Seems like tradition is winning bigly to me. We will have trad wives again soon enough.

If the fad doesn't die soon, the nations it infests will.

>>17754669 (OP)
Christianity is atheism with one exception

Just because atheists are prone to degeneracy doesn't mean they're wrong. They are the nihilists Nietzsche spoke of who have not yet figured out an übermensch philosophy with the same power as religion, they tried socialism and communism, but it turned out to be utter shit, some fascists are atheists or at least reject mainstream religion, but we know what happened there.

>>17754672
The winds of change are here.
>>17754684
>>17754691
The United States was made for Christian ideals and Christian people.

>>17754799
>The United States was made for Christian ideals and Christian people.
The founding fathers were Luciferian freemasons

>>17754691
Transition is the ubermensch philosophy

>>17754806
John Adams was a literal quaker.

>>17754799
>The United States was made for Christian ideals and Christian people.
So why separate church and state?

>>17754821
You don't understand what that means.

>>17754810
He was a Federalist and Federalists were evil

>>17754837
>the country was specifically made for religion X
>but the founders also specifically forbid even establishing any official religion

>>17754669 (OP)
The only places Christianity is on the rise is African and Asian shitholes. Enjoy them! Those niggers and gooks are your brothers and sisters! They're your responsibility now! Lol. Lmao.

>>17754877
Why are you filled with so much hate?

>>17754894
What hate? Love your brown brothers. They're yours! It's your responsibility to keep them! Lol.

>>17754821
>>17754876
Separation of church and state is not separation of God and state.

>>17755032
If it explicitly forbids the adoption of a state religion then yes it is, it is literally separating God and God's religion from the state

>>17754669 (OP)
Nah. They won.
>>17754799
>The United States was made for Christian ideals and Christian people.
Which is why they promptly abolished religious restrictions for running for office soon after independence.

>>17755032
>>17755044
Even if God is not separated from state, then whatever is going on with the state is between the state and God, and if God has anything to do with it, then God can actLively involve himself.
If not, then we are pretty much left to our own devices.
I'd like to point out that religion rots brains.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/religious-experiences-shrink-part-of-brain/

>>17755044
It does not forbid this, it forbids a state church. That is what "establishment of religion" meant in 1789. Also most states had a state church prior to incorporation.
>>17755106
God actively involves Himself when He allows your heart to beat, fool

>>17754799
Our third president was not a Christian. There were multiple non-Christians who signed the declaration of independence.

>>17755121
Who were heavily influenced by a Christian worldview and believed the Christian religion was in important glue for the fabric of society and preservation of freedom.

>>17755117
>God actively involves Himself when He allows your heart to beat, fool
I sleep.

>>17755130
>preservation of freedom
What freedoms?

>>17755138
Freedom from the control of a despotic state
"Our Constitution is intended only for a moral and religious people, it is wholly unsuited to the governance of any other" - John Adams

>>17755130
If by "Christian worldview" you mean the "Scottish enlightenment". They thought many common "Christian worldviews" back in Europe were superstitious nonsense that served tyrants.

>>17754669 (OP)
>Seems like
Proofs?

>>17755149
No, I mean the Christian worldview, i.e. recognition and submission to the Lordship or Jesus Christ over all things. The fruits of the endarkenment are what we're seeing now.

>>17755155
>The fruits of the endarkenment are what we're seeing now.
There would be no declaration of independence or constitution in the form we know them without that "endarkenment" Jefferson thought the leading figures of that movement were some of the finest thinkers who ever lived.

>>17755158
Jefferson was the least respectable of them.

>>17754898
Enjoy burning in hell asshole

>>17754669 (OP)
No. Secularism is on the rise almost everywhere in the world. Younger generations believe less and less in gods and other supernational beings.

>>17755144
>Freedom from the control of a despotic state
But Christians seem to heavily favor the leader who is trying to centralize as much power as possible?

>>17755176
Harris would be closing churches with federal troops for transphobia.

>>17755178
Just like Biden? Just like Obama?
Just like Clinton?

>>17755176
>centralize power
>by dissolving the deep state

>>17755178
>>17755180
Like, I would have loved for any of them to at least tax churches. But did they?

>>17755169
And he wrote the declaration. Even the Christian founders were admirers of the Scottish enlightenment. This isn't even controversial. You still see Conservative American Christians cite thinkers of the Scottish enlightenment.

>>17755180
>>17755184
Yes.

>>17755189
You are a very silly person.

>>17755188
More so Locke.

>>17755204
Locke, Smith. About the only one modern conservatives don't bring up positively is Hume. The point however is that without the Scottish Enlightenment, modern America does not exist.

Lying to yourself and believing things that aren't true or verifiable just because you want them to be is becoming less popular.

>>17755227
>The point however is that without the Scottish Enlightenment, modern America does not exist.
True, the warmongering, LGBT-affirming, feminist satanic America wouldn't exist

>>17755189
>It was real in my imagination

>>17754691
They wrong because they deny God. That makes them fools according to God.

>>17754669 (OP)
>tradition is winning
Elaborate on this.
What tradition?

>>17755357
I don't know, I just repeat something the influencer I follow said

>>17754799

>>17755376
>sourceless quotes
>idiot tranny who made this didn't even read it (Madison quotes are pro-Christian)

>>17755357
Traditionalism making a huge comeback in 2 more weeks, after all the based and trad mexican replace all the ebil ypipo

/his/ is more schizophrenic than /x/. honestly just shut it down

>>17755284
If you reject the Scottish enlightenment you reject the founders and founding documents and are in no way a patriotic American and have no business trying to represent yourself as such. You don't want a democracy where the majority are Christian, you want a theocracy

>>17755547
>If you reject the Scottish enlightenment you reject the founders and founding documents
The founding fathers were not perfect. There was some influence from the endarkenment and they did not create a perfect system. However, what they did and believed was fundamentally grounded in a Christian worldview, it is no wonder they would not recognize this country which has become not less "enlightened", but less godly.
>You don't want a democracy where the majority are Christian, you want a theocracy
Correct

>>17754669 (OP)
>tradition
This idiotic meme, it’s sad to see it reposted so much. Live how you want, not how some internet memester says to

>>17755565
>Correct
Fuck off with your lies then. you said the US was made for Christian people and ideals. Then you tried to deny the founders were influenced by deists and enlightenment philosophers, now you reject democracy and call the founders work "not perfect" while still talking about a christian world view. Newsflash a deists like Jefferson and Franklin did not support:
>recognition and submission to the Lordship or Jesus Christ over all things.
You just make up shit to support what you want. I don't know what Church taught you to lie for the sake of winning, but I'm glad I wasn't raised in it.

>>17755741
>you said the US was made for Christian people and ideals.
It was
>tried to deny the founders were influenced by deists and enlightenment philosophers
No I didn't
>now you reject democracy
So did the founding fathers, incidentally
>You just make up shit to support what you want. I don't know what Church taught you to lie for the sake of winning, but I'm glad I wasn't raised in it.
Seething

>>17755584
>what worked for thousands of years is an idiotic meme
kek

>>17754669 (OP)
I liked him when he gave it hard to (hollywood) right in the middle of the Oscars
t. Christian

>>17755584
>Live how you want
When people say this they mean "live how I want"

>>17755178
Better than what the old fat orange slob fuck retard diabetic landwhale pedo rapist is doing.

>>17755761
>It was
>>>17755376
Guy posted a bunch of quotes of the founders saying the opposite.If the founders wanted a Christian nation they would have put it in the constitution. They didn't even require immigrants to be Christian.
>So did the founding fathers, incidentally
They rejected Greek style direct democracy. We use the word differently today to mean republican government. Everyone who passed grade school civics should know this.
>Seething
Yes, I seethe at people who hate this country and try to undermine it.

>>17755948
>Guy posted a bunch of quotes
Wow a meme I'm btfo
>They rejected Greek style direct democracy. We use the word differently today to mean republican government. Everyone who passed grade school civics should know this.
You're wrong.
>Yes, I seethe
I can see that
>who hate this country and try to undermine it
That's you, modernist

>>17755917
Dilate

>>17755917
Is that true?

>>17755958
>Wow a meme I'm btfo
being that those quotes are legit, yes, a meme beat you.,
>You're wrong.
I am not. Only a pendant insists that the modern use of the word democracy does not denote a republic in common speech.
>That's you, modernist
I'm not the one who said he supports a theocracy, in direct contravention of the constitution.

>>17754672
>satanism is a religion for lgbt
christ gave them demon obsession

>>17757360
Why would Christ do that?

>>17755171
Enjoy your gooks and niggers! Your brothers and sisters! They're just as Christian as you are! They're the future of Christendom!

>>17757899
Why are you so antagonistic towards other races?

>>17756292
>being that those quotes are legit, yes, a meme beat you.
Atheist "scholarship"

>>17754669 (OP)
A fucking comedian is the champion of atheism? What a laugh.

>>17758272
Religious people are a good source of comedy.

>>17757948
So which one of them is fake? Also the alternative to your brand of Christianity isn't atheism. None of those guys were atheists, though Jefferson made clear he didn't care what his neighbors believed about God or gods.

>>17757928
Atheism rejects Christ's message of global togetherness.

>>17754799
>17754806
>17755067
>17755376
>17755382
>>17755948
>Muh Founding Fathers would have supported muh gay tranny liberalsm

Washington: Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. (His Farewell Address)

John Adams: "The Bible contains the most profound philosophy, the most perfect morality, and the most refined policy that ever was conceived upon earth" (.).

Thomas Jefferson: "The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. … Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian"

James Madison: "A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest while we are building ideal monuments of Renown and Bliss here we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven"

John Quincy Adams: "The hope of a Christian is inseparable from his faith. Whoever believes in the divine inspiration of the Holy Scriptures must hope that the religion of Jesus shall prevail throughout the earth"

Andrew Jackson: "The Bible is the rock on which this Republic rests" (.).

Abraham Lincoln: "In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this Book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it" (.).

Theodore Roosevelt: "The teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our whole civic and social life that it would be literally — I do not mean figuratively, I mean literally — impossible for us to figure to ourselves what that life would be if these teachings were removed" (.).