Anonymous
6/12/2025, 2:41:29 PM No.17757465
How did Western communist parties and intellectuals react to the collapse of the Soviet Union?
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 2:48:41 PM No.17757480
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:01:23 PM No.17757518
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:17:14 PM No.17757559
>>17757465 (OP)
Most hardcore lefties in the west had already started falling out of love with the USSR’s brand of communism by the late 80s and quietly rebranded themselves as socialists. By the time the Soviet Union collapsed, they were already prepared with the cope that it wasn’t true gommunism anyway.
Most hardcore lefties in the west had already started falling out of love with the USSR’s brand of communism by the late 80s and quietly rebranded themselves as socialists. By the time the Soviet Union collapsed, they were already prepared with the cope that it wasn’t true gommunism anyway.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:18:05 PM No.17757561
>>17757465 (OP)
You've never hear someone say "It wasn't (((real))) gommunism!"?
You've never hear someone say "It wasn't (((real))) gommunism!"?
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:13:32 PM No.17757701
>>17757559
>by the late 80s
More like by the late 60s. Most western leftists went all in on Maoism then, which ran into its own challenges soon enough. By 1980 I think communism was essentially dead as an ideology in the west.
>by the late 80s
More like by the late 60s. Most western leftists went all in on Maoism then, which ran into its own challenges soon enough. By 1980 I think communism was essentially dead as an ideology in the west.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:47:22 PM No.17757800
>>17757701
Why were they so fucking annoying when I went to college then?
Why were they so fucking annoying when I went to college then?
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:50:14 PM No.17757809
>>17757800
It may have resurrected later through some way or another but it's not the same people.
It may have resurrected later through some way or another but it's not the same people.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:42:15 PM No.17757993
>>17757465 (OP)
From what I've heard there were big splits. The CPUSA ruptured as some stayed and others left to become democratic socialist types (although the CPUSA is largely that now anyways). Angela Davis was one of those who stepped away. There's a website called Portside that also emerged from that split: https://portside.org/
>>17757559
>>17757701
That too. The New Left could be called neo-Marxist rather than Marxist in the orthodox sense. It was strongly influenced by Maoism and revolutionary movements in the third world, and also had neo-anarchist tendencies. The overall vibe was deeply distrustful of the old leftist parties and their ideology.
It couldn't be defined in terms of class either. In the U.S., it was a mix of intellectuals, groups from the civil rights movement, radical youth groups, and radicalized people from the underprivileged ghetto minorities. This was a nightmare constellation from the point-of-view of the old left as it didn't fit the template from Karl Marx. But the vast majority of the American working class had been integrated into the system and didn't want a radical transformation of the state and society, so it didn't matter what the left did or didn't do.
It was still a bit different in Europe at that time.
From what I've heard there were big splits. The CPUSA ruptured as some stayed and others left to become democratic socialist types (although the CPUSA is largely that now anyways). Angela Davis was one of those who stepped away. There's a website called Portside that also emerged from that split: https://portside.org/
>>17757559
>>17757701
That too. The New Left could be called neo-Marxist rather than Marxist in the orthodox sense. It was strongly influenced by Maoism and revolutionary movements in the third world, and also had neo-anarchist tendencies. The overall vibe was deeply distrustful of the old leftist parties and their ideology.
It couldn't be defined in terms of class either. In the U.S., it was a mix of intellectuals, groups from the civil rights movement, radical youth groups, and radicalized people from the underprivileged ghetto minorities. This was a nightmare constellation from the point-of-view of the old left as it didn't fit the template from Karl Marx. But the vast majority of the American working class had been integrated into the system and didn't want a radical transformation of the state and society, so it didn't matter what the left did or didn't do.
It was still a bit different in Europe at that time.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:52:18 PM No.17758033
>>17757809
For awhile during the post-Cold War period, the main campus group in the U.S. seemed to be the International Socialist Organization (ISO), which was a Trotskyist group. I think they could sort of serve as a loose enough catch-all for left-wing students. They imploded though. Nowdays it's the DSA, which is the big-tent org, and also the PSL as the main "tankie" group, and which is now becoming a bit of a bogeyman for the right. Again this is very U.S. though.
For awhile during the post-Cold War period, the main campus group in the U.S. seemed to be the International Socialist Organization (ISO), which was a Trotskyist group. I think they could sort of serve as a loose enough catch-all for left-wing students. They imploded though. Nowdays it's the DSA, which is the big-tent org, and also the PSL as the main "tankie" group, and which is now becoming a bit of a bogeyman for the right. Again this is very U.S. though.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:14:31 PM No.17758110
>>17758033
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Is always interesting to notice that all across documented history possers hipsters mods punks and rags have visually exposed genocide after genocide