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Megumin
How the fuck would you be able to tell this is AI
Anonymous No.8669321 [Report] >>8700059
>>8669319 (OP)
The vibes of it, but you are right this one is qutiet hard. I think the big one is that it plays into AI strenghts:
- Generic background with no interesting details
- Generic male body with for some reason quite details abs
- Generic sex pose and desu even Megumin body
- Almost all the detail is on the face

What really tells me it's AI is just the fact AI is quite dumb and does not have brain-power to do "a lot" obviously it focues here mostly for the face to be correct and the eyes have hearts and rest is meh.
Anonymous No.8669328 [Report]
>>8669319 (OP)
AI basically always fucks up hair overlapping/intersecting things. Usually eyebrows, but here the biggest tell is the tit disappearing behind the hair dangling down. Also there's usually parts that weirdly melt into each other, like her left buttcheek melting into the guy's leg, her left foot melting into the bed.
Shit like this is how you can tell it is actually AI and not just something painfully generic.
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>>8669319 (OP)
I like megumin
Anonymous No.8669491 [Report] >>8669846 >>8750936
>>8669319 (OP)
Some of the pixels and stuff, and having seen a good many AI in my time
Anonymous No.8669846 [Report] >>8753028
>>8669319 (OP)
I guess the composition and an overall lack of style and any individuality that would be inherent to it if it were drawn by an actual artist.
By averaging on everything that the model was trained on, it ends up not looking like anything at all. That includes the coloring which is consistent between pieces generated by the same model. Basically, what this anon said >>8669491
If you see enough of them, your brain just picks up on the patterns that the model relies on.
Next, AI, for some reason, really struggles to make a character look like themselves. Usually it fucks up the hair, body proportions and, to a lesser extent, face. Basically, the characters are off-model when you know that it wasn't intended as such. I can't pin point why exactly, but the pic in OP does not look like megumin to me. Maybe it, as well, is due to the lack of any character design-specific pieces of clothing or items. And, I imagine, if you were to ask it to add them (like, say, her staff or robe) it would really struggle to include it into the picture in a manner that would make sense logically.
And another thing I want to say does not neccessarily have to do something with to this pic, but, more often than not, characters in AI-generated images have lifeless fucking eyes that aren't looking at anything/are directed somewhere where it doesn't make sense in the context.

That's more or less how I would tell and without rehearsing other anon's points.
But that's if I'm asked to articulate it all.
In reality, I don't even have it think about it and it's obvious right away.
If you CAN'T tell it's AI, are you really human?
Anonymous No.8670333 [Report] >>8746484
>>8669319 (OP)
Obvious to me at first glance, but I run an AI-gened Pixiv account that's pretty successful.

One part that is easy to explain is the wood trim around the floor-wall connection. What the fuck is it doing in the corner-portion of the room. Also her feet placement is weird.

There's also a lot of blurring (check under her stomach... wtf is that supposed to be)

A human artist would not draw her left pupil like that. They would have kept the heart eyes consistent.

There's even more, but I'm rambling
Anonymous No.8670842 [Report] >>8747377
I've been trying to translate Hiiro_H's Megumin sets and it's fucking impossible with the sound effects and machine translators not knowing context for words. I thought of commissioning but I dunno
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>>8669319 (OP)
The left shoulder is completely fucked up lol
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>>8669319 (OP)
>How?
Because most people have eyes and can see the dozen small fuck ups that add up to a fake picture
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>>8669319 (OP)
What's stopping AI creators from just touching up all the little imperfections?
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>>8676054
The prompters literally can't, 99.9% of them flinch away at the sight of an L-wrench much less something as unintuitive as image editing software. Meanwhile plenty of artists are silently using AI as a major piece of their process and no one can tell, because they can actually use software. The amount of people who are "between" is vanishingly phew & most of them only do editing for monetary gain as a freelancer or a worker.
Anonymous No.8676744 [Report] >>8676811
>>8676054
shhh dont give them tips dawg
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>>8676744
if it gets even one of them to the point where it is indistinguishable that it was made by AI, it will have been worth it
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>>8669319 (OP)
her left tit is only half-attached to her body, the left hand's got six fingers and its index finger is super swollen, the right hand's got double knuckles, only one eye has a heart in it, her collarbone is a warped mess, and her legs literally melt away into nothingness at the knee

imagine trying to charge people for this garbage
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>>8669319 (OP)
Cleanish looking art but with a strangely low resolution, like less than 1080p
Anonymous No.8680732 [Report] >>8681408
>>8669319 (OP)
Is this AI?
Anonymous No.8681408 [Report] >>8681418
>>8680732
My nigger in Christ, read the thread.
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>>8681408
it's the bump spammer, he doesn't even care
Anonymous No.8681452 [Report] >>8681470
>>8676054
they're too stupid to learn how to draw, why do you think they bother with these slop machines?
Anonymous No.8681470 [Report] >>8682773
>>8681452
this, wasting years on a useless skill is the smart man's way
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>>8681470
it doesn't take years if you have actual talent, loser. go slob on some AI generated dick or something
Anonymous No.8687087 [Report] >>8690853
I can tell it's ai because the man isn't brown
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>>8676054
The same thing that stopped them from ever trying to learn to draw in the first place.
Having absolutely zero talent or work ethic. If a task requires any degree of time, effort or thinking, it's too much for them. It has to be doable with a single button press or else it's too much for them.
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>>8687087
Gross
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>>8669319 (OP)
It’s so obvious you’d be retarded not to see it
Anonymous No.8693485 [Report] >>8721289
>>8669319 (OP)
ai can be nice too
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>>8669319 (OP)
I can tell by some of the pixels and I've seen quite a few AIs in my day.
Anonymous No.8693625 [Report] >>8693644 >>8695498
>>8676054
If it's just for personal reasons, you probably wouldn't bother unless you were trying to make something very specific. Inpainting to fix mistakes does take time, and certain mistakes are more trouble than they're worth. For the OP's picture the background detail of the background wall being misaligned comes to mind. Most people just don't focus on anything that isn't the actual subject of the art, much less the blurry background.

For commercial stuff like a patreon page, I suspect a lot of the "better looking" ones do go back and touch up little details. At least to the best of their abilities. This person likely did as well, given the hand grabbing the hair and the mouth drool is fairly coherent. AI tends to fuck up fine details like that but here they look okay. He likely just missed the other details or deemed them not worth fixing. But checking Graphtreon, this Vortalis guy is making about $338 a month. Does he deserve it? I don't know. 86 paid members say he does. More interesting are "hybrid" creators, people that know a pure AI approach won't work well, but they have enough illustrative/digital painting know-how to use it to accelerate their workflows. Honkibooty comes to mind, given that Danbooru says he's AI. But for the life of me I can't tell it apart from regular art. I suspect he's an otherwise talented illustrator that uses AI to generate a "good enough" base image and then traces over it, fixing AI mistakes as he goes. It's what I'd do if I could draw.
Anonymous No.8693643 [Report]
I gave up on hating AI generated porn in every case, because there's quite a few decent ones now. Saddest part is that it actually gives us SOME art for otherwise unpopular characters. Like this no-name girl (fan name Minako) that gets raped and slaughtered by a demon in Urotsukidouji New Saga (the best two sex scenes are the two snuff ones...).
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>>8693625
Or this one: Rosalie from Cross Ange getting plapped.
Without AI generation there would be nothing at all.
Anonymous No.8693873 [Report] >>8693874
>>8669319 (OP)
shiny skin and looks like the lowest effort prompt after you used it for a while. you can even visit /hdg/ and see basically the exact same shit
Anonymous No.8693874 [Report]
>>8693873
cont.
here is an example of low effort AI slop >>8691501
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>>8693625
Buy an ad retard
Anonymous No.8695588 [Report] >>8700085
Nice nsfw art of Megumin. Even though it’s not by an actual artist.

I always find actual artist drawings of anything to be so much better. Drawing is really hard without persistent practice and dedication. I still can’t compare to actual artists that spent so much time and are actually skilled.

Ai is still relatively easy to spot but it’s getting harder over time.
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needs more megumin
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a cute breather between posts
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back to the horny
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Anonymous No.8697198 [Report] >>8697359
thats all for now

hope you enjoy megubros
Anonymous No.8697227 [Report] >>8697359 >>8697860
most of it was /e/, so ... eh
Anonymous No.8697359 [Report] >>8697860
>>8697227
you mean it was MEHgumin ?^^

>>8697198
tks buddy, my turn now~
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thats all for me, thank you good bye !
Anonymous No.8697460 [Report] >>8698108
>>8669319 (OP)
>>8669319 (OP)
>How the fuck would you be able to tell this is AI
1. a total lack of SVUL/divine spark
2. AI can tell with 99.9% accuracy this is AI (lul)
t. data science student

(pic rel: an-OCR-would-probably-confuse-for-megumin-so-close-enough.jpg)

Also just the lack of imperfection or any evidence of drawing techniques used just like shooping if you actually know this stuff its kinda giga obvious that it wasn't really made with purely human techniques then again artists have been using software as tools for a while so it's not really clear where the art ends and slop begins.

But this is slop. Not necessarily bad but just slop.
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>>8697359
another megubro with great taste :3
>>8697227
nothing wrong with that imo, all megumin is good ^^
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>>8676054
what makes you think there aren't ones that do
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>>8697460
these detectors are total memes
but the easiest way to differentiate is just the broken dynamic range
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>>8669321
Everything you said is wrong as human art will do all these things. It's more that there's objective mistakes like both legs missing/mangled, her left hand being mangled, and his left hand disappearing. But you're right, there's a general vibe about it that makes it look AI at a glance.
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>>8695588
No one is thinking about how much time you spent drawing that picture when they're fapping to it, anon.
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>>8699745
cute
Anonymous No.8700344 [Report] >>8700438
>>8699567
>>8699745
These are all generated. Personally I don't get much of the classic AI vibe from them but I am curious what fresh eyes make of them.
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>>8700344
yeah its pretty evident its AI
now harder, does my pic generated or not?


(spoiler : yes it is)
Anonymous No.8700439 [Report]
sometimes you can tell by the plap lines
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>>8669319 (OP)
>How the fuck would you be able to tell this is AI

if they wont even bother to fix it

then its AI
Anonymous No.8702573 [Report] >>8703361 >>8714473 >>8735359
>>8669319 (OP)
Because I've also been generating megumin hentai all day so I can just tell.
Anonymous No.8703361 [Report] >>8735359
>>8702573
post your best
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>>8669319 (OP)
It is obvious
Anonymous No.8711522 [Report] >>8711769 >>8722406
I figured there would be a ton of her limp and helpless body being free-used after her daily "Explosion!"
Anonymous No.8711769 [Report] >>8714132
>>8711522
too complicated for AI
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>>8711769
Then what good is it then?
Anonymous No.8714473 [Report] >>8724144
>>8702573
local SD seems to have a hard time with belly button placement
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>>8693485
very nice vulva
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>>8711522
Theres some stuff
>Goblins
https://exhentai.org/g/3505898/482c791010/
>Ugly Bastard (warning black)
https://exhentai.org/g/3526139/21b2f72325/
Anonymous No.8724144 [Report]
>>8714473
In it's defense, that was my fault. The detailer I use was set to .50 denoise which tends to fuck with things like belly buttons and nipples. 0.3-0.35 seems to be the sweet spot for it.
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>>8669319 (OP)
look at her leg.
the other one, the one that is gone
Anonymous No.8735359 [Report] >>8736699 >>8738340
>>8702573
>>8703361
What are you guys using to generate? Also I tried fixing up some of the more obvious AI bits in this one because I liked it
Anonymous No.8735365 [Report]
And nobody have posted the official porn on Megumin? You disappoint me bros.
Anonymous No.8736699 [Report] >>8738184
>>8735359
I gen locally with my own merge of a couple different checkpoints.
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Anonymous No.8738184 [Report] >>8738766
>>8736699
I want to learn how to make these locally. Is it a pain to set up?
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>>8669319 (OP)
Primary clue is the right eye. The left eye is ok, but the right eye fails the consistency check. There should be a clear heart in the right eye to match the style. Instead, the AI fucked it up. Secondary clue is the nose. It's way too far right, no artist is fucking that up THAT bad. Third fuckup is the right hand, it's ALMOST there, but not quite. AI is famous for fucking up eyes and hands. Knuckles on the left hand are meh too, but that could just be shitty artistry. Final tell is the missing legs - like where are they? They should be underneath the guy, clear tell of an AI with no anatomy knowledge. The eyebrows are also gooned up too.

There is probably a dozen other artist things that artists immediately pick up on like coloring and highlights, but those are out of scope for me.
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>>8735359
>three fingers
>the most fucked up male torso
>lighting makes no sense
>her spine is broken
>her thumb is fucked
>her naval is leaking a puddle for some reason
>arm length is wack
Anonymous No.8738344 [Report]
>>8676054
The whole fucking point of AI is to NOT DRAW SHIT. I used the code AI tools we have at work, they fucking suck, so I just write my own code. About the only useful shit it's good for is when I am stuck and need a launching off point for some code, then it's great (after I replace like 50% of it to make it do what I actually asked it to do). In other words, if you CAN create, these tools are a hindrance, not a help. But if you can't create, these tools are a godsend - easy slop-tier content FAST.

So I get it. I'd love to have a little art machine where I could say make me "X" in the form of "Y" and the style of blah, and it prints me out one. But they suck, and you have to prompt in the most esoteric fashion to get anything close to usable. And I've seen some of the code setups gennies need to make "good" AI. Fucking absurd complex shit.

Also I HAVE touched up shit in paint before, massive time sink and it sucks. Would not recommend.
Anonymous No.8738766 [Report] >>8738859
>>8738184
guess it depends on what you consider to be a pain. I use comfyUI, and the setup is literally just extract and run. the main upside and downside to it is how manual it is. It's a node based UI, and you can make your workflows as simple or as schizo as you want. you'll need to download model checkpoints to use as well.
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>>8738766
moonlight reflecting off the lake but not where the moon actually is
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>>8743533
get uncensored full res on kemono
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Anonymous No.8746484 [Report] >>8746509
>>8670333
do you make money on Pixiv?
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>>8699520
artist/style?
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>>8746484
I've thought about charging for commissions, and I get offers, but for now it's all completely unmonetized
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>>8676054
a complete lack of actual talent
Anonymous No.8746891 [Report]
you can always tell if they just do it all in one pass. if the person makes the background its own thing, then the characters, and inpaints all flaws out, you MIGHT be able to trick some people, but that's assuming the AI won't be inconsistent in any step of the way, which is unlikely due to how focusing on one area works vs. the whole image. unless you're willing to touchup the whole image it never passes.
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>>8746740
Luckily talent is completely overrated.
Anonymous No.8747237 [Report] >>8747245
>>8669319 (OP)
the people that claim to be able to tell if something is AI or not are always bullshitting. You can post something that isn't AI and people will claim it is 90% of the time if you insinuate it may be AI.

And even then, does it fucking matter? That pic is better than 90% of artists
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>>8747237
>post something that isn't AI and people will claim it is 90%
just because you can't tell that the "artist" is an AI slopper doesn't mean we can't
Anonymous No.8747377 [Report] >>8748923
>>8670842
don't commission
I translate doujins for money and I will charge 5$ for this page alone not even joking
Anonymous No.8747784 [Report] >>8757497
>>8676054
Because touching up a finished picture is very obvious and hard to conceal if you dont have the separate layers that you would normally have in a drawing
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>>8747377
The sound effects and slang and the way the japanese words are drawn in weird stretched out/deformed ways make machine translation impossible sometimes for his work. I'm still contemplating commissioning someone if I find a guy that does it for cheap, but yeah I'm slowly losing the will to. There used to a be translator thread here but I think the guy is gone
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>>8746619
that aureola with those nipples looks more comical than erotic
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Also invisible details behind subjects (arm going through hat?) or clothes being cut at places which make no sense (top of a one piece missing)
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>>8669319 (OP)
I can tell right away because of the pixels. I have seen many pixels in my time.
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>>8669846
The problem you're looking for that makes this girl not look like Megumin is either her eyepatch or the bandage around her leg. Specifically the bandage is something I've never seen missing from Megumin in human-made art of her.
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>>8699745
more pregnant Megumin, please!
Anonymous No.8757341 [Report] >>8757480
>>8669319 (OP)
Because it has no soul
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>>8757341
So do real women, what's your point?
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>>8747784
Not really
Anonymous No.8759494 [Report] >>8759826
>>8676054
In case you want an actual answer, it's because it takes time to do that. When you literally have access to an image generator that can generate any character, wearing anything, doing anything, being anywhere, etc, you don't care if the bedpost in the background could look a little better. Not everything has to be a work of art. Even in the middle of generating an image, we're already thinking about the next 3 images we want to create. That's why we don't bother going back and fixing little imperfections. Unlike a traditional artist, we don't have any attachment to any individual image because it took the algorithm 5 seconds to create for us.

For the record though, most issues can be fixed afterwards with a bit of time and effort. I usually bounce images between stable diffusion, MS paint and gimp depending on what needs to be fixed, and I only do it if it's for when it's a commission.
Anonymous No.8759826 [Report] >>8759840
>>8759494
>summer uniform
>morning lightning four to five hours after sunrise
Always nice to see artists who don't understand daylight. They can die of hunger for all I care.
Anonymous No.8759840 [Report] >>8759873
>>8759826
>That
>Artist
Holy fuck you are stupid. That's AI
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>>8759840
I simply refuse your narrative, and you can't do anything about it but seethe.
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>>8669319 (OP)
Honestly for the most part is who the hell would spend time actually making this? its just megumin straight up getting buttfucked. most artists rarely draw straight up sex, its mostly just suggestive pieces or softcore stuff.
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>>8669319 (OP)
>How the fuck would you be able to tell this is AI
i can see it from a thumbnail. Idk how some people can't tell ai stuff. I wasn't fool once.
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