Religiously, I am like a clear crystal. Put the crystal next to a red cloth, it becomes red. Green cloth, green. Etc. be like this in all religious stuff. Be a friend of everyone. Never speak untruth. I personally speak whatever comes spontaneously. The more I get closer to truth, ultimate truth, the more true my speech becomes. Through meditation but prayer and asceticism and other stuff as well. I am a seeker. Seeker of liberation from illusion. I believe in god. One god, high above. He is salvation from illusion of material existence. The afterlife? I want to, but not sure if this is gonna happen, exist in spirit only. Matter is dark and dim. Spirit is pure light. Thanks for reading love you all good day.

What a retarded post. You claim to seek "truth," but reject absolute truth in favor of a chameleon spirituality.

>reject matter but want to “exist in spirit”
Manichean/Gnostic garbage.

All fields.

>>17773623
C'mon man Mani had severe truths in his teachings thanks for reminding me to pray his prayers

>>17773623
This is not chameleon, it's crystal. The crystal alone has the color of purity and if put next to pure truth it shines in golden light. Chameleon pff

>>17773604 (OP)
You claim to seek truth but you deny the material reality in front of you in favor of unmeasurable mysticism. Hypocrite.

>>17773636
It is measurable by the bliss it produces. Sometimes when I feel frustration I just turn to god mentally and he keeps me safe as if he is a shelter. This works for me, idk if for others.

>>17773658
>It is measurable by the bliss it produces.
Have you heard about crack cocaine?

>>17773662
You ignoramus, how can you compare spiritual inner bliss that is permanent with a fading crack dose.

>>17773681
It is both an illusion into tricking the brain to feel good. One of them at least is honest.

>>17773695
The brain? Ok you're an atheist.

>>17773699
It took you three posts to find that out? No wonder you are a mystic.

>>17773626
>Mani had severe truths
Mani was a crackhead false prophet and a heresiarch whose doctrines were anathematized for good reason (dualism, hatred of matter, rejection of Christ’s true incarnation, etc.).

>>17773627
Christ didn’t call us to be reflective objects, dingus. Your “crystal” is still functionally a chameleon, since your supposed “purity” depends entirely on what you’re standing next to. Ergo, moral and spiritual cowardice. You're trying to redefine words in order to avoid taking a stance. I still haven't read a single mention of Jesus, just abstract “truth” and vague “purity.” Congrats on being spiritually inert. The rocks cry out more than you.

>>17773741
Because Jesus is not necessary. Truth is not a man, it's god. And god is transcendent beyond matter and form.

>>17773762
>truth is not a man
Christ Himself says: “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.” Transcendence without immanence is impotence, and a god who cannot act in matter is no god at all, just a Gnostic hallucination. You're still hiding behind abstraction to avoid the reality of a crucified and risen God. Only cowards need a god too distant to make demands.

>>17773775
The bible says he said that. I'm not even sure he actually did. What in my mind makes more sense is he was someone with great esoteric knowledge who was crucified for being too extreme in his.. holiness. I know christians don't like that but that is what probably happened. He never claimed to be the messiah, he was just a man who taught the truth to people. That does make sense in my opinion, Isaiah 53 would fit for him, I'm not saying he is meaningless but he isn't the messiah just a wise teacher and a prophet.

>>17773775
Truth is transcendent but actually immanent as well. I believe I am god, you are god, Jesus is god. Lower case because it's all the same transcendent being.

>>17773791
Also, an evidence how this is very likely is the gnostics who were actually legit didn't even really follow Jesus afaik. He wasn't the messiah to them not even important enough to follow him directly but they followed his disciple James for example.

>>17773798
>I believe I am god
Do you mean to say that you are the timeless, simple, self-existent source of the universe?

>>17773943
In essence yes. But in fact I have an ego which produces clinging to the illusory transient material world and it's objects. Until I'm free, I am only a shadow of that eternal unchanging self

>>17773946
But that's obviously not true. For example, you have parts, therefore, you are not simple. You are thrown in time, not actually timeless. You are subject to every whim of change, not at all like the changeless God.

>>17773960
My soul is in identity one with the soul of the universe. All souls. The body is not part of me, nor the mind. They are not even my possession, they are just attached to me in space and time.

>>17773961
Because man contains matter and spirit, it is easy to conclude then that man has an intrinsic union with God, who is ultimate spirit, but that is merely an assumption, and actually a fatal one. Man cannot reach what transcends him by human effort, the only possible relationship then is had by the condescension of the transcendant. And that's exactly who the Messiah is, God becoming man so that man can become God by union and love.

>>17773979
Then you're not spiritual, you're bound to dogma telling you what you can and can't do. And that's not my path. Christianity ultimately feels so boring. Look at the night sky and tell me one man two thousand years ago is the ultimate answer to all questions when the night sky exists, when the beauty of dusk and dawn exists.

>>17773987
The fact remains, God can only be actually known by God's stooping toward man, because God's nature transcends human nature. Unless you have God's personal number, then you are merely fooling yourself to think that you are in union with him. If you have in fact rejected the only contact with God that exists, as I maintain, then you are dangerously fooling yourself.

>>17774029
Well. Let it be as it is. I am content.

>>17774035
God bless you regardless.

>>17774041
Thanks. Even though your concept of god is flawed, I hope you find the truth one day in the aeons you will reincarnate on earth.

>>17773636
I reread OP after this post
>no mention of denial
>obsession cont'd part 234,235,463,5657

>>17773604 (OP)
> the concept of "clear as crystal" is used in historical and religious texts to describe qualities like purity, transparency, and divine radiance.
The Zhuangzi, a Chinese philosophical text, discusses the use of mirrors as having religious significance, reflecting a similar idea of clarity and purity.
Teresa of Avila, a Spanish mystic, described the soul as a "castle made of a single diamond or of very clear crystal" in her work, "Interior Castle," symbolizing spiritual purity.

>>17774256
>further exploration
https://cup.columbia.edu/book/genuine-pretending/9780231183994/
"...value of a Daoist outlook today as a way of seeking existential sanity in an age of mass media’s paradoxical quest for originality."

>>17774256
Thanks. Although I do not take much inspiration from either daoism or Christianity. But whatever.

>>17774311
Zhuangz's msg is to remember to use humor as enlightenment, as well.

>>17773604 (OP)
try it on a book, maybe next time?

>>17773604 (OP)
idk if suicide letters belong on /his/ - nobody knows who <you> are?

>>17773604 (OP)
>>17773987
I would suggest reading the Gospel of John and really contemplating it carefully.

>>17773791
>He never claimed to be the messiah, he was just a man who taught the truth to people. That does make sense in my opinion, Isaiah 53 would fit for him, I'm not saying he is meaningless but he isn't the messiah just a wise teacher and a prophet.
One second you say what you think "probably happened," the next minute, the very next sentence you act certain by telling us definitively what Jesus was, at least according to you. But just a breath earlier in the very same paragraph you were telling us about what you think "probably" happened. The only way to really know certainty is by actually studying the word. Otherwise, you'll never have it.

>>17773681
>spiritual inner bliss that is permanent

That's not permanent. In my case it lasted like 18 months or so and was probably the coolest thing that has ever happened to me. Nothing is permanent here

>>17773961
Body and mind are something we use. They aren't "us". You and me are a dynamic process, is independent entities do not exist, they are a phantom caused by ignorance