We've all heard about how "denazification failed in West Germany." - /his/ (#17766443) [Archived: 1065 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:05:13 PM No.17766443
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Then how did it fare in East Germany?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:08:08 PM No.17766454
>>17766443 (OP)
Very succesful, generally.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:28:59 AM No.17766989
>>17766443 (OP)
turns out that not hiring all the nazis back into civil service jobs and the army helps you get rid of nazism
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Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 12:31:06 AM No.17766994
>>17766989
>West Germany hires Nazis
>Modern Germany is the continuation of the West German government, while East Germany is kaput

Holy shit, Nazis won against communism. Uncle Adolf, we did it!
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:31:50 AM No.17766996
>>17766443 (OP)
They were either forcibly hired into Stasi (secret police) or they were executed for "anti-partisan activity", and the Stasi were some of the most brutal of all commie secret polices (notorious for having kids tattling on their own parents and the like), so you tell me
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:40:58 AM No.17767141
>>17766994
you say it as a joke, but yeah. germany lost ww2, the nazis won it
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:45:00 AM No.17767287
>>17766443 (OP)
Both Germanies had very different views about Denazification. In the west it was:
>Yeah, we were evil and did bad shit, let's work our way towards forgiveness to repay our guilt
In the east it was.
>The Evil WESTERN Nazis had nothing to do with our brave proletarian workers
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:42:18 AM No.17767656
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>>17766443 (OP)
Great Success!
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:57:23 AM No.17767677
>>17767656
Why would a Nazi support a Jewish supremacist part like AfD?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:57:40 AM No.17767678
>>17766989
How was that even possible though.
Considering anyone associated with the previous government and military had to be a Nazi, how was there enough non-Nazi Germans to fill the new positions?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:09:20 AM No.17767692
>>17767678
>How was that even possible though.
It wasn't. Something like ~20% of Party members in the DDR were also ex-Nazi Party members. I can't imagine the civil service or officer corps were much better
Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 7:12:43 AM No.17767696
>East Germany allows open elections in 1990
>SPD gets 16% of the vote

LMFAOOOOO
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:13:22 AM No.17767697
>>17767677
in what way is Afd "jewish supremacist"?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:15:48 AM No.17767700
>>17767696
if anyone ever claims the fall of Communism in Europe was due to "muh CIA" or any explanation other than the people rejecting communism all you have to do is remind them that every single former communist country still has a communist party that actively runs in elections, but has not once even come close to being elected back into office. Not even in Russia, where they had a real opportunity and were the second largest party for a time before Putin dismantled democracy.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:40:27 AM No.17767865
>>17766443 (OP)
East Germany no longer exists. The DDR was Mitteldeutschland
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:59:21 PM No.17768093
>>17767678
Stalin forced the German commies to open "National Democratic Party" for ex-nazis to join. This mimicked PAX in Poland and was meant to give right wing renegades a "formal" way to power, even if it was a lie it engaged the political energy away from what could be considered sabotage or terrorism and into "formal" political process. That it later had some unintended consequences(antisemitism of some soviet satellites was largely influenced by the fact that these containment parties could easily socialise with communist leadership).
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:25:00 PM No.17768106
>>17767677
>>17767697
i assume he means in that AfD is leveraging the jews and israel against the muslims. i.e. "imported antisemitism" etc.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:28:45 PM No.17768111
>>17767700
These aren’t claims anon, in terms of Poland it is a fact that CIA was deeply involved
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:59:37 PM No.17768142
>>17766443 (OP)
In East Germany the issue was basically completely ignored, what you did after 1945 is what mattered. The only exception was captured military personnel who did have to do forced labor in the Far East for years
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:38:18 PM No.17768466
>>17766443 (OP)
All the nazis fled west because they knew what real denazification was going to be like.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:40:15 PM No.17768550
>>17768111
Ok, and? It was the polish people that rejected communism. My point is that if poles wanted to be communist they could just vote the communists back into power to reestablish a communist system. But they dont, because the people have rejected it as an idea. The cia just helped with the regime change.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:57:16 PM No.17768578
>>17766994
Yes, communism falling in europe was a great victory for american-sponsored neo-nazism
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:59:04 PM No.17768587
>>17767678
There were about enough people who left germany in the 30s and defectors from POW camps to fill the jobs
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:11:18 PM No.17768614
>>17768550
>just voot for communists (communist party was effectively disbanded and switched to social-democracy)
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Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 7:16:19 PM No.17768624
>>17768578
Yes, yes it was.

I’m glad the the former Nazis got comfy government jobs and in their golden years got to see the USSR fall and East Germany implode and their country reunite.

Meanwhile all the Soviet soldiers who sacrificed so much to stop the German invasion saw it fall apart a few decades later LMFAOOOOOO THINK OF ALL THE DISABLED RED ARMY VETERANS STARVING UNDER YELSTIN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


>>17768614
You will never have a revolution :)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:40:32 PM No.17769019
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>>17766443 (OP)
If you joined SED or NDPD you are rehabilitated, that's about it lmao
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:48:31 PM No.17769041
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Ulbrich era GDR was based fuck Honecker
>The German Democratic Republic is a socialist state of German nation. It is the political organization of the working people in town and countryside who are jointly implementing socialism under the leadership of the working class and its Marxist-Leninist party.
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Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 10:56:25 PM No.17769061
>>17769041
>and we take orders from Jews in Moscow
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:59:14 PM No.17769073
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>>17769041
>Besides stabilizing the East German regime by improving the living situation of its citizens, Ulbricht was still dreaming about uniting both Germanies under SED leadership. He wanted NES and EES to succeed, to overtake West Germany economically and then to achieve unification. To achieve this dream the GDR had to first demonstrate the superiority of its economic system.

>Other leaders, especially Erich Honecker, thought that the GDR could not win economically and that comparisons with the capitalist West had to stop. They advocated closer cooperation with the USSR, strengthening of socialism and class struggle against capitalism. They argued that the goal of socialism was not to be richer than capitalists, but to create a different system. In their opinion the GDR had to concentrate on its own unique socialist identity. Starting from 1971 this was achieved and implemented under Honecker, especially with the 1974 amendments of the constitution of the Democratic Republic of Germany. At the same time as the Basic Treaty opened the GDR to much greater cultural influence from the FRG, the GDR regime needed all the more Abgrenzung (delimitation) between the cultures to both justify and protect its existence, a factor that only drove up the already extreme degree of Stasi domestic surveillance.
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Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 11:08:56 PM No.17769100
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>>17769073
>He wanted NES and EES to succeed, to overtake West Germany economically and then to achieve unification. To achieve this dream the GDR had to first demonstrate the superiority of its economic system.

Two more weeks the ideology.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:11:46 PM No.17769106
>>17769073
Although both the NÖSPL and the ÖSS were successful in economic terms, they also led to an appreciation of decentralised units, such as management, at the expense of the central administration and by economists at the expense of political functionaries. This led to increasing criticism within the SED, since the party's absolute claim to power seemed to be endangered. In particular, the reforms of the Soviet Union under Leonid Ilylich Brezhnev were viewed critically, although the new system was based on ideas from the New Economic Policy

Economic policy was a decisive reason why Erich Honecker, with the support of the Soviet Union, was able to replace Ulbricht as the first man in the state in 1971. With VIII. The SED party congress was then adopted a new economic policy course, which reversed the reforms. The new guideline was the unity of economic and social policy declared by Honecker. "The VIII. Party congress held a course at the end of which was the end. The party congress was the beginning of this end, which – in the words of André Müller sn. – turning before the turnaround.”
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Chud Anon
6/16/2025, 11:18:31 PM No.17769139
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>>17769106
>Over time, Honecker amassed a vast collection – one that the German media covered extensively at the time, particularly titles such as Lady Diamond and The Black Nymphomaniac, starring Ajita Wilson playing a reporter and nymphomaniac infiltrating a sex gang. Honecker owned two copies of Black Emanuelle, which according to Lexikon des Erotic Films, tells the story of a dark skinned photographer ‘who is screwed over by a white couple and then by a whole hockey team’. Snugly hidden in the basement of his vacation home in Libbesicke See, Der Spiegel magazine later reported, Honecker amassed a total of 4,864 videos at a cost of DM1.3million.
>Wilson was born in Brooklyn a biological male. She started out as a drag entertainer in the red-light district of New York. Wilson had sex reassignment surgery in the mid-1970s.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:21:41 PM No.17769152
>>17766443 (OP)
It never failed in eastern Germany because it was never acknowledged in the first place. They just kept putting ex-nazis into positions of government and called it Not Nazism™. If anyone complained, they would just be non-person'd by the Stasi.