Why is Christianity only increasing in the third world?

Because the first world is distracted by hedonistic materialism

>>17757895 (OP)
Third Worlders haven't been ZOGed thoroughly like whites yet. Good for them, bad for us. This is not an embarrassment for Christianity, it's an embarrassment for the white race lol. And we're at the beginning of a religious revival in Western countries anyway, provided things go well.

Bible-believing churches are growing in the first world

>>17757895 (OP)
Christian conservative whites have above replacement TFR, while liberal atheists have Korea-tier TFR. The reason their numbers go in opposite ways is due to social contagion; the allure of college, especially prominent among females. Biology always trumps social contagions in the long run though, unless you seriously think that the LGBT share of the population will only keep increasing and increasing forever despite their inability to reproduce biologically.

>>17757905
Based; desert cultists want you to be miserable praisimg some volcano god

>>17757931
Wow BASED monkeypox-spreading trannies

>>17757920
Empty buildings

>>17757926
The thing is that as the Western world grows more conservative, much of social engineering and peer pressure methods used to destroy religious communities will be dismantled or heavily sidelined such that it will be increasingly more possible for people to enforce their own communal standards and thus extensively curb apostasy. Much to be whitepilled about.

>>17757935
>what about!
Also, why do you browse such subreddits?

>>17757941
The finest copium ever seen

>>17757959
What do you mean "what about"? That is the logical conclusion to hedonism and materialism. Why do you obsess over Christians on 4chan either? Resentful we're happier and more fulfilled than you'll ever be?

>>17757967
You resorted to whataboutism; this conceding

>>17757963
Everyone already knows you're a pajeet tranny who likes to take it up the ass. Let it go.

>>17757936
Now this is cope.

>>17757974
You resorted to coping, this is embarrassing

>>17757967
>The Skoptsy[1] (Russian: cкoпцы, Russian pronunciation: [skɐpˈtsɨ]; sg. Russian: cкoпeц, lit.'eunuch') were a cult[2] within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire. They were best known for practising emasculation of men, the mastectomy and female genital mutilation of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.
Such fullfilled people!

>>17757920
Are they? Or has the third world just come to the first and padding out the numbers?

>>17757978
>Now this is cop-ack!

>>17757941
I'm mostly optimistic, although I think a severe economic crisis would ne neccessary in the process, mostly due to resource scarcity. Can't see a return to moral society without the destruction of the Professional-Managerial Class.
My main concern is the screens; all the stimulation devices like TVs, phones, computers etc. without them there would have been no counter-culture to begin with, and you can't make them go away. You can't exactly unlearn the technology, and bans can only be effective with the kind of government control you would expect from asian societies that are perhaps incompatible with western behavior. I can't stress this enough, you can't just have a mass-media pop-culture society like the one we have since the mid-20th century and expect it to remain moral, even if you try to control that media yourself. I think it's inherently bound to become godless. That would be the next obstacle, and so it's my main concern about the future.

>>17757997
>apostate rainbow flag churches are dying
Praise God

>>17757984
>pointing to a minor fleeting cult in a single part of Christendom
Man, this is getting really sad. But you can't even say what they did was bad anyway, seeing as how without God morality isn't real, and on hedonistic materialism, all are free to pursue what gives them subjective pleasure.

>>17758003
>the last desperate breaths of Christianity in western nations are stopping
ftfy

>>17758003
>church attendance failing is because the churches were gay or something
The desert demon worshippers dwindle and infight... soon it will be over

>>17757926
>Biology always trumps social contagions in the long run
christianity's initial spread was via social contagion. That it's death will be too is quite appropriate.

>>17758007
Those aren't Christians
>>17758009
>>church attendance failing is because the churches were gay or something
Yes. The apostate mainline churches are syncretists with *your* religion and that's why they are dying. They have nothing to offer to Christ's sheep because they have no truth, and they have nothing to offer to you degenerates because they don't host orgies or sell drugs.

>>17758005
>I can point to small minorities but you can't!
Cope
>For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.
Accept paul's teachings or you will burn

>>17758012
False equivalence. If 2 competing sides both have above replacement TFR, then social contagion can be a deciding factor. But if one side lacks fertility, they will always lose in the long run.

>>17758016
>Those aren't Christians
So Christianity is almost extinct in the West™.

>>17758020
>But if one side lacks fertility, they will always lose in the long run.
Irrelevant if your people abandon your religion

>>17757997
Religiosity has been on the upswings for the past several years, actually. Hence all the reports of young men joining Catholic and Orthodox parishes en masse. Atheist liberalism has left people without a sense of purpose and meaning, no grander anchor for their lives or role to play; it is inevitable people will increasingly turn to different forms of religion to find meaning and order in a disintegrating society. Unfortunately for your copes, people are overwhelmingly online today, so online threads are indeed indicative of IRL trends. Your personal seethe against Christianity isn't going to convince people that their anomie, listlessness and lack of belonging can be resolved in an atheistic paradigm.

Also trannies are the logical conclusion of atheism, so you can't use that meme lmao

>>17758025
>Hence all the reports of young men joining Catholic and Orthodox parishes en masse
Ortholarper and cathobros larping online isn't a revival; all statistic point to inesorable death of the cult yhwh the desert demon, hail lord Athe!

>>17758019
82% of atheists are Democrats.
67% are liberals.
93% support homosexuality.
96% favour gay marriage.
95% support abortion in all instances.
62% believe immigration has improved the US, 24% that it has made no difference.

What minority? Trannyism is the ethos of atheism and you have no grounds on hedonistic materialism to oppose it.

Also I do accept St Paul's teachings — hence why we have celibate monks.

>>17758034
>ignores everything said in the post
https://nypost.com/2024/12/03/us-news/young-men-are-converting-to-orthodox-christianity-in-droves/

>>17758051
>the magic jew wants me to vote republican
The absolute state of Christianity.

>>17758025
You mean the lonely wierdos who treat going to church as a dating agency and will move on to Islam or Hinduism when THOSE become the contrarian based and trad religion that hands you an obedient demure (but also a psychopath in the bedroom) wife just for walking through the door.

>>17758056
>nypost
Larping online isn't a revival; the end of christianite is nigh

>>17758020
christianization started in urban centers, which at the time bled population to disease and had to be continually replaced by immigration from the pagan countryside. We're seeing a similar thing happen now. christians in rural areas have kids that move to the city for work and then abandon their religion.
And since there is no end to this trend in sight, it's christianity that's on the clock. Every person that leaves (or never adopts) christianity but still breeds pushes the religion further towards irrelevance.

>>17758012
Actually, Rodney Stark has demonstrated that Christianity grew as a combination of fertility trends, such as its banning abortion, contraception, the murder of young female children and babies because of their being seen as inferior to male ones, etc. as well as its appeal to converts.

>>17758051
>completely irrelevant statistics
You are letting down jesus with your inability to argue coherent thoughts; now accept paul's call to be an eunuch

>>17758024
As I said, fertility wins in the long run. Your case would have held if religious fertility was skewed by age demographics, but no, young Christian conservatives are also above replacement. Think of what this current social contagion rests upon? Think about the order it relies upon, especially on the material(economic) aspect? Do you see it lasting? Do you think the gravy train will last forever? I don't.
>Every person that leaves (or never adopts) christianity but still breeds pushes the religion further towards irrelevance
Good thing they don't breed then.
>there is no end to this trend in sight
Logically you should invest in green companies seeing as you think scarcity won't be hitting us

>>17758078
forgot to quote >>17758069

>>17758061
Now THIS is cope.

>>17758065
Congregations increasing 5 to 10x isn't LARPing online. And as I said, "LARPing online" has IRL effects. Everyone is terminally online today. You might've known that if you weren't a mentally ill Indian in his 40s.

>>17758025
>Religiosity has been on the upswings for the past several years, actually.
It increased very slightly 2 of the last 3 years after two decades of consistent decline, and it so happens to coincide with narcissistic e-celebs zoomers worship "converting" while living the same decadent con artist lives.

And retards like you think this means your god's winning bigly.

>>17758082
>Congregations increasing 5 to 10x isn't LARPing online.
It is when it's not happening, also take your meds; yhwhism is on its way out

>>17758023
Nope

>>17758090
God is always winning

>>17758074
>hedonistic materialism is based
>so you support trannies
>eeerm no! goy actually we atheists are the most based rw demographic of all! trannies are just a minority!
>actually you are the most libtarded group after Jews
>REEEEEEEEEEE
It's pretty clear you don't even have consistent beliefs, you're just grasping at straws as it suits you in the moment because of childish spite against your parents.

I have Ricky Gervais fatigue

>>17758091
That is literally what is happening though lmao. Don't you have some medications for schizophrenia you need to take?

>>17758108
>a small minority does things I don't like
>a small minorityvin my religion doing so is irrelevant though
You sound like the one with inconsistent beliefs; heed the call of paul

>>17757895 (OP)
Closer to the earth = more soul, corpo nigger.

>>17758124
Did your evangelical parents drop you on your head as a baby? Atheists support trannies overwhelmingly. You literally defended hedonistic materialism in this very thread. How can you oppose trannyism yet also support hedonism, retard?

>>17758121
>bro it's happening despite all statistics showing the opposite
It's happening like jesus' second coming (two more weeks)

>>17758124
If you deviate from Orthodoxy you're not Christian. Unitarians aren't Christian even when they call themselves such. Likewise hedonistic cults are not Christian as well.

>>17758101
>God is always winning

>>17758133
>How can you oppose trannyism yet also support hedonism, retard?
Because they aren't the same, also insulting people is a sin, you will burn

>>17758090
Online religiosity was and is expanding prior to Fuentes and independently of him. Indeed, Fuentes is a symptom, not the cause, as he but rode the coattails of Catholic revivalism.

But yeah, we're winning bigly.

>>17758136
Says who?

>Picrel: Anons ITT
Ultimately, none of you people actually believe this shit. This whole
>Religion is a useful lie
Shit won’t last if the population is self-aware of it.

>>17758143
>Online religiosity was and is expanding prior to Fuentes
Wow dysgenic retard porn-addicted losers say they're supertrad gigachad 1950s hot dog ad daddies on online polls. This is what keeps atheists from sleeping at night!

>>17758144
Do you think Christians should be forced to acknowledge Unitarians as fellow Christians?

>>17758150
I don't care; who said that if you aren't orthodox you aren't christian

>>17758150
>>17758157
Unironically this little wrinkle is the cause of most wars in history. Good job fellas.

>>17758141
Trannies are sexual degenerates who feel pleasure at the sexual phantasy of becoming a woman; the entire ethos of their existence is the pursuit of hedonistic fulfillment. Hedonism entails a relativistic ambivalence to what others seek to pleasure themselves with — it does entail an amoralist lack of concern with others, at least when applied truly consistent, but that is not the prevailing form of hedonism, which entails a social contract between all men not to interfere in each other's pursuit of pleasure, and it can't normatively stigmatize trannyism anyway.

What a lolcow you are lol

>>17758162
>words words words
Yhwh is losing

>>17758149
>Wow dysgenic retard porn-addicted losers
But enough about atheism...

>>17758162
This only works if you don't indulge in Schadenfreude. Well?

>>17758167
>destroying civilization so I can indulge in degenerate selfish hedonism
Man why are young people increasingly rejecting atheism, I wonder?

>>17757911
Christianity only ever lasted in the first world while apotasy was illegal and jew worshippers were going around burning people alive for not worshipping their dead jewish man. As soon as they started to lose their hold, everyone realised it was fucking retarded and now it only exists amongst whites as a minor fifth column golem sect devoted to bringing in more immigrants and supporting Israel.

>>17758174
>dodges the challenge
Thanks for playing.

>>17758058
>God wants me to vote Republican
Yes, absolutely. How is this an own?

>>17758164
Bible-believing churches are still growing. Yahweh wins

>>17758180
What challenge? You are a mentally ill subhuman freak, a psychotic mentally deficient subhuman abomination, a sick weirdo. I think you should be gutted like a swine.

>>17758197
kek, he mad and retarded.

>>17757895 (OP)
Why is a 70 IQ religion doing so well among the 70 IQ?

>>17758199
he's right though

>>17758208
If you think the best way to litigate man in the sky is screeching assblasted autism you are also mad and retarded.

>>17758166
Your concession is much appreciated, Jew worshiper.

>>17758179
Atheists support immigration far more than Christians do. The truth, the logical conclusion of hedonism is individualistic solipsism, a vain concern with one's own pleasure, rather than seeing one's community as an organic whole spiritually bound together towards a common end and destiny, an uprooting of the individual from his wider surroundings, no longer concerned with the living up to the image of eternity in sustaining one's community, but obsessed with evanescent sensuality; such men feel there are no normative bounds of duty, obligation and responsibility which are the supreme consummation of their intrinsic constitutive dispositions, but as mere instruments of pleasure. And thus they feel no connection to their racial fellows, and are easily open to being persuaded towards racial indifferentism. Which is why the West has become more anti-racist the less Christian it has become, and why pleasure seeking atheists gravitate towards vapid emotionalism — because there is no higher mechanism of justice to be consummated in the afterlife, they develop neuroses over every minor injustice they see, and thus their imprudent hysteric open ended empathy is the logical conclusion of their degenerate hedonistic materialism.

>>17758213
Why do atheists like trannies so much? Probably because both can't stop killing themselves lmao
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/atheism-has-a-suicide-problem_b_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b

>>17758210
You're objectively a terminally online mentally ill freak, though. Every single atheist IRL would denounce you as a psychopath and a degenerate for your sadism and racism. Your "ideology" is entirely the product of online LARPing (which is why you are so obsessed with projecting that on others).

>>17758220
>loses an argument
>"GIRL COCK!!!"
Every. Single. Time.

>>17758239
Neat. Keep vomiting you subjective feelings about it out. You'll feel better. Still not an argument. You stupid fucking monkey.
> is entirely the product of online LARPing (which is why you are so obsessed with projecting that on others).
Holy fucking irony. More please.

>>17758179
>Christianity only ever lasted in the first world while apotasy was illegal and jew worshippers were going around burning people alive for not worshipping their dead jewish man.
Most people being burned were other Christians, no-one was seriously questioning Christianity for centuries. But even what you said was true, it would still be a good thing; as Aristotle says, the purpose of the laws of a polis is to habituate virtue in the soul through punishment and example, subordination to well-ordained laws producing inborn virtue. All societies rely on stigmatization and education to cultivate the virtues and behaviours they value, as does modern society for instance promote atheism, anti-Christian values, homosexuality, anti-white sentiment, etc. Destroy ZOG and atheism will disappear. People won't necessarily become Christian, but non-belief will abjured as intrinsically anti-human and unnatural. Atheism isn't even part of the equation, the religious conflicts of the future will be between different strands of Christianity as an intra-faith conflict, as well as between Christianity and New Age faiths. 90% of people still believe in God, spirituality, and an afterlife, so atheism itself has made no progress whatsoever.

>>17758259
>it didn't happen
>ok it did happen but it was unintentional
>ok it did happen and it was intentional but it was a good thing
The Christcuck as usual displaying his Jewish heritage

>>17758259
>as Aristotle says
Aristotle, by your own creed, is burning in hell. He would have thought you a complete cretin worshipping a Judean, by the way.

>>17758245
Where did I lose the argument? You claim hedonism is good, but also think porn addiction is bad. You don't have a coherent worldview, just schizophrenic hysteric mentally ill resentment. You couldn't answer how hedonism doesn't inevitably lead to trannyism, and your terminally online edgelord drivel will never be a popular ideology, just your own personal deranged schizo ramblings, nor will it answer the crises of purpose, meaning, and a place in the world that are the ineluctable conclusion of hedonism and atheism that are leading young men into Christianity.

You can also stop pretending you are racist or anti-Semitic, pajeet tranny anon; we can all tell you're just cynically availing of them to browbeat the racist Christians that live rent free in your tiny brainless head.

>>17758266
That is irrelevant to the argument as knowledge is universal. Either way, 1 Peter 3:19 and 4:6 point out Jesus preached to the dead, so men like Aristotle were undoubtedly saved.

>>17758262
The samefagging is getting quite desperate, Mr Pajeet. Do you touch your phone after not wiping your ass? We whites consider that quite unhygienic.

>>17758280
>You claim hedonism is good, but also think porn addiction is bad.
You're hearing voices in the walls. Be careful. Old Abe mutilated his dick and tried to murder his son because of those.

>>17758288
>Jesus preached to the dead, so men like Aristotle were undoubtedly saved.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA Holy fuck this is actually just schizophrenia by proxy jew.

>>17758291
So you didn't make these posts?
>>17757931
>>17758149

>>17758262
The pagans who you are "defending" would have thought you a complete cretin for being an atheist, a hedonist, and a moral imbecile for taking pleasure in the suffering of others.

>>17758293
Pajeet tranny anon is losing it, two weeks away from killing himself. This close to snapping — and the rope too!

>>17758321
>moral imbecile for taking pleasure in the suffering of others.
This is literally (You), retard.

Pajeet tranny anon seething so hard he can't even quote the right post... it's OVER!!

>>17758327
You are actually retarded. Unironically and certifiably.

>>17758288
Aristotle is definitely in hell

>>17758078
>Think of what this current social contagion rests upon?
People being unable to pretend to believe in a religion they know is wrong and fake. This drift away from christianity started centuries ago and merely accelerated more recently. You have your causation entirely backwards.
>young Christian conservatives are also above replacement
And yet still shrinking as a demographic because the majority of their siblings are apostates.
>Good thing they don't breed then.
You're going to watch your religion die while impotently screeching at a caricature of your enemies. The overwhelming majority of people you've lost in the last few decades are normalfags who just can't be bothered to pretend anymore. These people have children. Children who now won't even be raised christian.

>>17758382
>You're going to watch your religion die
Ok Nero

>>17757895 (OP)
Everyone in the first world is extremely familiar with Christianity. People are introduced to it as children and encounter Christian propaganda their entire lives. Therefore, anyone in the first world with any interest in converting has had ample opportunity to do so.

But there are still plenty of third worlders who don't have much exposure to Christianity and, being third worlders, are ripe for being bribed into converting by "missionaries". Combine these with the respective birth rates of both regions and mystery solved.

>>17758306
Not the first one, and there's no "porn addiction is bad" in the second post. You are literally a schizo.

>>17758332
Pajeet tranny anon, you have failed to address the following points:
1. Atheists support mass immigration far more Christians do and in fact support for mass immigration is the inevitable conclusion of atheism.
2. From an atheistic perspective, Greco-Roman paganism is as morally abhorent and intellectually deficient as Christianity, and Platonic intellectuals would've made the exact same arguments Christians make against your retardation. Your skinwalking an ideology that would have had your throat cut shows just how psychotic and deranged you are out of resentment your parents told you can't take it up the ass and cut your dick off.
3. You have already admitted on /lit/ that you aren't racist or homophobic or anti-Semitic and just latch unto such sentiments to weaponize against RW Christians because you are deranged psychotic lunatic basket case. No point in pretending.

>>17758473
>here's some shit I hallucinated
Thanks, nigger. Now address the challenge.
>>17758167

>>17758459
>using porn addicted in a pejorative sense isn't saying "porn addiction is bad"
This is the level of IQ you have when you lose all braincels from watching too much tranny cuck porn because you are an atheist degenerate.

And no, retard, you jumped in a conversation between two anons to defend the "honour" of hedonism in posts like >>17758141, >>17758164 and >>17758167 (yes, we can tell you're samefagging). You can't plead ignorance now.

>>17758482
So where are the replies to >>17758218, >>17758259 and >>17758280?

>>17757895 (OP)
Christianity is a poor man's religion. And I mean that as a compliment. It's a fairly progressive religion when it comes to helping the poor, no cast system keeping people down for generations. And by its very nature, it allows the public to question authority/government. Afterall the state did kill Jesus so the government can always fuck up. It's an easy story to understand and gives people what they want, love, forgiveness and immortality. Plus, anybody can be Christ-like merely by enduring hardship or even dying because of it. You get to feel like god or at least a hero for enduring the suffering you have been dealt.

Religion in general is on decline in free and relatively prosperous nations. Freedom and education tend to lead to a decline of religiosity.

>>17758494
Has fuck all to do with me.
>>17758167
This is my first point of contact with you.

>>17758507
Not terribly convincing.

>>17758514
lmao, okay cope however you want.

>>17758489
>>using porn addicted in a pejorative sense isn't saying "porn addiction is bad"
Exactly. It can also be to point out someone's hypocrisy. But of course I wouldn't expect someone who thinks the world is 6000 years ago and that a 600-year-old man built a floating zoo because a talking snake told a rib woman to eat an apple to wrap his head around something this elementary.

Now keep falling for narcissists using religion to wring the wallets of incel retards like you. You're winning so hard like I wouldn't believe... Real alpha male apex tradcon conquest gigachad crusader muscular wholesome anticonsoomerist hot dog ad behavior.

>>17758517
How is it hypocritical if people are disgusted with themselves and seek to improve? Hypocrisy would be defending one's porn addiction while claiming to profess a faith contrary to it. You keep exposing yourself as a retard.

Also lmao
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10943-019-00926-3.pdf

>>17758517
>the world is 6000 years ago and that a 600-year-old man built a floating zoo because a talking snake told a rib woman to eat an apple
This is far more believable than the universe popping into existence for no reason in particular just to have the optimal natural laws to produce complex phenomena with the supposed "illusion" of design, or that bears can become whales by gradually evolving. Especially since Darwinism is getting refuted every single day lmfao.

>>17758554
>How is it hypocritical if people are disgusted with themselves and seek to improve?
No. That's not what you did though.

>>17758574
American "education."

>>17758600
>American "education."
He's right though

>He's right though

>>17758648
Nice selfie, pajeet tranny anon

>>17758682

>>17758692
Kind of like how you can't stop thinking about Christianity and how ChristChads keep fucking your mother? Do you lust after our stallion cocks as well?

>>17758692
>girl cock

>>17757931
as opposed to miserable praising funko pops and black excellence

>>17758600
>That's not what you did though.
Well of course, I was already morally, intellectually and physically superior to you in every way.

>>17758943
There is nothing more prideful in the sinful sense than Christians, exhibit 483

>>17758993
Nothing to be prideful about being superior in every way to a subhuman, the standard is that low.

>>17757895 (OP) Because logic prevails. You can lie for a while, but lies doesn't really stick.

>>17758160
Bloodiest wars in history were over secular geopolitics, kys

>>17758382
They don't have children. Their TFR is on par with Korea.

>>17758146
>the final cope of atheists

>>17760208
atheism is all cope

>>17760208
>>17760389
This cope claiming is cope.