Thread 8751434

What is Teaching Feeling (Dorei to no Seikatsu)? An eroge where you take in a young "broken bird" slave who was abused by her former master, and heal her heart and soul. Fall in love with the endearing Sylvie as she learns to feel again, trust others, and fall in love (and lust).

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A complete remake of the game is in progress, and several anons are training AI models on Ray's art to generate new Sylvies. Help is appreciated.

>Ray-Kbys (creator)
https://twitter.com/ray_kbys
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/888112
https://www.deviantart.com/ray-kbys

>Buy 4.0.x
>PayPal can be used; just buy enough points and exchange them for the game
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ162718.html/?locale=en_US

>Changelog / FAQ for oldfags
https://pastebin.com/raw/cYvnyGFG

>TransFix Anon's MEGA
>3.0.22 English TL / Modpack
>4.0.6 English TL WIP
>Linux Ports
>Tyrano Player for Android (try JoiPlay if you encounter problems)
https://mega.nz/#F!QYQU3AgK!GmuazlKuyAV-y1JPgVgVOQ

>3.0.22 Mods List
>Check \Teaching Feeling 3.0.22\modpack info.txt in link above

>Updating TF / Installing TL & Mods
https://pastebin.com/raw/pe1aBnRN


----- Older versions -----
>Download 3.0.0:
https://mega.nz/folder/SgUknAJR#bHflKLkwPedvZqoEPNk3nQ/file/roMzxaRC
>Download 2.5.2:
https://mega.nz/folder/SgUknAJR#bHflKLkwPedvZqoEPNk3nQ/file/n4VAkQoA
>2.5.2 English TL / Mods
https://mega.nz/folder/QYQU3AgK#GmuazlKuyAV-y1JPgVgVOQ/folder/xQQHWQpQ
>Buy 1.9.2
https://www.dmm.co.jp/en/dc/doujin/-/detail/=/cid=d_119473/
>1.9.2 English TL + Mods
https://mega.nz/#F!DxcWBBqS!Yx9NjiLNtXsN2Ty41WfOYQ


>Story about the "official" 1.7.9 English release (download link at the end):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sHW-0BVH-MWXSlAvtgizYz70aPc18EBJe3Aw84C8ToA/edit?usp=sharing

>Butterfly Affection English (another Ray game)
https://mega.nz/#!ptcWiQzI!kj3MjzQNX6Cqu6yFxB0yVBa-d0dEkcnJIBmOAaXpJoM

>Archive of Ray / Sylvie stuff
https://mega.nz/folder/SgUknAJR#bHflKLkwPedvZqoEPNk3nQ

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>remake

does this mean we'll finally get a marriage ending?

>>8752421
if yall can make the art for it yeah. I'm working on making an editor so people can add their own routes and whatnot. I can write the code but I can't draw for shit.

>>8752595
I've been doing some of the AI stuff including this threads start pic.
Just messing around with styles for fun.

From what I know from 3.0 and how the game is set up. It is a lot of hair placements, clothes, accessories for each scene practically.

I've been unable to really say I have a 1:1 match with Ray's style. Specifically Sylvie.
That said, I still feel weird to take away Ray-K's ownership from this game.
With how Ray is... I can only imagine his thoughts on AI.

>>8752903
>That said, I still feel weird to take away Ray-K's ownership from this game.
From a moral standpoint I think the better route is for the anons collaborating on this to get an artist and make their own original project in the "caring for a broken girl" genre. However I will not deny that many anons feel strongly attached to Sylvie specifically and will want to continue her story since Ray clearly isn't gonna be doing it anytime soon if ever.

>>8752903
It's a very simple calculation, mate:
>love_for_sylvie <=> respect_for_ray
You know the values.

>>8752907
The way I feel about it is like if an author wrote a third of a book with a really interesting premise and then just fucked off into the woods and got mad at anyone calling him lazy yanderedev style.

At that point you have thrown your creation out into the world and if you will do nothing with it then I will.

Also it does help that the game itself has so little content that its doable to just clone the damn thing. Would have been a problem for me if he actually gave this game actual content.

on a side note, wasn't there some project on another board that also turned into its own thing. I want to say its called snootgame or snoot something or other.

>>8752929
Yes, Snoot Game was made by a bunch of Anons based very loosely on characters from Goodbye Volcano High, a game that ended up being bland and dogshit, while the earnest efforts by Anons resulted in a "parody" game that was infinitely better than what a professional studio produced.

>>8753070
fuck haven't thought about that game in years

>>8752595
You're a godsend, anon.

>>8751434 (OP)
It's her birthday and not a single post here. You people make me sick.

>>8755779
I had been sitting around wondering if anyone else was going to post. I wanted to see if these threads truly are dead.

>>8755779
I celebrate it in May. When Ray posted a drawing of her for the first time.

>>8755779
not gonna lie I had no idea when that was.

>>8755780
they are pretty dead most of the time desu

>>8756099
If that's conception, shouldn't her birthday be nine months later in February?

>>8756099
>>8755780
Ray himself just posted this on his Pixiv, her birthday is indeed 27th of October anon.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/136761916

>>8756511
It's kinda amazing how he traded his ability to draw hair and eyes for the ability to draw hands, not claws.

happy birthday Sylvie! look how much you changed through out the years

>>8756563
We technically never got confirmation that Sylvie *isn't* an eldritch abomination monster girl

Anons, I need your help, please, I asked this same question back in 2021 but no one gave me any answers, I need your help with this, especially since today is Sylvie's birthday.
I am already aware of the Endearing Nephy game, but please, tell me that there exists a fangame or a mod where you take care of both Sylvie and Nephy together?, they look so cute together, I want to adopt them both and make them sisters, seeing them hugging each other safely in their father's care and protection gives me feelings that I am unable to properly describe, how the hell do drawings on a screen give me such fatherly instincts?, why aren't they real?, fuck you Ray, and fuck all Japs in general, fuck you for doing this to me.
(Bonus if the mod/fangame has you marry Aurelia and thus she becomes Sylvie's and Nephy's adoptive mom, now the two girls can finally have a loving family)

Been lurking for a while now. Lost access to one of my Sylvie-only AI-generated pics, got the pixiv acc nuked, but I'm still here, and still the same old stupid dude, loving the personification of perfection, Sylvie. Happy 10th anniversary!!!

>>8756776
... Of course, it's been years and I still love her. I can't get enough of her, honestly. And I don't think I ever will. Happy birthday, Sylvie!!!

>>8756775
I am not aware of anything like that but with our autism combined it can be made. Would be one hell of an undertaking though.

>>8757044
Forget it, In the 25 days since my last post I'm still struggling to understand descriptor sets, timeline semaphores, dynamic rendering ...

>>8757239
well good news then. With the rework I'm making an editor for people to add / edit their own routes and scenes. Its easier to just build it while I'm rebuilding everything anyways and would hopefully be easy enough for other people to use.

>>8757527
current idea is to have every scene be a node and branch out, going to add features to this as I remake what routes already exist in the game.

going to have the image change to whatever background and first set of forground images used to help keep it readable, maybe a title above it as well.

if yall got ideas or whatnot that should be added feel free to post it and once I get the game routes done I'll look into adding whatever editor features that seem easy enough to add before the new year.

>>8757534
I have no personal stake in this, but I remember some anons wanting the dark route to be explored more - one where she doesn't die, and where she just indulges in physical pleasure. Maybe still have her develop feelings for the doctor that remain unreciprocated in this route.

>>8757534
>>8757555
Or maybe something like RJ272680, which has money, different jobs, different talents, different routes depending on what you do with her ...

>>8757561
Also, maybe the flower stuff can be expanded into an actual alchemy section, where you collect flowers and other ingredients (with Sylvie), make various potions, and sell them under the counter. Also unlock the ending (wedding) if you have a certain amount of money and your Sylvie remains pure. Money being an actual mechanic would make the money the doctor spends on Sylvie matter a lot more (to the player). Maybe have an energy bar for Sylvie that limits how much sex you can have with her, and increased lust or an improved house can increase her daily regen or her max energy, to the point where she has so much abundant energy she's asking you for it. That could also play into the dark route, where you effectively prostitute Sylvie (more money, less pure) until she actively starts craving it.

I kinda don't know how much effort y'all willing to put into this though.

>>8757577
brother I said features for the editor, I'll add in the routes in the base game but after that its up to you and whoever else wants to make the art for it. If yall will need something added to the editor then sure but its going to be mostly art needed for the routes and I got nothing in that department chief.

>>8757588
You should at least consider support for it in the engine.

>>8757591
If you mean being able to add various stats then yes that should be in the game by default because there are already mechanics like that.
desu if there's a need for something specific adding it shouldn't be very difficult, or at least not with how its currently set up.

>>8757633
also huh, when did it start autocorrecting shit to desu? never seen that one before

>>8757634
It's been that way for years as far as I know, happens only with certain abbreviation.

Also, in the editor, any chance you add a description on how to get a route? I imagine it like a pop up that shows up when your cursor is over the node and says something like
"Stats needed for scene:
100 Lust
300 affection
Summer dress
During the day"

>>8757643
huh never noticed. yeah I could do that.

Damn, I just found out about game a few days ago and am already smitten by Sylvie. It's incredible how many buttons this game has managed to push. Respect to the guy remastering this game and many thanks. I don't think I'll be able to rest until we have a proper marriage/children ending.

>>8757745
You'd have to wait a bit longer for that. It still doesn't have an ending, last I played and when I once asked Ray (the dev) on that part

>>8757534
I don't know what engine you're using, but can you please, PLEASE instruct it to use actual tiling VRAM to store assets in it? I've just debugged a Unity game that stored its assets in a memory section not optimizing for tiling, and lord, did it show. Those 100-cycle penalties per texel are REAL.

Does anyone know if the the 4.0.6 version fully translated or not?

>>8760508
I understood maybe like half of that but I wouldn't be that worried about it. This thing is taking less then 200 MB of memory for textures and it only loading a handful of images at a time anyways. idk what the fuck the og dev was cooking with whatever engine this game was made on but the load times for all the assets is impressively bad

>>8761227
Size is irrelevant, this is about tiling. Generally spoken there are two ways resources are stored in memory heaps:
>linear: exactly like pixel data would appear to a CPU. Great for 1D buffers like vertices, indices, uniforms, but absolute garbage for 2D resources like images.
>tiled: complete and utter, but functional, chaos. Has mipmaps and layers and metadata that can easy take more than an additional 100% of the actual image size, but 2D-access is lightning-fast. Buffer speed is so slow you're better off streaming from system RAM via the (PCIe) bus though. To avoid overhead per image a lot of engine perform atlasing, where they put a bunch of smaller images into a big one and then create subviews from it; the overhead's only applied per image, not subview.

>>8760577
Not yet as far as I know.

>>8761254
well, I can give it a look but honestly I have no idea how to change this and from the performance standpoint there are so few things being loaded anyways that even if they are crazy inefficient it should still run without any hiccups.

>>8761973
>I have no idea how to change this
I don't know your engine, but I can at least give you directions how to do it in Vulkan, if you want to research the equivalents yourself.

>>8761973
Also, no, it's not just a "small thing". Each frame is going to have some asset or another rendered to the swapchain, and each pixel access of that scene is going to incur a penalty if you don't upload it into an optimal buffer.

pat pat pat

>>8762112
>>8762122

well I'm not gonna promise anything but sure I'll look into it if you want to drop the directions for Vulcan.

Making the game on redot, tldr devs from godot got mad that bugs weren't getting fixed and branched off.

>>8763135
I didn't find the source code for Rodot, but I did look into Godot's. As far as I can tell, if you call texture_create with TEXTURE_USAGE_CPU_READ_BIT set, the engine enforces linear tiling instead of optimal:
>create_info.tiling = (p_format.usage_bits & TEXTURE_USAGE_CPU_READ_BIT) ? VK_IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR : VK_IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL
Now, I don't know why you would want to read back data from your images - most code writes their data into staging buffers via memcpy, which ends up issuing non-temporal stores above a certain threshold (depends on CRT and/or cache sizes), which in effect means that your target data is never ever gonna be in your cache - but there's your warning.

(Also their memory management is garbage because they try to be opaque about their ABI. They call VersatileResource::allocate without allowing the user to determine where the image is going to be stored, and let's not even talk about batching, shall we)

>>8764011
> What happened to her?
> No creampies for a week.

>>8764225
This got deleted fast. What did I miss?

>>8765917
Just a screenshot of being sick.

>>8762122
Not the dev guy you were talking to, but I've been studying this and I'm still not sure I can grasp the abstract nature of what's happening here.

Can you explain like I'm retarded? I thought the pixels were just drawn based on instructions in memory, or am I understanding graphics wrong?

>>8767954
>pixels were just drawn based on instructions in memory
That would be the equivalent of *vector graphics*. What we're taking about are *raster graphics* made of pixels, which become blurry when (usually bilinearily) filtered.

>but this is a 2D game
So 2D games still use triangles to display their contents. Two of them form a rectangle, and the GPU automatically applies your texture to each triangle via the UV coordinates. Texture access depends on the proximity of the data (reading from bus is much slower than reading from VRAM), and from the internal ordering of each pixel (linear is much slower than optimal).

What's exactly happening with tiling is that the GPU puts neighboring pixels all within the same cache line. This eases memory pressure and simplifies prefetching. If the pixels are linearly tilied, then accesses can vary across multiple cache lines, increasing memory pressure and throwing off the prefetcher and wasting GPU cycles on every pixel that is read from the texture on every frame.