How monotheism came about - /his/ (#17761359) [Archived: 1076 hours ago]

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6/13/2025, 6:26:02 PM No.17761359
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It all started in China with its philosophy of two conflicting forces creating reality. In China, this battle is eternal and creates reality itself.
This philosophy, through the Silk Roads, reached Iran. The Iranians did not understand that it was this eternal conflict that created reality itself.
They then personalize the two sides of the conflict and create god (Mazda) and the devil (Angra). Contrary to the Chinese philosophy, in Iranian mythology, this conflict would come to an end when the messiah Saoshyant arrived and would help Mazda defeat Angra. In this mythology, humans who served Angra were sent to Hell.
The Persians dominated Israel and Greece and take this mythology there. The Greeks, based on the idea of Mazda create the Supreme Good. Angra, the evil, which was equal to Mazda, becomes only a kind of subordinate when this philosophy reaches Israel (dominated now by the greeks).
The Jewish Pharisees (Pharisee means Persian) deeply influenced by Zoroastrian mythology and the Platonic-Stoic philosophy create the bases of Christian mythology, which is mixed with Greco-Roman mythology to create Catholicism. That's it. The history of this stupidity.
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6/13/2025, 7:45:36 PM No.17761669
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 7:47:26 PM No.17761677
>>17761359 (OP)
>This philosophy, through the Silk Roads, reached Iran. The Iranians did not understand that it was this eternal conflict that created reality itself.

Zoroastrianism is older than China. You have it the other way around: Pharisee comes from Parsees. Judaism is not invented until the 3rd century BC.
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6/13/2025, 8:18:50 PM No.17761794
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:51:05 AM No.17762434
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SUPERGOLEM
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:30:47 AM No.17762585
>It all started in China with its philosophy of two conflicting forces creating reality. In China, this battle is eternal and creates reality itself.
>This philosophy, through the Silk Roads, reached Iran. The Iranians did not understand that it was this eternal conflict that created reality itself.
This is a modern reconstruction, not a historical transmission. Yin-yang and Zoroastrian dualism are structurally different. Chinese metaphysics sees harmony through balance. Zoroastrianism sees cosmic warfare. These aren’t steps in an ideological evolution, but separate metaphysical visions. The idea that Iran simply "misunderstood" China is a projection.

>They then personalize the two sides of the conflict and create god (Mazda) and the devil (Angra). Contrary to the Chinese philosophy, in Iranian mythology, this conflict would come to an end...
Not a misunderstanding, but a different ontology. In Zoroastrianism, good and evil are real, moral absolutes. The idea that history has direction (culminating in a final restoration) is a moral deepening, not a dilution. It’s profoundly more serious than a cyclical balance of opposites.

>The Persians dominated Israel and Greece and take this mythology there. The Greeks, based on the idea of Mazda create the Supreme Good.
Plato and Zoroaster may share ethical monism, but they don’t speak the same language. The Greek “Form of the Good” isn’t Mazda with a toga. This kind of reduction erases the real differences between Persian apocalypticism and Greek rationalism.

>Angra, the evil... becomes only a kind of subordinate when this philosophy reaches Israel...
False. The Hebrew Scriptures already treat evil as subordinate to the will of God. The Satan in Job isn’t a rival power, but a creature. You’re describing second-temple developments as if they were a Persian implant. That flattens centuries of Hebrew theology.

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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:32:15 AM No.17762588
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>Pharisee means Persian...
No, it doesn’t. 'Perushim' means "separated ones," referring to their purity practices. There might be influence, but not etymology or identity.

>The Jewish Pharisees... create the bases of Christian mythology...
Reductionist bullshit again. Christianity doesn’t just remix myths. It fulfills prophecy, history, and divine law. Christ is not a construct. He is a person who enters time.

Debate’s welcome, but let’s at least keep the categories clean.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:03:56 PM No.17763655
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Kek