What caused this?

>>17757335 (OP)
Leaded gasoline

US keeps fear propaganda constant

The evil empire always needs to have an enemy to keep the subjects distracted and obedient

>>17757335 (OP)
Amerigoy stupidity coupled with the West operating the most powerful and effective propaganda machine in human history
Its the same today really. If you ask the average americattle why Chyna is le bad he'll babble something about muh gommunism despite most americattle not even knowing what gommunism is

>>17757335 (OP)
Soviets knew that the whole nuclear war thing is just propaganda their government does to make retarded americans give in to their threats/demands
Still works today

>>17757335 (OP)

>>17757335 (OP)
Freedom of speech. The Soviet system couldn't handle minor politicians going around spreading fear, it's just not the way they're structured to work. In the West pretty much anyone can claim whatever they want, the media can and will run fearmongering campaigns without any regards for the ruling power or system, it's probably how most presidents got into power during the Cold War, fear of communism. In the USSR they always had the same people in charge, no space for minor politicians or even a former movie star to start making wild claims about the ruling elite and the foreign enemies in order to become leader.
Their propaganda was top-down and consistent, if you're wondering what would the Soviet equivalent of that image be, I'd say you could grab some propaganda talking point like "I have access to better healthcare and food than other countries" and most Soviets would ignorantly answer "yes" despite being poor af, meanwhile, Americans with actual healthcare and an abundance of food will answer that they're starving and lack everything, and that the rest of the world is better than them.

>>17757440
>"I have access to better healthcare and food than other countries" and most Soviets would ignorantly answer "yes"
That was literally true, thoughever
They had better healthcare and access to food for the average person than most countries, including USA

>>17757440
>freedom of speech

LOOOOOOOOOL

99% of media you are exposed to are owned by the same dozen spooks, jews and glowies

>>17757461
I'm sure they had.
>>17757467
Doesn't matter. I didn't write freedom of jews, did I? The point here is: a person like Mccarthy couldn't exist in the Soviet system. A US politician starts claiming "we're all going to die", and people will agree, say "yeah, that's what we have NATO for"
The same couldn't happen in 1950s USSR. The Warsaw Pact wasn't justified in the same way, there were lot of tensions, the Eastern block was mostly there against their will. If the USSR started running a systematic fear campaign against a foreign threat, countries like Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia would simply try to leave even harder than they already did in real life.

>>17757481
you consume state propaganda all the same. only with more deceit and obfuscation.

>>17757335 (OP)
Americans saw the soviets as suicidal subhumans who would fire first, while the Soviets had a much more optimistic view of Americans being rational. Also America had nukes first and didn’t strike the Soviets when they had a monopoly on the technology, so there was already some basis for trusting that Americans would not initiate the war.

>>17757488
>pic
Crazy how hard America fumbled World hegemony. Then again, the same happened to the Greeks after Alexander where military power was just the death scream of a culture.

>>17757488
Yeah. I'm aware. Here in Brazil I'm upper middle class, that's why I can speak English, my family was able to afford proper education for me. Among my peers, those that work for the government get great benefits and a lot of them consistently vote left wing since the 90s. Since I'm a man, not some frail old woman, I usually walk outside quite a lot, in public transportation too, whenever I mention with them how crackheads are awful or the cracolândia is hell on Earth, they'll tell me that it's not that bad, and that even though we live in Rio and they see violence on TV all the time, in real life it's not that bad.
So yes, I know about state propaganda. That does not change the fact that OP question wasn't about the topics you replied, OP question was why that effect happened, and if you replaced the words I used with more neutral words, the point would have stood exactly the same.
So, let me ask something, how the fuck do you get anything done in your life being this autistic over a simple choice of words?

>>17757525
>Patriotard
>Is actually from braapzil
Every time.

>>17757527
How the fuck did you reach that conclusion? I don't like the US at all.

>>17757532
You said the Soviets had worse healthcare than the third world.

>>17757488
Hilarious that capitalism + nigs still loses to communism - nigs

>>17757488
The new York and Moscow metros were the exact same in the 80s

>>17757538
That is correct. I have said that. Now, can you please explain to me how that makes me a patriot?

>>17757525
If you do not understand the correlation I'm presenting then you are a brainlet

>>17757546
>being a patriot is being naturally distrustful of public healthcare and the government due to living in Brazil

>>17757545
Let me speak your language:
UUUUU UUUU UUU AAAAA AAA
HU HU HU AAAAAA U U U AAA
*throws feces*

>Nobody in this thread has actually posted the real answer yet

This was a poll of teens in the 80s. At that time, Reagan’s hyper patriotism was in vogue amongst younger Americans, while conversely, teens in the USSR had a boner for America and didn’t really view them with much disdain at all.

>>17757612
>didn't view them with disdain
A cardinal error.

>>17757488
Imagine if you traveled back in time to the 60's and told people that in the 2020's Russia lost a war against Ukraine

>>17757632
How delusional do you have to be to think Russia lost this?

>>17757639
Just two more weeks right?

>>17757642
This type of talk does more to damage Ukraine and the West's war efforts than any FSB zigger could hope to achieve

How did commies know that fancy public transport stations would mindbreak westoids for decades to come?
Any argument about socioeconomic conditions in shithole countries gets resolved by simply appealing to subway_station.jpg

>>17757667
To be fair the condition of a subway station is one indicator of how much wealth a society spends to uplift its poorest.

>>17757672
Soviet/Russian society's poorest don't use subway stations because they don't live in the Moscow/SpB city-states that serve as advertisements for westoids, they live in decrepit tenements and work the nickel mines in Norilsk or the steel megamills in Chelyabinsk

>>17757672
Not really. If anything it’s kind of a testament to the decentralization of wealth in the west that a city like NYC can simultaneously look either better or worse than a humble rural town depending on which parts you’re looking at, while commies ravage 99% of their countryside just so they can pimp out train stations in 1 or 2 major cities.

>>17757744
Norilsk despite its reputation isn't the worst place to live in. The pollution is extreme and if you're gonna try to live Petersburg lifestyle there you'll go bankrupt because the remoteness fucks up the prices, but the wages iirc are way above Russian average so it's a good place to live hermit mode for a few years and then move to more civilised region.
If you're looking for shitholes look at random towns between Volga, Ural and Caucasus or something or in some ethnic regions east of Urals.

>>17757520
Greek culture was fine, and they spread it far and wide centuries after Alexander. Its death scream only happened centuries later when the Byzantines finally collapsed.

>>17757565
>decides to turn into a literal ape because a Brasilchad completely owns him
Typical Jew Derangement Syndrome

>>17757461
>They had better healthcare and access to food for the average person than most countries, includin...ACK!
USSR life conditions were in free fall since 1963 but Soviet propaganda made excellent job painting "everything is good!". You are great example of this.
It's absolutely inpredecent for 20th century for life expectancy to fall during peace time. This line only goes up universally across globe, thanks to West created progress. But Soviet commies found ways to go backwards in time.

>>17757335 (OP)
Jews.

>>17757672
USA cars per 1000 in 1980 - 544
USSR cars per 1000 in 1980 - 59.
Passenger car was the most desirable long term good. Man with a car was epitome "he won life" image, while in USA car was everyday commodity.

>>17757848
Oh BTW cultural difference question.
Why does this famous Soviet man holds windshield wipers in his hand?

>>17757820
Cope. Your latinx dumpster is viewed as a shit hole by everyone.

>>17757642
Do you think North Vietnam lost the Vietnam war?
Do you think North Korea lost the Korean war?

>>17757335 (OP)

US operates on fear.
USSR operates on ignorance.

>>17757639
Its a pyrrhic victory at best because it will take years and millions of casualties to take just the Donbass, if they even manage to do that

>>17757481
Propaganda really works on me. I always thought this pic was of fresh meats and veggies. But it's all popsicles.

The big promise of capitalism is "Here's an endless selection of dyed sugar water".

>>17757828

biggest health issue in 1960s-1980s ussr was arguably alcoholism. alcohol was cheap and plentiful. drinking of the job was considered normal. you can see there was a jump in the mid 1980s, that was when Gorbachev tried prohibition.
America had similar issues with alcoholism in early 20th century, and prohibition greatly reduced that. yes, people still drank, but they switched over from hard liquor to beer

>>17758222
>biggest health issue in 1960s-1980s ussr was arguably alcoholism. alcohol was cheap and plentiful. drinking of the job was considered normal.
Yeah nice cope.
>it's not failure of communism it's le Russians been alcoholics!
Nice escape bruh (like alcoholism wasn't the problem for Russia before uwu, Stalin literally forced feed Russian teen soldier's vodka during WWII, but wasn't a problem dragging USSR down until Nikita Khrushchev was outsided from power).

>>17757488
Good thing nobody takes trains.

>>17757335 (OP)
Soviets lying about their statistics and American believing their statistics.

>>17757866
so they don't get stolen
he has to take them with him when he parks
(only know this because of russian gf)

>>17758763
Wait, theft WAS THAT rampant in socialist Soviet paradise?

>>17759000
crime got really bad in late 80s
you won't guess what also happened in late 80s

>>17757372
China is bad because they fancy themselves a polar power and they're not America. America is the only polar power. Simple as.

Its not that complicated, its just that shitters like yourself will never accept simple zero-sum reasoning in a zero-sum game and will probably say something vaguely faggoty like
>But its not good to want your geopolitical enemies broken and raped because muh climate change or muh nooks
...Or something.

But its really just as simple as Chinese being human AIDS because they're not Americans and are not endeavoring to be Americans, which all human beings should either endeavor to be or fuck off into irrelevancy and get out of the way.

>>17757660
da bleat, let's go to sleep now

>>17759000
It's not crime as there is no private property

>>17759488
>because they're not Americans and are not endeavoring to be Americans, which all human beings should either endeavor to be
Why would anyone endeavor to be a fat, brown, retarded, fentanyl-addicted golem

>>17759457
That pic >>17757848 is from 1976

>>17759488
>zogbot babble

>>17758215
You need the first before you can waste space on the second.

>>17757386
Holy fuck, that's funny

>>17757660
that doesn't say much

>>17758206
TRVTH

>>17757488
>be America
>become Global Hegemon
>with an economic and geopolitical and strategic situation that basically means you're playing the game on easy mode with all the cheats turned on
>Still fumble things catastrophically, to the point where your own allies know they can't trust you
>Look like you're going to fade out into irrelevance before you've even celebrated a full century
How?

>>17757335 (OP)
>If X happens, when will it happen?
>X wont happen
Soviet kids are clearly bad at conditional probability