>8670325
Oh you're doing the a fic based on the pic you used? Nice. That doujin is pretty good.

Another pic from the doujin!

>>8670258
>pussyfree ATM subhuman
Nobody cares about your opinion.

>>8670328
Hey, thank you so much for the advice! I guess I'll go with Ao3 and then I'll try to just post it in other sites, haha. I'll post the first chapter(s) later so I hope all pf you like 'em!

sadcat, developer of nyatorase here
I am collecting feedback on the past two updates of Nyatorase, and would like to hear your opinions on it, as I am unsatisfied with my work these past few updates myself
If you havent played yet, the latest update was leaked on f95

>>8670354
>as I am unsatisfied with my work these past few updates myself
why do you say that? i've been enjoying the game so far, very nts friendly

>>8670354
I've enjoyed the last few updates. My only real concern at this point is how you plan to handle juggling multiple bulls, especially considering you were originally intending Kat to get 'corrupted' by the bulls and get tattoo'd up and the like.

>>8662075
Frankly, that’s hotter. A ugly/mediocre man fucking your wife/gf, a woman they wouldn’t otherwise be able to achieve. I don’t get wanting the ”bull” to be some alpha male.

>>8662071
Haven’t touched them in a while. They were fun for a while, but you start to see the slop for what it is, the need to handhold and lack of originality behind it.

>>8670357
the plan is each main bull has a main showcase arc and then occasional small scenes her and there, and once all of them have been showcased you get a choice on which to focus on for that kind of thing
>>8670355
I'm just unsatisfied with how I've written some stuff. I went too gungho with CGs which has adversely affected the writing. Future updates will have less CGs but better writing

>>8670354
personally I just don't like anal. But i will say I hope there's more in person cucking in the future. reporting sex is nice But I like to be in the moment and see what sexual thoughts kat is having with each bull. also, even though i've selected the humiliation route there's hardly been any of that from kat herself. It's a good game so far but those are my biggest critiques

>>8670354
>>8670365
If I had to give a criticism of the last few updates, I'd say it's that you're trying to do too much in what is supposed to be an initial NTS session with the bull. Just taking the last update into account, you had Kat fuck the bull + receive anal training + lose her anal virginity + get DP'd for the first time + get gangbanged for the first time. Altogether it leaves less room for future escalation with that bull, and in general to a certain extent as well. Like, if we take into account the entire game, Kat's literally getting gangbanged by orcs on her second time doing NTS. Normally I'm not one to complain about escalation happening too quickly, since I'm tired of getting blueballed by NTS games that refuse to leave the build-up stage, but I think it's a valid criticism in this case.

>>8669269
>marry D but she still has to continue completing undercover missions
>since you married her Killer Wife frame all she gets are undercover assignments
>she is very competent and could very easily assassinate her targets
>but she knows about your NTS fetish
>she purposely chooses to seduce her targets and gets them to fuck her
>since she is an Android there is no chance of pregnancy so she encourages her target to cum as deep inside her as they can, leglocking every single one
>comes back to (You) after each mission dripping with another man's semen from her pussy
best Nikke

A netorase doujin Sei Shounagon from Fate grand order . I commission from him zhizhitranslation.carrd.co if you wanna check out more! xD

>>8670372
>If I had to give a criticism of the last few updates, I'd say it's that you're trying to do too much in what is supposed to be an initial NTS session with the bull.
I think this is not exclusive to nyatorase but every f95 project that has incremental updates every month or so. There's a real risk of making readers lose interest if a chapter is "just buildup" so the choice is to escalate quickly or work more so you can deliver more in every update. In an ideal world of visual novels that release piecemeal, there would've been a long "demo" that sets up the different supplements i.e
>1-2 hours worth of words for the setup, including the confession, roleplaying, exhibitionism, blowjob whatever culminating into the first bull
>each new update is now a new bull plus a new gimmick

>>8670372
imo the erotic appeal rests almost entirely on the buildup. the question of 'how far will this go' with some light drama between scenes. the moment you escalate to 'fucking all day in the love hotel' timelapse the scenario is basically over, and they only work if they've been set up properly.

>>8670365
I dropped the game after 0.05. If she is just going to be complete whore from get go then there is not much to look for. Sure you can play around with variety but once you have cranked it to eleven you can't dial it back to eight.

>>8670676
>>8670668
Honestly the current state of the story presents an opportunity to do something rarely seen in NTS narratives: like most sex stuff, at some point it's gonna be old. Maybe we could get a montage of MC and Kat indulging in their NTS arrangement with the current bulls, it lasts for a few weeks and months, until they realize they're not as turned on as they used to be (too much of a good thing etc etc) so they stop for a while. Have a timeskip even, a year of just being a normal couple who went through a kinky phase.

Then at the end of the new chapter do a fakeout, they meet the newest bull and their gears start turning again and now they're gonna savor this new guy in their sights.

Vulgar Reverie started out nice and slow, but I feel like halfway through it has succumbed to the same problem. It's at a point where I don't know if they can do any exciting escalation anymore. Amelia has basically done everything and has no limiters anymore. She could do a gangbang I guess, but personally I don't think that'd be any hotter. She could find another dude, but it'd just be same old. She could do it raw, but the characters have never made any deal about condoms, so taking it off would have little narrative effect. Any other kinds of more extreme sex are not interesting to me. I would be interested in the characters dialing it back, like the MC saying he doesn't want it for a while, or her doing that, but honestly I don't see Saxxy doing it. I just don't know if it's possible to make it that exciting anymore, and I've kinda given up hope.

You just can't write these stories incrementally, trying to appease people, because you'll speedrun the progression and then it gets boring. You have to pre-plan out the whole thing well and really take restraint to keep it slow and steady if you want it to be long. If you're doing a vanilla NTS game, then it should be even more slow on the setup. The first sex with a bull should come, at the earliest, probably like halfway into the story. Preferably delayed as much as possible, and done slowly, because vanilla NTS doesn't go as extreme, so there's not as many checkpoints to hit after sex. Maso NTS can do it earlier, since they have more degeneracy checkpoints.

>>8670750
This is why I keep championing bokudaka. For all its faults, the setup is spectacular. I keep going back and replaying those scenes because they're so exciting, and they make the first sex have a huge impact. I also personally think the wife is perfect for this. Based on the big works, I feel like most people here prefer smug and confident wives, but I really think shy wives are the best for NTS. There's much more character progression to be had trying to convince an innocent wife to do this than an outgoing party animal. Every time you convince her to do something new it's exhilarating.

I'm not gay but I'd 1 million percent bury my face down my waifu's snatch as the bull’s cock is making her cum and squirt

>>8670750
With how Vulgar Reverie escalated Amelia can slow down naturally without making it seem abrupt. Saxxy could make it a form of teasing, like she is withholding nts from MC.

For Nyatorase it needs to be more dramatic like Kat wants to quit the nts. For example she really wants to continue for MC but she keeps getting carried away and she is afraid she will eventually go too far and ends up hurting him. That would give a reasonable and natural scenario to dial things down.

>>8667513
most of these poster are anglos, blame them and their mental issues.
Mexican 4chan don't suffer for this bad taste.

bokudaka2 finally dropped on dlsite. https://www.dlsite.com/pro/work/=/product_id/VJ01003923.html

>>8670750
>>8670797
>we want less sex actually
and this is why I always urge creators to make a game they want and not listen to fans for game development.

>>8670354
I've personally been very happy with the last few updates. I do think some of the CGs in .7 could've used a little more attention, and maybe some of the dialogue could've been fleshed out a bit more, but hardly anything I'd say is bad.

Also I don't agree with the anonymous saying all the sex happened too fast and now it’s boring or anything like that. I think that’s shortsighted. The benefit of NTS is that it's a scenario fetish, which means it's very malleable. I think as long as you portray the characters' chemistry and are still feeling the tension and enthusiasm for what you're writing, then I think it will come out.

>>8670750
This is why I say good NTS has rules that they stick to at least 50% of the time. Without rules, not only does escalation feel more sporadic and less consistent.

Plus, then it feels like the relationship is flimsier to me. When the couple is only together in name and the GF/wife isn't much more than a OF sex worker who knows her top tier donator's (the cuck) name, then it's like, what are we even doin'.

>>8670944
I forgot my second point for that first paragraph. No rules means no rules to break. And breakin rules is part of the spice of NTS.

>>8670354
I think the .7 suffers from too much stuff happening in it, and too many CGs. DP and gangbangs, while super hot, are a big step, and should be left for another time. Also spending more time and description for each CG instead of going through 20 of them in a single sitting.

>>8670840
As in, you think mine was a bad take? I do think it's essential to get feedback, but even more important is having thought deeply about the story and not just wing it.

>>8670946
What do you mean? In a way where she breaks consent? She does things they haven't discussed, and it's unclear whether the husband would like it?

>>8670354
I would feel bad too if I released so many garbage updates, but its ok the idiots are still paying so just keep milking your supporters.

>>8670354
I like the orc foreskin. Feel like there isn't enough of this kind of thing.
>>8670459
This doujin was fire anon. Thanks for the rec

>>8669449
I only like it as a vehicle to feel humiliated. I only like netorase as a whole as a vehicle to feel humiliated. Strictly in fantasy. I would never want the partner I'm with to ever cheat on me in reality. That wouldn't turn me on. It would devestate me. I know I might be in the minority holding this opinion here, but for me this is one of those things that is only ever hot in fantasies. The second I actually think past what's on the screen, what the implication of the whole scenario would be if it were real, or even just how I would react if someone acted out the fantasies that *do* turn me on but in real life, netorase becomes disgusting to me.

>>8669449
That's why I don't like bull impreg. Now on the other hand, raw creampie sex with the black bull AFTER I've impregnated her and her belly has already started growing, that's my ultimate fantasy.

I can just imagine how hot it would be for her at 8 months pregnant looking like >>8669312 while leaking out another man's cum on top of me . She'd be whispering that there's only 1 month left until my sex ban is lifted and I'm allowed back inside of her unprotected, at least until I get her pregnant again. But until then, she'll keep bringing home warm meals for the baby's father after her play dates with Daddy are over.

Fuck man. That'd be a perfect wife and perfect life.

>>8670354
i'd echo the other anon's sentiments. i think you have a tendency to skip past scenes as quickly as possible and try to move on to the next. this can be a big plus like in the scene with the bbc bull where he just keeps going at her, but it shows in speciality scenes like her rimming the bull or the player cleaning the cum out of her pussy, they kind of flew by with no real exploration or depth despite their kink factor and uniqueness.

>>8670750
i don't like vr as much because the creator is holding back too much. i like nyatorase a lot because kat is a sex fiend that greatly relishes and enjoys having sex with men, whereas in vr they try too much in making sure amelia is always looking at and talking to the player, as if to soothe our fears and anxities, when it should be the opposite.

>>8671355
>when it should be the opposite.
She should be trying to terrorize us and ignore us? Ok abusefag.

>>8671355
See, this goes back to the old dom versus sub NTS debate (or vanilla/stag vs maso, whatever). If they're trying to cater to the sub crowd, which ostensibly is where the game has been leaning lately with the focus on humiliation and lack of husband agency, then you probably would wanna lean in further, like you're saying. If the goal is to terrify the masos into coming, then it's not doing a great job at that. But, if it's trying to appeal to the dom crowd, which felt like it was for the first few updates, then this humiliation and lack of control will probably feel bad. The game's in this state where it can't decide who to cater to. It started catering to one side at first, and now is catering to the other side, but it's not really commiting either way, and so it's just kind of underwhelming for both.

>>8671382
I guess in the end maybe that's fine. Everyone's somewhere on the dom/sub spectrum, and you can never please everyone. I guess it appeals most to people who're more in the center. They like some of the consent stuff, but also some humiliation stuff.

I'm too much on the dom side, and the switch to humiliation stuff has just not been my jam.

>>8670354
The biggest thing is keeping her love and attention on her boyfriend. Its not her fucking someone else that's hot, it's that her loving her boyfriend so much regardless of if he's a super beta or if she has to do things like fucking other guys and dirty talking him with a report after to get him off, the heart of nts is she is willing to do it and the thing she enjoys the most about it is that she is able to make him feel good, and the thing that makes smug nts hot is her getting off on getting him off and her smugness fueling his arousal. Perfect nts her thought bubbles she's thinking up how hot it's gonna be when she's back with her boyfriend and how he's gonna cum buckets to the video she's making and thinking how she can tease him harder. She rides the line how she makes it as real as possible but he is never actually at risk. Fake risk is hot, real risk is not. The anxiety inducing parts is the seeing what lows she goes to for him. The key being for him and not for herself. Nts is a selfish fetish, so the more she enables that selfishness the better. Especially in a fantasy story. I know irl cucks are just spineless losers who have to concede all respect in a relationship but if someone wants that they can get it easy irl. Nts fantasy appeal is she's a whore, but she's your whore and only for you. It's basically a pimp who isn't actually forcing her to trick to make him money but rather is just a degenerate with the horny.

>>8671353
it was primarily because I made too many CGs, desu
moving forward, there will be less CGs so scenes will be more descriptive
I went way too overboard desu, which is easy to do when you gen CGs like that

>>8671216
You're unironically based—one of the rare NTS chads here who's not actually an irl cuckold. But let's be honest: if your wife was down, you’d absolutely act out an NTS scenario in the bedroom with her and a comically huge dildo, right?

>>8671343
I wanna drunkenly breed my waifu, totally forget it happened… and then spend the next nine months spiraling while she cruelly teases me that the bull knocked her up instead. That mix of dread and humiliation would wreck me—in the best way. I'd be anxious, ashamed… and yet my cuck dick would be throbbing with joy. And then, right at the end—bam—the ultimate relief: it was mine all along. She’d never carry anyone else’s child. Just mine. Heaven. Literal heaven.

>>8671407
nta, but the furthest I think I could go IRL is watching her ride a dildo while pretending to fuck another man. anything more than that pushes relationships to the absolute limit. it's like doing heroin, feels fucking amazing for a bit but then you realize what you just did and reality hits you like a sledgehammer. not to mention the psychological damage to the woman who has to rationalize being with a literal cuckold

>>8671365
no in that she should get lose in the pleasure of having cheating sex so that the feelings of anxiety, insecurity etc are great, and then the reaffirmation through clean-up/sloppy seconds/handjob shows that you're still number one.
>>8671382
fully agreed on that, i think the game is just too pussyfooted on what it wants the player to be, like you said, he acts like your typical bitch that does nothing all day and is lead around by his wife, but the actual humiliation or degradation of him is non-existent. i think the issue is that nts games are a rarer breed and so it's a broadchurch of players playing it all who have differing notions of what nts is to them, so as you said have described, you get a product that is design by committee and doesn't really appeal to any group in particular

>>8671492
>but the actual humiliation or degradation of him is non-existent.

That's because it's not a humiliation game. It's an NTS game.

you do not have an NTS fetish you have a humiliation fetish. These are not the same thing. You continuously freak out in these threads about this and refuse to accept that you are trying to force a secondary fetish as the main driving force of what everyone else wants.

>>8671496
Lil bro is too braindead to understand there are a million variations of NTS.

>>8671498
>lil bro done be finna lowkey diddy ahh blud
please talk like an adult in the future.

"A million variations of NTS" is not your magical outlet for demanding your specific subfetish be catered to at the exclusion of all else. This is a consistent problem in this thread with you in particular.

We have done a good job this thread of establishing pretty clearly that NTS is "cheating with consent," very simply. There are not a million different variations of that, there is simply cheating with consent and other stacked on subfetishes. No, it's not "only NTS if the bull is black" (https://archived.moe/h/thread/8634309/#q8644811) or "only NTS if the boyfriend is pussyfree" (https://archived.moe/h/thread/8600011/#q8613439.) Those are a different thing. You can like them - nobody says you can't - but they're not NTS.

>>8671503
Didnt read, stupid nigger. Accept the fact your variation of NTS isn't the ideal for everyone. Now fuck off back to reddìt

>>8671503
Cheating with consent is an oxymoron. You're not the boss of this thread. Go back to your discord, tranny.

>>8671496
lmao i rarely post in these threads, this must be the first time i've posted in like 10, i usually just check to see if there are any good recs

and yes my fetish is nts with humiliation, as opposed to something like nts with dominance.

you should take a break from this thread, clearly it's damaging your mind.

>>8671509
>>8671504
same IP

>cuckold got btfo"d and is now crying
Kek

>>8671382
>>8671384
It's shocking notion that things might not just be extremes. That there could be something at the middle.

This greatly confuses retards with on/off brains.

>>8669289
I want to eat her bbc creampied pussy every day until I die btw

>>8663809
Source?

Secrets and Boundaries has updated!

https://f95zone.to/threads/secrets-and-boundaries-v0-0-5a-fronte91.220793/

This is an alpha release, so there are some bugs to iron out, but there is still some nice content. You can now have a romantic kiss with Olivia after she confirms that she used to suck off boys in her high school, for example, and Luna will comment if you let her give away her first blowjob to some of her costumers.