Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:08:32 PM No.17749300
I found this map. Countries which have at some point claimed to be Rome's successor. Shouldn't Spain and England also be red?
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Thread 17749300 - /his/ [Archived: 1222 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:39:18 PM No.17749334
>>17749300 (OP)
the entire map should be red. personally; I think Romania is the true successor via the principality of Theodoro.
the entire map should be red. personally; I think Romania is the true successor via the principality of Theodoro.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:47:22 PM No.17749338
>>17749300 (OP)
>>17749300 (OP)
>He dosent know about Wales being the true successor state of Rome
>Showing San Marino, a litterall surviving roman municipalia so even above of a successor, as white instead of red
The maker of this map need to upgrade his historical autismo
>>17749300 (OP)
>He dosent know about Wales being the true successor state of Rome
>Showing San Marino, a litterall surviving roman municipalia so even above of a successor, as white instead of red
The maker of this map need to upgrade his historical autismo
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:18:02 PM No.17749451
Big Bongus
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6/9/2025, 3:14:02 PM No.17749541
>>17749300 (OP)
Spain and Romania
Spain and Romania
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:01:52 PM No.17749711
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:05:33 PM No.17749713
>>17749300 (OP)
> Russia is in red
Wtf? How? Not like the other countries don't have lame excuses, but at least they have excuses...
> Russia is in red
Wtf? How? Not like the other countries don't have lame excuses, but at least they have excuses...
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:11:34 PM No.17749717
>>17749713
Ivan III had married Zoe Paleologos. After Feodor Bellringer's death it is larp based on being biggest Orthodox country like ERE was.
Ivan III had married Zoe Paleologos. After Feodor Bellringer's death it is larp based on being biggest Orthodox country like ERE was.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:15:26 PM No.17749724
>>17749713
After Constantinople fell in 1453. The Roman throne was "transferred" to Moscow and has remained there ever since.
After Constantinople fell in 1453. The Roman throne was "transferred" to Moscow and has remained there ever since.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:51:29 AM No.17750831
>>17749724
The Byzantine Empire actually fell in 1475 which means Romania has the most legitimate claim.
The Byzantine Empire actually fell in 1475 which means Romania has the most legitimate claim.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:56:36 AM No.17751119
>>17750831
true but Spain and Portugal also have a legitimate claim to being a direct continuation via the Basque Country and the Visigothic Kingdom which became rump states during the western empire's disintegration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY9P0QSxlnI&t=246
in turn, these countries were reduced to the rump state of Asturias in 718 which eventually conquered all of Spain by 1492. Spain, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, and Italy were then united under Charles V in 1516.
The Netherlands and Italy then lost their claim to being a direct continuation during the Napoleonic wars and Germany and Austria lost theirs in 1945 so in summary there are really only three successor states in Europe:
- Romania (Trebizond > Theodoro > Wallachia)
- Spain
- Portugal (via the Iberian union 1580-1640)
thankyou for reading.
true but Spain and Portugal also have a legitimate claim to being a direct continuation via the Basque Country and the Visigothic Kingdom which became rump states during the western empire's disintegration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY9P0QSxlnI&t=246
in turn, these countries were reduced to the rump state of Asturias in 718 which eventually conquered all of Spain by 1492. Spain, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, and Italy were then united under Charles V in 1516.
The Netherlands and Italy then lost their claim to being a direct continuation during the Napoleonic wars and Germany and Austria lost theirs in 1945 so in summary there are really only three successor states in Europe:
- Romania (Trebizond > Theodoro > Wallachia)
- Spain
- Portugal (via the Iberian union 1580-1640)
thankyou for reading.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:02:15 PM No.17751479
>>17749300 (OP)
.>Andreas died poor in Rome at some point in June 1502. In his will, written on 7 April that same year, he once more gave away his claim to the imperial title, this time to Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile, designating them and their successors as his universal heirs.
>Neither Ferdinand nor Isabella, nor any succeeding monarch of Spain, ever used the title.
.>Andreas died poor in Rome at some point in June 1502. In his will, written on 7 April that same year, he once more gave away his claim to the imperial title, this time to Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile, designating them and their successors as his universal heirs.
>Neither Ferdinand nor Isabella, nor any succeeding monarch of Spain, ever used the title.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:22:44 PM No.17752239
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:54:25 PM No.17752305
>>17749300 (OP)
Shouldn't Algeria be red since the Kingdom of Altava claimed rulership over the Romans at some point? Or am I just retarded?
Shouldn't Algeria be red since the Kingdom of Altava claimed rulership over the Romans at some point? Or am I just retarded?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 9:01:39 PM No.17752315
>>17752305
yeps eurocentrics garbage islamophobia
yeps eurocentrics garbage islamophobia
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 9:02:32 PM No.17752320
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 9:42:53 PM No.17752410
Maybe the true Roman empire was the friends we made along the way.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:17:39 AM No.17753044
>>17749713
The Byzantines married into the Rurik Dynasty of Russia. The Ruriks were the descendants of the last Roman Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos.
Russia almost completely adopted Roman culture. They became the centre of, and defenders of the Roman religion, Orthodox Christianity.
Almost their entire legal and administrative system was Roman.
Cyrilic, the Russian alphabet was based on the Greek alphabet and modified by the Byzantines, which became the basis for the Russian written language. So they use the Roman language.
One of the reasons why the Russians constantly went to war with the Ottomans for a period of like 500 years was to try and avenge the fall of the Roman Empire and retake Constantinople.
A Roman from the 1300s/1400s would recognise Russia more than any other country in 1914. Picrel is when rome died, in 1917.
The Byzantines married into the Rurik Dynasty of Russia. The Ruriks were the descendants of the last Roman Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos.
Russia almost completely adopted Roman culture. They became the centre of, and defenders of the Roman religion, Orthodox Christianity.
Almost their entire legal and administrative system was Roman.
Cyrilic, the Russian alphabet was based on the Greek alphabet and modified by the Byzantines, which became the basis for the Russian written language. So they use the Roman language.
One of the reasons why the Russians constantly went to war with the Ottomans for a period of like 500 years was to try and avenge the fall of the Roman Empire and retake Constantinople.
A Roman from the 1300s/1400s would recognise Russia more than any other country in 1914. Picrel is when rome died, in 1917.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:50:57 AM No.17754205
>>17751479
>nor any succeeding monarch of Spain, ever used the title
Because the Habsburgs were fags and cared more for the germanic imperial title than the latin one. Also they could have used the other spanish imperial title from medieval times, the "Imperator Totius Hispaniae", thing that never did because they were afraid of pissing off their germanic imperial cousins.
>nor any succeeding monarch of Spain, ever used the title
Because the Habsburgs were fags and cared more for the germanic imperial title than the latin one. Also they could have used the other spanish imperial title from medieval times, the "Imperator Totius Hispaniae", thing that never did because they were afraid of pissing off their germanic imperial cousins.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:08:40 PM No.17754615
>>17751119
>Trebizond > Theodoro > Wallachia
What? All of those were totally different cultures, what are you on about?
>Trebizond > Theodoro > Wallachia
What? All of those were totally different cultures, what are you on about?