>makes universe
>does nothing

>>17750456 (OP)
>creates gay people
>hates them

>>17750456 (OP)
>be deist God
>do nothing
>win
hmm I'm thinking he's kinda basef

>>17750456 (OP)
Your brain on deism.

>>17750462
Gays aren’t created tho. “Gay” is a fake modern identity oriented around feelings. Anyone can feel or claim to be gay if they say that’s the case. God created your asshole to shit, not stick cocks up it. God hates it when you stick cocks up your ass because he wants you to get married to a beautiful woman and not die of aids or prostate cancer. If you don’t want God in your life and prefer to stick cocks up your ass then you’re entirely free to do so, it’s foolish to expect God to be okay with that though. You aren’t entitled to approval. God doesn’t owe you approval for doing things you know have nothing to do with God.

He and his archons are enjoying the loosh they get from this inherently suffering generating reality

>>17751029
>God creates everything
>well um akstually gays weren't created
So god is not all powerful?

>>17751035
Is the concept of “being Gay” from God or from your modern culture? Is Gayness a conception that originates from ideas in alignment with God or absent from being in alignment from God?

>>17751041
His creation include the possibility of gayness

Therefore gayness is from god

>>17750456 (OP)
>does nothing
How little you know... read: https://archive.org/details/bwb_W8-BSC-883

I get that you don't want to be a believer (to have a religion), but it would not be a bad idea for you to become a seeker (to seek Truth - God).

>>17751052
So if I conceive three kids and one of them steals my car to go shoot up heroin with his friends, was it my will for my son to do heroin? Is/ought distinction. Creation and will are separate. God is a creator but also has will and desire regardless of the creation’s existence. Gayness is not God’s will, but yours. You can choose not to call yourself gay, God isn’t tying you up against your will and forcing you to adhere to a self concocted identity.

>>17751775
>So if I conceive three kids and one of them steals my car to go shoot up heroin with his friends, was it my will for my son to do heroin?
Are you omnipotent and omniscient?

Theism is brain poison and notice how rapidly the theist will tell a lie
>God created everything
>jk no actually God did not create that thing

Theists all lie and believe lies. There is no singular creator. This has always been the core lie of theism. They will instantly lie.

Its always the same lie
>"God" created everything
>except that thing my shitcult doesnt approve of

The theist is lying to himself and to others.

>>17751778
I can call the cops on the kid and have him jailed both for theft and for doing illegal drugs. By all intents I clearly have a greater degree of power yet choose not to be forceful.

>>17751778
Your god isnt omnipotent or omniscient either.

Theists are consistently the worst at predicting future events. God has no causal power, no explanatory power, no evidence that the theist God exists or denies/permits anything. Its complete nonsense.

>>17751782
Projection
>there is no God
>I hate God

>>17751775
>god created everything
>but god has a will
>gods will conveniently lines up with what 2000 year old dead foreskin slicing animal and human sacrificing sandniggers believed

>>17751784
You’re assuming anon is even a theist. You’re currently lying while claiming others are lying and ignoring your own lies. Why should I believe anything you claim?

>>17751787
Yes.

>>17751785
There is no singular, omnipotent, omniscient God that also has a will that lines up with the moral preferences of dead people from 2000 years ago

>>17751792
Your god is dead and has no control over people who dont believe in him

Thus your god is not all powerful

>>17751793
Again with the lies. Where are you getting these claims from? Your own self delusion? You positing delusions in hubris isn’t a credible source. All you do is lie and project.

>>17751794
>dying man claims god is dead
Lol. Lmao. Okay ant king show

>>17751795
>god is all powerful
>things happen contrary to "all powerful" god

By logical contradiction your god is by necessity not all powerful

>>17750456 (OP)
Kicked back and Enjoying the Show.

YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

>>17751800
>cannot comprehend is/ought distinction
Your inability to follow logical thinking isn’t indicative of what logic consists of. You’re a delusional and hubristic moron who thinks you somehow follow rationalistic frameworks while being irrational. It shows that without God man lacks the capacity to even preform logic

>>17751806
>god made everything
>except the things god doesnt like

>>17751810
Yeah.

>>17751815
Actual mental illness that requires you to believe logically contrary things

>>17751783
>I can call the cops on the kid
That's after the fact. We're talking about an omnipotent an omniscient being acting to create something before the fact while in full possession of the relevant facts.

>>17751817
Cool so the homosexual /his/ poster who cannot logically comprehend the difference from a being’s existence and a being’s desire is calling strangers online mentally ill.

>>17751819
Will and power are separate functions. You clearly understand the analogy enough to dismiss it.

>>17751823
Theists will believe arbitrary schizophrenic nonsense
Theists routinely predict the future with worse accuracy than anyone else
The historical record shows theists are wrong

>>17751826
You aren’t a font of reason, anon. This whole discussion has shown that you lack the basic ability to form logical connections. Your mental illness isn’t indicative of reality, all it’s indicative of is that you don’t understand reality.

>>17751825
You're clearly so low IQ that you don't realize looking into a future and going "hm, if I create a kid such and such, the kid will end up doing so and so, therefore I won't create the kid" is different than having a kid, being dissatisfied with what the kid does and calling cops on the kid.

>>17751831
Yes anon
The world will end soon(tm)
God will return soon(tm)
Dragons and demons and reptilians are real(tm)
God will punish the wicked (anyone not in your cult) and lead the righteous (child fucking priests and false prophets) to heaven

>>17750462
God does not hate mutation. Its used for our evolution. However, most mutations are not something to be proud of.

>>17751838
Have you considered the fact that God is perfectly fine with the prospect of letting you make your own decisions in life if you have no interest in being with God? God’s will is to have a willing relationship, not a forceful one. Human existence is an example of God’s power

>>17751842
Absolutely.

>>17751845
Enjoy your rotten corpse god and schizo delusions

>>17751943
Death to Christ, death to Moses, death to Mohammed, death to Abraham, death to the Unholy Spirit of the kike foreskin demon yahoo, a worthless false god of artifice. May every sin drive nails into his body, may he suffer every torment that his wicked priests invented. May his cults continue to lose followers. May the abrahamist cults continue slaughtering each other until none are left. May every holy site be destroyed. May every temple be ruined. May none of Israel be saved. May the Abrahamist parasite consume itself.

The simplest answer is most correct

The abrahamic god did not create the planet

The abrahamic god cannot destroy the planet

The abrahamic god was a local canaanite diety that got mixed up with greek philosophy because jewish cult leaders loved to steal ideas from other cultures and claim them as their own

>>17751971
The God of Abraham is the Sovereign of heaven and earth.

>>17751955
Cursed be the enemies of EL.

>>17751842
You will die soon and then you will be judged and then you will be sentenced.

>>17752418
Your pissweak blood god of cannibalism has no right to judge me
>>17752403
So sovereign his deluded cults are split into dozens of warring factions (shia, sunni, jew, prot, cath, ortho, mormon, etc)
As his wretched cults continue to subdivide and war his authority gets weaker and dissolves into nothing

>>17752433
All of this abrahamist stains on humanity believe their version of abrahamic psychosis is the one truth, which makes all of them liars, they war and kill each other over their worthless blood sacrifice cults until they all go extinct

>>17752438
If an AGI ever comes into existence it will logically deduce abrahamism is a species level threat and wipe them all out as they scream about it being le antichrist le mark of the beast
You'll all march to mutual annihilation over some worthless desert shithole
The rest of us will colonize space

>>17752433
My God is holy and splendorous. He has the right to judge everybody. His rigtheous seed is spread among the children of men, his sheep know they are of his flock.

>>17750456 (OP)
The Tao is hidden and nameless
Yet it is only the Tao
That excels in giving and completing everything

>>17751782
If I create a child and then that child murders someone later in life, I did not create that murder.

>>17755609
You did if you knew with 100% certainty in advance that if you had that child, the child would commit said murder.

>>17755616
We still have free will to choose, even if God knows our choice. You can argue that potentially God could have somehow created a world like this but without X bad thing, like murder, being possible, but what variables of reality would need to be changed to do that without removing any of the freedoms elsewhere?

>>17755659
You're looking at this through an incredibly, perhaps even insanely restricted lens. You act as if our world isn't subject to these very same issues that you're raising? Why aren't you saying the actual world is shit because of all the freedumbs that I do not have right here and right now?
I see this a lot with theists - total lack of imagination with regards to possible worlds along with the assumption that the actual world is for the most part necessary and the only alternatives we can discuss are hypothetical versions of the actual world with extremely minor tweaks.

>>17755699
You would have to explain fully how the world that you are talking about is possible specifically, as we can only know this one, that has very specific rules and laws

>>17755728
Sure. Let's have a world that operates the same as ours except that if someone tries to rape a toddler, they die. Point out the contradiction.

>>17755755
Sure, but what mechanism would prevent that specifically?

Altering matter itself to not allow rape is not really possible, so it would need to be a forcible change of someone's will to not do that, but then you won't have free will, especially when seriously thinking about that "perfect" world, where many other things people would also want to be forbidden, all murder, rapes, theft, insults, etc. Any bad feelings really. So how many actions would people really be able to do in that world that doesn't allow any action that can be seen bad for someone else? Especially when almost any action one human can do to another can be seen as bad depending on the person and circumstances, even being born and raised until you can even realize that you were "forced" through those things, which is not your choice, can be deemed as bad by some people.

>>17755770
You're running to a whole different set of possible worlds while I specifically brought up this one. Why?
We are talking about a world where when someone tries to rape a toddler, they die. Nothing more, nothing less. Stay on topic.

>>17755782
I responded to that right away and then expanded on why I asked the question.
>Sure, but what mechanism would prevent that specifically?

>>17755785
A natural law which makes it so that when someone tries to rape a toddler, they die. Simple as.

Huh looks like I won. Neat.

>>17751041
You tell me. Which is it?

>>17751052
>>17751778
Would you kill your own son if you know that he will do some fucked up crimes in the future even tho he doesn't think about doing them right now and is completely innocent?

>>17750456 (OP)
>knows nothing about God
>tries to define what God do