Were ANFs the most cuckold population that ever lived? Steppoids were far from being the only people that had their way with them. Iran_N/CHG, WHG, Natufians, etc all cucked ANF. The Minoans for example were 75%+ J despite being only 20% CHG/Iran_N, British Neolithic farmers were 100% I2a despite being only 20% WHG, they easily submitted to Zagros bvlls in their own homeland, etc.

Do ANFs have the most successful female lineages?

That recent study about matrilineal ANF societies in anatolia explains a lot now.
Women ruin everything and will cuck your people out of existence.

>>17805410
Yes. They were matriarchal

>>17805422
Not only "matrilineal", but also matrifocal and matrilocalism. They were matriarchal, the first real matriarchal pop

>>17805431
Women were present in all spheres of society and held various political and military positions, in addition to being highly respected for their magical powers.
Anfoids? Our answer?

>>17805393 (OP)
Why matriarchies were so advanced back neolithic/early bronze age?

>>17805438
and how did they end up? anfs were cucked by anyone they met

>>17805438
They weren't a fully matriarchy since that's supposed to be true inversed patriarchy which hasn't been recorded to exist yet

>>17805441
they lived in slightly better mud huts at best and at what price? they lost, whgs fucked their women, chgs fucked their women, iran hgs fucked their women

>>17805444
No... of course not! Women just
They only held the main power, but they were not a matriarchy. This is demonstrated in the burials
first of all, what is a "complete matriarchy", idiot? the american patriarchy of the 50s, by this point, was not totally patrilineal stratification, but you would definitely say that it was a "real patriarchy", but even if you say "matrirchal is not matrilineal", it would still be wrong, since this society was matrifocal and matrilocal, if this is not a "real matriarchy", then we have a new concept of matriarchy? the ancient greeks were patrilocal, patrilineal and patrifocal, nobody says
>hey, they were not a real patriarchy ok?

>>17805444
no, they were in fact a royal matriarchy, even the belief system was focused on the divine feminine, the male lineages even show male exogamy

>>17805452
In anthropology an inverse patriarchy would just be men being discriminated from holding any and all positions of power which you can't ascertain from limited evidence like that. It's pretty simple to understand. Greece had the opposite where women couldn't vote so they qualify as a patriarchy.

>>17805455
that wasn't an answer.
just say that you don't want to believe it for some reason, and even in the very definitions of "matriarchy" that we have, this shit even exceeds what would be expected.
and see how you don't even know what "patriarchy" is, since you define it as something abstract like
>subjugating women
but use fancy words like
>in anthropology, man
>Greece had the opposite where women couldn't vote so they qualify
patriarchy is not defined by who can or cannot vote, and even in its definition, it would be anachronistic. because democracy is not older than the Iron Age, so it would not be correct to base it on this anatolian shit hole

>>17805459
I'm quoting the people who did this recent research on anatolian neolithic societies. They don't use matriarchy to describe it because matrilineal is more apt and those are two different things. Take it up with them.

>>17805393 (OP)

When Spaniards arrived into the New World, they found many agrarian cultures like that in the most primitive regions of Colombia and Paraguay.

Among Guaranis it was common to trade their women with foreign men in order to create military alliances. In matter of a generation Spanish conquistadors had so many sons and daughters that almost replaced all local male lineages. Spanish chroniclers called the Spanish Paraguay the "Mahommedan paradise" given the amount of women conquistadors gained for fighting as mercenaries for local chiefs against local rival tribes.

And among some tribes in Colombia, I do remember reading that it was common for women to be promiscuous. Local men believed that virgin women were a bad omen, either because they were women with no social skills, ugly, or because of STDs. Castilian friars describe this as a reason for widespread promiscuity, coupled with matrilocality and matrifocality.

But as well among several Amazonic tribes, to this day, it is common for women to have several male sexual partners.

There are as well many other examples, specially among Celts, Slavs, Basques, Indians, Koreans and Turkics. But I do think New World tribes are a great example about some causes of female promiscuity and matriarchy.

Among these tribes, which are predominantly matrilocal and matrifocal, men don't have that concept of their own lineage. The bloodline are transmited by women. And the family kindship is mostly Hawaian style (antropologically there are 8 types of family organization including the Hawaian). I suppose many men toyed with the idea of expanding the tribe and making it stronger by incorporating powerful foreigners. Something totally alien to Patriarchal warlike cultures as Semites, Germanics, Latins or Japanese like cultures.

>>17805441
It was specially unique from a culture. Anatolian farmers were matriarchal cultures that promoted female promiscuity.

But at the same time Semites and Proto-Indoeuropeans were warlike patriarchal cultures.

Romans were warlike patriarchal cultures while Celts were more akin to matriarchal and promiscuous values, specially if you read the Roman descriptions of Britain and Spain.

Among Germanics the values were as well warlike patriarchal, meanwhile Slavs were more matriarchal, communal and accepted in many ocassions foreign men from Turkic and Germanic origins.

Among Sub-Subsaharans there are cultures that promote cuckoldry, matriarchy and female promiscuity; while other ethnicities promote an absolute male dominion and the absolute submission and inferiority of women.

It is not related to the historical period, but instead to the very cultural evolution of an ethnic group and maybe the geographic conditions.

It is not strange that patriarchal cultures that replaced or mixed with matriarchal ones, became as well matriarchal, or at least, more matriarchical after getting a territory. As the Semitic bedouins after taking the Canaanite and Sumerian lands, or the Celts after replacing Basques from West Europe, or the Hittites after conquering Anatolia.

>>17805467
Matrilocal societies were violent just in other ways. Farmers were cannibals.

>>17805467
Another example of matriarchical female sexual promiscuity and male cuckoldry, this case, among Turkic tribes from the Buddhist Idiqut Kingdom of Qocho, was given by Marco Polo and Han Chinese men, travellers from across the Silk Road (Arabs, Chinese, Italians, Persians, Mongols, other Turkics, etc.) slept with the women of this men.

Marco Polo also says that Kublai Khan tried to ban this cuckoldry, but both, local men and women pressed him to kept it.

>HERE HE TELLS OF THE PROVINCE OF CAMUL. Camul is a province which used to be* a kingdom by itself, -in the great province of Tangut. There are towns and villages enough under it, and the chief town is called Camul like the province. And the province is towards the plough-beam between two deserts, for on the one side is the very great desert of Lop • of which we have spoken above and on the other is a little desert of three days march in length. -[24d] And the people of that province are all idolaters like the others narrated above, and have a language for them-selves. And they live on the fruit of the land; for they have things to eat and to drink enough, both for themselves and they give and sell them to the wayfarers who pass that way, to whom they will and as they please, ·and to merchants who carry them to other places.- and they are men of very cheerful looks and all greatly given to amusement, for they are devoted to nothing else but the playing of instruments and singing and dancing and briefly in taking great bodily enjoyment. They delight also in reading and writing after their manner.
Marco Polo

The source

>>17805481
Another example of cultural cuckoldry, but among Slavs with Turkic men, given from German sources.

Each year, the Huns [Avars] came to the Slavs, to spend the winter with them; then they took the wives and daughters of the Slavs and slept with them, and among the other mistreatments [already mentioned] the Slavs were also forced to pay levies to the Huns. But the sons of the Huns, who were [then] raised with the wives and daughters of these Wends [Slavs] could not finally endure this oppression anymore and refused obedience to the Huns and began, as already mentioned, a rebellion.

—Chronicle of Fredegar, Book IV, Section 48, written circa 642

>>17805470
>Anatolian farmers were matriarchal cultures that promoted female promiscuity.
Complete fanfiction

>>17805481
Continuation

>And I tell you that, led astray from of old by their idols, -these people have such a custom. If a stranger passes through the region and comes to him to his house to lodge, he is too much delighted at it, and receives him with great joy, and labours to do everything to please. -And he tells his wife, daughters, sisters, and other relations to do all that the stranger wishes more than for him; and he leaves his house and his wife for the stranger, and goes immediately to do his work and stays two days or three on the farm or elsewhere, where he will.- And from there they send all that their guests need (none the less with payment for them); nor do they ever return home while the stranger stays there. And the stranger stays with his wife in the house and does as he likes and lies with her in a bed just as if she were his wife, and they continue in great enjoyment. And in this way it can be said that all those of this city and province aforesaid -of Camul are shamed by their wives as you have heard. But 1 tell you that they do not hold it as a shame to them but regard this as great honour and glory,-because of the general custom which is in all that province ;- and very pleasing lo their idols when they give so good a reception to wayfarers in need of rest, and that for this reason all their goods, children, and wealth are multiplied and kept from all dangers, and all things succeed for them with the greatest happiness. And the women are very fair and gay and very wanton and most obedient to all that their husbands order, -and greatly enjoy this custom.

>>17805486
Dark Age Greek myths of sailing across Aegean islands describe that women from these islands fucked foreigners.

Lydian women were famous, according to Herodotus, for prostitute themselves, just as Sumerians and according to Bible, Canaanites.

>94Now the Lydians have very nearly the same customs as the Hellenes, with the exception that they prostitute their female children;
Histories, 1.94.1

>>17805489
Myth isn't history and your example is irrelevant

>>17805393 (OP)
Who would win in a contest of matriarchy? AASI, chinks, or EEF?

>>17805487
weren't they Muslim at that point already?

>>17805704
cry more retard

>>17805393 (OP)
Yes. The true ancestors of white people.