Thread 17810378 - /his/ [Archived: 641 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:34:02 AM No.17810378
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Has there ever been another example of a ruler reverting their nation back to paganism once it's already been Christianised?
Imagine if he didn't die... imagine if rome retvred to paganism
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Chud Anon
7/3/2025, 3:35:27 AM No.17810379
>>17810378 (OP)
>Has there ever been another example of a ruler reverting their nation back to paganism once it's already been Christianised

Any region where early Christianity took root and then Catholicism sunk its claws into (because Catholics are pagans, but gayer)
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:37:07 AM No.17810383
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>>17810379
Keep your weirdo inter christian arguments out of my thread plz & thanQ
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:38:03 AM No.17810384
pre-Christian white people
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if rome retvred to paganism
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:39:41 AM No.17810386
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mfw I remember than /his/ is full of schzio christians these days and you cant discuss anything else...

my bad, I forgot why I stopped coming here
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:45:00 AM No.17810400
>>17810378 (OP)
even if he lived it was very unlikely he could successfully revert christian creep, not helped by his new ideas for paganism weren't popular with other pagans
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:46:24 AM No.17810403
>>17810400
>his new ideas for paganism weren't popular with other pagans
really? whys that?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:53:37 AM No.17810807
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>>17810400
>his new ideas for paganism weren't popular with other pagans
That's a meme, deboonked in this book. His brand of Neoplatonic paganism was fairly standard for its time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:21:12 AM No.17810850
>>17810403
>Unified pagan church (IE coping the christian church system)
>Obsession with pagan pratices that felt outdated and no longer culturally accepted even by most pagans (like mass blood sacrifices)
>All pagan cults were aspects of his solar neoplatonic monotheistic personal faith

>>17810807
Standard for the limited numbers of academics and philosophers, but actually remote for the creed of the everyday pagan commoner
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:56:49 AM No.17811082
>>17810400
That's not really correct, he had a late neoplatonist understanding of the religion, which identified Helios as a manfestation of the supreme God. Neoplantonism was very popular among intellectual circles and the cult of Helios had already been heavily promoted already. He wasn't some distant academic, though, he was very keen on the public festivals which were still popular among pagans.

Also the idea that he tried to invent a new unified neo-pagan church is misleading, what he did was restore the official imperial cult and patronised the priesthood, a system which had existed since the republic. His big difference with previous pagan emperors was his promotion of charity, which was to compete with Christian care for the poor.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:58:58 AM No.17811087
>>17810378 (OP)
Plenty of examples during the later Christianisation of Europe, but none of them stuck. For example, some Anglo-Saxon king converted but theb reverted to paganism.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:00:01 PM No.17811091
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>Has there ever been another example of a ruler reverting their nation back to paganism once it's already been Christianised?
>Imagine if he didn't die... imagine if rome retvred to pag-ACK
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:03:52 PM No.17811099
>>17811087
what was his name? one of pendas homies?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:07:06 PM No.17811105
>>17810400
>by his new ideas for paganism weren't popular with other pagans
He didn't have much new ideas. Even how he critiqued Christianity was steeped in the same ideas which existed in the past relating to cultural critique alongside the newer ones emerging from Church struggles. Julian as a philosopher was a bog standard Neo-Platonist and how he treated official cults was in a normal way. The only thing he did which was seen as strange was his excessive desire for animal sacrifices, which had already been on the decline before Christianity and he was disappointed when he saw active local cults no longer practice it.
>>17810850
>Unified pagan church (IE coping the christian church system)
While he very clearly admired it for the administrative and organisational power it had as he writes to a friend, he never actually acted to implement anything like it.
>(like mass blood sacrifices)
This is a Christian trope and doesn't actually relate to any pagan practice even beforehand.
>All pagan cults were aspects of his solar neoplatonic monotheistic personal faith
This isn't really that strange. Platonic philosophers have always had this bend towards divinity. While his personal intellectual thoughts of religion did follow this he didn't really treat pagan cults any differently because of it. He was a major patron and defender of popular ritual and festivals .
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:12:43 PM No.17811114
>>17811099
Raedwald of East Anglia, he was a contemporary of Penda.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:45:35 PM No.17811161
>>17811114
>Rรฆdwald's pagan queen admonished him for acting in a manner dishonourable for a king by betraying his trust for the sake of money and wanting to sell his imperiled friend in exchange for riches
The reality of morality