I wish to have some honest opinions about this cultural movements and it's real influence in the XX Century. By searching by myself on the web i mostly find conspiracy schizos ideas about the frankfurtians secretly taking over the culture of the West to promote Cultural Marxism, Femminism, Globalism and other alt-right scarewords

>>17810834 (OP)
They're right

>>17810834 (OP)
still weird how almost all of them were jews

>>17810898
>It's weird how an area historically populated by Ashkenazi Jews is full of Jews
Jews existing is not a conspiracy theory anon

>>17810834 (OP)
>Cultural Marxism
"Cultural" Marxism is not a real thing and was invented by McCarthy-era schizos. The Frankfurt school was actually somwhat critical of Marxism

>>17810902
Dumbass.

How many British philosophies or ideologies had founders entirely only Irish people involved in every facet of the foundation of the movement? How many Hungarian created and led and run movements in Austria? Japanese created ideologies and movements in Brasil?

Retarded nigga, stupid nigger.

>>17810917
Very clever trick anon, unfortunately for you I'm not falling for it. Most of those Jews identified as German. the Frankfurt School was founded and ran by Germans. The school itself is named after the city for Christs sake

>>17810834 (OP)
They helped capitalism.
Ultimately, like all commie plots planned out by a cadre of singular intellectuals, the plan backfired once those intial charismatic big brains died out or retired (just like in the USSR after Lenin).

The intent was to deal out black pills to make proles uncomfortable/unhappy and thus seek revolution.

But the retards who came after them or who were inspired by them/the mission couldn't hold a candle to the founders, and didn't realize their plan was an opportunistic/situational move that made sense at the time, and just kept dumping blackpills on the masses.

And now, you still have idiot commies following their lead, glorifying ugliness and hopelessness and helplessness, when they should have pivoted to a more active optimistic and capable action oriented ethos. But they didn't.

>picrel?
prime example. "boo hoo hoo its all hopeless. isn't it beautiful and noble how hopeless it all is"
GOOD.

>>17810834 (OP)
It was a school of "Critical Theory" which isn't going to make sense to someone who only knows the laydefinition of that term and is often associated with cancer like "race theory" but basically they shat on everything in an attempt to find a common truth and this obviously pissed off midwits who had hills to die on. They weren't just critical of capitalism, they were critical of communism too.

>>17810834 (OP)
School of frankfort influenced commies yes, but it also influenced nazis. It influenced many flags of red.

>>17810834 (OP)
>Cultural Marxism
not even once

>>17810950
part 2

>>17810950
>Introduction
>Many young socialists deny that Cultural Marxism even exists, failing to see that they have been brainwashed
That's all I needed to read to know this schizograph is complete garbage and only exists to reaffirm your own beliefs.

>>17810951
>Marxism is when you have White Jim Crow

>>17810954
Seething neo-commie detected

>>17810962
Don't associate my lord Lucifer with Jews and communism

All critical theory is is the reapplication of Marxism intellectually using the gaping hole in US philosophy as an entrance point, namely, the rapid importation of third world labor to work in the city. This massive ethnic replacement that the US undertook over hundred of years left many illegal immigrants in the dust as that is the nature of mass illegal unchecked immigration to lower wages.

The communists don't criticize the system of the US that exploits it's people in order to lower wages. Instead the communists criticize the US for not uplifting every 80 IQ dysgenic that crawls into the US.

While this may not sound that important of a check on western philosophy keep in mind that when critical theory was developed a large percentage of immigrants in the major cities of the US, including jews and italians and irish were actually illegal aliens that could legally be denaturalized and deported.

I don't think it's a coincidence that just a decade or two later the Jews passed blanket amnesty for everyone in the US including the tens of millions of Hispanics in California and the illegal Jews and italians in the east

>>17810923
weak.

Certainly, Frankfurt School theorists were cognizant of their mission to produce "counter-propaganda" to dissuade Western audiences from embracing a nativist, racialist worldview:
"It seems obvious, that the modification of the potentially fascist
structure cannot be achieved by psychological means alone. The task is
comparable to that of eliminating neurosis, or delinquency, or nationalism
from the world. These are products of the total organization of society and
are to be changed only as that society is changed [...] This cannot be achieved by the manipulation of people, however well grounded in modern psychology the devices of manipulation might be.… It is here that psychology may play its most important role. Techniques for overcoming resistance, developed mainly in the field of individual psychotherapy, can be improved and adapted for use with groups and even for use on a mass scale." (Theodor Adorno)

The question is, not whether they were interested in disseminating propaganda to the world, but whether influential organizations utilized their ideas to actually disseminate this propaganda in a successful manner. Investigations should be aimed at discovering which institutions were influenced by Frankfurt School theorists, because the Frankfurters themselves were certainly hoping to influence society on a mass scale.

>>17813070
>because the Frankfurters themselves were certainly hoping to influence society on a mass scale.
They really weren't anon. They were purely an academic institution. They were a school of Critical Theory, this isn't even going to make sense to the average person, and you're proof of this because you don't even know what Critical Theory means or entails. They shat on everything, Capitalism, Communism, and yes, racialism as an established norm for the time, because the point is to find a common truth by critical analysis over ideology. And this naturally lead to them pissing off retards who had hills to die on. They weren't out to "convince" you of Critical Theory, that's not even how critical theory works.

>>17810834 (OP)
Funded by the CIA as controlled-op to subvert socialist movements via identity politics. And a justification of implementing the post 64' corporatist regime fostering class collaboration instead of class struggle.

Fun fact, they acutally were really by contemporary stands conservative about art and culture and opposed the markets and some like Thedore Adorno rejected Jazz for reasons conencted to their reading and some argued aganist things like biographies like Walter Benjamin. Some like Erich Fromm were focused on personal relationships and how we had to be accountable for ourselves.

>>17813108
>CIA
>1923
Retard

>>17813120
post ww2 they were provably funded by the US government.

>>17813080
I didn't claim that they were out to 'convince' people of Critical Theory. I stated that Frankfurt School theorists (like Adorno) had a vested interest in rooting out civilizational notions he saw as being unhealthy to civilization, like fascism. I'm not even implying that such a notion is inherent in the principles of Critical Theory itself, only that it was a desire of the Frankfurt School theorists. For example, in "The Religious Medium," Adorno gives advice on the production of counter-propaganda against fascists:
"Nothing irks the neo-pagan barbarians more than the idea that their ancestors might have been apes. Counterpropaganda, in analyzing the implicit philosophy of the fascists, should carefully point out their twisted relationship to nature."

To the extent that rooting out fascism was one of their goals, works like The Authoritarian Personality must be seen in the light of this project. Statements like "if [fascist] indoctrination were dispensed with, or if propaganda having an opposite direction were substituted for it, then the results from this [high F-scoring] group would fall into line with all the others" should be viewed in light of their desire to ameliorate what they saw as societal pathologies. See Horkheimer's statement: "Our aim is not merely to describe prejudice but to explain it in order to help in its eradication. That is the challenge we would meet. Eradication means re-education, scientifically planned on the basis of understanding scientifically arrived at. [...] Since the completion of these studies the Department of Scientific Research of the American Jewish Committee has moved ahead into areas of research in which the unit of study is the group, the institution, the community rather than the individual."

This being said, I find it perfectly reasonable to ask: to what degree has their contribution to this project of rooting out fascist tendencies been adopted by influential organizations?

Nazis have always conflated civil rights with Communism in hopes of promoting authoritarianism against minority groups on economic grounds. I.E. “If you oppose racism or sexism or homophobia then you want to launch a popular uprising against the government by the poor and their intellectual masters to install an authoritarian government that will centrally plan the economy into poverty.”.

The fact that the dominant socioeconomic framework of Western Civilization since WWII has been Neoliberalism (mixed economy + liberalism) doesn’t occur to them

>>17813112
Well no shit, the Weimar Republic was literally the result of the Conservatives winning the November Revolution against the pro-Soviets. The idea that the Weimar Republic was some communist shithole was literally an invention of Nazi Propagandists. the Weimar government was opposed to Communism.

>>17813141
Civil rights was in no way what america is about. Blanket amnesty for tens of millions of illegals and chain migration is not what the US is about. If that's what you think the US is about then the US means nothing and your pissing and moaning about what other people think is laughable because you live in a joke of a country. A padded cell for retards

>>17813154
Cope retard, America is the first post-ethno nation, even when it was founded in 1776, about 20% of the population was of African origin (that's higher than even today by the way)

>>17813158
Blacks weren't citizens they were slaves. The 14th amendment, passed illegally, was explicitly created to give blacks legal status in the country because otherwise the south could deport all the blacks that they wanted, or otherwise imprison them indefinitely.

>>17813161
>The 14th amendment, passed illegally
yeah but if it passed then it's not really illegal now is it chud?

>>17813163
it didn't pass, they just said it did, faggot

>>17813141
>Neoliberalism (mixed economy + liberalism)
because of communism lol, it's less an actual ideology and more giving the cannonfodder every idpol right, privilege and comfort possible to stop them having a meltdown slaughtering everyone and turning a wealthy egalitarian liberal state to hell on earth where all the minorities have been killed and the majority are rightless drones slaughtered in their billions for the whims of what some german schizo wrote centuries ago, that's communism, and these freaks think they're any different than the other german 'national' socialism, sure the evil ideology causing the deaths of every minority and millions of the majority under a red flag is totally different somehow.

>>17813154
>Civil rights was in no way what america is about

To you, an authoritarian.

For the rest of us? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.

America outperforms the other nations on many fronts because our institutions are inclusive and rather than exclusive.

>>17810834 (OP)
They were Commies. Like all Commies they were interested primarily in shitting on everyone else to make themselves wealthy and powerful, and just for their own emotional fulfilment. After seeing the failure of the Soviet attempt to use orthodox Marxist tactics to shit on everybody else they decided to use cultural and legal means within capitalism to shit on people.

In this framework, when we consider how much pain and death they're responsible for, they're still less effective Communists than the Soviets or PRC, but they're working at it, and given enough time might well break into the same league as the big boys.

>>17813158
>America is the first post-ethno nation
Absolutely not, multiethnic state entities have been a thing since antiquity. Even Alexander the Great explicitly wanted to "unite the peoples" of the world under a common Sovereign, i.e create a multiethnic entity

>>17813161
>the south could deport all the blacks that they wanted,
Lmao excuse me? The South, deporting their own beloved free labour which they proliferated and fought tooth and nail to keep?
The South would've put slave plantations all the way into California and Kansas if they had been allowed

>>17811032
>ackshually Communism isn’t Jewish- its Christian!
Some Jew

Impressive

>>17810834 (OP)
According to most diehard Marxists they were the equivalent of socialist boomers (Things were better in the good old days)

>>17813145
The Nazis never called the Weimar Republic communist you fucking retard.

>>17810923
Secular Jews still Jews that advocate for Jewish (their own) interests
That's why they exist rather than dissapear.

Undermining their host society and disguising themselves and their double allegiance is part of their behaviour
Jews were and will always be foreign fifth collumns

>>17813158
>America is the first post-ethno nation
That would be the Iroquois, actually. They literally integrated the captives they did not torture to death directly into their family structures.
The colonists were anti-American and race exclusionary, to the point where Benjamin Franklin was pretty clear about the fact that he considered the French who fought on their side subhumans.

>>17813479
It's both

>>17810838
When the fippy is the bippy.