Spain's "Golden Era" - /his/ (#17798096) [Archived: 765 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:05:10 PM No.17798096
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what would be the "golden era" in spanish history? a time when they were some sort of truly great power, or when life was great for citizens.

I know they fell off extremely hard, but I'm interested in the highs before the lows
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:05:53 PM No.17798097
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I see a lot of people like Isabella I, was she really that good? How so?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:10:50 PM No.17798109
>>17798096 (OP)
1500 to 1650. it was all downhill from there.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:10:22 PM No.17798205
>>17798096 (OP)
200 BC to 472 AD
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:15:24 PM No.17798209
>>17798096 (OP)
It wasn't really great for the citizens, that's why it didn't last very long. They failed to utilize the wealth of the colonies as well as anglos because they had poor grasp of economics.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:19:32 PM No.17798214
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From one of the greatest minds of Renaissance

>"After the creation of the world, no empire was found so great nor so admirable as the Spanish one is today... The Spanish Empire is so vast that it is barely believable, filled with such wonders that it seems like a fable to those who do not understand cosmography and the inevitable force of this era... If you look around Africa, from the West to the South, it holds more than 40 kingdoms like Spain. Add to that the domination of nearly the entire Ocean, which is inestimable... Thus, today there is no dominion in the world, nor has there ever been, that reaches even a tenth of the Spanish Empire, and this is not without divine miracle. There are three causes, politically speaking, of human empires: God, prudence, and opportunity... Now, I find that the Spanish Empire, more than all others, is founded on the hidden providence of God, and not on human prudence and strength... Truly, this work was of God, who through marriage united Spain with Austria and granted it inheritance... Moreover, to even greater wonder, God inspired the spirit of Christopher Columbus, a Genoese, to seek the other hemisphere and... he found only one woman who believed and supported him, and that was Queen Isabella... And because it was impossible for so few people, as were the Spaniards, to penetrate among so many innumerable barbarians and to navigate the immense Ocean without stars and without the North Star, amid unknown winds, God provided two marvelous instruments: the compass, for the sea, inspired to Flavio the Italian of Amalfi, and the arquebuses against the barbarians, inspired to a German. Finally, wishing to show His admirable providence, God allowed the King of Portugal to die in Africa without a legitimate heir... Therefore, it is seen that this monarchy of Spain, which embraces all nations and spans the world, is the very one of the Messiah."
- Tommaso Campanella at "Discorsi ai principi d'ltalia".
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:27:03 PM No.17798221
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>>17798097
Nah. The master mind behind was Ferdinand of Aragon. He conquered Naples and Navarra while kicked French out, kicked Portuguese out of Castile during Castilian Civil War, supported his wife at kicking Moors out of Granada, lead expeditions against pirate slaver ports in North Africa, put an Spanish pope in Rome that approved the papal bulls on the Castilian monopoly on the conquest of West Atlantic and Pacific Ocean, married his daughters to Henry VIII and Philip of Habsbourgs, etc etc etc.

>The King of France complains that I have twice deceived him. He lies, the fool; I have deceived him ten times and more.
—Ferdinand the Catholic
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:45:05 PM No.17798241
>>17798214
>>17798221
Two based quotes.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:13:06 PM No.17798543
>>17798109
>1500 to 1650
I would say 1500 to 1700 just because they still had some steam after Peace of Westphalia. The true nail in the coffin, imho, was the War of Spanish Succession.
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6/28/2025, 9:21:31 PM No.17798711
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1492 · 1556: PRIMAVERA.

1556 · 1621: VERANO.

1621 · 1759: OTOÑO.

1759 · 1810: INVIERNO.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:25:15 PM No.17798715
>>17798209
It lasted 3 centuries as a major power which is longer than the british empire lasted
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:33:10 PM No.17798728
>>17798715
The british empire created the commonwealth who stayed in power until not so long ago

With the queen on every currency etc, the main issue with spain and it was with britain, is the vicekingdoms, the uppity new world nobility
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:37:55 PM No.17798733
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>>17798728
>created the commonwealth
Yes and it shows lmao
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:40:50 PM No.17798738
>>17798543
Charles II could have saved the Empire if he had managed to continue the Habsburg line
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:43:11 PM No.17798740
>>17798096 (OP)
>randomly stumble upon a continent full of silver, gold and endless other resources and only inhabitants are technologically inferior savages
>take the wealth
>do nothing with it
>go back to being an irrelevant shithole inferior to all its neighbors
Overrated empire, all their short-lived successes were just luck
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:43:54 PM No.17798742
>>17798733
I will never stop laughing at this charts after studying methodology

Protip instead of asking or looking make shit up until the late 70's with computers accounting, then the money maker was knowing the real demo but lying to the public, so you could secretly pander to the demo and make bank
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:44:38 PM No.17798745
>>17798740
I am a favela dweller from Jalisco and this is my post
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:52:04 PM No.17798754
>>17798745
Cope
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:13:15 PM No.17798787
>>17798738
His testicles were basically carbon, that would have been impossible. Better chances were for his older brother Felipe Prospero to survive or at least for his half-brother Juan Jose to be legitimized.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:51:30 AM No.17799020
>>17798745
Mexico doesn't have favelas.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:53:50 AM No.17799252
>>17798728
>The british empire created the commonwealth
I can't think of a more useless international organization than the "Commonwealth". The Brits genuinely thought the Commonwealth was going to save their asses after Brexit just to realize the rest of the members already had their own main blocs and just thought of the UK as a secondary partner or even a tertiary one.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:58:45 AM No.17799264
>>17798740
This kek
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:35:14 AM No.17799345
>>17798096 (OP)
in resume:
ANOTHER 3 BILLION ESCUDOS TO AUSTRIA (they need it to fight the otomans) + inflation because of the cuantity of rare metals extracted + investment in the colonies