Why didn't Napoleon industrialize France?

because in real life you don't push a big red button to start industrializing like in sid meier's civilization

>>17785794
Napoleon could have started industrialization if he dumped his imperial ambitions. With Belgium and Rhin annexed to the French empire and all the accumulated capital is was more than enough to create an industrial juggernaught

>>17785809
He was a dumbass who couldn't even understand steamboats.

>>17785821
Yes Napoleon was unironically retarded. The only people that praise him don't understand how much he fumbled the bag, Hitler and Schlieffen are strategic geniuses compared to Napy

>>17785809
>if he dumped his imperial ambitions
Pretty sure Napoleon would have just ceased to exist without those.

>>17785781 (OP)
>>17785809
>>17785836
i'm not trying to defend bony, but he did he basically spend his entire rule fighting literally everyone again and again?
wasn't there like 7 wars of the coalition against him?
dude couldn't get a break, make sense he was good at nothing but war

>>17785781 (OP)
>napolean
i'm thinking he was some stooge selected for ego issues, easily manipulated. skids greased through a massive bureaucracy into key spots and facilitated into fame. he, or his overlords, genocided france.

>Napoleon
>Industrialize
>1808
Also
>France
I love how internet randos think "industrialization" is like some bullshit you buy off amazon
It just shows up to the crib, you plug it in and then "industreealization go brrrr"
"Why is Sierra Leone so poor? Why don't they just industrialize??"
XXD

>>17785975
what didn't everyone have a steam engine in their house. Why didnt they have like 5 steam engines in their house.
industrialization is pretty much "steam punk" isn't it?

>>17785975
>I love how internet randos think "industrialization" is like some bullshit you buy off amazon
Nah dude, you don't understand. All you need for industrialization is for the government to say "HEY! RETARDED PEASANTS! BE LESS RETARDED/PEASANTY AND DO INDUSTRY STUFF NOW!", and then within 6-18 months (depending on your research modifiers) the factories, supply chains, supporting industries, and educated administrative class just sorta . . . . appear.
>t. formally trained Maoist

>>17785943
>wasn't there like 7 wars of the coalition against him?
He started a good chunk of those like the invasions of Italy, Spain and Russia. He could have settled with the peace of Amiens and rule France for 20 years in peace

>>17785975
The French empire in the peace of Amiens had secured the Rhineland and Belgium which would be the first 2 spots to industrialize in continental Europe. Are you retarded anon?

>>17785781 (OP)
He got high on his own supply and thinking his victories would last forever. Meanwhile everyone else was catching up to the French army.

>>17785781 (OP)
>>17786152
Better question why he didn’t industrialize Austria?

>>17786151
>Italy
You’re not implying that the 1st coalition war began with his invasion of Italy are you?
>spain
Did not start any specific coalition war (was in the timespan of two of them) and was more of its own thing. Yet still a major blunder for boney.
>russia
Did in fact start the 6th coalition war.

So out of 7 coalition wars he started… one (plus peninsula war). Not quite “a good chunk” is it?

>>17786575
The two most disastrous of Napoleonic wars, the Peninsular War and the invasion of Russia, were both started by him.

Napoleon seized power during the war of Second coalition,becoming a dictator

Napoleon ordered the invasion of Haiti by 30k troops

The War of the Third Coalition was caused by Napoleon's annexation of Italy in January 1802

>>17785809
Even ignoring the massive personality shift Napoleon would have had to have undergone to "dump his imperial ambitions", do you seriously think the European monarchies would have just let him sit on his empire long enough for him to industrialize? Of course they wouldn't. The Rhine and Italy would have been perpetual frontlines, to the point that he would have had to pour similar amounts of money (and likely much of his own time) as he did IRL into the army just to defend it. That's on top of the reality that Napoleonic France basically needed war to survive, since the spoils of war and "contributions" from defeated powers made up the grand majority of France's stable income at the time, with few to no banks being willing to lend him a dime.

>>17786575
The Italian campaigns were completly unnecessary and were just done to create titles for his family. The other coalition wars removing the first one were started due French expansionism
>>17786903
>do you seriously think the European monarchies would have just let him sit on his empire long enough for him to industrialize?
Yes, unironically if he left Spain and Russia alone that would have being enough. Only the UK and maybe Austria would keep opposing him
>Napoleonic France basically needed war to survive, since the spoils of war and "contributions" from defeated powers made up the grand majority of France's stable income at the time, with few to no banks being willing to lend him a dime.
Because Napoleon was inept. With a simple land reform like the one of Spain he could have liquidated most of his debt. Napoleon LARPing as Cesar or Alexander mostly explain the failure of the first French empire

>>17785781 (OP)
Was too busy killing 30k frogs a month

>>17787252
>Yes, unironically if he left Spain and Russia alone
You're fucking retarded

>>17787252
The first Italian campaign was to put pressure on the Austrian army there (as ordered by the French government). The second Italian campaign was to liberate Massena’s army besieged in Genoa.

>>17786746
None of this is compelling.

>>17788089
No youbare the fucking moron. Spain was not a threat to Napoleon and never planned on betraying the empire and the continental system was retarded like the entire Russian campaign.
Nappyboos like yourself are probably the most retarded posters in this board and that is saying something

>>17788257
>Spain was not a threat to Napoleon
If Napoleon wanted to secure his southern frontier (so he can concentrate on other "matters") he needs to control Spain

>>17788274
Spain at this time was too busy being completely retarded to him to be a threat, you think that fat inane retard Ferdinand and his cuckold father were ever gonna do anything but flounder around.

>>17788274
Spain was secured, Napoleon saw the shitshow the royal family was to try to gice his brother a better kingdom. By doing that his southern border was not longer protected and became his downfall by killing 1M French troops

>>17789696
I dont think you understand, during the war of the first coalition (1792) Spain invaded France. France could not afford to have a hostile monarchy on its southern border

>>17789721
Holy shit you are stupid

>>17785781 (OP)
Well considering researching machine tools in 1808 would have involved an ahead-of-time penalty of roughly 120 years.

>>17785781 (OP)
Not enough food and process was too destabilizing especially with all the wars he had to deal with.
Louis the 16th tried to do the same with his reform and it caused the revolution.