French "Resistance" in WW2 - /his/ (#17752669) [Archived: 1154 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:51:40 PM No.17752669
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>French police outnumbered German garrison
>French formed SS divisions that were the last fighting at Berlin
>When the allies landed they were prevented most harshly by French allied forces, not the British-led spy rings

They made a terrible vassal for the British and Americans. Was there even a French resistance?

https://www.historynet.com/french-resistance-resistant/
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:53:48 PM No.17752679
>French formed SS divisions that were the last fighting at Berlin
Considering the circumstances it's not surprising
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:55:17 PM No.17752681
>>17752679
What do you mean by that? I can think of a long list of reasons why that was reasonable, but what made it imperative for you?
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:03:42 AM No.17752707
>>17752669 (OP)
>Was there even a French resistance?
No. It was something the French came up with after the war to make themselves look better.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:11:29 AM No.17752730
>>17752669 (OP)
>>17752707
Austria had more resistance btw
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:18:56 AM No.17752755
>>17752707
I don't think it worked lol
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:26:20 AM No.17752776
>>17752755
For a long time it did. The French "resistance" is much more well known than the much more substantial resistance in places like Yugoslavia or Greece. Honestly it's probably more well known than the actual Free French Forces among normies.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:29:53 AM No.17752791
>>17752669 (OP)
>Was there even a French resistance?
They built a 280 mile long wall to keep the Germans out
The Germans then realized they could simply march through Belgium and walk around said wall rendering it completely useless
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:37:08 AM No.17752813
>>17752791
>They built a 280 mile long wall to keep the Germans out
That's the French republic, not the French resistance™.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:47:08 AM No.17752838
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>>17752669 (OP)
>Was there even a French resistance?

Yes, there was. They even fought a few large-scale pitched battles such as the Glières plateau, Vercors, and the Liberation of Paris itself. They were just never as effective or numerous as popularly portrayed. Their contribution to intelligence was by absolutely invaluable to the Allied cause though.

>>17752681
>surrender to the Soviets
>get fed your own testicles by NKVD interrogators on account of being members of the SS

>surrender to the Western Allies
>get extradited to France and executed for treason

If I was a member of the Charlemagne Division, I probably would have done the same thing.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:52:21 AM No.17752845
>>17752838
>Glières plateau, Vercors, and the Liberation of Paris itself

I'm reading that Wikipedia page too. It's weird that there aren't any good sources on this. I'm pointed to 30 year old blog posts and a lack of actual authoritative texts. Are there any unbiased sources on this?

>Their contribution to intelligence was by absolutely invaluable to the Allied cause though.

Honestly it looks like it was the other way around. The French were feeding false intel to the liberal-Atlantic regimes.

>surrender to the Soviets
>not joining the rape

Well, you wouldn't make it with Dirlewanger so you'd have to join the French division.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:39:47 AM No.17753316
>>17752669 (OP)
>police outnumbered Garrison
They were cops, not military units. They didn't have the guns or large scale coordination to fight actual military formations in open fighting.
>French formed SS divisions that were the last fighting at Berlin
They formed one singular "division" that never even reached half strength. It was like 11,000 guys at its absolute height and was usually around 7,000. The fought until the end because by that point they knew that surrender meant that they faced return to France and execution for treason.
>When the allies landed they were prevented most harshly by French allied forces, not the British-led spy rings
Please restate this in English.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:17:09 PM No.17754777
>>17752669 (OP)
>When the allies landed they were prevented most harshly by French allied forces, not the British-led spy rings
…what???
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:52:15 PM No.17754870
>>17752669 (OP)
The real purpose of the french resistance was to free the country from foreign occuper. Not the german occuper, but the US-UK occupation that would have vassalised the country after the war is over. Because of the Vichy state, France could have been considered an ennemy nation and be treated as such, like Italy, Japan or Germany. Instead, France occupied a piece of Germany, got a siege at the UN security council, made up its own nuke, get mostly independant (but not totally, due to marshall plan).
The US initially wanted to crush France's sovereignity : liberated area admistrated by US officers, US made money in circulation...
No matter how the resistance truly helped the allies against the nazi, it's true success alongside with DeGaulle was to be perceived legitimate enough to allow the country to exist not as a puppet state.