How did Canada go from a reactionary creation for British loyalists and French Catholics to more progressive than America?

>>17807404 (OP)
>more progressive than America?
Do you REALLY want to have this debate my northern brother?

>>17807404 (OP)
The Cold War. Given its a reactionary state, as you mention, they just do whatever the opposite of the U.S is doing because deep down they know they are just Americans in denial and without a sense of being "opposite" politically to America there's no justification for Canada's sovereignty.

Tl;dr America is North Korea, Canada is South Korea

Same way Australia went from the (second after South Africa) most racist part of the commonwealth to land acknowledgements. When society became atomized people had to feel they were rebelling against "the established order", ironically creating a new order based on being opposed to the old one. Simple Hegelian dialectic.

>>17807404 (OP)
Precisely when that flag disappeared.

Before the fucking leaf
>what is a Canadian?
>descendents of settlers who come from the British isles and France
After the fucking leaf
>uhh, being tolerant or something?
>all people in the world are undocumented Canadians

The Canadian went from being a person steeped in heritage extending back to the middle ages, to just any biomass who is willing to wear the skinsuit of "values" which the almighty state decides is politically convenient at the time. The atomized rational individual consumer, emancipated from the evuls of huwhite tribalism, has no capacity to meaningfully organize against his oppressor, and so is helpless to do anything against globohomo except complain into the void.

>>17807437
The U.S South is the only place in the world that adopted liberalism and managed to maintain a more traditional understanding of ethnos and keep communitarian values.

South of the Ohio and Potomac we're natural herrenvolk democrats, but since the 60s we've become increasingly atomized largely due to Yankee cultural imperialism.

>>17807404 (OP)
From reading The Duel, I get the impression that a the good times after World War II helped a lot along with the conservative party being led by a guy who constantly had a chip on his shoulder regarding entrenched interests and elites which led him to be more sympathetic to the little guy and minorities. Pearson spent most of his adult life in academia and the foreign service so he imbibed a more global and progressive mindset as well and then Trudeau was practically a SocDem. When that was pretty much the leadership of Canada for 30ish years at a time where America was moving more right then of course the country's going to end up more progressive.

>>17807412
No, America is USSR and Canada is North Korea. Both capitalist but Canada tries to hard to make itself seem independent on the world stage and be taken seriously not just America’s lesser neighbor

>>17807543
I kind of agree with the Pearson model of Canada's role in the world stage, at least as far as what I'd read, which is basically just acting as an honest broker for negotiations between the larger powers to maintain peace/good relations and such. Seems like a fairly good way of keeping your country important without trying to play along with the pretensions of being a great power.

Canada is probably the most viably great non-great power in the world though.
>Huge territory
>Rich natural resources
>Barely even developed 10% of its potential
>Stands to gain bigly from climate change, vast amounts of new arable land, newly discovered resources and control over the new most important ocean on the planet.
Canada is basically the country version of a guy with a 9” dick that believes he has a micropenis because the only other one he’s ever seen is his brother with a 12” dick. If Canadians actually believed in themselves and took Canada’s potential seriously it would mog the shit out of Britain, France, Germany and every other Eurofag country within 20 years.

>>17807682
>which is basically just acting as an honest broker for negotiations between the larger powers to maintain peace/good relations and such
This doesn't exactly stir the soul, man.

>>17807404 (OP)
Canada is not a real country
>>17807412
>deep down they know they are just Americans in denial and without a sense of being "opposite"
this

>>17807773
It's a frozen wasteland that nobody wants. Canada was literally the leftover territories in North America that American colonists let the British keep as a concession for winning the war for independence. There's a reason Canada has the population of California, this isn't just some fluke, we just don't live in the timeline where anyone gives a shit about Canada. It's the Russia of the New World (by that I mean that it's huge because it's just made up of leftover scrap frozen wasteland, not in terms of politics)

>>17807822
So is Russia and it’s literally superpower material. Canada could literally be Russia tier strong, but not a poor authoritarian shithole full of Russians. That’s S tier potential.
Thing is though it’s full of resources and increasingly frozen shithole is going to warm into non-frozen prime real estate. In fact partly due to temperature and partly due to advances in technology far more of Canada is potentially habitable than what is actually developed. The government needs to stop recruiting Tim Hortons managers and start recruiting Arctic settlers

>>17807851
>So is Russia and it’s literally superpower material.
lmao

>>17807861
It literally was a superpower until like 30 years ago.

>>17807866
It was barely a superpower for half a century if even that

>>17807873
Yeah and the reason it collapsed had nothing to do with geographic determinism and everything to do with communism being a shitty system. If anything the fact it achieved the success it did in spite of its retarded mode of government is even greater proof of how viable their geography really is.

>>17807404 (OP)
Globalists realized they could exploit the Ontario/Quebec divide to bootstrap "multiculturalism" as a way of handling French/English relations.

>>17807908
More like Quebecois were traitors and just like with the south here they've yet to be properly reconstructed or had their culture stamped out.

>>17807996
Quebecois are the only Canadians with a real national identity. Anglo-Canadians are entirely defined by negatives
>We’re NOT American
>We’re NOT British
>We’re NOT Quebecers
>We’re NOT racist
>We’re NOT sexist
Etc, the result is a completely blank, non-prescriptive identity void that invites immigrants to assimilate into… nothing. Quebecers on the other hand have a very clear conception of what they are
>We ARE Francophone
>We ARE fedora-tippers
>We ARE racist (but also “I’m not a racist but…)
The irony is Quebecer culture isn’t that different from Anglo-Canadian culture beyond the language barrier. But this easily missed, abstract philosophical difference completely changes their mentality and how culture is framed to themselves. Wiping out Quebec culture will not save Canada, the only thing that can save Canada is becoming more like Quebec. Until Canada is Quebeified it’s only a matter of time until it’s swallowed by the United States and the fact it ever even existed becomes a footnote in the history of manifest destiny.

>>17807404 (OP)
>to more progressive than America?

I'm under the impression it was two things:
1. An intense desire to distance themselves from American cultural hegemony. The biggest existential threat at all times to what little identity Canada has is to be completely consumed by their larger neighbor America. This 'dread' has lead to things like the Canadian Broadcasting act and the general modern progressive nature of Canadians.

2. People grossly underestimate how cold and generally inhospitable Canada is compared to America. The geography and the landscape are superficially similar, but the weather and climates couldn't be further from the truth: it gets hot in the summer and it gets artic-cold in the winter, and because of this most people live in Ontario, Quebec, or British Columbia. I mention this specifically because it creates isolated people dependent on the federal government for assistance and is the groundwork for more collectionist attitudes.

With that in mind Canada is currently in a weird cultural economic position because they've been spending quite possibly almost 60-75'ish years just sort of chilling, not thinking about anything too hard, implicitly cooperating with the United States on nearly all matters, and not exactly taking care of themselves. I, or anyone else, could tell you a bunch of things about Canada, but the main deal "right now" is them trying to recover from the whiplash of: assuming America would never take advantage of them or otherwise become "antagonistic" and assuming the free progressive neo-liberal globalist market capitalism Francis Fukuyama prophecy would end.

>>17807412
>deep down they know they are just Americans in denial

The anglo-canadians, sure, but french-canadians are their own thing.

>>17807412
>t. gay retard

>>17807996
cope and seethe, a*Glonigger

>>17808926
Don't get why anglo canadians tell french canadians to go back to france, it's not like the french would understand them any better

>>17807404 (OP)
Scandinavia used to be the chuds' dreamland too.

>>17808079
French Canadians are just Anglo Canadians except instead of defining themselves as not--American they just define themselves as not-Anglo-Canadians

>>17807404 (OP)
Made militarily obsolete for NATO/USA by rapidly advancing Cold War tech, the Commonwealth ended up being a pointless scam rather than a white Anglo proto-EU, so they tried minmaxxing diplomacy via the UN a while until the 90s when Kosovo and Rwanda showed everyone that the UN was literally as pointless as the League of Nations. they have had no angle except "at least we're not Americans!!!" since then

>>17809674
Quebecers don’t really make a concentrated attempt to be contrarian to Anglo Canadians the way the Anglos do to Americans. The fact they speak their own language alleviates this particular kind of insecurity, even though they definitely are salty about Anglos they don’t fear confusion.