Thread 17765012

>All Pagan aspects removed from Christianity

Are they the truth?

I admire jw.org because it's the greatest language-learning resource I've ever seen. But no, it's not the truth.

>>17765012 (OP)
Jesus is God

>>17765012 (OP)
Jehova's Witnesses regularly get their family members killed with their asinine refusal of blood transfusions so, no, they're a bunch of cultist retards at best.

>>17765012 (OP)
I find it funny that the more serious a group is about their christianity the more repressive and moralfaggy they become
and then edgelord groyper types claim that its just american protestants like that

>>17765021
Was Jesus born on December 25th like all other Pagan gods as mainstream Christianity celebrates?

>>17765012 (OP)
I have a close relative who's one of these, and trust me, you do not want to know any of them. Take everything you think you know about cults and cultish behavior and multiply it by a factor of fifty. It's that bad.

>>17765012 (OP)
Predicting the end of the world multiple times and failing does't sound like something a true religion would do

>>17765062
Christ has always been God, but in the fullness of time He became incarnate, and was truly man.

>>17765023
Is God a Trinity, modeled after Plato's Pagan Triad Monad/Nous/Psyche?

>>17765077
The trinity goes against the transitive property and identity

>>17765081
Who knows? The point of the post you're replying to is that any religious group which intentionally endangers its participants with ridiculous rules isn't worth taking seriously.

>>17765082
No it doesnt

>>17765077
He's never mentioned as God anywhere in the Old testament.

>Deuteronomy 6:4
>Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one

An Israelite would NEVER have understood that as referring to 3 persons

>>17765081
It just comes from the "in the name of" prayers and blessings, which settled on Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

>>17765090
Yes it does; that is why you can't describe it

>>17765098
Father = Monad/Good
Son = Nous/Logos
Spirit = Psyche/Wisdom

VERY Pagan

>>17765093
I can give you three examples. Here you go...
https://youtu.be/yk6Nx-MVLgo?si=FsR1xgfb4TBt_AlR

>>17765106
No.

Jesus is exalted by Jehovah and is granted to sit on God's throne temporarily and then he later hands over the kingdom to Jehovah and becomes in subjection to his him.

>Revelation 3:21
>He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne.

>1 Corinthians 15
>24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

Your Pagan idolatry and cringe Hilldawg propaganda meme videos WILL NOT STAND

>>17765012 (OP)
>All Pagan aspects removed from Christianity
so intellectual honesty is a pagan aspect, gotcha.

>>17765012 (OP)
they are whatever you want to believe they are. so too are baptists and mormons
just make sure that you keep it on your side of the fence and focus on recruiting wytes. not actual Christians.

>>17765148
Why, JW, who's speaking in Revelation 3:14?

>remove paganism from christianity
>it immediately devolves into a mixed race, pseudo-jew cult that openly protects pedophiles

>>17765164
Don't know, an angel is saying it all to John. I'm not a JW, I'm just comparing their interpretation to your pagan one.

>>17765014
how so? I thought they didn't do language lessons for their people anymore

>>17765190
This is what that verse says. Read it carefully.
>"And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the AMEN, the faithful and true witness, the BEGINNING of the creation of God;"
Its Jesus talk here. He is the Amen. He is the beginning.
If you read Revelation 1:8 he claims to be the same thing, even the Omega. If you read Revelation 21:6 he claims to be the same thing, the alpha and the omega. Jesus the Christ says is God and Lord all throughout Revelation. Its obvious.

>>17765193
Jehovah's Witnesses engage in extensive world evangelization, preaching and distributing literature in over 240 countries and territories. JW.org has a repository of articles, books, periodicals, and their Bible of course, with myriad written and audio translations available for each of them. If you want a Swahili audiobook version of last month's edition of Awake, it's there, and freely available.

>>17765023
Yes but they also swat you with a cute trad girl

>>17765206
>AMEN

Amen just means "so be it", because Jesus is "the word"

>the BEGINNING of the creation of God

Jesus is the first creation of God. The beginning of creation. Stop with the multi-headed god Paganism.

>>17765206
I will prove to you Jesus was created by God and cannot be God himself.

>Genesis 1
>3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.

>John 8:12
>Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

God created Light/Jesus.

Done.

>>17765012 (OP)
>All Pagan aspects removed from Christianity
Except wedding rings

Why is Jesus never correcting people who bow down (προσκυνέω) to Him but says you should do προσκυνήσεις to God alone in Matthew 4:10? Angel in Rev 22:8-9 corrects John when he bows down to him.

>>17765651
The Hellenic interpretation would be that he was reveling in his power. That's why he kept whores around.

>>17765106
What a retarded video, a human being ascending into a divine being or performing miracles or even interceding on behalf of sinners aren't unprecedented in the hebrew bible, none of that means "uh well clearly that means Jesus is God checkmate athetits"
Nevermind the serious problems with idolatry and the pseudo nature of Christianity's monotheism.
>>17765651
le god's plan to kill himself

Why the hell do people pretend to be Jehovah's Witnesses on 4chan?

>>17766382
I don't care about Hellenic interpretation but how do JWs cope?
>check their translation
>προσκυνήσεις is "worship" when it's towards God and "doing obeisance" when it's towards Jesus
Kek, what a disingenuous cult.

>>17765651
The king of Babylon bowed down to Daniel.

>>17766509
He was a dumb pagan, he also offered incense to Daniel.
If you were smarter you would cite the examples of OT Israelites prostrating before their kings and the like, but that also is easily refuted - in OT times the act had different connotations and didn't strictly imply divinity. There's a well known anecdote regarding this particular nuance, ancient Greeks mistakenly believed the Persians worship their kings due to the custom of prostrating before them, which in Greece was reserved for divinities.

In any way, Matthew 4:10 and Rev 22:8-9 showcase clearly that, to the authors, προσκυνήσεις was reserved to God.