What would the Roman Catholic Church have to drop in order to closely follow the early church? Stuff right now does seem to be suspect. Primitivism could help.

>>17777694 (OP)
>A bunch of men who aren't allowed to lose their virginity turn out to be gay
truly a mystery

>>17777694 (OP)
>greenberg
they’re not even trying

>>17777694 (OP)
We have writtings from the Apostolic Fathers telling people how the first faithful acted and performed their worships.
The Church adhered as close to it as possible while also acknowledging the theological progress over the years

>>17777756
Then what's got the church in this situation? You also see outright heresy like this coming from the institution, as of recent years.

>>17777694 (OP)
Well, it's somewhat of a misnomer that we need to emulate the early Church as much as possible.

The Church is GUIDED by the Holy Spirit, not held stagnant by it. Christ foresaw the future, and knew continuing revelation would be needed.

We love God above all else, including the traditions of men.

>>17777766
That is from Vatican II
It upholds that Jesus is the only way.
It just made the emphasis that
1. If you know Jesus, your mission is to accept him as Lord
2. If you are of a different faith, your mission is to seek Christ

Yes, Jews and anyone else can be saved *if they spent their lives seeking the Truth.
But if they already know Christ but chooses to reject him with a full heart, then they have made their decision

And yes, it is biblical
"You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works"
Your faith is reflected in your actions

>>17777777

>>17777862
>>17777766
The previous pope said that all religions are paths to God. So what's the point of being Catholic?

>>17778049
Contrary to what propaganda tells you, Pope Francis was not aiming to contradict the Catholic teaching.
He was calling for a mutual discussion between all faiths as people who are seeking God

No matter what faith you are, your goal is to ask questions and find the truth. This is Pope Francis' aim - to leverage everyone's desire to understand our maker

>B-BUT DA POPE SAYS
there's never been an educated protestant actually attempts to refute the church, because all the educated protestants end up converting.

>there's never been an educated protestant actually attempts to refute the church
saaaaaarrrrrrr

>>17777699
>profession that explicitly forbids its members from engaging in romantic/sexual activity with the opposite sex ends up a refuge for closet-cases from trad families that don't want to make mamma cry by coming out as a fag
>"the jews did this o algo"

>>17778136
Members of the Church aren't really required to be restrained virgins
Married individuals are free to join so long as they would leave their family for the Church (not abandoned, mind you). And should their wife die, they are not allowed to remarry until they leave the Church first

>>17778136
Also, yeah. We it is most definitely just another anti-Catholic smear

>>17778136
>be boomer
>have gay son
>son avoids draft for being a sodomite
>son doesn't die in war
>disappointment to the entire family
>boomer friends have same problem
>send boomer sons to conversion camps and church schools
>eventually banish them to priesthood
>fast forward 40 years
>"Oh no! another priest was caught diddling kids!" :o

Crazy how this only became a problem after the 19th century while celibate clergymen was a practice for 800 years prior.

>>17778124
>kisses nigglet feet
Yeah catholics are fags, sorry

>>17778150
you're gonna have to defend this post when you meet our maker, and its not going to go well for you.

>>17778151
I'm shivering in my booties. Enjoy your faggy ass denomination tho, boylover

>>17778150
Reenactment of the washing of the feet happens at every Church

I personally experienced it when I was 9. I just got dragged onto the altar, given a robe, and let the priest wash my feet and kissed it.

It's a reenactment of one of the most controversial scenes in the bible
The Feet is seen as the filthiest part of the body throughout the entire middle east. You do NOT present it to someone superior to you as that is a grave insult

To this day, throwing shoe at someone is the biggest insult in the Middle East

>>17778162
Nigga I don't care kissing some nogglets feet when he's clearly just some dumb non-catholic refugee street shitter is unforgivable, and if that's what your religion considers good to do no wonder it's dying. Pathetic as fuck

>>17778164
The fact that he is in a mass say otherwise

>>17778165
Uhuh. Whatever helps you sleep at night retard

>>17778144
The overwhelming majority of catholic priests went into the seminary as young men that had never married.

>>17777862
>Yes, Jews and anyone else can be saved *if they spent their lives seeking the Truth.
The people who believe Jesus was a charlatan being tortured in Hell right now in boiling shit can be saved? Why are Catholics like this?

>>17778162
>I just got dragged onto the altar, given a robe, and let the priest wash my feet and kissed it.
Romanists are never beating the allegations are they

>>17777694 (OP)
Heresies of the Romanists:
-Murder (war)
-Adultery (divorce and remarriage)
-Idolatry (bowing, kissing, burning incense, lighting candles, crowning)
-Blasphemy (Mary’s sinlessness)
-Doctrinal development (“binding and loosing” heresy)-
-Church Invincibility (Gates of Hades heresy)
-False ordinations
-False temples
-Judaizing (incense, altars, priestly garments, etc.)
-Simony
-Love of riches (gold everywhere, salaries, no house churches, etc.)
-Immodest women (unveiled, wearing harlot dresses, makeup, jewelry, etc.)
-Effeminacy of men (allowing long hair, shaving beards)
-Neglect of children (government school, women working outside of the home, etc.)
-Denying Hierarchy in the Trinity
-Removing public confession
-Souls in heaven (souls go to hades, not heaven; souls are purged, etc.)
-Perverted Resurrection (having female bodies)
-Corrupt Masoretic text (no Septuagint)
-Papacy
-Penal Substitution Atonement
-Transubstantiation
-Unleavened Eucharist bread
-Denying Nephilim
-Adding sacraments (Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Marriage, -Ordination)
-Destroying church order (no deaconesses; separation of catechumens, hearers, prostrators, etc....)
-Kneeling on Sundays
-No holy kiss
-Exposing dead bodies
-Incorrupt saints
-Slandering Church Fathers
-Superstition (Rosary, babbling prayers, holy water, amulets)
-Condemning the Millennium
See for more info:
https://ante-nicenechristianity.com/

>>17778149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus

This has been an issue for centuries; my own theory is that the declining prestige of the priesthood combined with the liberalisation of the church with Vatican II meant that most young (hetero) catholic men saw little value in pursuing a career with the church, which combined with the exodus of (hetero) catholic priests after Vatican II meant that homosexual element in the clergy became even more disproportionate to its share of the non-clerical population.

>>17778202
If you don't know who Jesus truly is, then you cannot be condemned. The bible is blatant that it is not a sin if you are not aware of what is right and what is wrong.

Doesn't mean that you are saved either, though
Their mission is to keep on asking questions and search for the truth. They have to fulfill that if they want to be saved

>>17778206
We had only a small chapel with barely 30 people, dude

>>17778206
Also, the Church has always aimed for the youth.
It is you guys who are weird for thinking that we shouldn't introduce Christ to God's greatest gift

Existence of tares is no reason to ruin the field

>>17778221
>>17778149
This was prophecized since 1600's.

Almost every single case of sexual indecency happened after 1950, just as Mary prophecized

When people talk about the "child abuses in the Church" in reality it is just gays abusing boys. But people don´t label it as "gays abusing children in the Church".

>>17778328
>the Church has always aimed for the youth
khek, yes indeed

>>17777694 (OP)
Reminder that the priesthood was given to the Levites because they took their swords and killed the Israelites that worshipped the golden calf. Showing that they were zealous for God and loved him more than their loved their brethren. And God made a law that is hey must only marry virgin girls because God loved them and made them holy. So that they wouldn't be defiled.

>>17777938
Mother of digits.

>>17778144

God permits a man to marry multiple wives and have concubines. His chosen one, Jacob has 4 wives. Why does the church not respect the will of God?

>>17778162
>Luci
And another idol is born.

>>17778162
I bet you have a statue of Luci on your altar and you think it gives you good luck of some sort.

>>17778311
“‘If the whole Israelite community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, even though the community is unaware of the matter, when they realize their guilt and the sin they committed becomes known, the assembly must bring a young bull as a sin offering and present it before the tent of meeting.

>>17778331
If a female spirit appears to you with a baby in her arms, that's not Mary you fool. That's Asherah.

>>17778440
It is not a female spirit with a baby in her arms

>>17778432
Every single person in the old testament who had multiple wives ended up suffering because of it. They are not exemplars to live by, but cautionary tales

>>17778438
Notice how it said outright "when they realize their guilt"
You can make your penance and sacrifices once you learned of what you have done

>>17777697
That's not how homosexuality works.