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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:25:03 PM No.17809599
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Why were white slavers so much nicer compared to other slavers around the world? Why does nobody bring up how awful the Arabs were to blacks people? Or black slavers that enslaved their own?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:31:50 PM No.17809626
Because Western slavery happened on an industrial scale whereas most slaves elsewhere were simply farmhands.
Same reason people bitch about amazon paying minimum wage but not mom and pop employers.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:33:05 PM No.17809632
>>17809599 (OP)
White slavers were usually delusional christcucks who felt they had to "rescue" niggers from themselves. So they were paternalistic in their racism and felt that abusing a black slave reflected on them just as badly as abusing a defenseless animal. Arabs just didn't give a shit.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:36:12 PM No.17809642
>>17809599 (OP)
How were they worse than white people?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:39:31 PM No.17809651
>>17809642
If you were enslaved by Arabs it was pretty much a given that you'd be castrated. Chuds here pretend it never happened under whites(it did) but it wasn't as frequent because if you couldn't breed more slaves you'd be losing profit in the long run.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:40:53 PM No.17809654
>>17809642
They castrated them and had de jure sexual slavery.
>b-but white guys fucking dey slaves
Always done tacitly, never outright with full consent of the political and religious institutions.
If a Southern slave owner was fucking a slave and it got out it could become a scandal. If a Muslim was fucking what his right hand posessed his imam would give him a high five.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:44:33 PM No.17809669
>>17809654
>If a Southern slave owner was fucking a slave and it got out it could become a scandal.
No it wasn't. Niggers were property.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:47:25 PM No.17809682
>>17809669
Sex outside marriage was a no-no for hardcore Christians. The Quran allows for it.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:51:40 PM No.17809693
>>17809599 (OP)
What are you talking about retard
Mamluks slaves for exemple were raised as elite military units and they became the elites of their country
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:53:30 PM No.17809697
>>17809651
Thats a myth
Mamluks and Ghulams werent castrated
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:54:31 PM No.17809698
>>17809654
>muh castration
Again a myth
Mamluks, Jannisaries, Ghulams, Abid al Bukhari werent castrated
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:56:06 PM No.17809705
because that is what you want to think
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:56:33 PM No.17809707
>>17809698
>cats exist, so dogs can't
wow thanks anon
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nigger
7/2/2025, 9:56:35 PM No.17809708
>>17809599 (OP)
New World slavery was worse than Old World slavery because in the Old World you could buy your freedom, you were released after a few years anyways and the condition wasn't hereditary. The sons of Arabs and black slaves were literally born free and provided for by their fathers.
Don't @ me that infidel slavers were more humane
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:57:37 PM No.17809710
>>17809682
>southern baptists and evangelcucks
>Christians
Good one, Jebediah.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:59:21 PM No.17809714
>>17809642
They weren't. The people entering this thread don't know anything about slavery in the MENA. They'll just say anything to downplay American slavery because they hate niggers.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:00:26 PM No.17809717
>>17809697
We’re talking about nigger slaves. It is in no way, shape, or form a myth. 60% of captives died before delivery because of the brutal castration method which consisted of literally just chopping your genitalia off, causing profuse bleeding. This disgusted even the Arab potential slave buyers so much that they pushed for the practice to be banned, but the slavers did not approve of this, so they would castrate the slaves before returning and just say they got them from someone else already like that. They hated blacks, and this is where the West got the idea of race-based slavery from.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:01:04 PM No.17809721
>>17809710
>rejecting ecumenism
you disagree with your own church
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:05:00 PM No.17809733
>>17809714
True and based. (The people doing it, not you)
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:39:06 PM No.17809811
>>17809717
>This disgusted even the Arab potential slave buyers so much that they pushed for the practice to be banned, but the slavers did not approve of this, so they would castrate the slaves before returning and just say they got them from someone else already like that.
Why did the traders want to castrate them if the buyers didn't want it?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:42:06 PM No.17809824
>>17809717
>This disgusted even the Arab potential slave buyers so much that they pushed for the practice to be banned, but the slavers did not approve of this, so they would castrate the slaves before returning and just say they got them from someone else already like that.
Source?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:43:07 PM No.17809827
>>17809811
They were probably more aggressive/lustful with balls.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:44:38 PM No.17809830
>>17809714
/thread
>>17809733
Thanks for confirming his point.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:47:08 PM No.17809836
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>>17809827
Yeah sure, but again if the traders were just going to sell them anyway, who cares? How was it worth the death rate if a eunuch slave didn't have higher value?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:59:26 PM No.17809881
>>17809836
Slave revolts are more likely if they keep their balls.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:05:22 PM No.17809903
White people are just nicer. Why do you think they bend over and spread their ass cheeks apart for Muslims to enter into?

Most other ethnicities are casually cruel to animals. It’s a lot lessened amongst a white population. Have you SEEN the amount of Southwest Asian videos of people bullying baby monkeys?

I think non-whites are just too unhappy or ungrateful, and white people are way too nice to accept their own moral superiority. They want to see the good in all.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:10:15 PM No.17809912
>>17809903
Fuck off white devil
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:11:31 PM No.17809914
>>17809912
Brahma wisdom
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:29:43 PM No.17809941
>>17809626
Wdym industrial level.
Muslims absolutely did that shit on an industrial scale
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:43:13 PM No.17809964
>>17809811
Original guy you replied to here, I forget, it’s been a long time. I remember one particular reason, but there were others: belief in the inherent inferiority of black-skinned peoples.

For example, there was a famous Shia who said “beware of marrying the Zunj (Negroes), for they are an ugly creation.”

On the other hand, there is a well-known story (you’ll have to look it up) of a )I believe) Sunni leader complaining about the gift provided by one of his vassals, which was one black slave, condescendingly remarking “if you could have chosen a number lower than one, and a color worse than black, you would have given it to me.” Arabs (and Persians) saw the blacks as inherently inferior and feared what the future of their regions would resemble if they were ever emancipated or revolted and began to reproduce in high number. The marshlands of modern-day southern Iraq and Southwestern Iran were majority black due to slavery, and this is where the famous Zanj rebellion occurred. Notice the similarity to the aforementioned term “Zunj”, for they mean the same thing. They were used to clear marshland in the sweltering heat so the land could be used for agriculture. Arabs preferred Turkic and Georgian people for warriors, and Saqaliba (Slavic, Germanic, and Southeast European) for warriors sometimes, but predominantly what we’d call “house slaves” because they were viewed as more charismatic, intelligent.

>>17809824
Honestly you’ll just have to look it up or watch a documentary that cites sources directly in the description or in the video itself. Any YT video about the Zanj rebellion or “Arab Slave Trade” should have ample amounts of valuable information. I don’t keep source lists anymore
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:07:55 AM No.17810347
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>>17809599 (OP)
>White Slavers
No such thing
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:23:47 AM No.17810365
>>17810347
This. The English crown sold land with new slaves attached as a bundle deal in Virginia. Originally you would get land if you brought laborers over to the US, so it was incentivized to hire white servants. But eventually the crown said fuck it and were hurling negro slaves onto anybody with money entering Virginia.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:50:04 AM No.17810411
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>>17809599 (OP)
>white slavers
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:51:06 AM No.17810416
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:52:07 AM No.17810420
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:53:09 AM No.17810421
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:54:11 AM No.17810427
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:58:24 AM No.17810433
>>17809599 (OP)
they weren't nicer, look at disease rates and life expectancy in the Caribbean
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:26:40 AM No.17810559
>>17809599 (OP)
>Why were white slavers so much nicer
My best friend who was from South Africa basically grew up as a slave bounded to the land and working for the same 1-2 families for generations.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:07:53 AM No.17810683
>>17809707
Majority of slaves werent castrated
>>17809717
Abid al bukhari were black
Some mamluks were black
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:22:33 PM No.17811128
>>17809964
>you’ll have to look it up
>you'll have to make my argument for me
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:23:56 PM No.17811132
You must be delusional

White slavers are some of the worst in history
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:24:27 PM No.17811133
>>17809599 (OP)
>AI frogpost
into the trash it goes
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:26:42 PM No.17811136
>>17809599 (OP)
>Why were white slavers so much nicer compared to other slavers around the world?

>Literally works you to death in a few years because it's more profitable to do that and buy a new slave
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:40:52 PM No.17811156
>>17809599 (OP)
America fucked up by creating a permanently indigent class of people descended from slaves. This class of people was at the bottom of a racial caste system that lasted well into living memory. The problems caused by that continue to exist today. It should be no surprise that a grievance culture has developed surrounding that and that slavery is something those people can't move on from.

For all their faults, the Muslims were smart enough not to do this after getting rocked by slave revolts in their early history. They developed a system whereby once you were manumitted you enjoyed equal rights to all other people from your faith background. A Muslim ex-slave had just as many legal rights in the Ottoman Empire as a freeborn Turk, for example. This made integration into wider society very easy once you lost your slave status. This is why there is no permanently indigent class of ex-slaves in Turkey, despite it being the centre of a thriving slave trade for centuries, and no accompanying grievance culture.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:39:33 PM No.17811317
>>17811132
>White slavers are some of the worst in history
Imagine actually believing this
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:41:25 PM No.17811318
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>>17811317
>imagine believing history books written by the slavers
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:47 PM No.17811320
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>>17811318
>didn't make enough money for whitey? I'm gonna chop your daughter's hands for that!
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:46:25 PM No.17811325
>>17811318
>>17811320
Still less bad than Arab insanity. You should see what Tibetans did to theirs.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:49:17 PM No.17811329
>>17811320
Cutting off hands for “theft” (things you didn’t do) has been a thing for THOUSANDS of years.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:05:49 PM No.17811347
>>17811318
>>17811320
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6whi9u/ive_read_that_columbus_instituted_a_tribute/
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:31:53 PM No.17811385
>>17811329
it's not theft you lying kike

>>17811347
it's the belgian congo you retard
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:13:49 PM No.17812152
>>17811385
It’s “theft” not theft you moron.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:17:01 PM No.17812160
>>17809599 (OP)
Because Arabs and Blacks would never pay reparations tax or apologize for slavery, but White people would, if you guilt tripped them hard enough, and they do. That's what it's really all about desu. Lol.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:21:04 PM No.17812168
>>17811320
This was anti colonial propaganda created by england by the way which was part of the English campaign to kick everyone out of Africa so they could have it all for themselves

There neo we was a policy of hand removal by the belgians
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:22:12 PM No.17812172
>>17811128
Why don’t you get AIDS? It’s public knowledge. Well known to anyone who has even a base-level interest in the slave trade in the Islamicate world. I’m not asking anyone to “make my argument for me” because no argument has to be made. It’s all well-known and verified, and I’m not arguing with anyone because nobody denies it unless they’re a schizophrenic Islamic chauvinist or historical revisionist pan-Arab ultranationalist. If anyone disagrees with me, the burden of proof is on them. I don’t know what low-trust, third world godforsaken culture you spawned from, but in the West, the people this website was made for, we engage in good-faith conversations in which one’s reliability and honesty can be inferred through discernment and logical deduction. What motive do I have to lie? I’m not attacking Arabs or Muslims for their history, I’m only explaining it.

If I tell you the sky is blue, will you ask for a source? Will you ask me to explain the mechanics of the human eye and range of color? The nature of the atmosphere and the physics of light? Will we argue over what should be counted as blue? Will you bring up that other cultures perhaps have no concept of blue distinct from another color? Will you argue that color is a mere illusion, or that because it is only a concept it does not truly exist? Will you counter by saying that because the sky changes color during sunset and is black during night that one cannot say the sky is necessarily blue?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:48:06 PM No.17812242
>>17812172
This nigga mad, y'all.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:02:05 PM No.17812414
Making sugar is literally the most evil thing you could force someone to do.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:04:27 PM No.17812421
Today I learned Napoleon was jewish
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:54:17 PM No.17812563
>>17812160
>Blacks would never pay reparations tax or apologize for slavery,
Several African states did and many historical sites and destinations ations in Weat Africa are maintained, and visited by many over the decades. You can visit Elmina castle right now for a full tour. Several actually give out citizenship to African descent people if you can prove it and many can even get given land if you have proven direct tie to an area.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:56:48 PM No.17812569
>>17812168
>This was anti colonial propaganda created by england
Actually Leopold was the one paying and running g massive propane machine in reality and actively slandered people.

>was part of the English campaign to kick everyone out of Africa so they could have it all for themselves
Many against the abuses weren't even English at all.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:40:28 AM No.17812650
>>17809599 (OP)
people don’t talk/care about arab slavery because it affected mainly (like 98% of the time) somalis/east africans

east and west africans are not even genetically similar

blacks are west african and were enslaved by moroccans, whites/spanish and themselves
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:42:53 AM No.17812653
>>17809811
Who is gonna buy your niggers if they're breeding their own?
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:47:14 AM No.17812663
>>17809651
>>17809717
>>17809964
You're full of shit.

Only slaves destined for harem were castrated.

There were both white eunuchs and black eunuchs in all the Islamic caliphate, whites were castrated too.

Black slaves intended for work in the fields or as soldiers were not castrated.

The Zanj Black slaves working in the Salt marshes of southern Iraq were not castrated. They took Arab women as concubines in the Zanj revolt

The Black soldiers of the Fatimids were not castrated. They had wives and families.

They were seperate from the black eunuch corps and white eunuch corps in the caliph's palace.

Morocco had Black slaves soldiers called Abeed Al-Bukhari who married and had families. They were seperate from eunuchs in the palace.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:02:07 AM No.17812681
>>17809599 (OP)
They weren't, they were all the same shit. The real lie is pretending white slavers were worse, and white imperialism was worse than any other imperialism.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:15:51 PM No.17813796
Bump
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:57:10 PM No.17813906
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>>17812242
Damn muthaphukkin strait I am nigga
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:00:16 PM No.17814179
>>17809669
rapes of a slave were pretty rare
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:01:18 PM No.17814183
>>17810683
>Majority of slaves werent castrated
source
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:02:38 PM No.17814185
>>17809697
>>17812663
if that's true why is there no black minority population living in the ME countries like in the US
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:02:39 PM No.17814186
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>>17809599 (OP)
I don't know what you are saying but people are aware that things like the Islamic slave trade were horrible. Academically, that has been the case for some time now.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:04:59 PM No.17814191
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>>17814183
Muslims tended to castrate their black slaves. During the Zanj revolt, a major slave revolt, former slaves began to castrate their masters and their children in front of them. During the period the revolt was even called the castration crisis. Pic is of a book discussing the revolt.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:06:00 PM No.17814194
>>17814191
so anon was making shit up
I will try to hide my shock
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:06:01 PM No.17814195
2 million Black Africans died being brought to the New World by White Europeans

4 to 6 million Black Africans were tortured to death or worked to death by White Europeans in the New World
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:08:29 PM No.17814201
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The various Caliphates had massive castration centers that would also act as slave markets. Pic related describes how these markets were usually manned by minorities by pointing to the example of the various Andalusian city states. It is important to note that they were used to ethnically clease people other than Black people such as Visigoths. This actually overall had a destablizing effect in the long run and basically left to huge skill gaps because these minority groups tended to have a lot of scientific, philosophical and technical knowledge. It also lead to the problem of people trying to justify new people to enslave which destabilized various places.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:09:52 PM No.17814205
>>17814195
8 to 10 million Black African babies used as alligator baits
10 to 15 million Black Africans (including men) were raped by white Europeans
20 to 30 million were forced to fight in Mandingo fights

White supremacist school system will ever tell you this
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:14:27 PM No.17814215
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It is worth noting that slavery in the Islamic world did not end till way later than the western world. It is still done illegally today with semi-legality in countries like Mauritiania. Saudi Arabia closed it's last slave market in 1965 while anti-arab decolonial revolution in Zanizabar ending Arabic slavery of Blacks and the creation of an autonomous state. In the end, the Black natives not just overthrew but began to genocide their former rulers. Pic related.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:20:22 PM No.17814230
>>17814185
Because we married each other and now we’re indistinguishable. My dad’s dad was a quarter black and his grandfather was a slave in Egypt. All SWANA people are mixed race to some degree. That’s why we don’t have your crazy racial drama and segregation bullshit.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:20:37 PM No.17814232
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There were previous anti-Arab decolonial movements. Sudan to this day sees Arab's opporessing people identified as native. However, in the past natives sought to remove both Arab and English colonalists. An example of this is the Mahdist revolution. A Sudanse, Muhammad Ahmad ibn Abd Allah, claimed to be the Mahdi and to reveal a new type of Islam and called to purify Sudan of Arabic and English colonial governments.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:22:46 PM No.17814238
>>17814230
I doubt it. What's the sub-saharan admixture in modern day Arabs? Must be minuscule
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:26:30 PM No.17814249
>>17814238
About 10% to 20% typically. Like the inverse of African-Americans being 10% to 20% White on average. Depending on the individual community it can go up to 70%.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:27:10 PM No.17814251
>>17814249
source
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:27:44 PM No.17814255
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A lot of historically socialist aligned African governments were associated with removing Arab influence and colonialism as well. This actually terrifed Europeans because it put their funding of said governments in the cross hairs historically. The 1969 Somali Civil War is an example calling for a return to Somali identity rather an simply adopting Arabic idenitty although olive branches were extended to Arabic culture. Some saw a complete split as well. An example includes the Chadian Civil War which saw people identified as Chadian nationalist identifying with Christianity to remove Arabic colonialism
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:58:48 PM No.17814332
>The Arabs weren’t worse! The only big difference is that they castrated them! So what!

Liberals say this with such zeal it’s almost like they’re threatened by not being able to hate white people as much anymore, since Muslims(Arab) are always far, far, far fucking worse.

I don’t think they realize why there’s such a lack of black presence in parts of the Middle East, or just how damaging psychologically it is to be castrated. That is an attack on you, and you and your peoples future.

At least white people allowed blacks to have a future. Good lord.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:59:49 PM No.17814340
>>17814205
>8 to 10 million Black African babies used as alligator baits
Lol…
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:05:54 PM No.17814359
>>17814332
Having your dick and balls violently chopped off with a red hot hatchet is less bad than being buck broken chud.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:34:11 PM No.17814470
>>17814185
There is retard. Southern Iraq has the largest Black African community in the Middle East.

Palestine and Morocco also have Black minorities.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:35:03 PM No.17814473
>>17814470
what % of their pop is black?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:41:15 PM No.17814493
>>17809599 (OP)
They weren't. They raped and abused slaves all the time. Some would even kill slaves in front of other slaves as an example and to discourage rebellion.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:43:38 PM No.17814501
>>17809903
Europeans used to burn cats because of superstition and drove several animals to extinction or close to it during the age of colonialism and expansion.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:46:45 PM No.17814515
>>17814473
Middle Easterners don’t reckon race the same way you do in America. We don’t have “one drop rule” like you. If your dad was Arab/Persian/Turkish/Whatever then you are that. End of story. Race and Ethnicity aren’t mutually exclusive here. Hence why Jews and Arabs for example come in all colors and tones and features.

When we say “Black” we mean “Looks South Sudanese or some shit”. When you say “Black” you mean anyone and everyone whose ancestors even held hands with a Black person.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:08:35 PM No.17814577
>>17814501
And Muslims love cats but throw dogs off the roof. Your point?
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:11:32 PM No.17814588
>>17814515
Yep. It’s hilarious really. I see black actors acting as one family in American movies all the time and they look nothing alike. It is really funny. There’s many different kinds of black and I find it hilarious how Americans think all black is the same sort of black. “Ethiopians are totally just like South Africans!”. Occasionally you’ll have an Indian lady and a Mexican lady acting as sisters, too. Like that Scream sequels. It’s so obvious they aren’t related. “But they both have caramel skin!”.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:15:34 PM No.17814598
>>17814515
I assume you still have 23andme tests you still have human genetics from which ancestry can be tested.
I mean your post is just a word salad to deflect from the fact you've been making shit up and painted yourself into a corner
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:17:45 PM No.17814601
Notice how non-Arab Muslims are nowhere near as radical or zealous or insane as the actual Arab Muslims.

Notice how Arab Muslims did barely anything of note (even their intellectuals eventually ended up hating other Arabs, or just Arab culture) until they conquered Persia and took their art and language.

It’s almost like genetics matters!
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:32:05 PM No.17814630
>>17814601
Are you smoking crack? Non-Arabs are WAY more religious and puritanical than we are. We’re honestly the most degenerate Muslims aside from maybe the Albanians.

Because we’re Arab, our identity is rarely if ever question as Muslims. All the others are insecure about their Muslim status so they try to out-Muslim us on the daily.

Meanwhile most of us are too busy drinking, smoking, fighting, scamming, and whoring on the low to care.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:40:52 PM No.17814650
>>17814473
Blacks in Iraq are 2 million (5%).
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:44:53 PM No.17814656
Alice Mills
Alice Mills
md5: b5c4351405f84894a72e4e5b636873f8🔍
>>17814332
Whites in the Americas systemically castrated black slaves as punishment for rebellions or running away.

There is a case in Barbados where a woman was paid to castrate black slaves. In 1693 the Barbados council paid a woman called Alice Mills ten guineas "for castrating forty two Negroes according to sentence of the Commissioners for trial of rebellious Negroes" after black slaves conspired to revolt and they were found out.
>Minutes of the Council of Barbadoes, Jan. 24, 1693, Sainsbury, ed., Cal. State Papers, 1693-96, 5. in Winthrop D Jordan's "White Over Black: American Attitudes toward the Negro, 1550-1812"

>Jan. 24. 31. Minutes of Council of Barbados. Order for sundry payments to officers, and for payment of ten guineas to Alice Mills for castrating forty two negroes according to sentence of the Commissioners for trial of rebellious negroes. [Col. Entry B13, Vol. XII., pp. 396-398.]

http://isj.org.uk/hidden-communities/

http://jeromehandler.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Revolts-82.pdf

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/newsinger/2006/xx/maroons.html

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/80374/1/Kennedy_Stefanie_D_201511_PhD_thesis.pdf

https://urresearch.rochester.edu/fileDownloadForInstitutionalItem.action?itemId=8366&itemFileId=17652

https://dokumen.pub/between-fitness-and-death-disability-and-slavery-in-the-caribbean-ebooknbsped-9780252052071.html

In the aftermath of a slave conspiracy in 1692, the Barbados Assembly paid one Alice Mills ten guineas for the castration of forty-three rebels.102 This suggests that there were people—in this case a white woman—who were skilled in castrating men without killing them. Such a technology of violence testifies to disability’s function as a penal tool in English Caribbean slave societies. In Jamaica, too, unfree men were castrated following slave uprisings
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:46:05 PM No.17814659
bottom-bay-barbados
bottom-bay-barbados
md5: e9580813ccb803efc681912f1871b304🔍
>>17814656


https://archive.is/8pUr1

Alice Mills Barbados
``In 1693 the council of Barbados, paid one Alice Mills, ten Guineas for castrating 42 rebellious African slaves . The ghoulish rationality of this exercise in pre-decimal currency, was 2 shillings, sixpence per testicle''

Shilling about 5 pennies was a days wages.

From ``if the Irish ran the world''

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Ran-World-Montserrat-1630-1730/dp/0853239622


Europeans castrated slaves you retard.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/11383699/#q11383699

https://dokumen.pub/between-fitness-and-death-disability-and-slavery-in-the-caribbean-ebooknbsped-9780252052071.html

In the aftermath of a slave conspiracy in 1692, the Barbados Assembly paid one Alice Mills ten guineas for the castration of forty-three rebels.102 This suggests that there were people—in this case a white woman—who were skilled in castrating men without killing them. Such a technology of violence testifies to disability’s function as a penal tool in English Caribbean slave societies. In Jamaica, too, unfree men were castrated following slave uprisings
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:20:44 PM No.17814724
>>17814656
>>17814659
And yet the black population still has a thriving presence in the Americas.

This is like claiming that the British massacred India when the reality is that they had an enormous population surge once western infrastructure reached them.
Replies: >>17814736
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:24:10 PM No.17814736
>>17814724
>responding earnestly to the chinkspammer
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:27:09 PM No.17814743
>>17811318
>White people were the first to *reads Reddit* have sex with slaves
Don’t read what Muslim slavers did to little boys.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:52:35 PM No.17814811
>>17814650
nope
>According to the CIA World Factbook, citing a 1987 Iraqi government estimate, the population of Iraq is formed of 75-80% Arabs (including Marsh Arabs) followed by 15-20% Kurds and other minorities form 5% of the country's population, including the Turkmen, Kaka'i, Bedouins, Roma, Assyrians, Circassians, Mandaeans, and Persians.[29]
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:41:59 PM No.17814919
>>17814811
You realize Middle Eastern cultures don’t distinguish race apart from ethnicity, right?

An Arab with Black skin and 4C hair is as Arab as a White one with blonde hair and blue eyes.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:44:37 PM No.17814927
>>17814919
If they don't distinguish race how did you know there are 2 million blacks in Iraq
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:00:07 PM No.17814946
>>17814811
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/black-iraqis-have-been-invisible-for-a-long-time-their-vibrant-culture-and-struggle-must-be-recognized/

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/mena/black-iraqis-say-george-floyd-s-death-sheds-light-on-their-own-centuries-long-plight-1.1035137

Also look up Haratin in Morocco.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:09:30 PM No.17814973
>>17814927
I didn’t say that, I’m not the other dude.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:10:42 PM No.17814975
The Black populations in Iraq, Palestine, Morocco exist as seperate entities to Arabs, they are their own communities.

Egypt absorbed the entire Black slave population into the mainstream population so there is no seperate Black population.
Replies: >>17815395
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:42:31 AM No.17815395
5ed8af8a-63c2-4511-8f14-1672d2f3d125-729337918
5ed8af8a-63c2-4511-8f14-1672d2f3d125-729337918
md5: 507dc0d79f30420d8989ec80bf2efa7a🔍
>>17814975
It is important to note that in many cases it was the case that Black identity was created as basiically not Arab. This is the case of Arabic North African for example, and led to huge cycles of enslaving people and destabilizing societies.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:47:35 AM No.17815405
White slave owners were “nicer” not because of charity, most slaves were picking cotton and a slave can’t pick max cotton if you break their legs or hands.

You need slaves to be at peak physical or near peak shape.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:44:42 AM No.17815468
>>17814601
Funny because this is the complete inversion of reality

Arabs are the second least religious people of the Muslim world except balkanites, it was an even stronger case in the 20th century

Saddam painted the Iran-Iraq war as defending the secular socialist ba'ath against batshit crazy Iranians waging Jihad

Nasser laughed at the muslim brotherhood asking to enforce hijab on women in egypt

Ba'ath Syria did several purges against Islamists with full support of the population at the time

Despite what Kikes claim the 20th century Arab Zionist wars were anti-colonial socialist ones and nothing to do with religion, the jihadi stuff came after the fall of Baath and the rise of the ayatollahs
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:46:44 AM No.17815471
Blacks slaves in the Arab world were more like feudal serfs and they held positions of the power sometimes and even became country leaders (see mamluk slave soldiers becoming rulers), the first Muslim was a black ethiopian man

Pigskins treated its slaves as literal farming tools

Another thread of euroach projection
Replies: >>17815977
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:55:00 AM No.17815480
>>17814249
There are many such as the Gnawa of Morocco, the Haratin of the Sahel, Al-Akhdām of Yemen, and the Siddi of India but a lot have gotten assimilated. After the Arab Transaharan slave trade most around the middle east went from 0% SubSaharan to around 5% - 10%
feel free to go down a wikipedia rabbit hole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Arabs
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:00:34 AM No.17815484
489177_1_En_5_Fig2_HTML
489177_1_En_5_Fig2_HTML
md5: 51e4f0a119d1f52200d82700d20ad71b🔍
>>17809599 (OP)
This view depends on whether or not you solely count North American whites. If we look at the numbers of slaves traded to the New World, it's generally about 5 million each to both the Caribbean and to Latin America around 500,000 to North America, yet the Black population in the United States dwarfs the population of "Black" Brazilians and that of Afro-Caribbean with both population totaling around 20 million each compared to 44 million African Americans.

Why is this? A combination of racial dynamics, demographics, and identity politics.

Due to the ban on importation of Black slaves in North America, and the distance and cost of sailing from Africa, a slaves life was comparatively valuable, so their relative safety and reproduction was essential for the economy of the South. African Americans populations exploded along with the rest of the USA's. This along with laws against miscegenation, the one drop rule, makes African Americans a visible minority to this day.

While is other parts of a slaves live was practically worthless due to the cost of sailing from Africa being relatively cheap, so it was easier to work a slave to death and have them replaced by fresh arrivals. This along with the intensity of sugar cane harvesting, tropical diseases, made life hell for slaves Caribbean and Brazil. This depressed their birthrates and when combined with less laws against mixing, and European immigration, wiped out a lot of African ancestry across the region compared to the population size.

Black is much wider label in North America, than in South America, where they almost have a reverse one drop rule. People that would hesitate to call themselves Black in the USA due to colorism/racism associated with Black features could get labeled Black instantly in the US, such as Dominicans, Pardo Brazilians, and Upper class mulatto Haitians.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:30:44 AM No.17815935
>>17815484
It's because they all died on sugar plantations or they would not need to keep importing as many.
Imagine thinking identity politics was the reason for this discrepancy in 1920 lmao.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:48:11 AM No.17815964
Because White people sort of understood that slavery is a necessary evil but that doesn't mean you should be unnecessarily cruel. We still have slavery today and the people currently enslaved aren't being treated the best..
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:02:07 AM No.17815977
file
file
md5: 15fb7c00e29c139e0a57de72253fc0ca🔍
>>17815471
They had quite favorable view of their masters for being treated supposedly treated as farming tools
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:36:17 PM No.17816645
>>17815468
>Arabs are the second least religious people of the Muslim world
Lol
Lmao even
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:02:30 PM No.17816706
23554
23554
md5: c079055f117c165e82f6bfcb34a98f57🔍
because Slavery has always been a "African" institution.

Whites were enslaved prior hence the term hence the term "slave" being associated with whites becuase they always had black masters which was the natural dynamic


whites were simply given jannie privileges to help reframe the narrative coinciding with the american project, the great golem, to set context for the new age
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:41:45 PM No.17817295
>>17809599 (OP)
nothing was more barbaric and savage than white christian slavers
chuds can cope and try to rewrite history but no one will take them seriously
Pakistani Bro
7/5/2025, 10:57:46 PM No.17817336
>>17816645
But he said the truth

Especially in the 20th century Arabs were fucking commie atheist degenerates, once again the indo-iranic peoples had to lead them to the right path
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:25:08 AM No.17817933
>>17817336
Lol
Lmao even
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:00:50 AM No.17818100
>>17810347
So they wuz kangs after all?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:05:03 AM No.17818107
>>17809697
>Samson Rowlie (died after 1588) was Chief Eunuch and Treasurer of Algiers during Ottoman rule. Born in Norfolk, England, the son of a Bristol merchant, Francis Rowlie, he was captured aboard of the Swallow and castrated by the Ottomans in 1577
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:36:50 AM No.17818445
>>17809964
> Arabs (and Persians) saw the blacks as inherently inferior and feared what the future of their regions would resemble if they were ever emancipated or revolted and began to reproduce in high number.
honestly, completely fair
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:21:10 AM No.17818546
slave
slave
md5: 916469a1fc77a3a103abddf708932d60🔍
>>17809599 (OP)
It's because of Western and American defaultism. Academia and popular culture focus on minute aspects of Western history and even uneducated bumfuck from rural third world shithole heard of stuff like Southern slavery. Meanwhile history of the rest of the world is glossed over, and other cultures make damn sure the shameful parts of their history aren't talked about.

>>17809626
That's BS. Slavery in the Abbasid Caliphate was on industrial scale at least comparable to the American south. The Zanj rebellion was so successful because of sheer amounts of Black slaves employed at Arab-owned plantations.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:04:01 PM No.17819306
>noooo you can’t just compare white people to way worse people that means our white hating muslim supporting agenda is disingenuous and flawed!
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:13:41 PM No.17819325
>>17809599 (OP)
Why do people believe the only slave to ever exist was an african slave? Slavery all over Asia existed for thousands of years and they enslaved Asians. In Korea alone, Koreans owned Koreans legally until 1894.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:15:01 PM No.17820329
>>17809626
Arabs don't have such vocal haters towards their slavery because all their slaves face the whip and castration. Their slaves simply do not have offspring. And the Arabs are very picky with their modern day slaves by importing the poorest people so not to enrage any more developed country.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:39:14 AM No.17820570
>>17820329
You've been repeating the same debunked shit over and over again.

There are 2 million Blacks in southern Iraq.

Black slave soldiers and field slaves were not castrated.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:43:34 AM No.17820586
ADMIXTURE_analysis_of_Horn_of_Africa_populations_in_a_broad_context
>>17815935
>It's because they all died on sugar plantations or they would not need to keep importing as many.
retard, I directly mentioned that
>Imagine thinking identity politics was the reason for this discrepancy in 1920 lmao.
I was running out of space to type. That really isn't a conclusion, it's just an acknowledgement, that the black label in north america covers everyone from recent West African immigrants to African Americans to mulattoes to quadroons, while mulattoes and mixed people elsewhere would have phased out of the identity long ago.
>>17820329
See pic related
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:05:22 AM No.17820750
>>17809651
Slavery in Islamic societies was extremely different to Western slavery. The chief black eunuch was literally at times one of the most powerful political figures in the Ottoman society. Military slaves like janissaries and mamluks were privileged, even ruling classes in society. Such things would have been unheard of in the west.

That's not to say slaves universally had good lives in Islamic societies, obviously most didn't. But the most crucial difference is that the after effects of Islamic slavery aren't really effecting people today in the same way that Western Transatlantic slavery does. Specifically how the decedents of slaves are still a racialised underclass over 150 years later, went through decades of segregation etc. in the most powerful country on earth. Bringing up Islamic slavery in this context is basically just a whataboutist argument,
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:06:46 AM No.17820881
>>17809599 (OP)
Are you implying the kind of people who owned slaves were nice by any metric?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:27:26 AM No.17820920
>>17820750
Anglo-Americans sought to recreate England, so they brought British women along with them to the colonies unlike the Spanish and Portuguese who merely needed to extract raw resources and send them back to Spain, and otherwise used foreign women for pleasure and companionship. This trend in Anglo-America drove the creation of a permanent racial underclass meant to fill labor gaps and support a British aristocracy.

In the Muslim world, things were similar to the Spanish and Portuguese model. Slaves were expected to be absorbed into the population regularly.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:54:49 AM No.17820963
>>17810347
i don't understand how this argument makes whites look good.
i'm beginning to think whites are literally addicted to enriching jews and purchasing blacks. american sports is basically that entire phenomenon rebranded.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:55:49 AM No.17820968
>>17810420
kikefederacy isn't a meme
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:57:39 AM No.17820973
>>17820881
there are factions of the american right that genuinely think it was/is their moral responsibility to purchase, own, convert, and civilize blacks in some sort of paternal manner. and they think that there was a loving father/son relationship between white plantation owners in the south and their black slaves before lincoln ruined it
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:01:52 AM No.17820983
>>17820881
In a slave society anybody could own slaves, so yeah why not? If you were a free born Roman you could buy somebody to clean your house and treat them like we would treat an employee, thats not evil.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:27:47 AM No.17821042
>>17820586
>niger-congo found in the shittiest parts of arabia,- plus the gayest peninsula of the mediterranean.
greecebania is bbc-pilled country confirmed, whereas arabians banished their Freeman Djangoes to the outback.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:30:25 PM No.17821973
British abolished slavery. Arabs continued doing it for over a thousand fucking years.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:20:37 PM No.17822353
>>17821973
Shut up!