Why was crime so rampant in 1970s America? It can't solely be a racial thing.

>>17777585 (OP)
>It can't solely be a racial thing.
Why not?

>>17777585 (OP)
boomers had to get it on, the other boomers were making a move

Every single crime spike in the history of crime is caused by organized crime. In the 70's this came from the amount of cocaine flooding into the US from latin America which blacks then made into crack.

>>17777591
Crime was pretty bad across the charts. Any other decade you can reliably count on demographic distribution when looking at crime statistics.

widespread leftwing terrorism with many institutions complicit in encouraging or ignoring it because of ideological sympathies

The same reason crime was so rampant in the 1920s. Prohibition lead to organized crime. Likewise, Nixon started the "War on Drugs" in the late 60s and early 70s, which saw a repeat of the 1920s only instead of alcohol it was weed and crack

>>17777585 (OP)
It wasn't just the US. Proportionally, violent crime usually peaked in the 70s-90s in most Western countries

>>17777616
Crack didn't show up on the streets of America until 1979 at the earliest dumbass.

>>17777585 (OP)
the last cry of the wild west

>>17777585 (OP)
>Why was crime so rampant in 1970s America? It can't solely be a racial thing.

LBJ's "Great Society" chickens came home to roost. The Dems abandoned White working class Americans and supported every fringe kook element out there and allowed (indeed, encouraged) rampant uncontrolled crime. This came to a halt when pissed off White working class Americans elected Reagan.

>>17777651
Why? Did society simply not keep itself paced with destructive/unaccountable tech?

>>17777585 (OP)
>>17777651
It was obvious society was collapsing by that point but a mass surveillance state hadn't yet been created

>>17777585 (OP)

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>>17777585 (OP)
increased immigration after 1965

>>17777899
And the only reason Bill Clinton was elected was cause he was a White southern dude, the only reason the South gave Dems another shot

>>17778061
>the only reason Bill Clinton was elected

Clinton got elected because he purposely abandoned the crazy 1970s Dem philosophy and essentially became a Rep in all but name.

>>17777585 (OP)
>It can't solely be a racial thing.
How would it be a racial thing at all?
>niggers be criming
Yeah and there were a lot of them before and after the 70s, it's not like America has gotten whiter since then

>>17777585 (OP)
Communist International. They sent agents out to support many growing terror groups and provide arms and money.

>>17777585 (OP)
A mixture of factors. The two biggest being endemic lead poisoning due to leaded gasoline, and a lack of abortion access increasing the number of unwanted children. The lead poisoning caused a mess of behavioral and mental disorders and unwanted/abused children are just more likely to be criminals.

>>17777585 (OP)
Because of European countries deporting all their criminals, rebels and religious deviants to that continent in the 15th-18th centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation Your ancestors were the dregs and outcasts of the civilised world, leading to your current culture of casual violence, paranioa, bluster, dishonesty, a lack of empathy and exploitation of those weaker than you, a compensating overhyped confidence and a deep fear of further immigration.

>>17777585 (OP)
Leftist political criminal justice reform. Law enforcement on the streets: The police were heavily restricted from using their old draconian tactics that worked in suppressing crime and it took a while for them to develop the techniques and resources that allowed them to get back to it. If you are a lowly paid beat cop who always cracked heads or framed people who were being shitheads in your community and then suddenly you are no longer able to do this, alternatives are not apparent. Prison: These became a fucking joke with extremely light sentences, liberal parole, open prisons and California even had co-ed prisons.

>>17777585 (OP)
Economy was shit. Economic hard times lead to social unrest which leads to crime. The 1970s were economically hard which combined with the chickens of white flight coming home to roost leaving cities without a tax base as all the whites fled to the suburbs. Rotten cities meant crime was the only way to make it through for most people. Hard times lead to increased mental issues which also explains the prevelance of serial killers (does crimeanon still post?).

Retards (Redditors) will try to push the whole thing about leaded gas which is so absurdly stupid I don't know how it's takej seriously.

>>17778122
>lead poisoning due to leaded gasoline
Disturbingly Reddit post

>>17778282
Counter the argument then. Lead exposure wasn’t the only factor but it was a major one. The same with lack of abortion access to people who shouldn’t have been having children.

>>17778192
This is mostly false. Parole was less restricted, especially in the federal system, as was furlough, courts were less eager to impose jail time than in say 1940, and there was more of an effort of rehabilitation, but the facilities themselves were still brutal. Especially in the South, they could be severely overcrowded, dilapidated, and run not too differently from the labor camps run in the USSR at the same time. Police also weren't very tightly controlled - I don't know where that came from.

>>17778282
Why?

Boomers. The largest cohort ever of young males came of age.

>concentrated capital moves away from big cities to be sent somewhere else in the US or overseas

>big city folks who can't afford or lack the will to move somewhere else lose their jobs and livelihood, end up turning to crime to put food

It's not even that hard to fathom but autistniggers fall back to whatever /pol/faggotry they rely on because it's easier than thinking.

>>17777585 (OP)
It was solely a racial thing.

If adjusted for percentage of population, a black male is something like 24X more likely to commit crimes than a white male.

The more freedom we've allowed these people, the more crime has exploded.

The LBJ era and the end of segregating blacks in society; directly created the criminal epidemic of the 70s. And then in the 80s, when crack was king, the crime rate got absolutely unhinged.

Some creatures aren't evolved enough to function in polite society.

>>17778686
t.hispano/moor/slavnigger

>>17778686
...which is why South Africa experienced apocalyptic crime levels as the apartheid regime doubled down on repression.

>>17778700
Nope, SA had the same problems.

The Boer's set them free only for them to murder, rape, and steal; literally everything they could.

You ever check in on how South Africa is doing after 30ish years of freedom? Or does your South African historical knowledge not go past 1980?

>>17778703
South Africa had its violent crime rates peak with around 70 murders per 100k in the early 1990s. It had been rising sharply throughout the 1980s. It's not great right now but not bordering on literal civil war like it once was.

>>17777616
>niggers were peaceful little angels until those mean spics from Mexico corrupted them
Lol it's this nigger again

>>17777669
This. 1970 was the last residual decade of the 19th century. Just like how the 2000s were still very much like the 1980s-1990s in terms of culture compared to now

>>17777585 (OP)
Leaded gasoline

>>17777643
the war on drugs was extremely successful at reducing crime

>>17778919
It started in the 1970s. Violent crime continued to rise for another 20+ years.

>>17777585 (OP)
El BJ did a bunch of shitty policies when he was president
>>17778058
it started before 1971, there were george floyd riots in 1967 and 1968

>>17778924
there were george floyd riots in 67 and 68. the crime wave started before nixon took office

>>17778931
Then he was unsuccessful in stopping it at least. Most criminal prosecutions occur at the state level btw

>>17778934
then the war on drugs couldn't have caused it if it was already happening in the 60s before he took office

>>17777661
And? Cocaine was the drug of choice of black gangs in the 70's and they got it all from Mexicans

>>17778365
>Parole was less restricted, especially in the federal system, as was furlough

In 1980 Federal parole guidelines were changed so that you had to serve 75% of your sentence to be eligible for parole. Many states have since copied this system and have similar requirements; Texas, notably, still only requires 50% of your sentence to be served.

>>17778686
which really isn't true. black communities pre-1970s were much safer, had intact family units, lower crime, etc.

The Great Society had a lot to do with it; you will notice that the crime bubble almost perfectly coincided with the 30 year experiment of nationalized gibesmedat.

>>17777616
There was also an overall increasing in purchasing power so there was more money to buy drugs as well. The 1970s had economic trouble but people had more cash than their parents or grandparents growing up in the Great Depression.

I'd add another factor -- the rapid and spectaculator disintegration of the family. And also the decline and fall of labor-employing industries. A lot of young males, particularly black males, saw themselves as an outlaw society. They might have banged a bit as youth in the 1940s but it was easier to get a factory job in an American city with only a rudimentary education. De-industrialization is talked about a lot lately but one of the fastest periods of job losses in manufacturing and industry was in the 1970s.

>>17779052
Conservatives are not really wrong to identify the left-wing cultural revolution of the 1960s as contributing to crime or being bound up in it in some way. But they get the cause/effect wrong I think. That social/cultural movement did embrace drugs because it's what their parents and what the authorities said not to do, so they did it. But I think that movement wasn't totally in control of itself, but being produced by rapid changes that are ultimately economic in nature. Think of rapid mobility enabled by cars and motorcycles, which became much more widespread after World War II (to purchase a car in the 1920s/1930s in a small town meant you were one of the wealthier members of the community), and demobilized military veterans joining groups such as:
https://youtu.be/mciTSBS_uVE

Mainly what that whole left-wing thing seemed left, but it was really about one's own personal desires and extreme individualism pushed to its limits. Politics became less about a specific goal to accomplish but how you felt about what you were doing. What 60s radicals really wanted was very compatible with a kind of libertarian ethic and the emerging mass consumer economy.

>>17779052
the great society was a reaction to society falling apart and progressivism largely failing for the last 80 years to usher in any real change. Once again the establishment promised the world to disaffected immigrants whose only purpose of existence was to work and get taxed by the government. The great society was supposed to level the playing field but actually what it did was raise taxes higher than ever before including a 90% income tax for the highest earners. This actually ended up having the reverse effect and prevented the economy from recovering after the great depression as fast as it should have.

That said the hoover dam is pretty metal

>>17778277
My dad lived through white flight. Grew up in a area of Chicago that was turning black really fast. He sold everything and went to Colorado. Now he's experiencing massive brown invasion lol. Dude can't catch a break.

>>17778686
Spics aren't much better. They have less single moms. They usually work. But in some ways they are more smart so harder to catch and can be more ruthless.

>>17778709
South africa is terrible. White people can't comprehend how violent and how uncivil brown and blacks can be. It's why all their socities are beyond repair. They don't care. Niggers and spics don't care when their neighbors get murdered and they can move on with their lives like nothing has happened.

>>17779402
They do actually. Black people in the US consistently rate violent crime as a bigger concern than any other group. They're way overrepresented in murder victims and victims of other crimes as well as missing people.

>>17779040
Yeah in some states it varies depending on the offense too. I'm pretty sure in my state (MD) most offenses are eligible for parole after only a fraction of the sentence is completed but for a lot of violent crimes it's 80%.

>>17777585 (OP)
Operation Wrath of God

>>17777585 (OP)
Pic rel

They shut down the asylums (the left supported it because of cruelty concerns, the right because of the high cost) while also not yet having the prison-industrial complex. All of the insane druggie degenerates were not in asylums anymore but also not in jail, leading to crimewaves.

>>17777616
Cocaine didn't exist in America before 1980.

>>17779040
>In 1980 Federal parole guidelines were changed so that you had to serve 75% of your sentence to be eligible for parole.
Federal life sentence is also automatic parole in 28 years if you demonstrated good behavior while incarcerated.

>>17779466
weird that they always blame reagan for this

>>17778919
Objectively false, it increased crime because it lead to a rise in criminal charges for drug possession, that's literally how crime rates work retard. The War on Drugs was a massive mistake

>>17779568
literally all drug addicts do crime and putting drug addicts in jail for decades for possession is the best way to lower crime. Actually the best way would be the death penalty but decades in jail for possession is the next best option

>>17779574
Legalize drugs and make it easier for addicts to get their fix and crime rates will go down because possession would no longer be a crime and addicts wouldn't need to resort to pulling copper from their landlords walls to pay for their fix from shady illegal dealer networks that lead to violence.

>>17779592
that has literally never worked anywhere it was tried and crime went up in oregon when they did it.
Singapore kills drug users. crime there is low. japan has harsh penalties for drug use, crime there is low. the 1990s war on crime bill had tough penalties for drug use and it caused crime to go down.
25 years plus or death for possession and crime goes down.
addicts aren't people anyway

>>17779592
Or shoot every hispanic in the US in the head and return to pre 1930's crime rates

>>17779598
(Comparing crime rates between countries is retarded because different countries have different legal standards btw)
>>17779601
>pre 1930's crime rates
lmao!

>>17779466
This era saw a rise in crime even in countries with better services for the mentally ill. Most mentally ill people are also not a threat to others so much as to themselves.

>>17779598
NY led the way in passing harsh anti drug laws... In the early 1970s

>>17779612
crime went up in oregon after they decriminalized drugs and they had to undo the law
>>17779615
>>17779466
this. the mentally ill really don't do violent crimes

>>17779598
>that has literally never worked anywhere
Worked with weed and alcohol

>>17779623
>crime went up in oregon after they decriminalized drugs and they had to undo the law
Correlation =/= Causation

>>17779619
nyc is famously one of the safer big cities in the US so the anti drug laws worked. Guliani eutanizing all he homeless also worked
>>17779624
it didn't work with weed. crime rates went up in the states that legalized weed.

>>17779626
>hey this tough on drugs thing works literally every time is has been tried
>hey this week in drug thing has resulted in more crime every time it's been tried
just admit you want to keep doing your hobby of jerking off while on narcotics

>>17779612
>import hispanics ilelgally
>they fill your coutnry with drugs
>wtf where did all these drugs come from
>what about the illegal aliens whose only cultures is selling drugs
>nah

>>17779627
>it didn't work with weed. crime rates went up in the states that legalized weed.
[citation needed]

>>17779629
>"Hey you know all those times they legalized drugs without concequence?"
>"Well jut ignore all those times because muh Mexicans!"
lmao you're pathetic bro

>>17779640
can't post it. against the rules. do your own research
>>17779641
did you reply to the wrong person, retardo?

>>17779627
>it didn't work with weed. crime rates went up in the states that legalized weed.
This is a bold faced lie. California legalized recreational weed in 2016 and sales began in 2018, and there was no appreciable rises in violent crime or property crime that can be attributed to this. Why the fuck do you retards just say things without even fact checking yourselves first?

>>17779643
>can't post it. against the rules. do your own research
You lost bro

>>17779648
nope, you lost, fagito
>>17779646
crime is up in califonia. they have way more property crime. your graph is propaganda. crime is so bad fucking SF recalled their DA.
weed addicts are disgusting and evil and legalizing weed has never worked

>>17779651
you're missing something important: today's weed is not 1973's weed. the stuff today is a lot more powerful and more like LSD in its potency.

>>17779627
Lol from the 1970s until the 1990s NYC was notorious for crime and social problems.

>>17779651
>Just ignore evidence that contradicts my narrarative lmao
Dude you're on fucking drugs yourself man, how the fuck do you expect to have a productive conversation about anything when you're already primed to just ignore evidence and make shit up?

>>17779598
Singapore executes some drug dealers. Users face prison terms and caning

>>17779658
weed addicts have always been shitheads
>>17779665
because the graph you posted is fake. also no, I don't do drugs since I'm not a homosexual

>>17777585 (OP)
****** rights finally got the white man off their back, so they were able to live the violent lifestyles they prefer. You can thank ****** Luther Kang.

>Yor graph is propagando bro
Pic related comes from FBI statistics compiled under the Trump Administration. Crime in California is down, weed does not increase violent crime. You lost.

>>17779660
yeah, because democrat rule, then they hired a republican and he euthanized all the homeless and ended crime in the city
>>17779667
based singapore

>>17779672
that graph is fake news. weed increases crime. you are a drug addict

>>17779676
I hope you never leave your Flyover shithole Cleetus

>>17779673
Much of Asia is like that actually, including countries with significantly more crime and drug use. Singapore just has more professional law enforcement and less corruption and it's a small island.

>>17779683
Japan apparently still has a huge meth problem in some communities, and in China it's actually fairly easy to get your hands on drugs like weed if you know where to look, I think law enforcement when it comes to narcotics is just very selectively enforced unless you're going out of your way to disturb the peace but that's basically everywhere

>>17779672
>t. drug addict
Let me guess, "IT'S NOT A DRUG IT'S AN HEEERRRRRRBBBB DUUUUUUDE". You losers turn my stomach. I wish the feds had the resources to go after animals like you.

>>17779683
and singapore kills the drug users
>>17779678
I hope you overdose, faggot

I think meth and alcohol cause the most crime by far.

>>17779672
Why is there a crime index which doesn't accurately show crime rates? This is why anybody left of center should be shot

>>17779706
weed causes the most crimes and it isn't close

>>17779709
>Everyone is lyring about violent crimes except for my best friend on the Cleetus Podcast

>>17779717
That graph is not using official californian crime statistics, it's using "real time crime index" which shows california's crime dropping. But if you using california's DOJ statistics for crime it shows crime has been climbing for the past 10 years

>>17779758
> But if you using california's DOJ statistics for crime it shows crime has been climbing for the past 10 years
Firstly that's not even true, secondly, I thought the DOJ was Propaganda? Wouldn't the FBI be a more impartial source?

>>17779761
Yes it is true, california's crime has been climbing at a steady rate since 2018, the exact opposite of what the RTCI shows, which is what your graph is

>>17779761
Wait I don't even know where you got that graph from, it's literally just a random graph

>>17778355
I shouldn't have to, it's retarded on its very face to believe that magic fumes caused a global crime wave in the 1970s.

>>17779767
https://www.cjcj.org/reports-publications/blog/new-fbi-data-californias-crime-rate-is-at-record-lows-yet-crime-wave-lies-persist

Also redditors and other pseuds love shit like "LEADED GASOLINE MADE EVERYONE CUHRAZY AND CAUSED CRIME" because it makes them feel smart and lets them view people from before their time as dumb as a way of boosting themselves up (also it gives them a piece of "totally true" trivia they can use at gatherings and on reddit to look smart). If it was leaded gas, why did the violent crime rate continue to go up throughout the 1980s even though leaded gas was being filtered out and fell before the all out ban and is still higher than it was in the 1970s?

>>17779676
>fbi statistics are fake until i need to mention crime by race statistics

Bush, Clinton, and Schwarzenegger (chads) all admitted to consuming the devils lettuce

>>17777922
The US post-war boom was built on hollowing out urban centers while money moved to the suburbs. Eventually by the 90s, urban renewal kicked off and greatly increased conditions in inner city areas.
In Europe its probably down to the slump after WW2, and Cold War political instability, where there was lots of sectarian violence between factions.

>>17779900
The population cohort who grew up inhaling the fumes was still growing up and coming of age

>>17779699
They don't actually, like I said they just face prison time and caning. Unless they're hoarding drugs.

>>17779717
if crime isn't up, why did SF recall their communist DA?
>>17779758
this

>>17780330
only subhuman homosexuals use weed. all 3 of those guys raped kids on epstine island

>>17777585 (OP)
The powers that be thought that the implementation of a sweeping police/surveillance state would help bring about a more expedient acceptance of their war aims. They used a two prong approach of covertly funding/supplying black markets and creating instability both at home and abroad. This created generation after generation of violent and impoverished people who were predisposed to crime. While fomenting this they then made an appeal to all the normal people and asked if they would like increased surveillance and police presence to ensure they didn't get stabbed at say a track meet. People were unaware of the warfare going on above their heads and so said yes and the surveillance state was expanded, but it was expanded in equal proportion to the instability. This creates a positive feedback loop where each time the means to "protect" you are expanded, the means to terrorize you are as well. Around the 1970s is when we see this plan kick into effect, they didn't quite have the ratios right initially which is why there was such a massive spike, but they've got it down to a science by now.

>>17780645
Is it any comfort to the people that get stabbed to death by unhinged drug addicts that some brown djinnbrain retard thinks its all part of some government plot

>>17780551
>le commie xdd
Back to 1951

>>17781806
multiple high ranking members of the party literally have ties to the CCP

>>17777585 (OP)
Because the CIA was in its prime and started enlisting people from various mobs and mafias to help them out, allowing for them to gain significant power and have authoritative figures turn a blind eye to their misdeeds.

>>17780669
It's of zero comfort to them, this is why the government should be overthrown and sabotaged. They have long since violated any mandate they had over us, the country is infested with people that have no interest in the betterment of our nation, in fact they benefit from its continued degeneration. America will fall assuming it does not shed the jew parasites and resolve the brown issue, it is not a matter of if but when.

>>17780669
I just realized you were calling me brown. Which is hilarious, but also untrue. I don't wholly blame people with different pigmentation for my issue, but their overwhelming presence in my country is undoubtedly a figure which accelerates its downfall. I am pragmatic in that sense, I don't alienate but I certainly do not obfuscate.

>>17779892
Oh this is where they're just not reporting crimes anymore
>A substantial number of California law enforcement agencies, including major ones like the Los Angeles Police Department and the San Francisco Police Department, have been inconsistent or delayed in reporting crime data to the FBI
>California is second worst in nation on FBI crime reporting
>only 400 of the 800 agencies in california report to the FBI

>>17782620
>As of late 2023, California was one of four large states that "essentially do not participate in NIBRS

>>17782620
Holy shit bro you're still on this? I'm not going to continue this because the Jannies already gave me a warning for not being /his/ enough but please find a new hill to die on

>>17782626
kek was it this thread or did you set off one of the resident autists in another thread?

>>17777623
Drugs were being pushed hardcore.

>>17778064
Neoliberalism?

>>17782626
I'm just pointing out it's genuinely numbers fuckery. Robbery is up 10% over the last 20 years, larceny is spiking, especilly in the bay area where it was up 20% over 4 years

>>17782626
based jannies raping the commie.