>1 = 3
>the fact that it can't be explained makes it true

God is a 10th dimensional being and thus can be anywhere in time and space at all times in any form

>>17811276
Only 10th? He should at least be 30th! KWAB!

1x1x1 equals 1

>>17811376
>they are not the same as each other
>they exist at the same time
>they are all 100% God
>there is exactly one god
>I will not attempt to clarify any of this beyond plugging my ears and repeating three person one essence
bravo

>ME ME
>WHY HAVE I FORSAKEN MYSELF

>>17811253 (OP)
(Infinity+1) + (infinity^infinity) + (infinity*infinity) = infinity.

>>17811408
Father ∈ God
Son ∈ God
Holy Spirit ∈ God
|God| = 1
Father ≠ Son
Father ≠ Holy Spirit
Son ≠ Holy Spirit

>>17811413
The father and the son are equal in divinity, which is their eternal quality. So the father does = son and = holy spirit in your equation. Where they do not equal is in their "personhood", which is the nuanced equation that has no effect on the devine nature of their eternal end. The equations that add up to infinity only have meaning and purpose as the process of solving the equation is happening. Once solved, (completed) they are all equal in their complete/perfect state.

>>17811451
presumably correct rendering of trinitarian ideas, but schizolalia nonetheless.

>>17811253 (OP)
1 essence
3 persons

Simple.

>>17811408
That’s partialism patrick

>>17811451
>The father and the son are equal in divinity, which is their eternal quality.
This is already included in the first two lines.
>Where they do not equal is in their "personhood", which is the nuanced equation that has no effect on the devine nature of their eternal end
Are you saying they have different wills? Personalities?
>The equations that add up to infinity only have meaning and purpose as the process of solving the equation is happening. Once solved, (completed) they are all equal in their complete/perfect state.
I don't understand.

>>17811678
Define both

>>17811746
>essence
the properties or attributes by means of which something can be placed in its proper class or identified as being what it is
>person
a being with agency

>>17811757
Then you have three gods not one, three beings of the same class

>>17811788
They don't possess three different essences, they all partake in the same divine essence.

>>17811253 (OP)
In order to save the people of God, of Spirit, from destruction... The Son was born so that in his name, as his body, the people of God have license to do all with God's authority to ensure their everlasting dominion over the Father's creation. Including but not limited to, a mandate to establish and maintain Heaven upon the earth, their kingdom.

>>17811825
except no one, including you, knows what the fuck this "essence" really is. it's just empty words, useful to identify the loyal sheep who are willing to parrot them.

>>17811825
Is anything else in reality like that?

Essence talk is so silly
things are what they are

never understood how this thing PLUS the essence of the thing is supposed to work
besides, it's not like you can have 3 chairs that partakes in the same essence, so they are the same chair - You'd only accept this for God

>>17811856
>except no one, including you, knows what the fuck this "essence" really is.
The essence of God is unknowable, that is to say, no one outside of the Godhead can partake in it, nobody can become "one with God", so to speak. But obviously we know that God has an essence, everything does.

>"essence" really is.
The collection of necessary properties that make something what it is. It's not some New Age woo woo nonsense, it's one of the most basic concepts in philosophy.

>Is anything else in reality like that?
Humanity, it's composed of millions of different individual people, but we all share the same human essence, that's why we sometimes refer to all of humankind as "Man", in the abstract.

>>17811887
>>17811857
Forgot to add you, also I didn't finish my last point:
Humanity, it's composed of millions of different individual people, but we all share the same human essence, that's why we sometimes refer to all of humankind as "Man", in the abstract, we do the same with "God", we're referring to the three persons partaking in the divine essence of Godhood.

>>17811888
>we do the same with "God", we're referring to the three persons partaking in the divine essence of Godhood.
So there are trhree different individuals; that's politheism

>>17811888
Humanity is a classification for something not a being

>>17811894
>So there are trhree different individuals
With one essence, thus being one entity, same with humans, we're all different people, but we're all Man.
>>17811900
>Humanity is a classification for something not a being
Metaphysically it is, in the Bible the entirety of humanity is corporately referred to as "Adam", and this happens all throughout the Bible, Israel is refered as one being, even though it's composed of millions of people, because it's calling back to Jacob, later known as Israel, they all represent him throughout the ages.

>>17811913
>With one essence, thus being one entity,
No

>Metaphysically it is
It isn't in actual reality though; humans are separate beings that fall under a classification, just like zeus, baal and jupiter all gods; you will never convince anyone with your line of reasoning

>>17811922
>No
Yes.
>It isn't in actual reality though
Metaphysics is reality though.

It’s catholic fanfiction. I’m surprised modern Protestants still cling onto it.

>>17811857
um, god is unique
it just works

>It's not even mentioned once in the Bible

What the fuck is wrong with Christfags, do they just make shit up on the spot

>>17811945
You will never conice someone that three eoople are actually one being; you are just confused about what cathegories are

>>17811887
>God has an essence because everything has an essence
OK, everything has a beginning so God has a beginning and isn't eternal

The Godhead is ultimately unmanifest.

The Trinity is just the Christian revelation of the Godhead manifested as 3 persons in a total Unity. We all technically participate in the Godheads essence, but in a lesser incomplete way. The Trinity is the only thing that is fully filled with that essence.

But really, since it's supposed to be a "mystery" don't bother worrying about it unless you actually have any interest in contemplating it.

ITT: Medieval Heresy

I'll dumb it down for ya.
In the Bible, satan is an angel created by God, he thinks he is better than the humans, and the humans are sinful, and they prove satan is better than them. So God sends down a perfect human, the human is God in human form, to prove that humans are worthy of life. And thus all humanity is redeemed through Him and satan loses. So satan creates false prophets to turn people away from Jesus.

>>17812050
>You will never conice someone that three eoople are actually one being;
I already have with some people in my life.
>>17812056
>OK, everything has a beginning so God has a beginning and isn't eternal
Jumping from the Trinity to the argument for causality? The fuck?

>God can do literally anything
>He can make talking animals and build the sky with his bare hands
>He can literally create humans from nothing but dirt and magic breath
>But he can't become a human himself, because, he just can't, because it doesn't "make sense"
Lol.

>>17812118
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Satan is an Angel

t. Someone who read the Bible several times

>>17812151
Maybe he can but just chooses not to? For example I can chop off my cock, doesn't mean I'm going to.

>>17812138
So you manage to gaslight some poor sod into believing your fanfic, so what. Like I said previously in this thread, the trinity isn't even in the Bible so it is entirely a non-canon invention of Christfaggotry.

>Actually read thee biible
>Original sin and the trinity are head canon were supposed to go along witth
bros... Jew and Muslims are laughing at us

>>17812430
jews have been trying for decades, if not centuries, to turn christianity into jew worshiping noahidism. the trinity is one of those roadblocks preventing it, even though most people don't understand it anymore

>>17812138
if your reason for saying God has an essence is that everything has an essence so God has to have one, then I say God was not eternal because nothing else is eternal either. refute that

>>17812473
I guess the principle roadblock is Jesus. Jewstianity specifically prohibits the worship of any man, their god is strictly non-physical and would never take on human form.

>>17811253 (OP)

>>17812482
An essence is simply the set of necessary properties that a thing has to have in order for it to be what it is.
Example:
Lithium atoms have three electrons, this is a necessary property which is part of its essence because without it, it would not be Lithium, if you were to add an electron it would be Beryllium, if you were to subtract an electron it would be Helium, thus having three electrons is part of its essence.

Other essences not having the property of eternity doesn't mean that God can't have that as part of its essence.

>>17812521
This. God contains all possible properties while also being beyond all properties.

All things in creation contain particular properties found (created) in God, but to a lesser and lesser degree.

Pluralism is superior to both monism and dualism, and I'm not even kidding.

>>17811348
Based and Buddha pilled.

>>17811870
Monist niggerbabble.

>"We say that gold, even though it be cut into many figures, is one, and is so spoken of, but we speak of many coins or many staters, without finding any multiplication of the nature of gold by the number of staters; and for this reason we speak of gold, when it is contemplated in greater bulk, either in plate or in coin, as much, but we do not speak of it as many golds on account of the multitude of the material — except when one says there are many gold pieces (Darics, for instance, or staters), in which case it is not the material, but the pieces of money to which the significance of number applies: indeed, properly, we should not call them gold but golden.

As, then, the golden staters are many, but the gold is one, so too those who are exhibited to us severally in the nature of man, as Peter, James, and John, are many, yet the man in them is one. [...] This is the cause why it says, the Lord our God is one Lord Deuteronomy 6:4, and also proclaims the Only-begotten God by the name of Godhead, without dividing the Unity into a dual signification, so as to call the Father and the Son two Gods, although each is proclaimed by the holy writers as God. The Father is God: the Son is God: and yet by the same proclamation God is One, because no difference either of nature or of operation is contemplated in the Godhead. For if (according to the idea of those who have been led astray) the nature of the Holy Trinity were diverse, the number would by consequence be extended to a plurality of Gods, being divided according to the diversity of essence in the subjects. But since the Divine, single, and unchanging nature, that it may be one, rejects all diversity in essence, it does not admit in its own case the signification of multitude; but as it is called one nature, so it is called in the singular by all its other names."
- St. Gregory of Nyssa, "On Not Three Gods" to Ablabius
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2905.htm