This makes no sense - /his/ (#17798730) [Archived: 754 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:34:37 PM No.17798730
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>france loose 1% more of their population in ww1 than germany and it
demographicaly fucks them until the post ww2 babyboom

>Turkey/Ottoman looses 15% of their population and you never hear anything about it
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:38:33 PM No.17798735
>>17798730 (OP)
The ottomen talk about it, on ottoman language and techno songs
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:37:37 PM No.17798844
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How to solve the incel problem just kill 25% of the male population between 18 and 45
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:47:06 AM No.17799712
>>17798730 (OP)
It definitely fucked them too but they were lucky to have a genius like Ataturk leading the country. Imagine losing 15% of your population, then fighting against the invading countries right after that and having a huge amount of debt left from the Ottomans, and the country not only survives but also vastly improves in every aspect from economy to civil rights and education in just a few years
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:05:18 AM No.17799761
>>17799712
this, plus ataturk also invented a new language, nationality, historiography and religion (turkish liberalism) to replace the previous empire. he got a lot of stuff done.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:37:23 AM No.17799855
>>17798730 (OP)
West Asian BVLLS easily reproduce while orientals and euros cant
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:44:33 AM No.17799867
>>17798730 (OP)
Most of the โ€œofficialโ€ death figures from world war 1 are fake and gay. France lost more people than they claim and turkey lost fewer.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:59:03 AM No.17799884
>>17798730 (OP)
The French birthrate was low to begin with and the Ottomans even at their peak had some qualities that seem to be very typical for middle eastern despoties. The Byzantines kinda did that, the Mamluks did that, lots of other middle eastern countries did that. And by that I mean forcing low level violence to be the commonplace of their system to artificially keep the population low because large populations are harder to govern. Just think about this in this way, Turkey just after WW1 had like 10-14 million people living in it or something. It was forcefully turned into a nation state, a far more stable construct, current population of Turkey is like 80 million. Surely there were some advanced in agriculture etc. happening at the time, but the miniscule population of the country in the imperial times are an obvious sign of massive, centuries long mismanagement. That's why they brushed it off while the French couldn't.

There are also some other problems for the French. For instance women always marry up. If they can't marry up they don't marry, if they don't marry they rarely have kids. Well imagine losing significant portion of the male population in that case, with many others being permanently damaged in a way that makes them low status(whether it's because they can't get a job due to psychological trauma or are simply physically crippled). Who are these women meant to marry? Even though French were pretty secular, expectation of monogamy was still somewhat strongly rooted, well, where's the men for monogamy? Turkey didn't have this problem.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:59:07 AM No.17799885
>>17798730 (OP)
....does the Ottoman figure include Armenian subjects of the empire that were killed in the genocide?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:12:14 AM No.17799906
>>17799884
Low IQ
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:08:23 AM No.17800028
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French demographic history is insane how do go from having 25% of the (known) World population to third violin in Europe in 200 years
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:09:36 AM No.17800031
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>based pro natalist French commies
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:16:11 AM No.17800040
>>17799884
The French also got tons of their academics killed because someone had the brilliant idea of conscripting the grad students in 1914.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:20:23 AM No.17800052
>>17800028
Maybe there was an evolutionary pressure against natalism during the late medieval period when France was overpopulated.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:25 AM No.17800244
>>17798730 (OP)
You can take 15% of your population dying on the chin when your fertility rate is 8 children per woman, not 2.5, barely above replacement.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:25:54 AM No.17800258
>>17798730 (OP)
>and you never hear anything about it
why do you think they decided to sit the 2nd one out
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:34:16 PM No.17800356
>>17798730 (OP)
honestly if I was french I'd also not want any children
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:25:53 PM No.17801301
>>17800040
Everyone did it, it's just a matter of other countries being better at encouraging university students to do officer/nco courses during their summer breaks.