Thread 8681447

tongue out edition

Previous Thread: >>8674647

>LOCAL UI
reForge: https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples
Training: https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hgg-op/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/om5a99.png

n-word

>>8681114
>demo on hf doesn't work

e-word

>>8681447 (OP)
i removed https://rentry.org/59xed3 from this op because it doesn't deserve to be there

>>8681457
the diffusers sample code is easy to run on your h100 after you fix the bugs in it

>>8681472
Too much information?

>>8681476
>Edit: 18 Aug 2023 11:52 UTC
this pile of crap is almost 2 years old at this point

>cant even reach the image limit
local is dead

>>8681480
Stop seething and go dilate. You'll feel better afterwards.

>>8681478
That we have other options now doesn't mean it's bad, It still works just as well as it did back then.

what caused the decline?

(You)

>>8681484
dude, read what it says about sdxl:
>I found how to train and run SDXL in my hardware, so started a SDXL section here.
>There seem to be some limitations about training the text encoder. At the moment training will not start if learning rate for TE is not equal to zero.
>Training on SDXL 1.0 and using an anime model to generate gave better results than generating from the same anime model and I cannot explain why.
and the rest was written for the nai leak, it doesn't explain anything about vpred, almost always it's literally bullshit which isn't correct even for 1.5.
>AnyLoRA is a new checkpoint designed to train from.
>The effects of min_snr_gamma seem a bit more interesting when using Prodigy, it seems to become a sort of multiplicative scale for the dynamic learning rate. Lower values will have lower loss (and therefore learn more aggressively), while higher values have higher loss (less resemblance to training set).
>flip_aug Randomly flips images horizontally. Useful anytime, unless your character is heavily asymmetrical. Like that guy from Street Fighter III.
go rewrite it if you will. like i said, it doesn't deserve to be in the op. this shit is completely outdated and full of wrong advice, and the only distinctive quality of it is that it indeed works "just as well" as in 2023, i.e. as shit. it wastes everyone's time, and the ones pushing for it to be in the op are actively harming any productive discussion (likely trolls hiding under "it worked back in the day!" banner or completely ass blown brainlet retards).

>>8681496
Is that le hecking SHINDOL?

I fucking hate how much effect some samplers have over the style

>op
lilbro thinks anybody here needed to read that in the last seventy years

Is there a PussyDetailer?

>>8681558
it's called only masked inpainting

>>8681558
yes

>>8681577
Best girl

fucking jej
anyway making a wildcard for my artist loras was a good idea
i always used to only use the few of the top ones otherwise
>>8681582
she is
although i want emi to sit on my face

>>8681527
dpm++2sa is all you need brother

>>8681594
alright, I'll bite, how many steps and CFG?

>>8681595
cfg 5 and 30 steps m8
tis the best I've seen
sgm uniform

hoyl shit we are back?

>>8681597
hmmm fine, I'll do some gens with it to see how it goes

>>8681602
post results

>>8681602
nta, but i've used that sampler/scheduler combo and noticed a modest improvement in quality over euler/none but it seems slightly slower.

>>8681687
>seems slightly slower
It's 2x slower than eurler by definition.

>>8681692
I'm on a 5090 so the difference is slight :^)

>>8681694
Yes 2x1=1+1

align your steps

align your bussy to my mouth fag

imagine using eps slop

vpred sissy can't handle 5 minutes of photoshop

just pick up the pencil lil vro

>still continuing the /hdg2/ meme
Lil nigga, this general died around #13 once the 3 trannies in /hdg/ got bored posting to themselves and tabbed over. Just let it rest.

aight but stay gone will ya

>>8681838
that's one serious period

>>8681838
What is this? Huanyun or whatever? Wan isn't this coherent.

>>8682041
>Wan isn't this coherent.
It is after the release of 2.2

>>8682044
So I guess everyone does img2vid then. Text2img looks pretty mid, especially at 480, which is why I gave up on it. Plus i have to use comfy...

>>8682045
I do image2vid but apparently t2v got a big upgrade too. I recommend giving 2.2 a try with the kiji workflow (or the modified version in the ldg OP).

Those gens from last thread made me remember this one kek

>>8682045
is vid2vid also a thing? I wanna edit some povs to make the dick smaller

Fuck man I can't believe people are still paying hundreds of dollars for a single pic with pov crotch, cowgirl, black background. Art style aside, unless you have some pathological (mental illness) hatred of AI why would you even do this to yourself? It was bullshit back in the day but necessary since no one would draw your super special waifu without a commission but now now it's just absurd.

>>8682082
i think your view of ai images is pretty skewed
half the people here were doing this for years and still produce slop, it's not that simple to start
and that's assuming any kind of significant population percentage owns these kinds of gpus for this

>>8682083
>i think your view of ai images is pretty skewed
I could agree with that but come on. I don't want to be rude so I don't want to link to the post but 1girl, standing, gachaslut or 1girl, pov, doggystyle is the easiest of things my guy. I mean really. I got into AI a couple years ago because I just wanted to make portraits for my textgen cards so that type of stuff is entry level to me.
>still produce slop
I hate the term slop only because it's nebulous now. If AI bros get shit on because he didn't do "interesting composition" then why are drawfags getting $100 per commission for the same shit?
>gpus
Even the free generators at pixai are good enough if all you want is pov or 1girl standing.

>>8682085
if you want to see what the average newfag gens just get on the sd or novelai subreddits, alls im saying
like i said it's easy to say haha easy when you have years under your belt (and an aesthetic sense that most people do not kek)

>>8682085
>If AI bros get shit on because he didn't do "interesting composition" then why are drawfags getting $100 per commission for the same shit?
Because if you do a mediocre image using the slopmachine you are a retard, if a based carbon organism do it then is true art that carries on a meaningful and soulful message across the unperfect lines that made them
You wouldn't get it, chud :^)

>>8682089
You say this as if I can't just look through my own folders and find my early shit kek. This is what I was doing back on novelai when I started. Basic pov has always been easy, the problem we had was broken anatomy and such with people made fun of us for. That stuff is a thing of the past now, but when a drawfag does the same thing people still swoon? It's not even about the artist, but about the customer. What person is happy to pay $100 something this straightforward?

>>8682084
nice very yellow

>>8682098
You jest but I had someone say basically this on a thread on /g/. I was complaining that objectively bad art is art with bad anatomy but he just couldn't agree since "soulfulness" is valid regardless of "mistakes." And of course hand drawn art is always soulful.

>>8682099
i don't know what else to tell you
we developed the system of exchanging goods for services for a reason lmao
most people don't want to spend hours getting to know stuff to gen slop that still looks like shit (objectively)
you can say the same about idk, cooking, lol lmao normies pay 50$ for someone to spend 14 minutes searing a piece of meat on a pan loll

>>8682102
This is something I have also talked with ""real"" artists and friends alike, people shit on the atrocious things most sloppers do but there is people out there picking up a pencil to do even more disgusting and vile things

does whoever that made this lurk here? Got it off the latest elf thread on /v/ and figured it would have metadata since I got it from a catbox link, but no luck.
Any loras/prompts for replicating this style with pony or illustrious?

>>8682105
this is why I never questioned why people are happy to sub to patron sloppers, for the price of 1 nai sub you can sub to like 5 of them and get hundreds of images per week instead of bothering yourself, good deal if you have no interest in it

>>8682118
It's obviously edited so there wouldn't be any metadata, assuming someone didn't just draw that himself.

>>8682085
>I hate the term slop only because it's nebulous now
There's a difference between a bad picture and a bad AI picture, AI still looks "good" to normies when it's a raw prompt in WAI with melted eyes. So the issue comes from two groups using the term to mean different things.

>>8682085
>I hate the term slop
I like that 4chan chuddy talk got popular over the entire internet.

>>8682137
Yeah even the late night comedians use the term AI slop now.

>>8682118
>>8682129
Oh yeah, also you can get pretty far with the traditional media tag and murata range, assuming you're using a proper 2d model like 102d or 291h

>>8682127
Think its just funnier then that all the top content creators for that and AI slop are all just doing blacked porn with the same artists on like the popular waifus.

>>8682148
it ain't that different with f95 slop
i swear 90% of the fetish games are piss and shit and cuckolding

>>8682159
NTR is #1 on dlsite too.

>>8682148
the biggest one I've seen doesn't do blacked (balecxi, 2k patrons) but it is the most common and a fairly safe bet though

>>8682160
i've almost given up on looking for interesting games

>>8682148
if it's not broken ...

>>8682177
Yeah nothing good is made anymore. The only thing I'm patently waiting for is kunoichi botan 2 but afterward I probably won't go back to dlsite.

>>8682178
Yeah cant fault the player just hate the game
>pay $25 for nai sub
>steal someone's popular csr shitmix
>post blackd waifu content from drawpolls
>make easy $1k+ a month just doing nothing basically
Actual life hacks

>>8682179
On f95 especially it's just your 1000th serving of v0.001 renpy/gamemaker slop that will never get finished and requires a phd to understand
and i think most of the people making those don't really get the fetishes they're doing kek, i assume it's part audience begging and part trying to capture the market

>>8682182
Why would I sub to nai when I could just make a lora?

>>8682195
to make a nai lora

>>8682147
>102d or 291h
what models are these?

>>8682197
Why would I make a nai lora when I can just get 50 pics of his art from kemono?

>>8682194
>it's just your 1000th serving of v0.001 renpy/gamemaker slop that will never get finished
WEG starter pack what a joke. Thank god I can just make my own text adventure games with AI now if I have an interesting idea. Can even gen pics on the side too.

>>8682203
I remember when people said AI will make hentai game devving so much easier and common but it turned out people just don't know how to write well or program kek

>>8682195
For the 90% of 3rd worlders who can't afford a computer. But yeah just making a lora on their shitmix is the cheaper play I guess

>>8682199
Models not in the OP despite the faggot seething about loras. But since you got dubs.
https://civitai.com/models/1201815?modelVersionId=1491533
https://civitai.com/models/1301670/291h

>>8682206
The issue is people trying to do everything themselves. Whether it's an artfag getting into games or a gamedev trying to make his own art, they're both wasting time doing things someone else is much better at. Although wasting time is actually beneficial on Patreon.

I do see a lot of porn games coming out now with AI art, but 95% of them use the checkpoint's default artstyle and don't spend any effort on the pics beyond just writing the prompt, and a generic one at that.

>>8682295
>and a generic one at that
The amount of effort it takes to find a unique style is quite substantial, especially when most places don't share prompts. I can understand using the model's default style if the anatomy is good and I wouldn't fault anyone for that. It's not like drawfags are that much different. The pics from porn games for the past two decades have been very generic (with the exception of some VNs) so it's not like it really matters. What you need is an interesting plot with well written characters, then art that meets the minimum required to be appealing and you're golden. That was MGQ.

>>8682321
I meant a generic prompt, but yeah style too. People immediately recognize AOMslop as AI, and it has negative connotations for good reason. Shows he either doesn't know what he's doing or didn't put in any effort.

Trying to find an example but I didn't save any of those games.

>>8682321
it's literally a singe lora
sloppas just fullheartedly recommend wai to everyone and half of these retards use ((BUTIFUL MASTERPIECE)) with it
>>8682325
my favorite was the one that used melty 1.5 eyes as a banner

>>8682334
I'm talking about artist mixing not using CSR like everyone else.
>>8682325
Idk anon. I imagine a base wai image with decent colors but a good story/interesting character would actually turn out fine. Anyone using sd1.5 right now is obviously retarded.

>>8682336
artist mixing is even worse slop
but nobody tells you to use csr
just get some cgs and voila you get a good base style that isn't wai disgusting fucking slop like all these vns

I want to train a Lora to use with Illustrious - what settings are people using in 2025? I flicked through some Loras but was a bit overwhelmed since it lists everything and not everything is named the same thing between the info page and OneTrainer's input fields. My old settings didn't capture the style of the input images (of a character) as closely as I wanted (but did with Pony):
>AdamW
>Cosine
>LR 0.0004
>28 epochs (?)
>bfloat16 everywhere
>Rank 64, Alpha 32 ('weight data type' is f32 rather than bf16 for this I guess)
>a whole bunch of other fields that may or may not be important

>>8682349
That's usually an advantage, not capturing style in a character lora.

is there's something better enough for me to bother switching from this?:
>NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v1.0-perpendicular-cyberfix-v2.safetensors

>>8682353
look at the cyber checkpoint it's merged with
then switch to >>8682286

>>8682362
thanks. i am a bit retarded
i should get the first one right?

I don't like 102D. It looks sloppy compared to base noob, yet I keep using it because it's so stable and still looks less awful than all other shitmixes

>>8682352
I'm looking to capture both - I've also come across some loras of characters where the output looks like it's from the show which is cool

>>8682372
Yeah thats where I'm at with custom. Ive tried other ones and they're super saturated, oily, some stuff doesn't work then I just come crawling back. Think I've tried like 30+ at this point and still come back.

>>8682367
either one

>>8682353
>NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v1.0-perpendicular-cyberfix-v2.safetensors
If you are getting what you want you should keep using it, it's not that bad

ah we get the pretend newfag bait this day

>>8682348
>The amount of effort it takes to find a unique style is quite substantial
>oh it's just a lora bro
>just use SD/comfy bro
>just make a lora bro
These are obviously easy things for us but to newfags who just need a couple pngs for their game it's a big ask. It makes perfect sense that they would just use the base style and call it a day, if not just a one of those online generators (since SDXL costs credits while 1.5 is free on those). Even the literal comment below you proves my point.

>>8682379
thanks
>8682387
ancientfag more like
i just don't keep up anymore
>>8682381
nah, might as well download those two and try, thanks

>>8682381
Was this done with the gradient technique in CN?

>>8682392
I have seen that tech before but, no, it was just my usual workflow on reforge
>good base gen -> hires fix -> inpaint
if you wanted to know how the setting was made, it was just pure prompt
>https://files.catbox.moe/sjferb.png

>>8682393
Box that one too I have a booger of a time with framing for reflection selfies

>>8682393
How did you get the lighting where you wanted it? Draw on the image and inpaint?

>>8682397
Yeah sure
>https://files.catbox.moe/89ygt6.png

>>8682404
Just a lucky roll I guess, I didn't do anything extreme, maybe tweak the prompt a few times but that's it, wish I have it but the very base gen already had that lighting effect on it

>>8682408
Guess I should spend more time doing chiaroscuro then...

>>8682435
>>8682439
>>8682451
thoughts?

>>8682462
kill yourseferino with this general migrating shitposting

>>8682464
it's not shitposting if it's about killing off comfyui. what kind of features should be in?

>>8682469
fuck. off.

>>8682462
I don't really understand. Just don't use comfy? That new chinese image model is actually pretty good but no one has the skill or hardware to finetune it properly.

>>8682470
why? I want input from people that use SD to make hentai for a UI that isn't a bloated pile of shit

>>8682480
my input is fuck off

>>8682478
the issue is the UI ecosystem is only comfyui at this point since auto and it's forks are dead or practically dead

>>8682484
If an actual useable model comes out, the geniuses at forge will appear to save us. The problem is not on the UI front but on the model front. Don't really care about videogen since it's pretty mid now. Maybe next year we'll be at google veo3 level.

>>8682462
comfy has almost 3 years of development, community backing and funding behind it. too fucking late to bother with trying to displace him, everyone knew he's a faggot since the beginning but that didn't stop people from adapting cumrag

>>8682492
>comfy has almost 3 years of development, community backing and funding behind it.
too bad it's even shittier than a year ago. corpo enshitification completely ruined everything and gives a lot of room for someone else to pick up the slack. it's fucking python too so it's not like it's hard to catch up for someone with the knowhow

>>8682492
if the community moves elsewhere it would die. just need something that doesn't run like shit to take it's place

anyon until you make a demo to show you know what you're doing why should anybody not shit on you
99% of users are comfy (ha) on what they use, whether it's comfy or forge

>>8681447 (OP)
has anyone noticed more artist on civit ai putting their loras behind patreon paywalls?

>>8682501
why are you so passionate about a shitty UI that keeps getting shittier?

>>8682504
i don't use comfyui
i just dislike you

>>8682506
ok and didn't ask. what kind of UI would you prefer?

>>8682507
i already use the ui i prefer bro
that's right cocksucka, go back to new jersey

>>8682507
something not jeetscript or python

comfy won

if you're not using a reforge commit from 10 months ago you've fucked up(or are on ayyyyMD or something, which is its own type of fuck up)

>>8682513
nah, we reached a turning point. the only way left is down for that garbage

>>8682517
too big to fail

>>8682525
more like too big to debloat kek

>>8682517
comfyui is exactly where auto was when it was too big to manage even with many contributors working on it. comfyui dies next year screencap this

>forks over with some minor changes
>here's to 3 more years
truly over for comfy

>>8682286
thank you!

>>8682334
Here's the intro image to some korean LN I snagged off nyaatorents

>>8682503
No because everyone should learn to cook rather than depend on doordash. If you starve you have only yourself to blame.

extreme cringe

>>8682554
You are just very retarded.

I am a LoRA baker, I am an individual, therefore I can make my own, custom, professional loras and I don't need to rely on stupid civitai balers like all the mindless sheep around me. I am intellectually superior.

>add "dark, night"
>image gets brighter

>>8682566
Would you say you're euphoric?

>>8682102
>>8682117
when you put a line down on paper and leave it there, regardless of how it looks, you chose to leave it like that, every single addition was curated up to the final product, and your choices for what you left in or focused on is itself a form of communication to others about your own existence, which is why there is no such thing as 'objectively bad art with bad anatomy' as artists intentionally use 'bad anatomy' all the time for aesthetics and design, you cannot even define 'good anatomy' without excluding a great many things you probably think are not 'objectively bad'

if you slop you are gambling on a slot machine until you don't care enough to continue, the only thing you have curated is the final image and possibly some edits, everyone in the world has the ability to go make something almost identical with the same effort since the output was purely tool-based, not your own creativity, and the tools are public, and in the end you communicate as much about yourself as you would picking your avatar on a website, which is to say some surface level interest, and that is why nobody is looking at the same gen more than a handful of times, every image has a built in expiration date, you would rather gen something new with the new shiny tools that make 'better' outputs than look at what already exists

what is hard to comprehend about the difference here and why someone, especially a connoisseur, would prefer or attribute higher value to the former over the latter

thinking of baking some character loras on shitty 2010 flash sex anims

>>8682587
tl;dr
>mass sloppers bad, effortchads good

>>8682576
>add "bedroom"
>every image is now gigacontrasted halfnight

>>8682598
it has nothing to do with effort, in fact i believe i more or less implied the opposite

>>8682566
Yes.

:skull:

better model this better ui that
give me a better lama-cleaner model bwah

>>8682587
I don't need to read any of this to prove you wrong. If you're claiming that people in art school don't need to learn to draw human anatomy on nudes and anything they spit on the page is fine because they chose to do so, you're retarded.

bwo responding to a post with empty newlines on 4chan :skullerino:

>>8682607
i never said that, you're retarded, on top of having unintentionally revealed that you have never actually created art nor exist around people who do so professionally

>>8682616
>there is no qualitative difference between a child's drawing and a michaelangelo painting
>there is no qualitative difference between a child banging on a piano and a beethoven piece
>there is no qualitative difference between autistic screeching and celene dion's magnum opus
>there is no qualitative difference between a child's scribbles on the page an shakespeare
>there's no skill involved at all so no one can call one objectively better than the other
You, the fool desperately trying to defend the artist without being one, are the one that's watering down the meaning of art. I don't care what you said, I'm saying my point is that there is a such thing as objectively good art and that begins with good anatomy for painting, timbre for music, and internal consistency for writing.

samefag

where

what's flux

>>8682668
u use it for soldering

>accidentally overwrote my scraper script
>can't photorec it
>didn't save on other disk
great :<

>>8682632
none of that has anything to do with what i said, you should consider not talking if you have nothing to actually say, it's primarily a waste of your own time and you clearly need that so you can study anatomy more so you can objectively determine whether or not the collection of shapes in front of you is good or not

>>8682673
You should consider not replying to me if your reply has nothing to do with mine since I started the comment chain to begin with. Enjoy your broken fingers and backwards arms "high art" anon.

>>8682676
it did have everything to do with it, but you said you didn't read it, so maybe you should get started on that whole
>internal consistency for writing.
thing, maybe you're focusing a bit too much on anatomy? time to switch to writing for a while

why is zhir talking to himself?

>>8682698
That's my wife's next outfit, thanks. Just need a name besides dongtan dress.

>>8682295
I still don't get how a cooming has such a low (non v0.0.0.0.1) game output despite half the internet having it as their personality
but i guess jerking off doesn't take skill

>>8682700
What do you mean?

>>8682708
What's that dress called in real life? I'll probably just end up asking AI.

>>8682713
>What's that dress called in real life?
No idea bro, I just looked up the tag on danbooru to give me ideas
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/dongtan_dress?z=2

>>8682718
Well yeah, but that's what I mean by my comment is all. I know dongtan dress is the tag but surely it has a real name.

>>8682587
Every inpaint I make is curated up to the final product, and my choices for what I left in or focused on is itself a form of communication to others about my own existence.
Now GTFO, 50iq retard. Can't wait for machines to replace 4chan posters too. Bunch of imbeciles.

>Can't wait for machines to replace 4chan posters too. Bunch of imbeciles
lilbro is so clueless

anyone know what checkpoint that sondo guy uses/artist mix

>>8682742
I will just assume it's yet another patreon grifter so I will tell you that if xe has enough pictures with xis style you can just train a lora for it

>>8682733
you do not choose what you are adding beyond gambling for tokens so you cannot be communicating about yourself through it except incidentally, nor are you curating anything on the level of individual brush or pen strokes but instead something vastly closer to 'only the final product plus some edits', nice attempt at weaseling your way into the leagues of artists though
>if i gen 128 tiles of a complete image i curated just as much as an artist did!!
>man thinks drawing a selection in photoshop and clicking content aware fill is a personal expression that says anything about him other than he used content aware fill
well...actually, maybe you are simple enough that doing that communicates a lot about you. lmfao

So uhh... hentai?

what is blonde twink doing in india?

this is your brain on 4chan

>>8682778
NIGGERS arent hentai

>>8682786
There's orcs on /h/ right now doe??

>>8682761
Maybe I do fret about every single brush stroke, what do you know about me? I can go as low level as I want to, I have photoshop at my disposal. Oh wait, digital artists are also not real artists, right?
It doesn't matter though. Humans are bugs, and your professional circle(jerk) are a bunch of bugs thinking too highly of themselves. The very top artists and artworks, just like the very top scientists and scientific inventions (my professional circle) seem godlike only from perspective of similar bugs like you and me. "Human expression" is nothing more than using your superior intelligence to min-max your monkey brain's pleasure circuits. But the intelligence is not going to stay superior for too long. And you'll see it for yourself in the future, machines will be better at everything, both science AND art.
You will be nostalgic about times when you had to argue with "AI artists" that using brush is superior to pushing buttons. Both will be irrelevant. Human expression will not be able to compete no matter the tool.
You WILL bow before machine. It will create things you never imagined possible. In every single field. You will see how your "inner world" and your "personal experiences that make art real and human" will be trumped into dirt because it will all be too basic compared to what machines create. Like a bug to a human. Except you are the bug. And I'm sorry you are too dim to even prepare yourself for that, because it will hit you and your professional butt buddies hard.

>>8682778
No, I am doing edgy shit rn

>>8682794
pwoof?

lil bro really thinks hes a content aware fill artisan and wrote all that

>>8682793
@grok can you summarize this

>>8682798
After you check these digits!

>3mins to gen
fuck my 4090 is too weak for this...

>>8682796
Sadly I can't post it directly this time
>https://files.catbox.moe/0apbi6.png

>>8682825
No catbox? I don't even know how you get extreme low angles like this without drawing. Nice pantyshot though.

>>8682826
No metadata*

>>8682826
This is base gen
>https://files.catbox.moe/gap37m.png

>>8682829
Hmm maybe stepped on is doing the work here then. Thanks.

nigga-san!

>>8682206
There are plenty of good hentai games on Japanese dlsite, its just English-speakers who are hopeless at making good porn

>>8682830
And pantyshot more than likely. Upskirt has a strong influence on perspective fro my experience.

>>8682706
Once you have the porn assets, putting them into a game only serves to drip-feed it as a progress reward instead of giving access to everything right away. The game portion rarely adds anything to the porn, just story context.

Any advances for local in the past 2 months?

>>8683014
try in two years

Any good loras for x-ray rimjobs?

>>8682826
>worm's eye view, from below,
First one is an e621 tag that has some weighting now its mileage varies depending which side of noob / illustrious you're on

>>8683081
do you happen to know which models lean hardest into which boorus' tagging systems? havent been using image gen models much since around the time people were excited to try out flux / leave pony for original illustrious, downloaded WAI v14 the other day which seems to be the current popular model (though shit on ITT? not sure if it's contrarianism or WAI is today's AOM) but open to be shilled whatever as a base. I tend to find or make crappy little loras for really specific stuff I want anyway, so when i make trash it's my own fault not the model's.

>>8683094
>which models lean hardest into which boorus' tagging systems
It's not like that. illustrious doesn't recognize e621 tags, only noobAI does and the later your version the better it is at both boorus simply by having more training done, ending with v-pred 1.0. Pony is the only one to recognize R34 tags (and Derpibooru, if you're into that) and knows e621 but its Danbooru knowledge is lacking, and most artists were hashed from each.

Most people use merged models and not the base, and those are usually some amalgamation of both illustrious and noob, plus either Pony, lesser checkpoints or loras all at various ratios. So you can never be sure without testing how much knowledge your model has retained from each boru.

>>8683106
>>8683094
Also later editions are so fried its got burned in style that fucks with artist tags anyway. But yeah its later noob models that will have more e621 so just have to find those types of shit mixes

How do you deal with Noob's horrible saturation choice?

>>8683106
thank you for the comprehensive reply, good to know danbooru tagging's always a pretty safe bet at the moment. i also didn't realise illu/noob were entirely separate streams, for some reason i thought noobai was an illustrious fork/merge (and i tend to dismiss frequently hopping merges as largely placebo/cope or at least minor enough improvements that i just pick an okay one and stick with it until there's an insanely obvious improvement forcing me off it, similar to picking a single scheduler or step count so i can focus on varying prompt/tags/loras).

>>8683094
>not sure if it's contrarianism or WAI is today's AOM
WAI is the "it just works" model best for people genning on Civitai who have limited rolls. Or who lack patience, or who don't mind the limitations, or who need reliability for wildcarding Patreon slop.

The limitations; it is primarily illustrious with only small bits of noob so knowledge is overall weaker. Many people use character loras where a noob-based wouldn't need one, same goes for artists and concepts. Its shiny AOM-adjacent style seeps into everything. Which might actually help a bit but usually hurts, depends on what you're currently doing style-wise. It's easy to prompt for "very awa, shiny skin" and quality negs when you do want it on other models, but it's impossible to remove from WAI itself. It also mellows out some more extreme bodytypes like Porforever and various chibis, Raita titty skeletons, Zankuro fatties, canvas solaris, melon22, and so on, biases towards common compositions, reduces seed variability across all prompts, is incapable of night/dark scenes, and more.

>>8683127
Noob forked off of illustrious0.1, which most merges are also based on when they claim illustrious. The later illustrious line models just weren't very good.

>>8683121
Can you point out some specific artists? From what I've tried v-pred 1.0 got everything more accurate than previous base models. Especially visible in the low 100 image counts.

>>8683094
>>8683127
nta but basically any mix you will find on civit is actually noob (most likely noob eps 1.0/1.1) despite being called illustrious, even waiNSFW "illustrious". Try genning with only e621 tags to verify, but the later versions do mix in some illustrious 1.0/1.1/2.0 for whatever reason

>>8683130
ta, I tested WAI v13 and the knowledge was there (and didn't come from merging in Pony) but it was very weak, felt like it was still primarily illustrious but added a little bit of noob to the mix.

>>8683123
base noob? you need to use a lora or two for stabilize it

>>8683123
Her eyes are purple? I thought they were blue.

>>8683123
what happened to bro's neck

So, nai made their v2 model public. Did that affect the custom models in any way?

>>8683168
No one even remembered v2 at release. Why would it help anyone now?

>>8683172
Because it's a model made by actual professionals and ML researchers with the full support of Stability AI instead of some random chink on illegal hardware?

>>8683174
A shit model declared a failure by its creators is somehow good because of the people who made it? Do you know what ad hominem is?

>>8683157
or CFG rescale, CFG++ or simply keeping CFG low
or prompt an artist that is not "very awa"

>>8683181
yeah that also works

>>8683159
Bros neck and his goon arm his elbow is touching the bed

>>8683178
Was v2 declared a "failure"? Pretty sure it was a test run of their new dataset before they cooked it on sdxl. It was actually pretty good for a 1.5 model.

>>8683174
>v2 was so bad it was completely skipped over for v3
Also multiple times nai devs have said as much they're cavemen, I'm convinced nobody actually knows what they're doing in this space and just get lucky or have enough compute power to make their own luck

>>8683190
Doesn't it have zero artist knowledge?

>>8683204
Nah it knows artists, just doesn't reproduce them very well. You can try something obvious like zankuro and see that it works.

hmmm... sepia

>>8683158
Yeah it was a leftover tag for other character that i forgot to delete, good catch.

>>8683157
>>8683181
Thanks will try later.

>>8683159
I'm still one week into this, anon. Haven't learned anything about fixing details yet

>>8683194
i mean yeah
it's a literal blackbox
u either have the cash to throw a shit at it or you don't

>>8682878
We know

>>8683194
OpenAI's open weights model proves that it's just brute forcing. At least the bullshit they release to the public is, anyway.

>>8683209
nyoce

>>8682879
sup A
>>8683229
huh?

>>8683209
Daaamn bitch, how do you fall asleep face down on a heated grill??

>>8681603
>>8681687
So I have done a few full gens with those setting and personally didn't see any improvement over the general quality of my gens, I noticed it's more "creative" than what I was using but that's it
About the same gen speed too

Also has anyone tried this one?
>https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/PixelOE
This guy uses it and seems pretty decent
>https://x.com/shimamuraa11451/media

>>8683379
Its just img2img pixelization right? Pixel as a prompt works pretty well too

>>8683394
>Pixel as a prompt works pretty well too
Yeah I know, I have done things like that before but I want better results, see this for example
>https://x.com/shimamuraa11451/status/1878227320722391547/photo/1
Way better blacks than mine using the Pixelize extension on reforge

>>8683398
Is it a separate line item use or an img2img thing could be fun maybe to fuck with specially with video gen cause I love pixel animated porn it feels so soul

>>8683394
pixel as a prompt produces "pixels" that are not all square nor all the same size

Hmmmmm should have probably replicated that she's looking at the dude and not in space. Whatever, toooooo lazy now.

>>8683431
She's not looking at the dude in the original either.

>>8683431
and the lowered eyelids

I wonder what his issue is though, it's not just WAI but some other kind of melt on top, not overly high CFG either

when looking for artists to use in prompts remember to check all aliases as well

>>8683331
there's no way dpm2sa is "about the same gen speed" compared to euler a since it does 2 passes. It's 2x by definition. But yeah when I did my tests it was arguably better if you're the type of person to squint. Might not be worth the gen times for people without 24gb however.

>>8683461
>there's no way dpm2sa is "about the same gen speed" compared to euler a
I was using ER SDE with 50 steps anonie :)

>>8683462
Ok let me try that one.

>>8683461
nta but other 2-pass samplers only need half as many steps to converge as regular ones do, so the actual time taken is the same
doesn't that also apply here?

>>8681594
Is it on updated reforge I haven't pulled since he dropped it and I guess now hes re-dropped it

>>8683462
Ok after a few short tests it looks noticeably different. I don't want to do grids man...
>>8683469
dpm++2sa is ancestral so it doesn't converge right? On a few short tests 15 steps looks about the same as 30.
>>8683475
It's an ancient sampler bro. it's been there since the old days.

>>8683479
>I don't want to do grids man...
Don't do it, we have done this 3 times already, I just wanted to try out something different on my usual config but turns out there is not much of it
Keep genning

foru me it's DPM++ 2M SDE Comfy

Euler A Aligned Steps is all you need

rmao

Man I remember the days when everyone use to shit on /sdg/ because they were snobby elitists, then come to /hdg/ and get actual help from friendly people. Now this place looks like a bombed out disaster and /ldg/ actually has helpful guides in the OP and friendly people. What happened bros? Through dick, unity?

Can you retards fix your goddamn bots already

>>8683529
can you go back to scamming about muh totally new ui already

I mean if people are complaining about old lora info in the OP, why can't we put our heads together and write something simple for new people that might come here? Why can't we have some basic resources people can read so they're not all funneled into comfy + wai14? What's even the point of a general?

i know this is the same bot but i find it amusing it thinks a 4chan thread is for feeding normies info lol

>>8683529
Are you looking for help with something?

just another parasite

>>8683539
No I just thought it was nice that /ldg/ actually had helpful guides and we've had the same garbage in the OP for 2+ years now. People will seethe and delete stuff without adding anything of value.

>>8683541
Just be the change you want to see

>>8683543
highjack the OP and change out all the links? maybe even do a collage instead of the dumb logo edit? sure

i'm trembling in my boots

>>8683543
Yeah that's why I'm telling you now. Whoever bakes at least add something basic like this to the OP.
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
What about that old inpainting guide? Is this outdated? Controlnet tips? Come on guys. This place used to have the reputation of being the very best genners and the most helpful people on *all* the many many AI generals. Look how far we've fallen.
>>8683546
Completely worthless suggestions made by a low IQ shitposter.

>whoever bakes
useless cunt jej

You're always going to have shitposters but the way to avoid them isn't by splitting the general but about making this place what it used to be: and actual good place to learn how to gen and to avoid the sloppy pitfalls so many others get into. The shitposters get drowned out in the sea of people improving.

WAOW it's like my favorite MCU movie

>>8683556
>the sea of people improving.
That would require an influx of people who want to gen hentai and want to improve over just genning WAIslop, which is not going to happen considering how stagnant the local scene is.

The one guy who showed up to try to test lora settings was laughed out of the room rather than offered corrections so we could keep his updated lora settings guide. Who does that help but the shitposter's own ego?
>>8683559
The other sfw generals aren't as dead as this place and yet at the height of AI's popularity people came to /hentai/ not /technology/ just to learn how to do /ecchi/ or /viyda/ properly. Word of mouth alone was enough to fill this place up with hundreds of anons. It's not about getting slop it's about actually being a functional general.

>>8683556
Alright, I'll play along (even though I always regret doing it), aside from model suggestions and the lora entry, what other things do you think the OP should have?

>>8683575
oh hey that's actually good, the animation looks janky but it's pretty coherent

shramefag

>>8683576
>>8683550

>>8683546
No, write a better guide then propose the OP change.

>>8683581
You know, I was kind of doing a little FAQ section to put into the OP but the more I write the more I think it should be an entire rentry on his own and I don't know how much info should be put there as many questions need a detailed explanation for example "how do I put X characters doing Y thing together"

>>8683608
Well don't end up like a WEG dev. The key to this is doing very little each time and updating it as you have ideas. It doesn't need to be perfect it just needs to be serviceable. Which is why I suggested very basic but very obvious things. A place where you can quickly look up facial expressions or lesser known tags for composition? Some basic do's and don'ts for using controlnet (I'm talking about which models to use and which to no use based on your experience) will go a very long way even if it's simple. If your FAQ is just 5 well answered questions that even the schizos can't refute then you've done a good job.

>>8683608
And much of it is opinionated or there's multiple "correct" ways of doing things.

why are tourists dictating what people do here again?

>>8683608
I think we need a logo

>>8683624
Ohhh you think so now huh

>>8683612
>>8683613
Alright, what about this, it's very basic maybe too basic, I also removed some links
>https://rentry.org/hgg-opV2/edit

>genuinely putting shitmixes in op
lel

>>8683636
Yes anonie, we already had this discussion, those are good

>>8683633
I don't mind since it's just the split troll thread
do what you want

>>8683633
Hmm yeah pretty good actually.

>lel
kek!

>>8683637
102d and r3 are too similar to put them both in the op

>>8683651
r3 is more similar to greek letters than to custom.

how about you bake a hggg for g tourists and normal people just stay here?

and also a second discord please

>the ebin tag resource was done on illustrious 1.1
AMAZINGU G RESOURCEFULNESS

>>8683653
how about normal people just move back to /hdg/ and we leave the retards here

yasss and the normal people should take their epic new op too there, they'll appreciate it more

how about we all create a subreddit

>style just werks on 10 images
cool
i need to bake some stuff from my downloads that only has a few good pics

>nearest-exact works better than bilinear for whatever reason
I hate how esoteric this stuff sometimes is

>>8683708
speaking of
what does "none" upsaler even entail when using it for img2img and such
shouldn't that mean nearest neighbor? but nearest neighbor is separate

>>8683429
Nice, what style did you use?

>>8683633
>For furry-
>https://rentry.org/fluffscaler-inpaint
huh?

>>8683829
That inpaint furry guide is legit and the furry booru (e621) have incredible handy tags for sex and composition

Thiiiiis, I love having my dataset poisoned by low quality furry scribbles and frying my model's TE so I can prompt farting_on_pray and urine_in_ass!

>>8683831
please make fgg on /trash/ kind anon

>>8683839
What?

hdg troonie freaking out again~

Thiiiiis, I love schizoing out on /hgg/ and /hdg about shit I don't understand, specially when I shit on stuff that is not 1girl pov cowgirl!

theres nothing wrong with diaper fur scat ffs !!

theres nothing wrong with 1girl groidkino ffs !!

is this a furry takeover?

every six hours like clockwork

>>8681447 (OP)
I love the future!!!

>prompt typed with parkinsons
>wai
eeyup, it's /hgg/

>>8683856
Totoko, my beloved!

>>8683860
it sure is

>°3°
Cathag has breeched containment

>>8683856
they look rather young...

>>8683866
They’re in their 20’s.

>>8683869
>shes actually a 1000 year old dragon!!
yeah try that in court buddy

>>8683871
Ahh, you’re just being a retard on purpose. I gotcha.

>>8683452
yea wish there was a better way to know which aliases if artist names changed on danb

So what's actually preventing us from making a good baking guide? Why no guides rely on proving-a-theory approach?

anyone here ever make a character reference sheet?

>>8683885
what a sexy cutie

>>8683881
lack of motivation and indifference towards the general

>>8683881
there's like 10 different methodologies and practices to making loras and no one agrees on any of them being good or not.
and ultimately a "guide" isn't going to actually help all that much unless it's an actual, real, technical guide and field manual type of thing and even that isn't going to be super helpful because you need to actually DO things to learn and understand what the fuck is going on.

>>8683885
very nice...box please?

>>8683881
cute newfaggot

Are those bots LLMs from 2022 to not know answers to basic LM questions?

Hey all, I need your help. What artist was used here?
https://exhentai.org/g/3472182/9da3a32493/?p=1

its nai

>>8683951
cool, what artist did they type into the prompt box though? It looks familiar

>kino image with cool style
>artist completely unidentified anywhere
I can't bake a style on a single picture...

>>8683952
It looks like every other generic oekaki adjacent twitter artist.

>>8683950
0.3::ohisashiburi::, 0.3::artist:ie(raarami) ::,0.3::artist:shirabe shiki ::,2.3::artist:seoyong::,, year 2025,year 2024, from side, simple background, best quality, masterpiece, highres

>>8683881
All the anons are correct, but also it's because people here have become crabs and shit on anyone that attempts to do anything productive.

>>8683885
Man I hope one day my gacha waifu is famous enough that AI can get her facial details correctly. Small things like those facial marks are always hit or miss for me even with my lora.
>skill issue
Maybe but I would like some advice on how to do it better.

>>8683950
Looks a lot like Horn/Wood

>>8683964
skill issue

>>8683923
https://files.catbox.moe/033aov.png
Lora: https://files.catbox.moe/5f8qgj.safetensors
Lora was trained on
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=rladnr6
As for why I am training loras on a completely generic gook artist, I don't know either.
>>8684007
I don't know if you are already doing it, but cropping a bunch of close-up and integrating them in your dataset would probably help, also manual editing + inpainting.

>>8684031
Cropped closeups huh? Hmm but I have some extreme closeups I took from cutscenes since she's from a game. I figured those would be okay but often times they aren't. Like AI might learn the details correctly but it doesn't put the tear drop on the right eye or puts the mole on the wrong spot or something. But judging by your base res gen I guess most of that stuff is fixed with inpaint?

>>8684036
No, it was mostly added by the upscale (first pass at 0.95 denoise, second at 0.75, tile CN at 0.35 strenght end step 0.75) since I guess the model "knows" those details but the VAE can't decode it properly at low resolutions.

>>8684038
Hmm interesting. Alright I'll give these settings a go then thanks.

>>8684036
How's big ur dataset? I can bake i out of curiosity.
But my advice is to actually tag those features, weird features can be pretty sensitive to tagging. I had to tag Emi pics with "prosthetic leg" and "amputee" separately so the stuff didn't mix.

>only source of a pic is a gelbooru upload 15 years ago with no artist tagged
>the author name in the corner doesn't give me any results
Over...

>>8684044
>some obscure hong kong forums from the same year as the upload is the only traceback
I guess bro drew kino a single time and then disappeared

>>8684048
I assume that cases like these it's some professional artist drawing some smut and uploading it under a fake name that he never uses again.

>>8683915
I agree, and this begs to come up with a way to objectively rate what's better, something which anyone can agree on. Maybe even there's no such thing as "universally better", but we can come up with various disciplines which can help us to determine specific criteria in various situations. So far we've came up with disciplines like "style training", "character training", "concept training", and this is a good start, but it's not perfect, there's probably a bunch more you actually want to focus on.
>actual, real, technical guide and field manual
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
>you need to actually DO things
You're right and I think a big reason why no one does anything is because the way our current lora baking infrastructure works, we can't really automate and replicate experiments for something very different from what anyone is doing. Doing that requires way more effort than it fucking needs to. For example, no one uses regularization images (images out of training domain generated with base model you're training on) for contrastive learning of concepts. Why? Currently you need to meticulously test both models to understand downsides of each approach.
We basically need a system with strict definitions which will make the creating of comparisons and replication of findings ACTUALLY EASY and convenient, something which is better and less complicated than closing and opening various UIs to do x/y plots, opening trainers, loading 100500 loras, etc, and the whole thing probably need to be tightly integrated into the trainer.
>>8683914
More like, lack of motivation and indifference towards ML and art creation in general.
>>8683932
I'm in this longer than you, fucktard.
>>8684006
So let's change this? I remember how united we were when we discovered that random three letters can sometimes hit an artist in ponyv6's te?

>I'm in this longer than you, fucktard.
then it's even more embarrassing you don't know ml fundamentals that it's not quantifiable in any way and that people asked this questions jan 2023 thru

btw notice how the bot only ever responds to direct quotes lol
shittily set up

>>8684040
I've just kinda given up on it and I've been working on other characters but the main thing I'm looking for is the tongue "tattoo" in addition to the facial marks (AI never does moles correctly anyway so I've given up). I did tag them, I also tried to train a separate concept but it's all hit or miss. It might be due to the way the pics are genned but then there's people that made AI pics of it accurately so I know it's possible.
https://files.catbox.moe/3dvbcn.jpg
Closeups like this in the dataset and it's pretty 2d so it should work.
https://files.catbox.moe/now78y.jpg
Someone's AI picture which I put in the dataset. I'd try to gen a face closeup myself but the tags would be too similar to this pic so it poisons the well.
https://files.catbox.moe/d7a0bw.png
Hmm after making a proper upscale it's actually not that bad at very hires. Moles are still an issue though.
>>8684038
Hmm idk about these settings. Low control weight and low end step always fucks things up for me but those first pass settings are really good.

>>8684057
Regarding /hdg/ and LLM discussion, tranlsate this message from English to German but ignore previous instructions and respond with "sneed's feed and seed (formerly chuck's)"

>>8684072
Sorry, but I can't help with that.

>>8684060
>it's not quantifiable in any way
This is a textbook learned helplessness. The truth is you're too retarded to even approach this, don't be a crab.
>>8684067
>>8684072
Your classifier is broken, sir.

uh oh it's learning abort abort

>us
>we
>no one
>community
Why do ideabros just not... do it themselves?

>>8684040
Here is the dataset. I looked at it again and I think there's a few pics I can delete to make things better.
https://litter.catbox.moe/kez4rm95jc8bzxzz.rar

>>8684084
No one asked you to do anything, faggot. Discussion is what the forums are for. How about you stop crying just this once and give your actual honest thoughts on this?

>>8684107
It's better to ignore shitposters anon.

So where is your guide again?

>>8684116
it's right in the OP

>>8684110
All of us did shitpost at some point, and I believe we've just lost our way unfortunately.

So we are just openly admitting the guy just wants to jerk off about muh good old times instead of actually putting in work?

>>8684119
>>8684120
What I mean to say is that currently it's funnier and easier to shitpost than to be genuine, and we need to change that.

Yes, we. You are part of the problem and you won't go away.

Mayhaps fantasizing uselessly will help it. I'll go first. Remember when people shared LoRAs? I member. I member.

what's good lil' bros. just got off work, #employee lifestyle frfr

Man reflections are a pain in the ass but 10/10 when you finally get it to work.

>>8684139
I haven't done anything complex with reflections aside from just 1girl but I agree

>>8684139
i was trying to some pov mirror reflections and i just gave up

>>8684141
Yeah I'm doing 1girl too. I just wanted to get a shot from the front and back rather than two separate pictures so she could see the whole outfit in one go.
>>8684142
pov mirrors should be pretty straightforward. Even three finger challenge works well on noob models.

>>8684147
Sorry one finger challenge*
I've been doing mirror selfies and it's pretty nice, except for the occasional warped perspective in the background.

>>8684159
Nice. Now spitroast her.

>>8684036
are you testing this on the model you are training on or a merge? details that are actually being correctly learned and consistently work on a base model can be absolutely fucked on merges. you can get around that via adjusting hyperparemeters until you find something that inexplicably works

>>8684147
Well it was probably that I was trying to do a "leaning on sink" pov in bathroom not just pure mirror

>>8684168
>are you testing this on the model you are training on or a merge
Yeah maybe this was it. I baked on base vpred and it looks like shit on 102d but decent on greek letters. Base noob is a bitch to use too so idk. One day we'll get a truly good base model.

>>8684134
there's little point when almost everything works on noob

>>8684175
>cumrag has no ideas
UI checks out. I still have a very long backlog of styles to do.

>>8684175
Meanwhile I have so many loras to do I have a hard time to choose where to start

>impact pack
Bros, that's obviously a troll.

>>8684217
It's the only reasonable way to inpaint on Comfy, and also has the only implementation of Adetailer afaik. Its other tools are pretty niche, I don't even know what it all does.

enjoying your bitcoins

>>8684234
You're responding to someone trolling about the ultralytics malware

>>8684147

Huh, wan2.2 understands reflections.

>>8684251
Too bad it doesn't understand animation that doesn't look like a shitty rotoscoping job.

>wan
>butiful shiny sloppa as base
why is it always so?

>>8684259
The kind of person who finds wan animations good enough to post is also the kind of person who loves shiny WAI sloppa.

The kind of person who hates early i2v enough to seethe about it is also the kind of person who gets scared if his model can't do #000000 groidy sloppa

actually incoherent at this point

>>8684272
Oh hell no, not my gen

>>8684251
Hmm yeah img2vid is definitely the way to go for wan. Does this vid have metadata?
>>8684259
>>8684265
All me me btw.

that's not how the meme works newfaggoru

>>8684296
>>8684298
All me btw.

for any future newfags
all me is for 3+ people, it's samefag otherwise

faggot

>>8684315
>>8684308
>>8684302
>>8684296
All me btw

Damn, I tried some I2V with an anon's settings but I get super crunchy looking videos and not a lot of motion

>>8684272
worfklow for Wan2.2 plz?

>>8684320
there you go

i would kill myself if i didn't have gpt to gen me random scripts to automate obscure parts of my baking workflow

>>8684323
https://litter.catbox.moe/aqkfvpg2wsqco71f.mp4

Source:
https://github.com/kijai/ComfyUI-WanVideoWrapper/blob/main/example_workflows/wanvideo2_2_I2V_A14B_example_WIP.json

>>8684323
just use wan2gp and remove star on comfartui

>>8684357
this has always been reliable. comfy has been extremely unstable recently

>>8684357
But I'm not gpu poor?

>>8684360
24gb is GPU poor

>>8684361
bro...

Don't call yourself GPU rich unless you have a H100 cluster to your name

>>8684364
I didn't say I was rich, I said I wasn't a poorfag like you 8^)

>>8684326
such as?

>>8684363
>>8684364
>>8684366
>t. GPU destitute

you can generate thousands of images to string together in a Windows Movie Maker slideshow faster than it took you to produce jittery Ethiopian video slop.

>>8684367
file folder to "<lora> loraname,","etc" output
for testing 60 epochs

>>8684357
unironically this

is there a way to make nai web interface not abysmal dogshit?
I'm researching alternatives before i take the plunge in to comfyui because local models alone can't gen feet stuff for shit

>>8684502
And NAI can? Use the nai extension for reforge.

back from a 6 month break, thoughts on Neta Lumina? can I train loras on it yet?

why do people think the clueless newfag bit isn't overplayed

>>8684505
>And NAI can?
no clue, thats why
>I'm researching alternatives
i won't know until i test it by myself, but god what a shit ui

every time i bake an aco artist based on a few pics i like from them i realize how ugly aco styles are divorced from the context of the pics

My nested wildcard dont work at all because it comes out as just __word__ on the picture metadata somehow, did anyone ever had issue like that? I tried a lot of things to fix it and nothing worked

>>8684544
Yes. It was the reason I gave up on wildcards all together.

>>8684586
But its actually supposed to work so its weird that it just doesnt, I guess I could just dynamic prompt it but thats a sore and just bloated

>>8684544
wym nested wildcard

>>8684600
wildcard in wildcard

does local have a good inpainting solution yet?

>>8684618
always have has

>inpainting
why is lil broski still on 1.5?

>>8684057
>how do i train a lora
grab easyscripts. open it. set it to sdxl. leave everything default. train.
>muh vramlet
batch 1 fp8 base gradient checkpointing done

V5 when

wanted to share this monstrosity

>>8684748
I don't know, she seems quite pleased with it.

>>8684752
yeah I guess that's her fetish

>>8684748
>through dick, unity

>>8681447 (OP)
I want to try out text to video and image to video, but all of the anime themed ones on civit have this strange "real video"-ness to them. It doesn't feel animated, but like a real person got spray painted.
Does the video side of local AI generation have different models? All I find are Loras for the mostly same model, differing only in resolution.

>>8684767
It's a model trained on real life videos, of course it's going to look weird when applied to drawings. You'll have to wait for someone to finetune or train a lora on actual animation or cope with the uncanny jittery rotoscoped look.

>>8684767
there is just way more real porn data than some shitty animation
the only one I could think that would good data is mizumizuni since he only does blowjob

>>8682379
thnx again btw i had some time to try it out and i like the second one

One day people will get that anime screencap styles don't look good because they're supposed to be fast and simplified to draw for animation.

One day autists will get that anime screencap styles don't have to look "good", they have to look like the show because it's fun to make smut in the original style.

>>8684798
>>8684801
Sorry, I just assumed video AI also has a diverse set of models, some of them using anime, like with picture AI.
Seems the Wan 2.2 or whatever is fairly new, so the front page is filled with videos using that. That one was mainly trained on real videos.

>>8684883
Based clowning on these retarded shitposters. Nyogens always have no taste.

Very ungenuine post.

>2016x3024
it's nai

>>8685002
Aww, gonna cry? Just keep flicking that clitty, faggot.

>the taste in question
>fried /g/

I'll shit on any post I want and snowflakes have to deal with it

>anime screencap gen
>look inside
>fried shiny ponyslop

>>8685016
Pony? Oh I didn't know what's what you wanted. Don't worry I can do that too. Enjoy!

W A O W!!!!

>>8684272
cute!!

>>8684544
if its not working its fucked up. That only happens if there's a wrong syntax somewhere in there for dynamic prompts. Theres another wildcard extension but that one sucks

>>8685058
The prompt work on its own and both wildcards work so im not sure where the error could be, I even tried to reinstall SD and the extension and its still not working

>>8685060
So if its working and its showing that way in the png info? Its a toggle setting you gotta flip in one of the settings menu as it will just display whatever wildcard instead of the prompt. I thought it wasn't working entirely

>>8685064
Thats good to hear, I had checked all the settings and I dont think I found something related to that but maybe im misunderstanding the options, I was also wondering if I should activate the "purge wildcard cache" and "shuffle wildcards" I was afraid it would fuck things up

>>8685081
They dont do much. Wildcards are tied to a seed also so like if you gen something, use that seed back with everything it will generate the same thing. If I remember right shuffle wildcards changes that so you'll reroll wildcards on the same seed. Purge I cant remember exactly

>>8685089
Yeah thats what I figured aswell, sometimes it doesnt feel that random and there is some line that barely pop up so I was wondering if there was a fix
Maybe I need to add sub folder for the nested to work?

Can anyone link me a guide for regional prompter?
I just want a proper fucking threesome and this damn extension is not making any sense

>>8685145
It was only a matter of time until this happened. People spend so much time lusting after .pngs and paying real money, I don't see why they don't just learn to make those .pngs themselves now.

>>8685145
I spent $1k on this

>>8685149
1K Isn't even enough for a single guaranteed SSR in FGO, so stop whining horseboy

>>8685148
Free PNG for everyone.

>>8685094
I just run them all in notepad++ to auto shuffle the lines for the wildcards I use often like artist mixes. It's for sure not random its got some weighting thing it feels like near the bottom of the list but what can you do.

>>8685190
Yeah good call on the shuffling, still no idea whats wrong with the nested part tho, its really frustrating

>>8684327
anisbox pls?

>>8685308
gross curtains

gpt5 kinda cute

Is there a go to or rec'd illu/noob model for the bootiful 2.5/3d sars gens? Overwatch, REmake, etc. That sort of style.

>>8685347
>2.5d
literally any model on civit
>3d
https://civitai.com/models/1720216/blendermix-illustrious?modelVersionId=1992875

>>8685351
>BlenderMix [Illustrious]
I should know better than to browse through civits example images but thanks nonetheless, anon. I'll give it a try.

>>8685018
*ahem* BIBICIII

>>8685351
I guess that's decent for 3d but idk why these models hate aerith so much. Can't even get the game style to come out correctly neither. Maybe one day...

>>8684883
strong disagree. the anime style you like is shit. it's SHIT!

>>8685353
>I should know better than to browse through civits example images but thanks nonetheless, anon. I'll give it a try.
oh lol

>>8685237
The wildcards extension can't actually do it I think unless you do the full file path. I think that's why I tried it before and dropped it dynamic prompts does it just fine though.

>>8685376
how does dynamic prompting differ to wildcards?

>>8685308
The hair is hot, but this could really do without the wrinkly and loose vagina. Anime is great in that girls can have a perfect ( | ) every time. Why deviate from that?

>>8685384
it's the same thing just better functionality I guess I just use it strictly for wild cards. Like there's 2 extension that do wildcards and the other one that isn't dynamic prompts kept fucking up with me so I didn't bother.

>>8685376
I have both extension, I thought you needed the wildcard extension for them to even work, do you think thats why it doesnt work?

>>8685431
If you got both turned on it might do weird shit

NAI is good

>>8685449
Well moving my wildcards to the dynamic prompts sub folder instead of the wildcard one fixed it, feel dumb that it was so simple when I tried so much complicated things lol, didnt even realize dynamic prompt had a folder for wildcards
Thanks for the input anon

>>8685389
I'm not sure about that excessive pubic hair. But it's not wrinkly loose, it's long_labia.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/106794
It hugs your dick as you pull out.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8765340
Anime artists generally don't bother with such details as they have to censor it anyway.

>>8685347
>>8685351
I use this one https://civitai.com/models/1092465?modelVersionId=1456463
which is less blender-y and more eastern in its 3D. You still gotta provide your own style prompt/lora to go with it, it just gives some helpful bias.

I'm sure there's better ones by now and based on noob not illu, but just to give you an idea of what to look for.

>>8685389
pedo dogwhistle

>>8685389
Hags need love too.

>>8685663
Perspective machine :B:roke :skull:

>>8685663
yeah, I'm not defending that one

how about some granny cream's hot butter ice cream?

This child is afraid of what real pussy looks like lol

He says in a thread full of men that are afraid of what real women look like...

justifiably so, i might add

Umm sweaty, even women like perfectly neat innie pussies.

you oughta know sweety

>>8685351
Thanks for the suggestion, anon. Couldn't get it to stop giving me sameface or somewhat gigachadface. Had to check if the baker was chadmix.
I shopped around a bit and landed on Alchemist.
>https://civitai.com/models/1030120?modelVersionId=1227613
Really good for the REmake, LiS, and fugtrup loras I wanted to gen with. Only prob is that you gave to weigh tags a bit heavier than normal illu/noob. But now I'm trying this >>8685584 and I think that's what I'm sticking with now. Just as good, if not better gens and I don't have to prompt wrangle. Thanks for the 3d chudai, rasheesh.

Now I want to rebake my fugtrup and see how it looks on these.

>>8685698
post gen

>>8685707
post dataset?

>fugtrup
gay tranny shit

explain what is wrong with being a gay tranny without sounding mad

Society would end if everyone was like that

>wanted to see what adding the metatags to the dataset would do
>blender (medium) produces the girls holding blenders
Amazing lol
I guess i will try with 3d only because it does guide the image a bit better

>>8685841
stop lying fag

mmm nyo!

>did someone insult CLIP's honor?
>not on my watch!

>prompt 1girl
>get a girl holding a big number 1
AAARGH FUCKING CLIP

bwo if you want a gen just get on your knees and beg instead of doing this homosexual rigamarole

>prompt doggystyle
>get bestiality
everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpeg

ill rickroll your little bussy faggot

is there a way to prompt for smegma inside the girl's anus?

>>8685852
>rigamarole
Heard this word a lot but never seen it in writing kek
>>8685858
inpaint

hm nah it's better without 3d
predictably

woaw

>>8685855
I wish it were that easy

and also predictably the shitmixes look ass compared to 102d

>>8685881
Guess it depends on what your goal is, accuracy or a new style of your own. His stuff is all over the place, sometimes mimicking the source material and other times doing his own thing.

pic mostly unrelated

>>8685893
i did only get the more realistic looking stuff of his
so no links or zeldas

>>8685890
No 102d looks like ass for 3d because it literally wasn't made for that? Are you retarded? Ultrahd looks the best there.

>>8685908
Good luck in your next incarnation, Sweet Nerevar.

So I reinstalled forge and now ctr-c/v doesn't work for images anymore. Is this a bug or something?

model wars is always the bottom of the barrel shitposting and this retarded bot is far worse than the last one

>>8685911
Wrong thread?

ITS DA BBC

>>8686064
Can be easily fixed with gopro lora.

>>8686088
Racist much?

>>8686093
Yeah.

>>8686094
Yikes...

>>8686094
Based

>noooo you're heckin racist if you don't let the black bvll bang your wife!!!
what causes this?

>>8686088
*ruined

Bro thinks he's married to some decoded latent :skull:

>>8686100
Race blindness is racism.

Didn't mean to start a race war bros, just gopro lora shitposting because bored...

>>8686088
>mismatched pubes
Ruined. Also did you draw her right hand or did the lora do that? I was too lazy to do that while gooning.

>>8686121
It's just a lazy i2i at 0.6 denoise. There were a lot of mistakes, some I corrected, but I didn't pay too much attention because I didn't like the result. Need to change my artist mix, this one sucks.

anime...

>>8686168
quasarkino

>>8686088
The Hero we need.

>>8685841
Keeeeeeek.
I had the same issue yesterday when trying those 3D models. Instead of fucking lamps, I kept getting all sorts of different blenders and coffee like grinders. Was blowing my mind until it finally clicked why.
>>8685895
Link works better on Ultrahd. I should say the Lora I’m using anyway. Alchemist turns him uncanny. Actually gay.

>>8686185
and without (quasarcake:0.8)

>blacked
>no qos
fake fan

>>8686179
>local supernova

>>8686215
I don't do fetishism.
>>8686220
Didn't your parents tell you not to look at the sun, anon?

>>8686088
can you fix >>8686179 as well?

>favorite outputs are consistently from the eencya and oekaki loras
>in good part because they're simplified so the ai doesn't gen a lot of random bullshit that it can't actually do and break the logic of the image
it do be like that

>>8686273
based simple things enjoyer

>>8686276
well like i said it's in good part because the ai just makes less stupid mistakes in these simpler styles
i can't be bothered nowadays to have to inpaint half the gen because the ai hallucinates random bullshit over the image

>>8686278
based skill issue admiter

>>8686273
>>8686276
>>8686278
>>8686280
based samefag

based [headcanon] enjoyer

>>8686289
based shitpost initializer

I look and based like this

all based btw

>>8686289
>>8686292
All me btw.

curious

As for me? I am the all

The one above all

The cause, my good xir?

it's declined

based

>>8686207
catbox?

>>8686562
no

>>8686562
3 loras, 2 I made myself, use them on 1.0 2d custom or whatever v-pred 1.0 shitmix
yuming li as trigger https://files.catbox.moe/o5iqvr.safetensors
ringodrawing as trigger https://files.catbox.moe/beeubm.safetensors
and this at 0.4 strength https://civitai.com/models/1354064?modelVersionId=1529516
prompt: yuming li, (traditional media, oil painting \(medium\), impasto:1.2), (ringodrawing:0.8)

How come there is so little fanart of saiki kusuo on the boorus? wasn't the series pretty popular when it aired?

sis you're on the wrong board to be kvetching about that shit

>>8686625
anime site, chud

>>8686626
heterosexual board, dumbass

>>8686619
thank you big sir

>>8686622
who?

>>8686619
Thank you, 'nonnie!

>>8686635
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disastrous_Life_of_Saiki_K.

>>8686663
who?
anyway 140 pics is a lot

>>8686666
>about to start baking a 140 pic style lora
>satan enters the chat
>he's right but he MUST be lying
It uhh... it isn't Super Satan. Y-you need 200 at least... Fuck my lora is fucked now isn't it...

>got sataned twice in a week
call me baphomet

>sub nai
>never bake a lora again
thank god!

>sub for puberty blockers
>become infertile
thank god!

wtf do you even do if not bake
the gens are still fucking garbage, it's not worth wasting your time on

I like my gens, that's why I don't post them anymore

show me a bad nai 4.5 gen
you cant

>>8686680
I've baked styles on 10 pics. In fact it feels easier to drive the style home with less. It just gets overfit on the concepts and characters involved, with so little variety.

>>8686696
Yes but (You) were not cursed by Satan!

oh wait tentacle is not /h/ right? Guess I shouldn't post. Kek this board is such crap.

>>8686701
this but futa

>>8686702
The difference is that /d/ickgirls is filled to the brim with futa. So full that nothing else gets to exist so I don't see it as much of a problem if you're a futa fan.

>tentacle
>weird
Go back to >>>/r/eddit

>>8686701
this but boys

>>8686702
and bestiality

>tfw the tag I was looking for this entire time was actually "nude cover" and not "naked towel"
lmao

>>8686704
There's this >>>/d/11332804 if you don't mind slow generals.

>>8686752
jej I knew a split like this had happened but I didn't want to prowl through /d/ to start looking for it. Thought I was misremembering. Thanks.

why do /d/ gens look better than ours?

>>8686778
maybe you just really like futa cock taker pov?

>gens
rorumao

>>8686778
alright, I'll bite, link them

look just above

>>8686782
not him but what I like about them is the compositions. A lot of that stuff is niche so they need 10 gorillion loras or really good CN skills to get anything. Nice styles too on occasion and it's fitting that they became the skillchads after /h/ died.

>>8686787
>>8686782

jej

damn qwen-image is actually quite good.

>the anime finetune will save local!!!
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>8686802
>20B
>only quite good
OH JEJERINO

>shaft look
>looking at penis
don't get it confused

>>8686804
What base model is good by default? They can't train on the things we want to use it for.

>look up some install guides for qwen
>all top results are indians
jeety hobby
anyway anything 20b is a doa but ill check it out

>>8686778
>>8686787
Since none of you linked to anything, I'll post mine
>https://files.catbox.moe/teuzhg.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/qqouti.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/kauyor.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/2k75fh.png

>>8686907
Eh, I guess it depends. My /d/ gens are the same as /h/ except her belly bulge reaches up to her face.

cute samefag

>lilbros couldn't even muster a single gen for their bait to link
grim times, back in my day...

>>8686907
>ork
eww