Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:33:13 AM No.17780067
Iām skeptical that the Isa figure in Islam is actually Jesus
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Thread 17780067 - /his/ [Archived: 922 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:35:13 AM No.17780073
>>17780067 (OP)
You would be correct.
You would be correct.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:36:08 AM No.17780075
>>17780067 (OP)
It's what the Bible calls "another Jesus", like the Jesus of Mormonism. Not hard to figure out. Now that this topic is exhausted, do remember to use your options field.
It's what the Bible calls "another Jesus", like the Jesus of Mormonism. Not hard to figure out. Now that this topic is exhausted, do remember to use your options field.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:13:25 AM No.17780306
>>17780067 (OP)
It's his name in Arabic, middle eastern Christians call Jesus Isa
It's his name in Arabic, middle eastern Christians call Jesus Isa
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:44:40 AM No.17780333
>>17780075
>It's what the Bible calls "another Jesus"
I desire to know more, starting with chapter and verse.
>It's what the Bible calls "another Jesus"
I desire to know more, starting with chapter and verse.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:08:26 AM No.17780365
>>17780306
I mean Isa doesnt even seem like a Muslim reinterpretation of Jesus of Nazareth at all. He seems like a totally seperate, wholly Quranic character.
I mean Isa doesnt even seem like a Muslim reinterpretation of Jesus of Nazareth at all. He seems like a totally seperate, wholly Quranic character.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:46:51 AM No.17780409
>>17780365
ah, "seems". it "seems". to you. well, that's something that definitely matters.
ah, "seems". it "seems". to you. well, that's something that definitely matters.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:51:05 PM No.17780940
>>17780409
Anyone really familiar with Jesus will feel the same way. "Isa" is some strange cardboard cutout that doesn't even vaguely resemble the Jesus of the Gospels. No grand parables, pithy wisdom, or witty comebacks. Just a thin cardboard cutout that parrots Muhammad's talking points in the most basic, uninteresting ways.
Anyone really familiar with Jesus will feel the same way. "Isa" is some strange cardboard cutout that doesn't even vaguely resemble the Jesus of the Gospels. No grand parables, pithy wisdom, or witty comebacks. Just a thin cardboard cutout that parrots Muhammad's talking points in the most basic, uninteresting ways.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:34:55 PM No.17781877
>>17781118
was born under a tree and says im not god dont worship me a lot
was born under a tree and says im not god dont worship me a lot
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:57:48 PM No.17782019
>>17780333
2 Corinthians 11:4
> For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
>>17780707
>It's a bot post, ai wrote it.
Nope. Your pattern recognition is completely worthless. Care to admit that?
2 Corinthians 11:4
> For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
>>17780707
>It's a bot post, ai wrote it.
Nope. Your pattern recognition is completely worthless. Care to admit that?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:09:44 AM No.17782261
The thing I dont understand is why even include the virgin birth and call him the word of god and spirit but deny everything else
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:38:46 AM No.17782470
>>17780067 (OP)
>Jesus was a prophet of Allah
>Followers of Jesus go around dying horrible deaths preaching that Jesus is God, died, and came back.
>All claims that the Quran say are false
Yeah I don't buy it either.
>Jesus was a prophet of Allah
>Followers of Jesus go around dying horrible deaths preaching that Jesus is God, died, and came back.
>All claims that the Quran say are false
Yeah I don't buy it either.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:02:08 PM No.17783740
>>17782470
but where does this Isa figure come from? why do they think the things they think about him?
but where does this Isa figure come from? why do they think the things they think about him?
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:17:56 PM No.17783775
>>17783740
They read it in the hadiths or the quran
They read it in the hadiths or the quran
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:03:40 PM No.17785202
>>17783740
The general region of Arabia had various groups of Christians, Jews, other monotheists, and likely some pagans during the lifetime of the prophet Muhammad. He was a merchant before his prophethood, and he came into much contact with various monotheists such as Christians and Jews, who would influence him the most. Some surahs in the Quran are literally just stories taken from Christian legends and literature, a lot not even from the bible (for example surah Al-Kahf).
It's really no surprise that when he started to make his own belief system, Muhammad took the Jesus figure from Christianity as Jesus was pretty popular at the time. Monotheism also became firmly dominant in Arabia for quite a while now as indicated by rock inscriptions that over time pray less and less to gods other than Allah (The God). It could be an evolution of Arabian paganism that adapted to the Christians and Jews, but we really don't know why we see less presence of other gods. This context of increasing monotheism might have influenced Muhammad into styling Jesus as a non-divine prophet. Or maybe there were some who believed in Jesus to be a messiah but not divine and later influenced Muhammad to agree.
The general region of Arabia had various groups of Christians, Jews, other monotheists, and likely some pagans during the lifetime of the prophet Muhammad. He was a merchant before his prophethood, and he came into much contact with various monotheists such as Christians and Jews, who would influence him the most. Some surahs in the Quran are literally just stories taken from Christian legends and literature, a lot not even from the bible (for example surah Al-Kahf).
It's really no surprise that when he started to make his own belief system, Muhammad took the Jesus figure from Christianity as Jesus was pretty popular at the time. Monotheism also became firmly dominant in Arabia for quite a while now as indicated by rock inscriptions that over time pray less and less to gods other than Allah (The God). It could be an evolution of Arabian paganism that adapted to the Christians and Jews, but we really don't know why we see less presence of other gods. This context of increasing monotheism might have influenced Muhammad into styling Jesus as a non-divine prophet. Or maybe there were some who believed in Jesus to be a messiah but not divine and later influenced Muhammad to agree.