We still don't know how Bronze Age Civilizations got the tin they needed to make bronze.

Cornwall via Phoenician traders

>>17810656
You know that's not true and it doesn't make any sense but it's safer and more comforting than acknowledging the potential real answers.

>>17810658
What the fuck are you trying to say you schizo?

>>17810658
Tell us the real source of bronze age tin and why it can't have been Cornwall in the next 2 replies or admit to being severely mentally ill.

On this TV show I just watched they listed like 5 places it came from but they said the majority came from Afghanistan

>>17810728
There's no way people could've gotten all the way up there by then. They had to have help from aliens.

It isn't really a mystery, they got it where we know tin is.
I mean it's occams razor, the simplest explanation is the correct one.

>>17810809
Afghanistan doesn't tin

>>17810652 (OP)
South america

>>17810652 (OP)
If by “how” you mean the process of physical acquisition through the ground, then the answer is yes, it’s this novel profession commonly referred to as ‘mining’. The working of the tin to alloy with copper was practiced by people who had a profession known as ‘smithing’. I can use much smaller words if this was too confusing for you.
If by “how” you mean distribution, then you’ll want to learn about the Hittite Empire, an indo-european group that occupied Anatolia (modern day Turkey). The Hittites were the leading producers of bronze since their territory had ready access to both tin and copper and their militarism created constant demand for war technologies that utilized bronze.
>>17810656
This is partially true. The Phoenicians were responsible for the mass distribution of bronze across the Mediterranean but only because they had contact with Hittites who could supply them bronze to begin with.

>>17810658
Ah yes, the tin came from the heccin ALIENS who dropped a magical meteor out of the sky comprised of pure tin. Through similar methods Wakandans created the most technologically advanced nation on earth mysteriously located in the heart of Africa. In any case, we have to ignore all historical and archeological evidence of human history that points out the fact ancient humans were quite advanced and just chalk it up to green men in flying saucers because admitting that we got some things wrong would be embarrassing. Why adjust our models when the evidence runs contrary to it when we can throw out the evidence instead?

How did tin from the British Isles end up in Anatolia?

>>17811772
By people trading for it and it changing hands dozens of times across vast distances. Amazing huh?

>>17811773
lmao, you really think it's that simple or even makes sense?

>>17811775
Yes. Why does it not make sense?

>>17811775
Yes, it really is that simple and it really does make sense. People buy stuff in one place and sell it for a higher price in another, this process repeats itself a few times until something has moved halfway across the world.

>>17811794
The time of the Romans and the Bronze ages were 2 different times.

>>17811790
The British Isles were basically uninhabited during the Bronze Age and there wasn't a currency, who were they trading with and with what?

>>17810652 (OP)
They traded with the dwarves(extinct).

>>17810656
Phoenicia wasn't even an ethnicity that early on, it was a geographical term.

>>17812576
>The British Isles were basically uninhabited during the Bronze Age

So why was it a superpower in the stone age? lmfao that doesn't make a lick of sense

>>17812576
>The British Isles were basically uninhabited during the Bronze Age
You really should read Gildas and Bede before you start lying like this. If you don't know, don't pretend to know.

>>17810658
>the potential real answers
uh huh

My crack theory is south east asia and africa, the indian ocean trade goes back to prehistory and these regions are rich in tin you gather tin very easily without industrial mining.

>>17812643
>white British people who colonized the entire world couldn't possibly figure out the boat back then
>white British people who started the industrial revolution couldn't possibly figure out mining back then

>no, it was the Abbo and the jeet who ushered in ancient global tradenetworks

*sigh*

>>17812673
Britain has been an island since the Mesolithic

There are many sources of tin, but mining tin becomes more difficult over time, especially in areas of low abundance. It became cheaper to transport the tin from areas of high abundance.

Traders along the Mediterranean would start paying more for tin (in barter for pelts, amber, salt et cetera..) A trader along the Rhône would know tin can be obtained in Massif Central and buy from villages that occasionally mine it, motivating them to mine more. However after decades with the easy to access tin extracted the villagers would not bother until prices rose again.

Soon traders in Brittany noted the price of tin was higher to the south, enough to begin routinely moving it to the mouth of the Garonne river where it could be taken east to the Mediterranean. In turn traders in Cornwall heard prices were higher across the channel. Kind of like pass the parcel, tin made the 2000 mile way to the fertile crescent through multiple hands.

A tin miner in Cornwall need not know where Egypt is or even its use in bronze. No one needed to travel the whole route, Greek explorer Pytheas of Massilia (Marseilles, near the Rhône) followed the source of tin to Cornwall, but this was apparently a rarity as he was as far as I know the only written source until the Romans linked it all under one polity and it became trivial.

>>17810812
Why give them bronze instead of steel?

>>17812673
Do the British need to be involved with every step in the chain for tin to the middle east?

I'm picking the alien hypothesis because the thought of a flying saucer dumping tons of tin ingots in population centers and then fucking off sounds funny.

>>17813175
Okay fine the Scottish, Irish and Welsch helped the british too. Is that enough of a compromise?

>>17813184
pretty sure it would be just the cornish, either way it's not high iq to mine bronze it's like being surprised sugar comes south east asia

>>17812576
>there wasn't a currency
oh no, I can't trade ingots of tin for ingots of silver because I haven't unlocked Coinage yet...

>>17810812
>there is no way
why exactly

>>17810652 (OP)
From da ground

>>17812576
>The British Isles were basically uninhabited during the Bronze Age
the absolůte state of this board

>>17813553
it's the rebirth of Sicilian schizo

>>17810658
>>17811574
It's likely from Cornwall https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/from-lands-end-to-the-levant-did-britains-tin-sources-transform-the-bronze-age-in-europe-and-the-mediterranean/2330F3B6498B210DA61B89026A1F38EA

Which makes sense, as Cornish tin is far more abundant and easily accessible than the Taurus Mountains of Afghanistan, where they don't have the rainfall to make alluvial tin mining very productive

>>17810652 (OP)
Globalism actually isnt a new phenomenon, we can find ores originating from the great lakes area of america showing up in anatolia and ancient greece

>>17813611
Yep. The bronze age collapse was actually a collapse of global trade network at the time.

>>17813611
>>17813659
There so much they don't want us to know about.

>>17812137
Trade still worked largely the same, ships and caravans brought goods from one place to another.

>>17813175
don't you know? the sea-peoples were actually british, along with the hittites, egyptians, minoans etc. (((they)))((((the irish)))) don't want you to know this

>>17810652 (OP)
red a book, n*g*er, and never return, fuck off to whatever down syndrome discord you came from

>>17813553
they couldn't reach britain or sardinia with the naval technology at the time

>>17814129
What books, the one full of lies

>>17814136
I hate /his/ because every thread gets derailed by retard larps like this one.