What prevents atheists from walking down the street and murdering random people for no reason?

Fear of the law is functionally the same as fear of hell.

we have places to go people to see

Society

>>17800399 (OP)
Not being osychopaths

>>17800399 (OP)
Nevermind government law or religion

Murdering people is wrong

Religion doesn't get to highjack morality and claim to have a monopoly on being a good person, because when religion does that you just become a liar and a thief

>>17800404
think we both oughta put 'em on hold and i know you agree

because there is no benefit in doing it?
Even if you are the most self-centered sociopath, what's the benefit of stabbing people at random, getting your clothes dirty and going to prison for the rest of your life?

presumably lack of motive and fear of social sanction. so basically the same things that prevent theists (who are quite happy to murder people in many different contexts)

idk they probably dont wanna end up in jail

>>17800404
You’re an arbitrary arrangement of atoms that “wants” to go “see” other arbitrary arrangements of atoms?

>>17800476
Without a metaphysical framework, what is good? Why is something wrong? Why does anything matter?

mirror neurons
empathy
safety and cooperation = civilization

retard american thinks jews are the source of morality lol

sweden, denmark, japan, china, norway, etc are all atheistic countries and do fine

Bump! This is relevant to my interests.

>>17800399 (OP)
The vast majority of people have no desire to murder people for no reason. Some might have to desire to but don't do it because they fear punishment for their actions.
>>17800536
>Without a metaphysical framework, what is good? Why is something wrong? Why does anything matter?
Pro-social behavior leads to more desirable outcomes than anti-social behavior. We label some behavior as good to encourage it and we label some behavior as bad to discourage it. This idea isn't complicated.

>>17800560
holy shit, are you a genus?

>>17800560
What’s a desirable outcome?

>>17800591
To use the example given in the OP a desirable outcome for most people would be to be able to go about their daily life without being murdered or severely injured.

>>17800399 (OP)
It's literally only the fact that ammunition is expensive AF. Without a doubt in your average community or city, everyone is walking around trying to figure out ways to end everyone else. the world is truly in a sad state

>>17800403
But if they have a perfect plan and know they would get away with it 100%. What stops them?

>>17800476
>Murdering people is wrong
Why?

Does this only apply to humans or animals as well? If so should we stop animals from hunting

>But they're less intelligent so it doesn't matter
Does intelligence define how immoral it is to kill someone? Does killing someone with a disability that makes full blown retard chimp level intelligence make it alright to kill them? Why not.

>>17800399 (OP)
>What prevents atheists
The police. Why do you think they want to defund them?

>>17801237
If someone is convinced god will forgive them for killing, what stops them? This scenario is retarded.

>>17800476
The fear of God is the only thing that stops you from doing evil you can profit from. When an evil did benefits you and you know you can get away with it, it is hard to stop yourself without the fear of God.

>>17801237
No plan is perfect and forensic analysis goes a long way, plus no pig is going to rest until they nail you if you kill a shitload of people. More to the point, atheists are underrepresented in all criminal penal institutions and generally don't commit violent crimes.
Meanwhile, pic related is what happens when Christians get the slightest inkling that there are a subsect of their neighbors that they can murder and torture to death without fear of retribution

Belief in God has literally never prevented crime.

>>17801254
That person does not fear God if he thinks he can kill an innocent so nothing stops them.

What stops you from stealing $1000 when you know you can get away with it? What stops you from sleeping with your neighbors wife who you really like and is flirting with you if you know he won't find out?

It's the fear of God.

>>17801267
>What stops you from stealing $1000 when you know you can get away with it?
Knowing people aren't stupid and are going to immediately sniff you out
>What stops you from sleeping with your neighbors wife who you really like and is flirting with you if you know he won't find out?
The fact that he will murder both of you when he catches you
>It's the fear of God.
No mortal man truly fears God because everyone knows he's not fuckin real

>>17801267
>What stops you from stealing $1000 when you know you can get away with it?
Who am I stealing from? Betraying the loyalty of friends and family would prevent me from stealing from them.
>What stops you from sleeping with your neighbors wife who you really like and is flirting with you if you know he won't find out?
Same as above, I would never betray the vowels I made to my wife, who I love. God doesn't factor into it.

>>17800399 (OP)
Mostly it's the fact that I don't want to. Why would I act in a way that conflicts with my desires?

>>17801267
>It's the fear of God.

the fact that christfags will unironically say shit like "I don't steal money, kill innocent people and commit adultery because I'm weally scawed sky daddy will send me to hell" and think that their pissed-pants fear is a marker of morality is literally insane.

Normal, well-adjusted people don't do these things because they are morally wrong and harm innocent people. Fear of punishment is the moral framework of a fucking toddler. Which I guess is what you are, mentally.

>>17801253
Go back to BoomerBook

>>17801305
No, YOU go back to Normiegram

So why did Catholic priests fuck little boys in gods place of worship in front of the cross

>>17801285
>Who am I stealing from?
A stranger.

>>17801307
This website is culturally downstream from twitter and instagram now. Just go back grandpa. Nobody cares if Democrats are the "real racist". That makes them based.

>>17801310
I've been pirating music, films and vidya since I was in elementary school. Atheism is pro-piracy, Christianity is anti-piracy.

>>17801310
Would steal from then.

>>17801310
>stealing is le bad even though you get free stuff
lol

>>17800399 (OP)
>for no reason?
There's no logic in it, you gain nothing from it and you don't have to be religious to feel bad about harming others

>>17801303
They don't actually believe their own bullshit anyway. They lie, cheat, steal, jerk off, stuff themselves and kill, they insult innocents and pass by the needy, they sin all day long despite being promised hell.

>>17801351
You know, I didn't completely believe this until the Republican convention came to Tampa and I personally saw christfag senators and D.C. bureaucrats come out in droves to fuck gay strippers. Fundamentalist christians and gay prostitutes go hand in hand like fundamentalist christians and spitting on the poor.

>>17801358
Did you take any pictures of these high-profile Republican senators at these gay strip clubs?

>>17801367
The obviously gay but actually important christfag freaks like Mike Johnson aren't so sloppy as to just wander into public strip clubs, it was mostly just a horde of suited up christ-nat republican staffers swarming into the red light district. I do have some funny photos but can't post anything here for obvious reasons

>>17801367
>Christian says "show me the evidence"
Lol

>>17801382
But you said you personally saw "christfag senators" fucking gay strippers?

Why can't you post the photos? It's just a 72 hour band, I've had over a hundred by now

>>17801389
Somehow, that doesn't surprise me.

>>17801393
So no pics of gay Republicans partying in Tampa? :(

>>17801358
Chicago anon here
No one here likes the current government. Even chud looking prep bros and bankers. The sole exception is the one lisping homosexual who has a closet full of scarves and claims to be a full blown Catholic.

>>17801446
I actually also live in Chicago now and Brandon Johnson should be hung by the neck until dead for his blatant corruption and racism. Haven't experienced any lisping homocatholics claiming to support his plagarized biden era bullshit but I don't doubt this specific example you gave is based off a very real experience.

>>17800399 (OP)
The same reason you don't either, and it's not because of the Sky-Jew-Kaiju I'm afraid. Most humans have evolved to not blindly murder someone for no reason because reciprocity increases your chances for survival and humans evolved to be social animals. We also rely on a secular moral framework which more or less acts in lieu of religious moral frameworks that have proven to be less reliable for literally every single government outside of Ancient Israelites as the OT is just a law book for ancient Jews

>>17800399 (OP)
Why do you assume that anything prevents me?

>>17800399 (OP)
Most people don't want to murder random people and the tiny few that do probably won't out of fear of the law.

>>17801707
Yes but if they had the inclination (atheists are very bloodthirsty as history shows) they'd murder anyone especially if they think they can get away with it

>>17801716
I think history shows that there has always been a conflict of interests, competition for power and scarce resources, and disagreement of ideals which has lead to violence and bloodshed. The majority of the population hasn't even been historically atheist until the modern day which is relatively peaceful on a global scale and that directly contradicts your claim.

God doesn't stop people from murdering eachother anon. If anything religion has encouraged countless holy wars resulting in millions of needless deaths. You can argue that atheists also waged bloody wars over communism or whatever but at best you're just proving my point that it literally does not matter whether or not you're a Theist or an Atheist. If someone wants someone dead, they're going to find a way to murder them regardless of what you are. That's literally the reason why we have a secular moral framework in the first place, because religion was not sufficient for stopping people from killing eachother, so the state had to step in.

Rabbi Yeshua was a zionist (jewish supremacist) who saw goyim as less than dogs

He also liked to kiddle fiddle goyim little boys in public gardens

Any goyim worshipping this tranny nailed jew suffers from severe stockholm syndrome

>>17801733
>competition for power
Yes that's the primary reason atheists hate religion and why they have sought to erase it from human life. It directly interferes with their own personal goals. Most of the people currently in charge are actually less atheistic than they used to be so of course the nations they rule over will be more peaceful. It doesn't matter what the average person identifies as. And anyway a lot of your "atheists" are simply irreligious, many for example in China still worship ancestors just not as deities

>>17800399 (OP)
>I am a brown psychopath but I'm afraid of hell so that's why I don't murder random people, but I really don't understand what's holding atheists back.
Not everyone is like you, Paco.

>>17800399 (OP)
lack of incentive, fear of punishment and heckin empathy

fear actually

>>17800399 (OP)
What prevents theists from walking down the street and murdering random people because "God told them to do it"?

>>17801777
>And anyway a lot of your "atheists" are simply irreligious
That's what the word means, yes.

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>>17801777
>Bad faith fantasy land.
How many years have you spent on /pol/?

>>17800399 (OP)
Would you if you learned god isn't real with 100% certainty? I would hope not, but it seems like an old book is the only thing stopping christians from doing the most evil things imaginable

>>17801467
When I said "Current government", I meant Trump, retard. The only person in this whole city I've seen slobbing that knob is a lisping homosexual. We call him The Gay Nazi at my bar.
It's kinda funny desu.

>>17801262
>No plan is perfect and forensic analysis goes a long way, plus no pig is going to rest until they nail you if you kill a shitload of people
in USA, 42,2% of people get away with murder. bear in mind many of those who get caught are making no plans and simply impulsively kill someone in broad daylight. in conclusion, there is little to nothing stopping an atheist from killing someone.
>masacre in the year 1320
how does it apply to todays modern life?

What prevents Christians? You genuinely believe that God will forgive you if you repent, right?

>>17805885
>simply impulsively kill someone in broad daylight
That's literally what the op describes.
Anyway, what reasons do you even have for wanting to kill people so bad that if you didn't believe in god, you'd do it despite the fact that each kill would have a 40% chance of completely ruining your life?
You must really hate people, huh?