Visa and Mastercard are silently blocking payments to certain games, platforms, and services they personally disapprove of.

This isn't about fraud or scams — it's ideological or content-based censorship through financial control.

They dominate the global card payment system (90%+ market share), and use this power to control what people can buy. That’s monopolistic abuse, plain and simple.

We need to fight back and report them. If you're in Chile:
https://www.fne.gob.cl/contacto/formulario-de-denuncias/

For international users:
USA (FTC): https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Europe (Competition Commission): https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu

Post your own experiences. Share proof of blocked payments.
Even if you’re not directly affected now, this could impact every developer, artist, or user who relies on card payments.

Don't let Visa and Mastercard decide what content is allowed online.

I encourage the protesting... but you still need a plan B in case the financial parasites and governments tell you to get bent. Just like how people in countries with censored internet have to use VPNs and Tor, you need an alternative to credit cards. Ideally one without high transaction fees, so standard Bitcoin isn't ideal.

>>8675560 (OP)
why bother using payment channels when you can just pay directly to the merchants wallet

>>8675784
cause most of them don't have one

this feels like a hopeless fight honestly. Everywhere you go you just see people making jokes "Le Goonercide! hyuk hyuk!" ive even seen people say "Well, less porn is good, means less brain rot" The current "vibe" of the whole world is against us.

>>8676151
Go and touch some grass, youre out of touch.
Banning porn nowadays is like banning alcohol or cigarettes.

>>8675560 (OP)
And to colombia bro?
Chile not have so much people

>>8675784
Why bother with Visa when you can just ask your favorite artist where they live and go hand them the cash?

>>8675560 (OP)
As easy as using crypto I guess?

>>8676226
you can afford the plane ticket?
cool story bro

>>8676169
>Go and touch some grass
I have. People are in favor of it. The fucking current admin has support from half the country to do it if they want to. in less than 4 years every red state will have anti-porn laws. Blue states will be called pedo defenders for not having them. The FOSTA-SESTA act was bi partisan. Gen Z hates sex in movies. All this anti porn shit is only going to get worse.

>>8676373
you're going there anyway to worship them regularly

Doesnt the EU have its own competitor called Wero or something?

Yeah fuck that shit. I think a proper regulation is a long time away personally. I don't think what they're doing is fine, but I think in order to adequately manage such a thing, we'll have to develop further, probably to the point at which when it can happen none of us will have been alive for a long time

>>8676393
i support it. good luck trying to fight against age verification to view porn

>>8675560 (OP)
>If you're in Chile:
So it's just brownoids that care about this?

This is not just about one payment being blocked — it's about setting a dangerous precedent for digital censorship.

Visa and Mastercard are increasingly rejecting transactions to games, platforms, and content they consider “controversial” or “non-compliant”. While some of these cases go unnoticed, they are quietly shaping what we are allowed to access and consume online.

Even if you’re not directly affected today, this creates a chilling effect. Developers and publishers may start self-censoring their games just to avoid financial blacklisting. Today it's niche adult titles or politically sensitive games — tomorrow it could be games like *Star Blade*, indie developers, or creators pushing artistic boundaries.

This isn’t a moral debate. It’s about monopolies using financial control to become de facto gatekeepers of digital content. If two corporations can quietly decide which products and ideas are allowed to be bought online, we’re no longer dealing with an open market — we’re living under a financial content filter.

This is why it's important to speak up now. Report them, spread awareness, and push back against this form of corporate censorship before it becomes normalized.

>>8676742
censorship is good actually and is needed.

>>8676754
He says in a hentai board of an anonymous imageboard that would definitely be censored if the fuckers get away with what they're doing

>>8676789
okay? i can be smoking while saying cigs are bad.i can live without 4chan

>>8676806
But saying that cigarettes should be banned while you're smoking one does make you look like a retard.

>>8676809
how is it retarded to say yeah this is bad for me it should probably be banned.

what would be retarded is thinking smoking isn't bad for me and it shouldn't be banned aka you

>>8676151
That's the point. That is how they get ya. And it's not like it's just porn, these CC/paypal fucks shut down conservative startup stuff all the time. Oh you want to run a conservative business because liberals told you to "make your own"? Well, get bent, we aren't gonna let you play.

The real fight would be taking these goons to court via discrimination lawsuit, just like those gays did to the cake bakers. But that shit takes lawyers and all sorts of time/effort/cash. And ironically, all the NSFW stuff affected definitely hit some alphabet crew crap - you could 100% hit the CCs with all sorts of hate speech/discrimination suits over it, and the courts would have to side with you lest they grant the power to the CC companies to kill pride stuff.

>>8676393
The anti-porn stuff is astroturfed. It's for forcing digital ID on the NPCs so they can control wrong think. That is the end goal. Porn is just the test bed for new tech, like it always is.

Let’s imagine this:

A small indie developer releases a psychological horror game with disturbing themes — something in the style of *Silent Hill* or *Lone Survivor*. It doesn't break any laws. It has a clear warning label. It’s rated appropriately for adults. The game explores trauma, fear, and the darker sides of the human mind — nothing new in the genre.

Suddenly, payment processors like Visa or Mastercard block purchases of the game through certain platforms. No legal action, no due process. Just silent rejection. Why? "Violates content guidelines." That’s it. No transparency, no details.

The developer receives no clear explanation. No court, no regulator. Just a corporate algorithm (or a risk-averse manager) deciding the game is “too much.”

Now imagine this keeps happening — one game at a time. First adult content, then horror. Then political. Then anything “risky.”

It’s not about protecting users. It’s about corporate censorship — quiet, private, and impossible to appeal.

This is why we must speak out. Because if Visa and Mastercard can blacklist any game simply because they don’t like the tone, theme, or message — then *no one* is safe. Not even harmless horror stories.

Real case: The indie horror game *Vile: Exhumed*, by Final Girl Games, is a psychological horror experience involving themes of online misogyny and toxic parasocial relationships. It was delisted from **Steam**, not because it was illegal or broke any rating policy, but simply due to pressure from payment processors like **Visa and Mastercard**.

According to the developer, the game was banned for “sexual content with depictions of real people”—a vague justification that fans and creators found absurd, especially considering the content is implied and metaphorical, not explicit. No transparency, no review or dialogue — they just pulled it.:contentReference[oaicite:1]{index=1}

This sets a dangerous standard: payment companies can arbitrarily determine what content is acceptable in the marketplace. Today it's a horror game with nuanced themes. Tomorrow it could be political satire or LGBTQ+ storytelling. If they decide something is “too much,” legal or not, they can quietly block it and cut off its distribution channels without accountability.

This isn't protection or morality enforcement—it’s corporate censorship by stealth, and it threatens creative freedom across the board.

If you’re comfortable with corporate censorship deciding what others can access, you’re free to ignore this post. This discussion is for those who value creative freedom and open access to content.

### United States
– DOJ Antitrust Division: report anticompetitive or content‑based financial censorship (justice.gov)
– Visa/Mastercard Interchange Fee Settlement: submit claims at paymentcardsettlement.com (deadline: Feb42025)

### Canada
– Competition Bureau: file complaints about monopoly or fee abuse (competitionbureau.gc.ca)
– FCAC: report unexplained blockages or unfair payment censorship

### United Kingdom
– Payment Systems Regulator (PSR): submit evidence on high fees or exclusionary rules
– Competition Appeal Tribunal: see ruling on interchange fee breach of competition law

### Latin America
– Chile (FNE): denuncias por censura financiera o prácticas monopólicas
– México (COFECE): denuncia abuso de mercado o tarifas excesivas
– Argentina (CNDC): presentar denuncia formal
– Colombia (SIC): reportar restricciones injustificadas en pagos

Thank you to everyone who genuinely cares about protecting creative freedom and standing against financial censorship.

Your voice matters. Every small action, post, report, or share helps push back against quiet corporate overreach.

Freedom of expression is not a given — it survives because people defend it.

Thank you for being one of those people.

>>8675721
>but you still need a plan B in case the financial parasites and governments tell you to get bent

Gelbooru just got deplatformed by Paypal

What do you fags even say on the phone? I'm thinking about calling them but I don't really have something to say. I was thinking about just calling them to say that this is just a complaint and that I think that it's annoying that I can't use my Mastercard to buy foreign games but don't really know where to go from there.

>>8676151
I haven't come across anything like that; it's probably your timeline and algo. But people need to understand that when it comes to being pro-free speech, you must be all in.

>>8676393
>People are in favor of it. The fucking current admin has support from half the country to do it if they want to. in less than 4 years every red state will have anti-porn laws.
I don’t know. National anti-porn bills have been shot down for decades because they're unconstitutional (not that there isn't a chance it may slip past at some point, but its' history isn't in favor of anti-porn fuckers as they think). Leaders and admins have always been hypocritical of such laws; very few, if none, come without a loophole. The reason they don't bother going after so many people is because it's too much effort and cops don't have resources to go after harmless drawings. Remember when the FBI told people to stop flooding their tip line with "ZOMG, THIS GUY DREW CHILD PORN"?.

>>8676993
In fairness, it took long enough for people to start waking up and flooding the CC call centers when it affected furries and LGBTBBQs. Besides, lefties are quick to backstab anybody who goes against their agenda with the slightest centrist opinion.

>>8677088
This site's got some handy blurbs. There isn't really any right or wrong answer, just waste their time as much as you can even if they hang up.
https://stop-paypros.neocities.org

>>8676652
Wero is just a fancy name for normal SEPA wire transfers. The only extra feature they (currently) have is that you give them your phone number and other people can find you by it. (Like Paypal does with your email)
But then, SEPA wire transfers are all you need. They work accross the all of the EU and the UK, you only need a bank account and there are less fees. It just isn't as comfortable to integrate into a web shop as the big Amerian payment providers. Most European companies have been offering SEPA transfers as a payment option for many years because credit cards weren't as widespread here.

>>8677091
I called and the operator knew exactly what I was calling for, and she said that their policy is under investigation, and I played dumb but was very polite and ended up hanging up after. D-did I contribute?

>>8677094
>It just isn't as comfortable to integrate into a web shop
but isn't that the whole point of Wero, to provide a similar service like Paypal but without that middleman, also without Wero most SEPA transfers took a day or more where you now get instant confirmation with it

>>8676151
>Everywhere you go you just see people making jokes "Le Goonercide! hyuk hyuk!"
Where do you see this? Most of the time I see people being negative about it. Basically, the most prevalent opinion I've seen is "yeah the content is trash and porn sucks but this is censorship and CC companies should not have the power to do this".

doesn't steam use stripe or am I wrong?

wero is the shittiest of them all imo

The most alternative solution, in my view, would be to severely punish this feminist group, which is clearly violating human rights by censoring these games and taking away our freedom of speech. In my country, Brazil, Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes was recently placed under the Magnitsky Act, as this gentleman is literally engaging in political persecution against right-wingers, especially our former president Jair Bolsonaro. A good idea would be for Trump to include the names of these activists, or the person responsible for creating Collective Shout in the Magnitsky Act, or to impose heavy sanctions against the Australian government to make them back down from their current scumbag ways, similar to what the American government is doing here in Brazil against these tyrants.

>>8675560 (OP)
Coomers are pathetic desu, you already lost this fight

>>8677387
>The most alternative solution
Cool, but the most alternative solution isn't the best solution. Punishing the feminist group of another for exercising their own right to speech by censuring the country they live in doesn't even fix the issue. You're suggesting targeted vengeance against a group, not a solution. What's to stop a different group from doing the same thing, especially if they don't care about the US, or can strongarm the US into not giving a shit? It's worked fine for the Saudis and Israelis all this time, after all; they're the reason PayPal forbids all pornographic related transactions.

The solution would be for the government to legally bind payment processors to not have the ability to curate any payments unless they are for out-and-out illegal transactions, referring those to an authority, ie the police. Responding to censorship with more censorship is a braindead idea that only justifies further arguments for banning "wrongthink" in the future.
"Let's show those feminists!" doesn't FIX the issue, it just kicks the can down the road, much like your country keeps doing chopping down their forests to make room for low-quality cattle to mulch into corned beef. Look for actual solutions, not harebrained and questionable international pissing matches that only serve to worsen the problem in the long run.

>>8676741
Indeed. White people are smart enough to know that censorship is actually a good thing.

>>8676856
>how is it retarded to say yeah this is bad for me it should probably be banned.
It's like hitting yourself in the face and expecting people not to consider you mentally ill.

>>8676393
It's so funny how this board pretended for years that it was da ebil leftists taking away your porn. Turns out that ONLY red states were in favor of implementing ID verification bullshit for porn while blue states rejected it, and now they're trying to implement KOSA to boot which is pretty much the american version of UK's OSA (which was also written and signed by the conservative party 2 years ago and the UK is now suffering for it). It's like these people seriously think conservatives aren't the most anti-porn people of all time.

https://xcancel.com/gelbooru/status/1950741569989902624

>>8676151
They need to take out something bigger than a few porn sites, H games, or Indie horror games to get better attention to the issue.
No one really cares about those, but if they end up doing something like hitting Baldur's Gate 3 for animal fucking then they will start caring.

I'm starting to see a bit of a hole in the market forming here. Feels to me like if there was a fancy new payment processor in town that would allow all sorts of content they sure wouldn't run out of businesses who'd need them. Some rich guy out there could make a whooooole lot of money on this.

Well, you have a point there. Maybe simply taking away another group's freedom of speech would only make things worse. I think the US government really needs to do something about these payment processors. They can't simply decide what we should or shouldn't buy; they merely mediate payments, nothing more. By the way, I'm completely against militant groups like these who value supposed "equality" but are ultimately a bunch of self-serving hypocrites. But anyways, if the solution isn't to silence them, then the best alternative would be for the Trump administration to intervene in the credit card companies altogether. I don't know if this is being discussed with him, but it's an issue that should be pushed. Aren't you Americans the ones who defend freedom of expression? Here in Brazil, there's a hell of a lot of censorship going on because of Lula's leftist government. We're increasingly moving towards Venezuela's side, and even European countries are doing the same. If the US pulls its strings, they can certainly prevent this censorship that is happening in games from happening again.

They are also trying to stigmatize/ostracize those who enjoy CLM media as well whether it be drawn, rendered or recorded with digital or analog video equipment.

>>8677774
>CLM
whats that

>>8677781
Child Love Media

>>8677787
oh so yet another new name for CP

>>8677417
how is it hitting myself in the face?

me and you are both smoking outside of a store. we both see a 10 year old go up and buy cigs. i go hmm yeah we should probably do more than just ask if someone is over 21. you response is OMG ARE YOU RETARDED??? YOU"RE SMOKING RN!!

only people into early porn exposure have a problem with ID laws

>>8675560 (OP)
>witnessing the start of a golden age of H-games
>payment processors skullfuck the whole genre
I can't believe it went this way

>>8677088
Calling Visa/MC is kinda useless imo since their callcenters have scripts to dismiss you anyway. I'd say mass-reporting them through these channels >>8677043 should be a better start.

>>8678015
both are good, overwhelm call centers to the point that their employees get tired of that shit and start complaining too. this is the perfect time to be the most annoying piece of shit karen.

>>8677108
Yep. Rinse and repeat. Like the guy above me said, if you want to fight the Karens, you gotta be a Karen.

>>8678312
>if you want to fight the Karens, you gotta be a Karen.
I really hate this but I might call again but just keep it polite and to the point. Say, "Hey, I'm just here to say that as a customer I find it very annoying to not be able to purchase legal games, and I just want to let you know. I apologize for consistently calling but that's all I wanted to say."
I hope my efforts aren't in vain but let's hope we can get this shit done so I can go back to fapping to I want to rape my sister while mom isn't home reloaded

>>8677688
>the best alternative would be for the Trump administration to intervene in the credit card companies altogether
They won't because they're also trying to find a way to ban porn entirely as a part of P2025. They'll support any restrictions on porn that the payment processors make.

>>8677140
Wero only has p2p transfers (for now). We'll see if and when they start offering APIs for businesses.
The instant transfer is not a Wero feature. It's called SEPA instant and guarantees confirmation within 10 seconds. Starting 2027 it's mandatory to be used by all banks.

>>8677343
> wero is the shittiest of them all imo
That's unwarranted tho.

>>8676739
And yet you're here. Curious.

Sup lads, do you guys know of anyone currently making a PR campaign against mastercard?

I doubt we'll get em to reconsider just because of our telephone pressure, but if we get the general public to think "Mastercard is censoring games and books", it'll get some attention.

Just make coomersoft free. Problem solved.

>>8677663
>I'm starting to see a bit of a hole in the market forming here.
You're underestimating how much competition there in this space. There already are a few alternatives to Visa and Mastercard, the problem is that a lot of payment processors don't take them.
But an even bigger problem in investing in this kind of thing is that this "hole" is likely shrinking, not growing. Your biggest market, the US, already has age verification laws in like a third of the country that are intentionally too burdensome for non-mega-corporations to enforce, so they have to do geoblocking instead. And it's only going to get worse from here, there's no sign that this is going to reverse course anytime soon.

>>8678704
so the actual hole that's opening is in the age verification, making that as seamless and painless as possible could be quite profitable

>>8677688
Bro, the republicans ARE the ones fully on board with censoring porn, that's why it's only republican states who have ID verification to enter fucking pornhub and Trump just signed a law that forbids people from making deepfake porn. It's only blue states who rejected that notion.

>>8678752
EU is already testing official apps for that. https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet
Wanting it to be seamless and painless is a policy decision that not all jurisdictions are on board with

>>8678765
at least then they have to drop the pretense that it's about protecting the children, which makes it a whole lot easier to fight

>>8678765
since that looks like it will stay EU-only there's still a pretty big market gap to fill for the rest of the world

because of all the different laws it would need so many market-specific adjustments though, eventually

change.org
https://chng.it/FqyLwSfRry

I love black bar/Pixel etc. hentai censors. Totally censoring the whole thing will just me make organism. Its a win win.

>>8678015
>https://x.com/MastercardNews/status/1951280013799510020
seems like its actually working, they are afraid.

>>8676754
>Censorship is good
Nah, people SHOULD say whatever goes through their heads and have NO privacy whatsoever. It makes it easier for capitalist surveillance and the frumentarii to read people’s minds.

So basically this, huh

>>8679621
What does Leo Messi have to do with all this xd?

>>8675560 (OP)
There's five threads about this already, you fucking retard. And I bet you made all of them.

Visa and Mastercard refuse to operate in certain countries that are hated by (((them))).

How come you're quiet about it? It's almost as if you're a virtue signaling piece of shit aka a hypocrite.

Someone needs to find the Network Operation Center/NOC phone numbers to call for the payment processors because calling the normal customer service lines doesn't have as much of an impact.

>>8675560 (OP)
I'm too afraid to call, but I can give you a few videos that describe the situation.
1.(explains how they got us) The collapse of the american dream explained in animation, YT link: /watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM
2.(explains the taboo kinks, their main weapon) A World Of Unusual Sexual Orientations, YT Link /watch?v=vqdlv3qEuyY
3. (explains how censorship in Japan hapened) The Cartoon History Of Tentacle Erotica, YT link: /watch?v=ue_KO_Xhi9o
I hope I did not break any rules, this is my first and maybe last time posting here. Spread the word if it was useful.

>>8675560 (OP)
Calling Visa and Mastercard 1-2 times a week. Used AI to find numbers to call. Keep at it brothers!

>>8679950
Drink a couple beers for courage

>>8679950
Hanging in the Mastercard robot menu is actually very easy and you don't have to talk to a human.

Just keep the call open, Mastercard pays the bill for this. If you are international even better because the phone bill is even bigger.

Mastercard pays theYR phone bill.

I just cancelled two of my mastercards(don't use them anyway) and the linked paypal account. I kept my black card as it is still my primary method of doing purchases(for now).
What else can I do?
Move to American Express?

>>8680333
Amex isn't any better. The only reason they're escaping scrutiny right now is because they've been restrictive all along.
If you're in the US, your best options are abroad. The problem with any US-based credit card provider is that they're subject to US laws. The US is moving toward banning porn, and US companies are reading the tea leaves

Didn't Visa get hit with a monopoly lawsuit a while back?

>>8680384
God I hate this fucking country so fucking much.

>>8680802
it's ok, it hates you too

>>8677038
Worst case scenario there is a way to work around it with voucher systems or offsite patches like the japanese do.

>>8677108
called mastercard. "you probably know why i'm calling, so instead of whatever you do why don't you go hit the can, i'll wait here till you get back."

"HELLO SAAAR"

"Well at least it's not a fucking clanker."

>>8677957
..or, yknow, people who know the first goddamn thing about information security.

>>8680384
>The US is moving toward banning porn
Not even the recent SC ruling upholding age verification is suggesting that is even in the realm of possibility anytime soon

>>8676236
>"We want a way to buy our goods without someone telling us what we can and can't spend money on."
What about censorship resistant peer to peer payment technology?
>"No, not that! My wife's boyfriend got scammed because he bought high and sold low, so I would never use it! CNN even did a report about how the planet is being burned alive by crypto mining!"

>>8675560 (OP)
jfl. the creditcard board members are emotional hags freaking out about porn and exposing the power curtain that has been invisible for decades - all to take out irrelevant gooners who make up less than a fraction of the world's population. mastercard and visa showing how activism functions: civilians with no power protest, do little, and then those same tactics are used to destabilize governments or proxy agendas (collective shout, sweet baby inc, etc). the trojan horse of democracy. collective shout was done so poorly its hard not to notice.

We need a massive movement 4 chan has wars against other sites in the past we need a big alliance of all internet and put a stop. If we block 1 day all pays with Visa/Mastercad the will surrender.some ideas to do this?

>>8680930
>so instead of whatever you do why don't you go hit the can, i'll wait here till you get back.
pretty much what I do is tell them to go take a bathroom break as my goal is to tie up the lines not give the underpaid workers a hard time.

>>8681606
not your personal army, fuck off faggot.

>>8681612
Dont need to be rude Is only an idea we are in te same team right now