>Peter Griffin to God: "God, do Atheists go to heaven?"
>God (Acting as Seth MacFarlane's mouthpiece): "Of course Peter!"
>Peter: What about people who say they're spiritual, but not religious?"
>God: "Straight to Hell, right down into the firey pit!"
Do you agree or disagree with this philosophy?

>you will be extremist and you will like it!

>>17751227
Who is extremist here exactly?

>A comedian tells... a joke?! ARRRRRRRRGGHHHH IM GOING FUCKING INSANE HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME!?!?!?

>loving heavenly father
>who employs and threatens eternal torture to his children

only a fucking jew would try to convince you of this deranged contradictory idea

>>17751225 (OP)
>spiritual, but not religious
In practice, what does this mean?
Things like divination or fortune telling?
Leviticus 19:26 You shall not practice divination or soothsaying.

>>17751317
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ietsism

>>17751229
Both sides are absolutist while the moderate stance gets burned in the magic lava

>>17751225 (OP)
I am constantly told Marvel owns my gods, so does this mean Disney owns Christian's god?

>>17751285
Hell is a state of separation from God. The ideal of eternal conscious torture as believed by fundamentalists is a later tool for social control not attested in the scriptures.

>>17751414
Christian gaslighting

The bible explicitly let says jewgod created such an evil place

The jewgod is the one that judges and puts people there not yourself

You can argue its bullshit made by the Christ cult though. In the old testament it did not exist and several passages say you stop existing after death

>>17751424
You know, there are other biblical interpretations besides the fundamentalist one.

>>17751225 (OP)
Somewhat agree, you either believe or you don't.

>>17751227
The point is that people who are spiritualist but not religious are annoying, just like agnostics "well ackchyually we can't be sure" as though Atheists are 100% absolutely sure there is zero possibility of any higher power and the vast majority of atheists don't have varying level of agnostic beliefs.

>>17751225 (OP)
SBNR is a fucking retarded long term trend. It’s for people who can’t picture apples in their mind

>>17751285
Jews don't believe in hell or heaven btw

>>17751401
That's because "spiritual but not religious" isn't a real stance

>>17751493
The most frustrating part is Agnositicism is literally just another word used to describe Implicit Atheism. They're the same thing. Agnostics ARE atheists, but they're special snowflakes who are too afraid to call themselves that without realizing they're just describing themselves as a subset of atheism anyways.

>>17751285
You're not his child, you're his creation. The creator creates whatever he wants and he decided to create you. He made you however he wanted to and you as the created thing cannot question him as to why. You cannot tell him what to do, you cannot tell him what are you doing? If he made you that you would chose the wicked path and reject him then he created you for the day of the slaughter and that is his right. You can choose to obey him and not be proud.

Then you avoid it. But he created you so he can decide, you must humble before the fact that you are always in his hand, your destiny is always up to him. He is the decider of your life. Whether you will go to joy or you will go to suffering is always up to him. He decides, he is the gatekeeper and the judge. He opens doors that nobody can close and closes doors that nobody can open.

It is wise to seek his favor and his love. Being loved by him is the luckiest of lucks. He loves all who are rigtheous, whoever wants to be loved by God must obey his instructions. They lead to rigtheousness. God loves all who are rigtheous.

If God made you so that you would chose the path of rigtheousness and love him then nothing can stop you from worshipping him. Nothing is impossible or even too difficult for him. El can do anything. He can bless you and make you successful. He can make you lack nothing good. He can fully satisfy you. He can give you complete safety, drop your enemies at your feet. If God is on your side there is nobody who can oppose you.

You must be humble before God. He made you.

>>17751406
Why do you worship mete heroes when an Almighty God exists? It's not like you're not aware he exist, but if you're going to worship someone why not worship the God of gods instead of the gods?

Why do you bow down to someone who does down to someone else. Cut the middle man and bow down to him yourself.

>>17751424
Enoch is canon.

>>17752637
Yeah, nah you're a fag

>>17751414
>The fire is a metaphor for being cut off from God
>Matthew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
>Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
>Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
>Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

>>17751285
>only a fucking jew would try to convince you of this deranged contradictory idea
Jews didn’t come up with this idea.

>>17752898
Yeah, Christards are the only ones who came up with the idea that God MUST always be all-loving regardless if it even makes any sense or reflects any of his actions

>>17752647
And is this almighty god in the room here with us?

>>17752898
technically jews did come up with it when christianity was just a jewish sect but otherwise you're right

>>17752516
I think when most people call themselves Agnostic what they realy mean is that they're Apatheist but they are too retarded to understand words

>>17752497
Rejection of dogma is the only correct stance, because it's the only stance that can't be taken for you.

>>17753060
>Dogma
You're just an atheist anon, you don't actually understand what atheism is, and protip: it doesn't have to preclude metaphysical speculation, refer to this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglo2n2AMGc

>>17753066
do you imagine the greek suffix -ism to imply a degree of discrete formality?
what if i told you it didn't actually, that's merely a contextual addendum.

>>17753104
I don't care about what you personally think words mean you psued

>>17752998
He is with me yes.

>>17751493
Is it a sin to be annoying?

>>17751493
>>17752516
I'm agnostic personally, I don't think we can know for sure or not if God exists and don't really care if he/she/it doesn't reveal themselves to me. I think both atheists and theists are way too militant and sure of themselves.

>>17754822
Sounds crazy but those who take God seriously and bow to him daily get to experience things that cement their faith in him. God reveals himself to his true worshippers. If you take his word seriously and you follow his instructions then he will manifest in your life.

>>17754968
Most members say that of their religion. So which religion/god is true? In my opinion such an experience is due more so to an underlying psychological aspect that all people are capable of than any religion. To play devils advocate with myself I suppose some might make the argument though that all gods are really the same one god just manifested differently to people. But again, this doesn't rule out that any sort of 'experience' is could just be psychological in nature.

>>17754822
>I'm agnostic personally
You're an atheist or a confused apatheist. Agnostic just describes a form of atheism.

>>17753060
>dogma bad because.......................... SHUT UP, OKAY?!

>>17752647
Your almighty god is a jew. That's why.