Why was north America so underdeveloped - /his/ (#17795167) [Archived: 769 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:23:19 AM No.17795167
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As a continent it's very habitable and has alot of resources. Why didn't an advanced pre-colonial civilization develope?

How were ppl that were genetically Asian living in the stone age on such fertile land?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:27:10 AM No.17795168
>>17795167 (OP)
>it's very habitable
You're fucking retarded. Rest of the thread isn't worth engaging in.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:13:04 AM No.17795215
>>17795167 (OP)
>important question
what did anon invent?

he just gets money and post on /his
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:27:09 AM No.17795228
>>17795167 (OP)
They didn't have contact with any of the 4 centers where literally all non-stone age civilizations originate from.

>how come a country that has 0 trade with China have no Xiaomi Mi A3s?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:37:06 AM No.17795241
>>17795167 (OP)
Race.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:47:46 AM No.17795261
>>17795167 (OP)
unlike meso-americans and south americans that had large scales of agricultural civilization, north americans were mostly hunter-gathers.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:26:49 PM No.17795589
>>17795167 (OP)
>As a continent it's very habitable
nigga they made it habitable
They've been practicing slash-and-burn agriculture and semi-permanent lifestyles for millenias. If it weren't for the natives, most of the East Coast for example would be heavily forested, not the "very habitable" place you - or the puritans that made up the first english colonists there, for that matter - know today.
I'd have said, give it a few centuries, and the Injuns would have eventually mostly settled permanently. Given examples like the Haudenosaunee, the Wendat and the Muskogee/Mississipi Injuns forming somewhat sizeable confederations, I'd say it was well underway. The fact that there were semi-civilized outliers already developping or having developed in the past in some particularly plentiful or harsh climates like Cahokia and the Pueblo only point this way.
tl;dr they made the land fertile and were getting there
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:29:37 PM No.17795592
>>17795167 (OP)
There were semi european civilisation there (phoenician/celt traders) but they died of plague mostly
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:32:46 PM No.17795682
>>17795589
Heavily forested is still very habitable, anon.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:33:50 PM No.17795684
>>17795167 (OP)
No great conquerors.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:03:43 PM No.17795949
>>17795682
>How were ppl that were genetically Asian living in the stone age on such fertile land?
heavily forested is habitable, but fertile? no. It takes a lot of work to make a forested area capable of supporting a large population necessary for the development of civic institution in a neolithic people
hell, it's difficult even for a modern civilization. If the land isn't already basically ready to be tilled, it's crap; even more so if you don't have geographical relief to serve as a natural defense for your settlement.
In Quebec it took about a century and a half of European colonist effort to make the Saint-Laurent Valley susceptible to large agrarian production beyond the already worked on lands of Quebec, Trois-Riviรจres and Ville-Marie (modern-day Montrรฉal). Imagine how long it would have took still for natives who only knew about slash-and-burn techniques and usually fucked off when the harvest were poor instead of intensifying efforts.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 7:49:12 PM No.17796148
>>17795241
>Race.
/thread
civilization is the providence of whites
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:01:49 PM No.17796166
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>civilization is the providence of whites
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:04:51 PM No.17796176
return to monke
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>>17796166
go back where you belong
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:15:22 PM No.17796203
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>go back where you belong
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:26:01 PM No.17796236
>>17795167 (OP)
>underdeveloped

You are a retard trying to use modern concepts of what would make something developed like industrialization to judge cultures that adapted well to the environment imposed on them. They lived the way they were supposed to live. They weren't waiting for proto-Nazi motherfuckers to come and kill them under the guise of being savages.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 8:28:07 PM No.17796240
>>17795167 (OP)
>underdeveloped

You are a retard trying to use modern concepts of what would make something developed like industrialization to judge cultures that adapted well to the environment imposed on them. They lived the way they were supposed to live. They weren't waiting for proto-Nazi motherfuckers to come and kill them under the excuse of being savages.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:59:29 AM No.17797403
Cahokia by Greg Harlin for National Geographic WITH TEXT
>>17795167 (OP)
>>17795228
>>17795241
>>17795261
>>17796148
Mexico and all of Central America proper is technically North America, so there you go, those had complex civilizations on par (in at least a decent amount of ways) with some of the most famous Ancient and Medieval civilizations in Eurasia

>But I mean the US and Canada

It may not be as "advanced" as you want, but the Mississippians and other moundbuilders, and the Ancestral Pueblo and other Oasisamericans, had town building agricultural societies. Some sites like Cahokia, pic related got pretty big, larger then any Goth, Gaul, Celtic, Viking etc towns and cities while having similar infanstructure
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:22:00 AM No.17797511
>>17797403
Weren't the Mound-building civilizations abandoned before the arrival of Europeans?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:42:55 AM No.17797538
>>17797511
No.

Cahokia and some other notable sites in particular collapsed around ~1350AD, but a variety of others were still around and were encountered by Spanish expeditions in the 16th-17th century, such as in the Hernando de Soto expedition, where he got caught up in wars between different towns

Hell the Natchez were building Moundbuiler style towns as late as the 18th century
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:48:01 AM No.17797708
>>17795167 (OP)

They didn't had animal traction: horses, donkeys...
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:58:05 AM No.17797719
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>>17795167 (OP)

They were a post-apocalyptic society. The European plagues caused a complete social collapse of sedentary cultures (Mound Builders) to the point that their nomadic descendants talked of them like westerns sometimes talk of Atlantis.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:06:15 PM No.17797783
>>17796166
>>17796203
Nice pics, but what is the substance abuse rates for native Americans?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:40:09 PM No.17797811
Cahokia and Mississipi sites
Cahokia and Mississipi sites
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>>17797719
Anon, Mississipian cultural complex fell apart prior to the arrival of Europeans to NA. Reasons unknown/theorized but the people that one Spanish expedition encountered in the mid 1500s were already a unicorn within the context of the ex-mound building area.
European plagues and colonisation can only be blamed for making sure that sedentary cultures didn't reappear after the conditions that caused the destruction of mound builders went away.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:31:05 PM No.17797841
>>17797811
>>17797719
see
>>17797538
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:07:06 PM No.17798013
>>17795228
Well actually this.
If you see how science and inventions developed in Eurasia many things were invented far away adopted and we're basis for next scientific and industrial steps. Without them there wioed be no progress.
Europe didn't invent horse collar, horse show, gunpowder, paper (all invented by China). Europe didn't invent Arabic numerals. But without all them it's impossible to progress.
No imagine you have no contacts to receive these inventions, you can easily stall for another thousands years.
Knowledge exchange with another civilisations was extremely important and doesn't get enough attention.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:11:57 PM No.17798024
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>>17795949
>It takes a lot of work to make a forested area capable of supporting a large population necessary for the development of civic institution in a neolithic people
Slavs were not much different from neolithic people. Russian peasants started used iron ploughs only in the second half of the 19th century, iron age finally...
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:13:37 PM No.17798026
>>17797811
>Reasons unknown/theorized
Died from plagues brought by Vikings.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:03:48 PM No.17798092
>>17795241
>>17796148
snowniggers dom't have a cradle of civilization, their entire civilization is a copy of MENA and kike civilization (they worship kikes and niggers too)
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:06:31 PM No.17798100
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Pic related is north american
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:09:10 PM No.17798108
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>>17798100
Also all of these
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:18:32 PM No.17798122
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>>17798108
native americans north americans also built massive stone structures in multiple stories, this wasn't exclusive to south america
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:19:33 PM No.17798127
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>>17798122
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:20:35 PM No.17798131
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:22:53 PM No.17798136
>>17797783
Non-whites always project their worst aspects onto whites thinking its an own, but whatever it is is always a bigger problem with their people.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:56:00 PM No.17798254
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:22:56 PM No.17798926
>>17797783
So jews introduce whites to usury and porn, they're le bad and that's they're fault. You introduce the Injuns to firewater and your hands are clean?

/pol/tranny logic
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:36:52 AM No.17799479
>>17795167 (OP)
Anon they developed a civ in isolation from the rest of Europe,imagine if the Spanish didnt find their neighbors in the south who had better tech and speard north
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:09:49 AM No.17799775
>>17795168
Evidently it is faggot
>>17795228
This is just clearly wrong, why is /his/ so retarded. Agriculture developed Independently in various hotbeds around the world, including south america. South America also had metal working and various post - neolithic technologies. Your retarded ultimate diffusion idea falls apart here.
>>17798092
>Invents everything of value and all of modernity
Kys
>>17796166
>Jeet hands typed this
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:48:56 PM No.17800469
>>17795241
OP got a hundred replies in his last thread, some of which were actually good, but he had to make another thread to get this low IQ response he wanted. The question then is not even why whites are a higher IQ race than Amerindians, but why are North American natives a lower IQ race than Mesoamericans and Andoamericans?