Thread 17804533 - /his/ [Archived: 617 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:36:51 PM No.17804533
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Why does society generally view pedophilia as morally wrong nowadays, while simultaneously believing that transsexualism for children is acceptable? Isn't this a contradiction?

Surely if children were considered incapable of consenting to sexual activities, they should be considered incapable of consenting to life-changing medical procedures?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:40:39 PM No.17804541
>>17804533 (OP)
inb4 404
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:41:46 PM No.17804544
>>17804541
Looks to be a question about ethics on the humanities board, so it should be fine.
>inb4 people complain about the question
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:43:14 PM No.17804548
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hitlers death severed the thread of prophecy and so we now live in the cursed timeline where weimar degeneracy peaks before vvestern civilization is destroyed, the notaryans take over and doom humanity as a whole using the white man's technology to expand exponentially with no restraint until the point the environment cannot recover and everything implodes
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:44:18 PM No.17804551
>>17804533 (OP)
>Why does society generally view pedophilia as morally wrong nowadays
Because I'm armed and I said so.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:44:56 PM No.17804554
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>>17804551
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:46:35 PM No.17804557
It's not really that simple but you probably knew this anyways OP and just want to be a disingenuous retard
Gender Identity is influenced by a combination of genetic and hormonal factors that can influence your brain structure, and there are tests to determine or at the very least predict gender divergance from biological sex that impacts roughly 0.5% of the population overall
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6677266/

Pedophillia is a fetish for prepubescent humans that are otherwise not physically prepared for sex (it's also often confused for Hebephilia which is somewhat different)

So while Gender dysphoria and Pedophillia are both mental disorders, one carries a very different connotation than the other

Thanks for playing retard
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:48:05 PM No.17804558
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>>17804548
>sex with prime teenage girls like my grandfathers did......LE BAD
Western civilization peaked when Italian pederasts painted nude boys on the interiors of the Sistine Chapel. Nazis were fags who crashed and burned because they were outplayed at the 19th century caudillo game by the British, French, Spanish, and Dutch.
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Chud Anon
6/30/2025, 10:49:15 PM No.17804560
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Remember when we as a society said child beauty pageants were monstrous and wrong, and then liberals suddenly wanted to start turning kids into drag queens? Makes you ponder.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:49:28 PM No.17804561
>>17804558
>teenage
Not pedophillia technically, albeit still morally wrong on different grounds
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:50:17 PM No.17804563
>>17804560
>Remember when we as a society said child beauty pageants were monstrous and wrong
Who is "we"? Youre a SEA monkey. Your countries are full of ladyboys and child brothels.
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Chud Anon
6/30/2025, 10:53:00 PM No.17804570
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>>17804563
>who is โ€œweโ€

Certainly not you, Iโ€™m sure you enjoy fetishist freaks sexualizing children at โ€œPrideโ€
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Chud Anon
6/30/2025, 10:54:47 PM No.17804575
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And why do trans activists demand so much access to children? Things that make you go hmmmmmm
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:59:00 PM No.17804583
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>>17804557
>Pedophillia is a fetish for prepubescent humans that are otherwise not physically prepared for sex
How do you explain these anthropological observations of societies where children openly engage in sexual activities with other children and with adults?
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17743362

Why did the majority of the males Kinsey interviewed report having had a sexual experience before reaching puberty?
>About half of the older males (48%), and nearer two-third (60%) of the boys who were pre-adolescent at the time they contributed their histories, recall homosexual activity in their pre-adolescent years. The mean age of the first homosexual contact is about nine years, two and a half months (9.21 years)

Why do pre-pubertal primates, which are closely related to ourselves and have a similar sexual development, openly engage in sexual activities?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVA_GMe5Gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzz3au6PZhM
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:59:07 PM No.17804584
>>17804575
>demand so much access to children?
Not exclusive to trans activists, just creepy old wealthy pedos in general. Epstein and Diddy weren't trans activists now were they?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:00:51 PM No.17804587
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>>17804570
>disgusting shitskin calling White people pedophiles
Can't wait til trump deports you.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:02:10 PM No.17804589
>>17804583
>How do you explain these anthropological observations of societies where children openly engage in sexual activities with other children and with adults?
Appeal to tradition fallacy. Nobody is pretending like pedophillia is a new thing anon, but that doesn't make it right
>Why did the majority of the males Kinsey interviewed report having had a sexual experience before reaching puberty?
Probably because your genitals still have feeling in them even before puberty? "Sexual experience" is not the same as being physically prepared for penetration anon.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:08:44 PM No.17804612
>>17804589
>Appeal to tradition fallacy.
No it isn't, you claimed that children are physically unprepared for sex, which was the claim I was responding to. I was not making a value judgement.

>"Sexual experience" is not the same as being physically prepared for penetration anon.
Not all sexual activities are penetrative, the majority of adult-child sexual relations are not. And pre-pubertal girls can engage in penetrative activities, some primitive societies actually believe that it is necessary for girls to engage in coitus for them to attain puberty, from that thread:

Alkatcho, Colombia
>Goldman (1963:p369): โ€œ[โ€ฆ] coitus was thought to be required by all just pre-pubescent children to promote physical growth. Young boys were told by their older age-group, โ€œyou better catch a woman pretty soon or you wonโ€™t growโ€. It was also believed that defloration was necessary to bring on the first menses in girlsโ€.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:09:08 PM No.17804617
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>>17804558
wrong, vvestern civilization peaked due to hyperborean genetics, with the most pure genes contained within the hajnal line characterized by:

โ€ข late marriages (present since at least the early medieval period)
โ€ข small family sizes (nuclear or stem families versus extended families; also present since at least the early medieval period)
โ€ข higher average iqs, in general, than populations in the periphery of europe (see map)
โ€ข strong future time orientation, strong societal collectivism, strong preference for rules and order (Ordnung!), strong drive to succeed
โ€ข being more civic than populations in the periphery of europe
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:12:39 PM No.17804627
>>17804612
>children are physically unprepared for sex
Which is true. "Sexual experience" does not require sex anon, as I'm sure you're more than well aware of from many a lonely night in front of a computer screen with a bottle of lube.
>Not all sexual activities are penetrative, the majority of adult-child sexual relations are not.
Motte-and-Bailey fallacy, you're trying to frame pedophillia as normal and innocent, even if no sex is involved, there is still a major issue regarding power dynamics and adults taking advantage of people with less life experience and are physically weaker than them. Next your argument is going to be "children want sexual relations with adults" which no, just no.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:19:23 PM No.17804643
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>>17804558
On the subject of pedophilia, while it remained in other cultures, especially India where 75% of girls are sexually abused, it declined among the aryans and soon became a subject of revulsion and disgust.

Consider the anglo puritans where most girls were cloistered by their families until their early 20s when they were typically married off. Further, the lord of the manor would have to approve of the marriage. Although feudalism declined by the 13th century, tenants remained under the influence of whoever they paid rent to, since he could legally raise their rents or kick them off his land. Thus the institution of marriage followed various customs, first the prospective young man had to know a trade and earn an income, second he had to be of good character, no criminal record, went to church every Sunday, never spoke out against notables, third, the woman had to be at an age where death during childbirth is unlikely.

This can be seen in the parish rosters, men were typically in mid to late 20s and women in their early 20s. Though sometimes middle class men waited until their 30s since their vocations took longer to master and fully establish themselves rendering them deserving of a woman of their own class.

Men who could not get established were rarely married, and so were many poorer women, who might well have children anyway, but these would be the bottom most dregs of society and their children were unlikely to survive to adulthood.

Thus a kind of natural selection sunk in. Not just among the "well bred" upper class who could afford complicated matchmaking, but down to the well-to-do commoners who were not landless laborers, albeit rent paying tenants. The result, a high IQ and a society based around productivity and work, with upper-middle class anglos averaging 110+.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:27:39 PM No.17804657
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>>17804627
>Motte-and-Bailey fallacy, you're trying to frame pedophillia as normal and innocent
I haven't made a single value judgement, I have only pointed out thus far that your claim that children are not physically prepared for sex is false.

>there is still a major issue regarding power dynamics and adults taking advantage of people with less life experience and are physically weaker than them
None of which is implied by an adult-child sexual relation. This could be true of any relationship between two people of unequal powers, and is not exclusive to a sexual relation. Women are not equal, physically or mentally, to men. Does this therefore mean that sexual relations with women are wrong?

>Next your argument is going to be "children want sexual relations with adults"
There are plenty of anthropological examples of children openly and willingly engaging in sexual relations with adults in that thread posted, the first excerpt for example:
>Murphy and Quain (1955 [1966:p83-4]) reported that โ€œthere was no heterosexual activity between children, for there were no girls of appropriate age in the village. Thus, pre-pubescent sexual relations occurred between boys or between boys and men, and almost always it was the boys who were the instigators. [โ€ฆ] The minor homosexual engagements that took place between the boys themselves were [โ€ฆ] in the nature of playโ€, while no adult homosexuality was seen. โ€œThe sexual play of a young child might even include his fatherโ€; at least, one is reported to manipulate a boy in erection, without much consideration for observers.

Furthermore, A Finnish survey conducted on sixth and ninth graders which asked respondents whether or not they had experienced sexual relations with an adult found that 46% of boy respondents that had sexual relations with an adult reported initiating the contact, of which 82% recalled the experience positively.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:29:20 PM No.17804662
>>17804657
Source on the Finnish survey: Rind, B. (2022). "Reactions to Minor-Older and Minor-Peer Sex as a Function of Personal and Situational Variables in a Finnish Nationally Representative Student Sample", Archives of Sexual Behavior, 51, p. 961โ€“985.

So yes, children do want sexual relations with adults, and will initiate them. Many posters here will tell you that they desired sex with adult women before they reached puberty. The only reason it isn't more common in our culture, is because children's parents prevent them from having sexual relations with adults.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:52:33 AM No.17804815
>>17804533 (OP)
Transsexualism isn't morally acceptable at any age, neither is sodomy.
>Why does society
Because of their broken pagan worldview.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:00:33 AM No.17804982
>>17804533 (OP)
>they should be considered incapable of consenting to life-changing medical procedures?

1. Circumcisions are normalized on infants
2. Parents can approve or deny life saving or costing procedures on their children all the time
3. That can include purely cosmetic operations based on gender identity, such as plastic surgeries for breasts on teen girls, or manboob removal on boys, etc

If you're allowed to multilate somebody's "natural" reproductive organs for no good reason, and you're allowed to operate on children to renforce their normal gender identity, then there's not much an argument against blocking children getting treatments which just nudge their appearance towards the other sex, if given the same level of scrutiny as the above

pretty sure kids aren't getting their ducks removed or their breasts cut off as part of being trans as well, at least nobody below like 16
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:14:47 AM No.17805020
>>17804533 (OP)
Neither practice is good and anyone who actually meaningfully opposes one opposes the other, because functionally they are the same thing.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:22:19 AM No.17805046
>>17804982
>If you're allowed to multilate somebody's "natural" reproductive organs for no good reason, and you're allowed to operate on children to renforce their normal gender identity,
Those things are not chemical castration and sterilization though.

Why are there groomers preying on unsuspecting five-year-olds in California and grooming them to sign papers to chemically sterilize themselves without their parents' knowledge or consent? And why are there now politicians who are all of a sudden openly arguing that this kind of outcome is acceptable? Lastly, why are there armies of bots and shills trying to downplay or minimize this phenomenon whenever it is brought up?

There are so many thoughts here. Do these people enjoy causing other people unimaginable suffering and misery? Do they actually enjoy turning other people, innocent children, into maimed, wretched walking abominations?

Whoever these people are, they are pure, unadulterated evil. They will burn for promoting such malicious evil, and disingenuously lying about it all to try to cover it up. This situation is like the parable of the emperor's new clothes, but with the victims being children who were coached at a young age into chemically castrating themselves and nobody in this whole process stepped in to say this was destructive. A lot of people are going to be suffering immensely in hell for this.

"And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
(Matthew 18:5-6)
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:25:11 AM No.17805061
>>17804982
There's no such thing as gender identity, tranny
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:27:03 AM No.17805067
>>17804662
Pretty much every study done by Rind for the last few decades has been categorically thrown out after his 98 fiasco and the melty he had when errors in his statistical methods and conclusions were shown. The man is not considered to be a serious resource to the field and is kind of like the Graham Hancock of pedophilia, it's disingenuous to cite him as evidence that children want to have sex with adults and he doesn't even try to make that claim.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:45:56 AM No.17805123
>>17804533 (OP)
You make such a good point.

They say they are not old enough to decide who gets to touch them, but apparently they are old enough to decide genital mutilation. It's very interesting.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:49:15 AM No.17805130
>>17805067
>Pretty much every study done by Rind for the last few decades has been categorically thrown out after his 98 fiasco
The '98 fiasco where a bunch of congressmen who don't even know what they're voting on and just vote for whatever their AIPAC handler tells them to, voted to officially say "I don't like this!" in response to a scientific paper which they didn't even have the capacity to understand, as highlighted by the congressman Brian Baird, who has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology, when he stated "fewer than 10 had actually read the study, and even fewer were qualified to evaluate it based on its merit"? That fiasco?

>The man is not considered to be a serious resource to the field
Why are his conclusions agreed upon by a large proportion of prominent psychologists?

James Cantor, PhD:
>The research is much more consistent with the conclusion that harm is caused instead by coercion, manipulation, secrecy, and by courting kids who already have problems, not the sexual interactions per se.
Michael Bailey, PhD:
>Indeed, the best scientific evidence suggests that the most typical experiences considered childhood sexual abuse may not be as harmful as most people think. Specifically, sexual activity that children engage in voluntarily (albeit illegally) with adults is nearly uncorrelated with undesirable outcomes
Jordan Peterson, PhD:
>Did you know that about 20 years ago the American Psychological Association published a paper showing that most people who were sexually abused as children recovered with very little psychological damage? This is an unsayable truth.